@@sisqobmx dude who cares, this is a mac its good for some easy gaming for 50w usage while gaming is insane with that performance... if you want to run 4k games maxed out, get a gaming windows PC....
@@happer2009 well there is that I do t think the vast majority of people would use that option but enthusiast gamers would possibly be interested and productivity that needs GPU so rendering for instance
Blame Apple for it. Their API and policies change all the time. There’s no guarantee the application you compiled will work on the next macOS version. Apple also started to limit side loading (removal of “open anyways” for programs developed by unidentified devs). Devs might have doubts macOS will turn into an closed iOS-like environment
@@ngroy8636 that hasn’t been my experience tbh. I don’t think it’s the blocker either - that’s the usual return on investment and the platform has not been capable, not had a large enough user base and porting engines is expensive but if the engine already exists, ie Unity, Unreal, Godot, then the cost to port is much lower which leaves user base and capability. Capability is there aplenty now so while the user base is lose if the pain to port can be changing the target platform and tweaking then it’s entirely doable
thx fr testing these man. your channel is the place for mac gaming real world performance tests. great selection of games as well. when i get my mini, Ill prolly get the re remakes, ff7 r, cp2077. base mini very impressive for the price point!
wow, much better than I expected for base model. i went for an m4 max MacBook Pro to get better game performance expecting this to be more like 30 fps or less at the settings used in the video!
Well, getting a Max version (€€€) because of gaming (Mac? Gaming?…) it’s a little funny. I would rather buy a base edition and the extra put on gaming PC or PS5 Pro
@@ricarmig Exactly what I did. I tried Crossover for a while, and although there are some games that run very well, it’s very limiting compared to gaming on Windows. A month ago, I bought myself a Windows gaming PC with an RTX 4070, and I couldn’t be happier. The MacBook is still my favorite laptop of all time for its efficiency, power, and build quality. But for gaming, you’re better off with a dedicated gaming PC.
@@ricarmigtypical stupid comment you find under mac product. Have you ever thought he could be using it for other reasons too than exclusively gaming ?
@@ricarmigbut you can’t carry your PS5/pro with you now can you? 😂😂 You kinda miss the point of buying a laptop The whole point of getting a mbp is to be able to play games and productivity in one box
@ well looking at that then the point still the same,you can buy the base model and then a gaming laptop with full game compatibility, and even faster speeds
@@Andytizer Can you make a buyer's guide ? As in, who should upgrade? And what you should upgrade to? Examples: - if you're on M2 Pro (Mac Mini) then don't upgrade to M4, and maybe don't even upgrade to M4 Pro since the return on value isn't that great. - if you're on Base M1 (Mac Mini) then upgrade to the Base M4 (Mac Mini) - If you have an M1 Ultra or M2 Ultra, consider selling now while you can, and upgrade to the M4 Ultra in 12 months time. In the meantime, use your current/backup Mac instead. If you don't have a backup, maybe go for a M4 Base Mac Mini, or MBP14 with M4 Pro upgrade. Or better yet, look at the refurbished and used market for any cheap deals. - if you have a MacBook 12-14 inch, and it is specced between (M1/Pro/Max, M2/Pro/Max, M3/Pro) then consider upgrading to M4 Pro or higher. - If you have a MacBook 15-16 inch, consider the M4 Pro as a minimum, if you're coming from the same as above. - If your MacBook has M3 Max chipset, consider staying for 14 inch, but consider upgrading to M4 Max for the 16inch model only. For the 14inch model, the upgrade value proposition doesn't make sense. And moving from the M3 Max to the M4 Pro is more like a side-grade.
@@Andytizer Thanks for responding! Hoi4 would be great to see, but if you can I would love to see one of the newer titles too! Especially since Vic 3 is supposed to run on Apple silicon native
Not really. It's definitely the cost of my GPU (rtx 4070) but you can more than get away with running these on a fully 500$ build. The value of the mac is in its size, power efficiency, and single core cpu performance.
