I find the interactions with kiljaeden quite interesting, tracking and fracking grab stuff from the portal. Because the portal is not a deck fanottem always costs 30 but destroying your deck with wheel of death while it’s up counts towards the ceaseless expanse
As far as I am aware, because of how Kil'jaeden works it only refills your deck when you try to draw (EDIT: or shuffle), meaning you can play Wheel of Death then immediately play Fanottem on the same turn so long as you don't draw (or shuffle) cards in between those actions.
I know that was not the point here but how did that ever got through playtesting? All Mages yesterday eventually killed me with Molten Rune because of Overflow Surger. I mean you really had to build up a spelldmg combo in the past, now you just spam Elementals. And there is almost nothing you can do to disrupt this shit because they are just way too fast. Obnoxious expansion so far...
That last game surprised me. Major respect for a fellow Reno DH enjoyer. Havent played it since expansion launch, but man was it fun to try and make it work pre expansion. Might have to revisit it and Reno Paladin.
Hey Roffle, you’ll most likely never see this comment but I had a Demon Hunter deck focused on Kil’jaden too but I used quest to get an extra discount on those demons from the portal. I also used a drakkari enchanter to get the portal primed so I’m better off with the discounted demons. Would love to see a more viable variation from you some day!
Every time I find an archetype I find enjoyable, Blizzard makes a single card (or makes a change to surrounding cards) so the archetype is now unplayable. It’s almost like they hate all players besides the fastest of fast smork decks and is actively discouraging everyone but those players to spend money on this game.
I'm kinda doing the same thing with Druid. Un'Goro Brochure and Taelan Fordring get it in my hand very consistently, and the rest of the deck is basically spells. Throw down KJ on turn 4 and then having a bunch of card draw is fun, if not the best way to play it. Also thrown him in to a few of my lategame ETC sideboards, as insurance against Bombs and Plagues. Just overall love the card. It doesn't have to be Quasar levels of power to be fun.
Man the kiljaeden portal seems to work really weirdly in regards to what the deck actually is and how it interacts with getting specific types of cards.
I think Kil'jaedan is one of the best additions to the game in this expansion, because it gives control players a strong endgame tool that doesn't feel painful to lose to. I think Kil'jaedan has the potential to allow true control decks to come back without forcing them to rely on fatigue gameplan, nor having to worry about fatigue or cards like Tho'grun.
I do not know what people are smoking. First of all Kil removes one of the win conditions which is fatigue. Not good. More importantly, however, it changes the game, if both players play him, into one of those random Tavern Brawls where your skill does not matter because you got three crappy demons in a row and your opponent got exactly what he needed to win. Oh it also removes shuffling win cons like bombs and plagues. Not a fun card in my book.
@@sathrielsatanson666 The fact that it removes these wincons is the reason it's so good. Because these wincons are awful to begin with. Idk what YOU are smoking for claiming otherwise.
@@alonkob2127 No, fatigue was always an integral part of HS and way to prevent games from going for an hour. So I am smoking the pipe that makes me believe that Kil is regarded because it allows that. Not that it matters that much, mind you, because control is not useable anyway in the current meta.
@@sathrielsatanson666 Kil'jaedan doesn't allow games to last on forever, it generates for you bigger and bigger threats, so it also has an inevitability aspect. But because this form of inevitability is board based instead of just uninteractive grindy damage, it's infinitely more interesting, and straight up more healthy. Strategies based on fatigue, mill or plagues are are inherently boring, unfun and usually toxic. They lead to games that feel one sided, and if anything they make one player's choices and decisions completely pointless. If you think these strategies are anything but toxic, I don't know what to tell you, except that it's a really good thing that you aren't a developer.
@alonkob2127 it also generates taunts and lifesteal minions. You do not have to explain how it works, I have been in games wheregame was going 15 turns after Kil was played.
@ I had played this version for awhile back when this released and it’s completely random, it’s likely but there’s no guarantees the rush minion will even be in there. Multiple games I’ve drawn nothing or just one of them from the portal
After he plays Kil'Jaeden, there are a few rush demons such as the 6/6 for 6 that reduces cost by 6 and Illidari 8/8 for 8 etc so he might guarantee a draw 2 for 2?
I think Kil'jaeden battle cry stack, right? If you play like 3 Kil'jaeden, you would get like +6/+6 each end of turn. I really want to see the deck focus on playing as much Kil'jaeden to get like +50/+50 or something.
Elemental Fire Mage do be oppressive. What pisses me off is that the gameplay on their side is mostly mindless. Let's hope other decks will flourish. KJ is a very fun card as well:)
Keep the chain of elementals going, check. Draw a bunch and deal 2+ damage to everybody for almost no mana, check. Randomly get infinite damage spells if you have the splitting elemental, check. The opponent walled up and didn't kill me yet? Deal 6+ damage with each of the nerfed elementals, ignoring his field, check. That's the gameplay I've seen played against me. I am trying to find something that has a neutral to good match up against it while not committing too much into dealing with them only. That said, it's entirely possible it's me who's bad at dealing with the "issue" at hand:)
I have had it with these motherfreakin druids playing this motherfreakin card. Seriously. DELETE it. Or make it pure Warlock card, as it WAS SUPPOSED to be. Classes like druid having already infinite access to dragons in control decks PLUS this shit? Unbelievable, Blizz.
