Miko was the new Eric... Courtney herself has said she needs other people to get stuff done but she's always the words/melodies etc she just likes someone else to help produce/paste it all together. It's 2019 and in still hoping for another album... Courtney's grown from POTI THROUGH NBD AND ALL IN-BETWEEN...For me I've got a different album/era for every mood I'm in 💔💔💔💔
I like this slower version alot better than the "people like you fuck people like me" one thats been live lately. I sorta liked where the album was during the linda perry sessions but who knows whats gonna come out. Five years in the making means there will be more than enough B sides to enjoy. and this is def a demo version its not finished off
@ConcreteHole I would understand if they somehow managed to find a high quality version, but this is the SAME THING! There are also clips where Courtney is singing "Honey" live in this guitar store....it sounds like it's going to be pretty powerful!
@ConcreteHole You never know! She may have recorded one and it may come out in shape or form (of Motherfucker), I wish they would've kept that studio track ( I still don't buy that those were demos!) a little rockier, but I still love that song. AND DID YOU HEAR THAT CLIP OF PCH?! OMFG! You can hear a bit of the almost finished version and it sounds so good! It's definitely been toughened up!
@ConcreteHole I have to say....I don't think Stand Up Motherfucker will be on the new album. I think she said "that's more of a Nobody's Stepdaughter's song" and "Sunset Marquis" is going to be a B-side.
@MiriamsHunger With the exception of Skinny Little Bitch, almost all of the songs on Nobody's Daughter are so overproduced their raw, studio versions are much much better.
I love this version too it tells the full story of samantha and this more tragic and dark then the orig version is kinda funny and trashy fun song in the bridge
@thedollmouth-Well it's just my interpretation, but the "War" is years of addiction. But it's over now, cuz she's burned out...it took her pretty things..."I wanted you out of my whole life", and she fucks people over IN ORDER TO AVOID AGONY & SUFFERING.."Cuz I love you so much I hate & I hate what you have seen in me". And she says if there is (yet another) round she won't win this time. Honestly, I would think this was a Heroin song regardless off who did it. Not just because it's Courtney
@scarlet000begonia 1. This was written BEFORE the two of them stopped talking. Corgan has since demanded that she doesn't release this song and others. Google it if you don't believe me. 2. Corgan hasn't written a decent song in years? What?! Billy will never lose the ability to write a good song. Just because it doesn't sound like Siamese Dream doesn't mean its not any good.
I don't think there is a perfect version of "Samantha" but I like the soft rock Fleetwood Mac feel of this take. I could do without the bridge "And no one can regain..." It was weak and I'm glad Courtney replaced it. "People like you fuck people like me" was awesome as far as I was concerned. The major problem I had with the final version is that it was too cluttered, with the "villages of ether" stuff and also not cutting "leave the money by the bed... hate what you have seen in me" segment. That's a terrific segment but it was a moment someone needed to tell Courtney to "kill your darlings" and edit edit edit for the good of the song.
I agree with you! I really like both versions of the song but neither of them really feel finished and the reason you mentioned because there are so many different verses and changes and stuff. I'd love a version where it all flows together and fits together better
Strongly disagree. I think the bridge is one of the strongest parts, and I’m upset she took it away. The lyricism in it was gold. “But I know you in great pain”
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@thetheRedundant No it wasn't. They don't even talk anymore. Plus, Billy Corgan hasn't written a decent song in years. Did you not hear SP's last album? *Ugh* Horrible!
...and I hate what you have seen in me! ....I just Love this version of Samantha, It feels stronger than the one that they released!
This version is VERY Fleetwood Mac. I almost like it more than the album version.
The soul has been compressed out of the album version :(
Miko was the new Eric... Courtney herself has said she needs other people to get stuff done but she's always the words/melodies etc she just likes someone else to help produce/paste it all together. It's 2019 and in still hoping for another album... Courtney's grown from POTI THROUGH NBD AND ALL IN-BETWEEN...For me I've got a different album/era for every mood I'm in 💔💔💔💔
Omg same
That last verse is 🔥
Melissa's OOOM will be awesomeeee! she's doing the right thing, she can't be singing 'lalalalas' all her life
i love the demos!