A Radeon RX 6600XT, which costs ~$200, puts up 132 FPS in 1080p and 55 FPS in 4k on Death Stranding, which is around 60% faster. It's nice that this very small, very low power, very cheap & convenient computer can do decent 1080p gaming, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
not really... a 4060 (if you want rtx) or equivalent Radeon + R5 5800 costs way less and will be much better at games. It's indeed impressive that this is possible at this low power, and being a mac, with emulation etc. But if gaming is your focus your money is better spent elsewhere.
Is there any chance that you can try Call of Duty BO6? You already tried Overwatch and Diablo which both have anticheat, maybe Call of duty Black Ops 6 can work?
I saw some other testing videos , it reaches around 35-40°C , but that's nothing to worry really since the reason the outer body is hot is because it also helps dissipate heat , also no worries , the mac operational temperature of M4 is 100°C
I thank you for the information work you do on the base Mac Mini M4. If a game runs well on this entry level machine, it can certainly only improve with the other chips in the M4 family (Pro and Max). I would ask you to publish as many games as possible with this device, in order to make the various gamers understand all the potential currently offered by this device.
Very, very impressive! As a Vision Pro owner, I’m incredibly tempted to pick one of these new Minis up to play around with exclusively for use with the VP ultra-wide screen virtual display. As I tend to favor older titles and emulation, and I have had a blast streaming from Steam Deck to VP without terrible latency, I’m beginning to convince myself of the viability of this use case. Keep up the great work!
I hope that rumor that Apple is making a new gaming centric app that will make it easier for gamers to find games better and send messages is true. I also want this new hypothetical app will have a voice chat for game parties as well. The more Apple does to show the company is dedicated to improving the gaming experience for their users the better.
How did thermal throttling behave? Was reading a bit of criticism on reddit that after 10-15 min performance goes down quite a notch because of the heat. Did you get any of that during your tests?
Nah man it doesn't happen , the max SoC temp is around 70-80°C , yeah , it sometimes , rarely thermal throttles but no noticeable change in performance is observed
Thanks for the great video as usual. I am now running Minecraft with shaders using Prism Launcher on my new Mac Mini Pro with the 20GPU option and it handles it nicely. It would be fantastic if you could run one of your Minecraft setup and performance videos updated to run on the new MacMini! In fact it would be awesome BTW Great work with the Childrens hopsital! I got on board and I see many others have done the same ..... congrats
Thanks for the video…. I just got my Mac mini pro a few days ago… ran some cinebench and it was awesome. I’m trying to figure out how to play some Path of Exile 2 on it… any advice would be greatly appreciated 🙏
I was looking for reviews of the performance of the M4 GPUs in order to compare to a 700€ (equivalent in price in europe) PC and this was the first useful result. Thanks for making the tests... it's indeed pretty good for the price, but this gaming performance is not at all comparable to an equivalent pc in price. Thanks for your time man.
Can you please compare base M4 with M4 Pro mini? I'm looking to get one, i think the base M4 value is GREAT but i'd still rather get like at least 60fps. I know you already fid a video on the M4 Pro but they aren't all the same games so I can't directly compare them
I got the base M4 Mac mini on Friday. It’s been great so far! Does anyone have any recommendations for a monitor to go with it? Should I upgrade my 1080p 75hz to a 1440p or 4k monitor?
Can you apply something similar to nvidias v-sync (half refresh rate) to lock in 30fps at 60Hz? I think that would be a good option while running games at higher resolutions and graphical settings. Also, can you make things like like the app lossless scaling to work and generate fake frames?
i bought the 24gb version and am really happy with it. super fast and apps open really fast. except for playing league of legends aram and only get around 50-70 frames with lowest specs. don't know if this is normal?
Thanks again for amazing content. If I get the Mac Mini base with 256GB hard drive, can I use an external drive connected over Thunderbolt4 to store Crossover or Native games on it so I can minimize internal hard drive usage
Compared with my M2 MacBook Pro with 24GB RAM, the M4 Mac Mini looks impressive. I plan to replace my MacBook Pro with a M4 Pro Mac Mini with 14 CPU and 20 GPU cores plus 48GB RAM as in addition to running games, I also want run VMs with higher core counts and RAM allocations than permitted on the base level chips.
Great video. Would love to see a comparison of the same games on the pro model. I’m wondering if it would be worth the upgrade. Can you get consistent 60+ fps and 2k resolutions.
Hi @andrew , I am using crossover to play steam cs1.6 ...i know its very old ..but it is the only game i play .. i am getting into a issue where i am not able to minimize and restore the cs1.6 full screen while playing .. so basically i have to quit the game to do any other thing .. I press "ALT +TAB" which does brings the game into a windowed mode but wont move to full screen from then .. how to resolve this ..
For some reason I don’t really begrudge him his billions he seems like a good guy and very smart. I think he puts his customers above his employees though
Just a heads up for those looking to get this for gaming - 256gb is far too less for games. A game like cyberpunk is around 90gb, wukong around, 130gb extra. So you can only have 1 of such game installed at a point, or invest $100 more in an external ssd. - You can get similar or better performance from a $350 PC with a 1660 super. If you want to buy it purely for gaming, don't. - Upgradeability is a big part a gaming rig. This is not really upgradeable. So it will end uo costing a lot more in the long run.
@C111TYGWORL do you live in a mcdonalds toilet that a pc is too large and annoying for you? Maybe try spending less on overpriced apple products and actually get a nice work room. And oh, there is this thing called a laptop that people use for portability. I dont think that carrying a mac mini, monitor, mouse, keyboard and external caddy with you everywhere you go is considered protable.
@@Uomodargilla Only in games, but if want a powerful cpu for productivity tasks aswell. the base m4 is as fast as a intel i9 12900k. and the unbinned m4 pro is faster than 14900k.
@@Poo0fi Honestly if that actually happens, and its just as easy to install games and run em as the steamdeck. I might get this purely for pc gaming, and a powerful media center for my TV, the PS5 is great but it really lacks in the media department and games are way too expensive.
This kind of performance on a base model is actually insane and very exciting, thanks for the great video!
Not even close lol. Performs 30-40% worse than a RX 6600 + 12100 setup.
Try again apple.
@@sisqobmxcope harder 😂
@@sisqobmx dude who cares, this is a mac its good for some easy gaming for 50w usage while gaming is insane with that performance... if you want to run 4k games maxed out, get a gaming windows PC....
@@sisqobmx are we referring to gaming or all processing?
@@JustFun-du8iv The only one coping is you 🤪 Look up a bencmark and see your $600 dollar mac peform worse than a 12100 + 6600
It’s such a shame there’s not more games released for Mac at this point as this would probably the best gaming mini ‘PC’ at the price point
This would be the best gaming option if it could be connected to an external 4080 card.
@@happer2009 well there is that I do t think the vast majority of people would use that option but enthusiast gamers would possibly be interested and productivity that needs GPU so rendering for instance
@@happer2009 ,$1,100. No thanks.
Blame Apple for it. Their API and policies change all the time. There’s no guarantee the application you compiled will work on the next macOS version. Apple also started to limit side loading (removal of “open anyways” for programs developed by unidentified devs). Devs might have doubts macOS will turn into an closed iOS-like environment
@@ngroy8636 that hasn’t been my experience tbh. I don’t think it’s the blocker either - that’s the usual return on investment and the platform has not been capable, not had a large enough user base and porting engines is expensive but if the engine already exists, ie Unity, Unreal, Godot, then the cost to port is much lower which leaves user base and capability. Capability is there aplenty now so while the user base is lose if the pain to port can be changing the target platform and tweaking then it’s entirely doable
Was waiting for this review. Thank you!
thx fr testing these man. your channel is the place for mac gaming real world performance tests.
great selection of games as well. when i get my mini, Ill prolly get the re remakes, ff7 r, cp2077.
base mini very impressive for the price point!