I like this slower version alot better than the "people like you fuck people like me" one thats been live lately. I sorta liked where the album was during the linda perry sessions but who knows whats gonna come out. Five years in the making means there will be more than enough B sides to enjoy. and this is def a demo version its not finished off
much better than the album version
I love both versions
special place in my ❤ for this 1❤❤❤😊
She's playing Samantha on Johnathon Ross..I cannot wait to hear the new version!
Beautiful
Been listening on loop. So powerful.
love this version.
Courtney is my all time fav. Hope she comes to Australia soon!! WE LOVE YOU COURTNEY!!
@ConcreteHole
I would understand if they somehow managed to find a high quality version, but this is the SAME THING!
There are also clips where Courtney is singing "Honey" live in this guitar store....it sounds like it's going to be pretty powerful!
I dig the demo version too.
Much better than album version...
This is REAL rock...
Wow
Hell Yeah!
@ConcreteHole You never know! She may have recorded one and it may come out in shape or form (of Motherfucker), I wish they would've kept that studio track ( I still don't buy that those were demos!) a little rockier, but I still love that song.
AND DID YOU HEAR THAT CLIP OF PCH?! OMFG! You can hear a bit of the almost finished version and it sounds so good! It's definitely been toughened up!
@ConcreteHole I know!
The one star I gave is for this for the user....:-)
@ConcreteHole I have to say....I don't think Stand Up Motherfucker will be on the new album. I think she said "that's more of a Nobody's Stepdaughter's song" and "Sunset Marquis" is going to be a B-side.
@MiriamsHunger With the exception of Skinny Little Bitch, almost all of the songs on Nobody's Daughter are so overproduced their raw, studio versions are much much better.
I agree...who knows...maybe they re-recorded and she'll release it somehow?
@TheirObsession You're right this is awesome, I like Kings of Leon but maybe I forgot how good new music could be
I love this version too it tells the full story of samantha and this more tragic and dark then the orig version is kinda funny and trashy fun song in the bridge
@VioletCherrySaphire How about Patty?
This was co written by Billy Corgan by the way
@TheCajun124
how so?
@thedollmouth-Well it's just my interpretation, but the "War" is years of addiction. But it's over now, cuz she's burned out...it took her pretty things..."I wanted you out of my whole life", and she fucks people over IN ORDER TO AVOID AGONY & SUFFERING.."Cuz I love you so much I hate & I hate what you have seen in me". And she says if there is (yet another) round she won't win this time. Honestly, I would think this was a Heroin song regardless off who did it. Not just because it's Courtney
@scarlet000begonia 1. This was written BEFORE the two of them stopped talking. Corgan has since demanded that she doesn't release this song and others. Google it if you don't believe me. 2. Corgan hasn't written a decent song in years? What?! Billy will never lose the ability to write a good song. Just because it doesn't sound like Siamese Dream doesn't mean its not any good.
I don't think there is a perfect version of "Samantha" but I like the soft rock Fleetwood Mac feel of this take. I could do without the bridge "And no one can regain..." It was weak and I'm glad Courtney replaced it. "People like you fuck people like me" was awesome as far as I was concerned. The major problem I had with the final version is that it was too cluttered, with the "villages of ether" stuff and also not cutting "leave the money by the bed... hate what you have seen in me" segment. That's a terrific segment but it was a moment someone needed to tell Courtney to "kill your darlings" and edit edit edit for the good of the song.
I agree with you! I really like both versions of the song but neither of them really feel finished and the reason you mentioned because there are so many different verses and changes and stuff. I'd love a version where it all flows together and fits together better
i personally love the bridge. it just feels so hole - esque w the lyrics- themes of girlhood/growing up ect.
Strongly disagree. I think the bridge is one of the strongest parts, and I’m upset she took it away. The lyricism in it was gold. “But I know you in great pain”
Would Somebody please.do something already? All debts are paid. I am NOT a backstabber. I have marks all over my damn ugly face. Yer.beautiful Inna Marin County way.
Thanks billy, for another awesome song!
I like this version b/c it's missing that awful, "People like you fuck people like me" buiness towards the end.
sooo about Heroin.........
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@thetheRedundant No it wasn't. They don't even talk anymore. Plus, Billy Corgan hasn't written a decent song in years. Did you not hear SP's last album? *Ugh* Horrible!