You're amazing Tsai I loved every-one of your video Mac for gaming lets go .
Great work my friend! Got mine yesterday, going to get it all set up tomorrow! Keep up the amazing content! :)
Congrats on your buy man! do a review yourself as well and upload it!
@@AndroidGamingAppsno
I’m get mine soon my pc be tripping
hey good to know someone is continuing the ryujinx project. hell yea
Would love to see more games tested on the base version. Thank you for this video
wow, much better than I expected for base model. i went for an m4 max MacBook Pro to get better game performance expecting this to be more like 30 fps or less at the settings used in the video!
Well, getting a Max version (€€€) because of gaming (Mac? Gaming?…) it’s a little funny. I would rather buy a base edition and the extra put on gaming PC or PS5 Pro
@@ricarmig Exactly what I did. I tried Crossover for a while, and although there are some games that run very well, it’s very limiting compared to gaming on Windows. A month ago, I bought myself a Windows gaming PC with an RTX 4070, and I couldn’t be happier. The MacBook is still my favorite laptop of all time for its efficiency, power, and build quality. But for gaming, you’re better off with a dedicated gaming PC.
@@ricarmigtypical stupid comment you find under mac product. Have you ever thought he could be using it for other reasons too than exclusively gaming ?
@@ricarmigbut you can’t carry your PS5/pro with you now can you? 😂😂
You kinda miss the point of buying a laptop
The whole point of getting a mbp is to be able to play games and productivity in one box
@ well looking at that then the point still the same,you can buy the base model and then a gaming laptop with full game compatibility, and even faster speeds
do you even sleep? saw you playing and testing mac mini until late night and made new video and upload it now? wow
My OBS recorded died and I lost my footage, I had to redo it all again :D but yes I slept and finished the video this morning.
@@Andytizer thats why you should always record in mkv even tho obs rarely dies on mac its still better to use mkv than mp4
@@Andytizerthere is hybrid mp4 option in obs which overcomes corruption problem.
@@Andytizer Can you make a buyer's guide ?
As in, who should upgrade?
And what you should upgrade to?
Examples:
- if you're on M2 Pro (Mac Mini) then don't upgrade to M4, and maybe don't even upgrade to M4 Pro since the return on value isn't that great.
- if you're on Base M1 (Mac Mini) then upgrade to the Base M4 (Mac Mini)
- If you have an M1 Ultra or M2 Ultra, consider selling now while you can, and upgrade to the M4 Ultra in 12 months time. In the meantime, use your current/backup Mac instead. If you don't have a backup, maybe go for a M4 Base Mac Mini, or MBP14 with M4 Pro upgrade. Or better yet, look at the refurbished and used market for any cheap deals.
- if you have a MacBook 12-14 inch, and it is specced between (M1/Pro/Max, M2/Pro/Max, M3/Pro) then consider upgrading to M4 Pro or higher.
- If you have a MacBook 15-16 inch, consider the M4 Pro as a minimum, if you're coming from the same as above.
- If your MacBook has M3 Max chipset, consider staying for 14 inch, but consider upgrading to M4 Max for the 16inch model only. For the 14inch model, the upgrade value proposition doesn't make sense. And moving from the M3 Max to the M4 Pro is more like a side-grade.
@@ekintekoyou made your own guide my guy why not make your own video before anyone else can, I want to see the difference
I didn't realise that performance on the base model M4 would be that good for gaming! Insane!
Hey Andrew! Is it possible you could test some CPU intensive Paradox titles such as Crusader Kings 3 or Victoria 3 in future videos?
Thanks for the Super! Yes definitely will is HOI4 okay?
@@Andytizer Thanks for responding! Hoi4 would be great to see, but if you can I would love to see one of the newer titles too! Especially since Vic 3 is supposed to run on Apple silicon native
Love you Tsai!
The mac mini is the same price of a gpu you would need to run these games and runs at much lower power. Definitely getting this!
Not really. It's definitely the cost of my GPU (rtx 4070) but you can more than get away with running these on a fully 500$ build. The value of the mac is in its size, power efficiency, and single core cpu performance.
A Radeon RX 6600XT, which costs ~$200, puts up 132 FPS in 1080p and 55 FPS in 4k on Death Stranding, which is around 60% faster. It's nice that this very small, very low power, very cheap & convenient computer can do decent 1080p gaming, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Not really, i built my complete pc in 250$ and it has the same exact gaming performance as this mac mini . I'm using a 1650 super!
not really... a 4060 (if you want rtx) or equivalent Radeon + R5 5800 costs way less and will be much better at games. It's indeed impressive that this is possible at this low power, and being a mac, with emulation etc. But if gaming is your focus your money is better spent elsewhere.
The power I agree on but “same price as a gpu you would need to run this” is a stretch
Is there any chance that you can try Call of Duty BO6? You already tried Overwatch and Diablo which both have anticheat, maybe Call of duty Black Ops 6 can work?
Fantastic showcase as always. Can wait for your ps3/ps4 emulation test too.Ignore the haters :)
what about the temperature? would be interesting?
I saw some other testing videos , it reaches around 35-40°C , but that's nothing to worry really since the reason the outer body is hot is because it also helps dissipate heat , also no worries , the mac operational temperature of M4 is 100°C
Finally someone does gaming benchmarks.
Been looking for this video. Thanks 🙏
Can't wait to see what we'll get with M4 Ultra 🤩
Thanks for all your work Andrew. Really looking forward to the M4 Pro (14/20) gaming tests if that’s the config you’re going for!
I thank you for the information work you do on the base Mac Mini M4. If a game runs well on this entry level machine, it can certainly only improve with the other chips in the M4 family (Pro and Max). I would ask you to publish as many games as possible with this device, in order to make the various gamers understand all the potential currently offered by this device.
Thank you for this massive tests on apple silicon M4 lineup!
would love to know how it renders things on Topaz Video AI
Very, very impressive! As a Vision Pro owner, I’m incredibly tempted to pick one of these new Minis up to play around with exclusively for use with the VP ultra-wide screen virtual display. As I tend to favor older titles and emulation, and I have had a blast streaming from Steam Deck to VP without terrible latency, I’m beginning to convince myself of the viability of this use case. Keep up the great work!
Great test man, thanks
Is this the beginning of apple gaming dominance ??
For sure (KEKW)
Is the mini capable of playing Helldivers 2? Thanks!
Pro version should to be better for FPS right ?
yes, but the price difference is quite yuge.
I hope that rumor that Apple is making a new gaming centric app that will make it easier for gamers to find games better and send messages is true. I also want this new hypothetical app will have a voice chat for game parties as well. The more Apple does to show the company is dedicated to improving the gaming experience for their users the better.
Would you be able to buy a portable hard drive and install Batocera on it and use this Mini PC as a emulation console?
Are there any tips or tweaks how to achieve best gaming performance on Mac?
What about cs go and rocket league? How is the fps performance?
It’s this pretty much how the base M4 MacBook Pro will perform as well? Same 10 cores and RAM
A little too laggy for me. How's M4 Pro 20GPU?
What games can it play as I used to game on Windows games like escape for tarkov,rust, conquerorsblade ,ect) also which platform to use?
How did thermal throttling behave? Was reading a bit of criticism on reddit that after 10-15 min performance goes down quite a notch because of the heat. Did you get any of that during your tests?
Nah man it doesn't happen , the max SoC temp is around 70-80°C , yeah , it sometimes , rarely thermal throttles but no noticeable change in performance is observed
What games can it play as I used to game on Windows games like escape for tarkov,rust, conquerorsblade ,ect)
Hello - long shot, but by any chance you can share the performance of Division 2 on this mac?
Thanks for the great video as usual.
I am now running Minecraft with shaders using Prism Launcher on my new Mac Mini Pro with the 20GPU option and it handles it nicely. It would be fantastic if you could run one of your Minecraft setup and performance videos updated to run on the new MacMini! In fact it would be awesome
BTW Great work with the Childrens hopsital! I got on board and I see many others have done the same ..... congrats
Tears of the kingdom via Ryujinx performance? Thanks!
please add the power consumption also. to showcase how power efficient ARM gaming as compared to x86
Any chance you could test out the base M4 MacBook Pro for gaming? Thanks!
Can this performance be seen on the MacBook Air M4?
Thanks for the video…. I just got my Mac mini pro a few days ago… ran some cinebench and it was awesome. I’m trying to figure out how to play some Path of Exile 2 on it… any advice would be greatly appreciated 🙏
I'm considering buying my 1st Mac in many years. I still play Starcraft 2. Will it be playable? If so in what quality?
I was looking for reviews of the performance of the M4 GPUs in order to compare to a 700€ (equivalent in price in europe) PC and this was the first useful result. Thanks for making the tests... it's indeed pretty good for the price, but this gaming performance is not at all comparable to an equivalent pc in price.
Thanks for your time man.
Hello my friend can you tell me whether CSGO 2 runs smoothly with crossover
will you be testing emulation afterwards?
For 600 dollars it’s impressive, even at 1080p. Can’t wait to see more benchmarks
What monitor are you using?
Can you please compare base M4 with M4 Pro mini? I'm looking to get one, i think the base M4 value is GREAT but i'd still rather get like at least 60fps. I know you already fid a video on the M4 Pro but they aren't all the same games so I can't directly compare them
Can you play Warzone in this mini?
great review and impressive performance
Great work 👍🏻
Thanks for your work Andrew, I’ll wait for the M4 Pro test on the Mac Mini, which is the Mac that I’m planning to buy this next year.
Good news, he released that a day or two ago!
CORRECTION that was M4 Pro, my apologies! hop in his live though rn for M4 Pro action
Is it good for designing ( Photoshop , blender ) ???
I got the base M4 Mac mini on Friday. It’s been great so far! Does anyone have any recommendations for a monitor to go with it? Should I upgrade my 1080p 75hz to a 1440p or 4k monitor?
Can you apply something similar to nvidias v-sync (half refresh rate) to lock in 30fps at 60Hz? I think that would be a good option while running games at higher resolutions and graphical settings. Also, can you make things like like the app lossless scaling to work and generate fake frames?
Yes you could use SwitchResX to make a custom 30Hz resolution.
Lossless scaling - don't think that's an option on macOS.
Any chance for PS3 emulation test? GTA IV precisely
how to play ghostwire Tokyo(epic games) on Mac with whisky/heroic launcher, plz tell
Can you include Microsoft flight simulator game play in it?
i bought the 24gb version and am really happy with it. super fast and apps open really fast. except for playing league of legends aram and only get around 50-70 frames with lowest specs. don't know if this is normal?
okay i just found the solution. i had the energy mode on. seems to slow down the graphics alot. getting now 90-110 on same settings.
Thanks again for amazing content. If I get the Mac Mini base with 256GB hard drive, can I use an external drive connected over Thunderbolt4 to store Crossover or Native games on it so I can minimize internal hard drive usage
bro r u sure these stunning games are running on a base mac mini m4 ?
Hi: does it runs street fighter v mac mini m4? Thanks
Compared with my M2 MacBook Pro with 24GB RAM, the M4 Mac Mini looks impressive. I plan to replace my MacBook Pro with a M4 Pro Mac Mini with 14 CPU and 20 GPU cores plus 48GB RAM as in addition to running games, I also want run VMs with higher core counts and RAM allocations than permitted on the base level chips.
Can it run Overwatch 2 w crossover??
When are you going 4K?
Awesome stuff! Could you please try out Valheim? They now have a native Apple Silicon version.
Who would have thought that the Mac mini, despite being the least popular Mac, would turn out to be the best deal in computing in recent memory.
I'm convinced that if games were made from the ground up for Metal and M chips, they would start running better than even high end pcs.
Great video. Would love to see a comparison of the same games on the pro model. I’m wondering if it would be worth the upgrade. Can you get consistent 60+ fps and 2k resolutions.
Mate 01:57 definitely does not look like 1080p. Looks like 720p.
So I saw a screen tear in Final Fantasy 7, thoughts?
For us new Mac Mini M4 folks, how would we play/emulate Death Stranding/RE7?
Awesome work!
Hi @andrew ,
I am using crossover to play steam cs1.6 ...i know its very old ..but it is the only game i play .. i am getting into a issue where i am not able to minimize and restore the cs1.6 full screen while playing .. so basically i have to quit the game to do any other thing ..
I press "ALT +TAB" which does brings the game into a windowed mode but wont move to full screen from then .. how to resolve this ..
For some reason I don’t really begrudge him his billions he seems like a good guy and very smart. I think he puts his customers above his employees though
Please do anther test for black myth wukong. I am thinking about to get a mac mini for this game. But i have no ideawhether it will work or not😢
What about shooter games like Warzone and shooter games in general? 😊
Thank you for the video. I still cant decide between 16 and 20 gpu in M4 Pro. There aren't enough comparisons yet regarding of game performance.
Just a heads up for those looking to get this for gaming
- 256gb is far too less for games. A game like cyberpunk is around 90gb, wukong around, 130gb extra. So you can only have 1 of such game installed at a point, or invest $100 more in an external ssd.
- You can get similar or better performance from a $350 PC with a 1660 super. If you want to buy it purely for gaming, don't.
- Upgradeability is a big part a gaming rig. This is not really upgradeable. So it will end uo costing a lot more in the long run.
All that long poem for nothing, the future is in miniature powerfull machines, not your 16000 giant annoying and not portable PC
@C111TYGWORL do you live in a mcdonalds toilet that a pc is too large and annoying for you? Maybe try spending less on overpriced apple products and actually get a nice work room. And oh, there is this thing called a laptop that people use for portability. I dont think that carrying a mac mini, monitor, mouse, keyboard and external caddy with you everywhere you go is considered protable.
For the price this is far better than any intel and AMD nuc ❤❤
Actually for the same price you can get a Beelink SER9 and it performs better with the 890M (ryzen HX 370)
@@Uomodargilla Only in games, but if want a powerful cpu for productivity tasks aswell. the base m4 is as fast as a intel i9 12900k. and the unbinned m4 pro is faster than 14900k.
What you mean most games are struggling coz there's no ports
@@plsm7514 thats cap, it loses to the 14900k.
@@Uomodargilla the mac mini is emulating windows and the game itself so when this games get optimized for macOS is game over for windows
hey andrew, can you test in wow raiding of any type?
Thanks,bro, and, MAY u test cyberpunk 2077 with low quality and fsr 2.1 under 4k resolution?
Can something like Half Life Alyx run on this?
allways a nice job with a pretty cyberpunk
Good work!
Seems like its basically Steam Deck level performance which is pretty nice!
Valve is building an ARM version of Proton, too. When that's done, Steam Deck Verified games will run on Apple Silicon.
@@Poo0fi Honestly if that actually happens, and its just as easy to install games and run em as the steamdeck. I might get this purely for pc gaming, and a powerful media center for my TV, the PS5 is great but it really lacks in the media department and games are way too expensive.
Can it play AOE4 now?
is it heating?
So you used Parallels 20 to play those games?
not pararell but crossover pararell is runing windows arm when crossover emulating x86 software
Can Zelda TOTK play well at m4?
He will have to do that emulator test to confirm, but I suspect that particular title won't be much of a problem, since it's made to run on a Switch.
Aiming to replace M2 Pro Mini with M4 Pro next year for my work. Doesn’t hurt it can game too 😊
Please i need that update to play switch games on my mac mini m4
can play black myth?
Got mine today. Been looking for a pc and I never gone with a Mac before.
1080p ? pls...