I can see why you do it, but as someone who just enjoys casually watching HS I really dislike how you click away the opponents cards when they're played. Some of the new cards I have no idea what they do, and you dismissing them so quickly gives new players no time to read the card.
I find the interactions with kiljaeden quite interesting, tracking and fracking grab stuff from the portal. Because the portal is not a deck fanottem always costs 30 but destroying your deck with wheel of death while it’s up counts towards the ceaseless expanse
I believe the portal is a deck that is always refilled
yes its just a 30 card deck with portal animation. Saw it when i played tony in arena
@@hollowlord8548 Yep, that's how it is, it gets refilled at every possible opportunity.
Myra's Unstable Element finally has a deck
As far as I am aware, because of how Kil'jaeden works it only refills your deck when you try to draw (EDIT: or shuffle), meaning you can play Wheel of Death then immediately play Fanottem on the same turn so long as you don't draw (or shuffle) cards in between those actions.
5:58 must resist urge to make dark joke
Saruun only gives Fire Spell Damage +1, so the first mage wouldn't deal damage with Overdraft
they were only 1 damage off lethal, unless trading gave them that damage spell they could have just pinged for lethal
@@squid_squad42069could also trade the 1/2 first.
I know that was not the point here but how did that ever got through playtesting? All Mages yesterday eventually killed me with Molten Rune because of Overflow Surger.
I mean you really had to build up a spelldmg combo in the past, now you just spam Elementals. And there is almost nothing you can do to disrupt this shit because they are just way too fast. Obnoxious expansion so far...
@@bonmotze need to learn to livw with it or move on. Explosive fast games is HS nowadays.
@@certainheads yeap, 0+1=1.
That last game surprised me. Major respect for a fellow Reno DH enjoyer. Havent played it since expansion launch, but man was it fun to try and make it work pre expansion. Might have to revisit it and Reno Paladin.
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Not really its kil'jaedens animation@@nahuelteston9516
Perfect theme Kil'Jaeden commander of the legion (beside Sargeras hes the true lord supreme) , in a deck who hunts legion's and demons.
Props for including that DH vs DH game. It was quite entertaining
no 9/11 never forget joke, Roffle is changing 😢
7/11 was a part-time job.
I dont play anymore this game, but i love Roffle decks !
Love this deck. Thank you
Hey Roffle, you’ll most likely never see this comment but I had a Demon Hunter deck focused on Kil’jaden too but I used quest to get an extra discount on those demons from the portal. I also used a drakkari enchanter to get the portal primed so I’m better off with the discounted demons. Would love to see a more viable variation from you some day!
Every time I find an archetype I find enjoyable, Blizzard makes a single card (or makes a change to surrounding cards) so the archetype is now unplayable.
It’s almost like they hate all players besides the fastest of fast smork decks and is actively discouraging everyone but those players to spend money on this game.
Or you are matched with your counters constantly. But yes, completely frustating.
I'm kinda doing the same thing with Druid. Un'Goro Brochure and Taelan Fordring get it in my hand very consistently, and the rest of the deck is basically spells. Throw down KJ on turn 4 and then having a bunch of card draw is fun, if not the best way to play it.
Also thrown him in to a few of my lategame ETC sideboards, as insurance against Bombs and Plagues.
Just overall love the card. It doesn't have to be Quasar levels of power to be fun.
Man the kiljaeden portal seems to work really weirdly in regards to what the deck actually is and how it interacts with getting specific types of cards.
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I think Kil'jaedan is one of the best additions to the game in this expansion, because it gives control players a strong endgame tool that doesn't feel painful to lose to. I think Kil'jaedan has the potential to allow true control decks to come back without forcing them to rely on fatigue gameplan, nor having to worry about fatigue or cards like Tho'grun.
I do not know what people are smoking. First of all Kil removes one of the win conditions which is fatigue. Not good. More importantly, however, it changes the game, if both players play him, into one of those random Tavern Brawls where your skill does not matter because you got three crappy demons in a row and your opponent got exactly what he needed to win.
Oh it also removes shuffling win cons like bombs and plagues. Not a fun card in my book.
@@sathrielsatanson666 The fact that it removes these wincons is the reason it's so good. Because these wincons are awful to begin with. Idk what YOU are smoking for claiming otherwise.
@@alonkob2127 No, fatigue was always an integral part of HS and way to prevent games from going for an hour. So I am smoking the pipe that makes me believe that Kil is regarded because it allows that.
Not that it matters that much, mind you, because control is not useable anyway in the current meta.
@@sathrielsatanson666 Kil'jaedan doesn't allow games to last on forever, it generates for you bigger and bigger threats, so it also has an inevitability aspect. But because this form of inevitability is board based instead of just uninteractive grindy damage, it's infinitely more interesting, and straight up more healthy. Strategies based on fatigue, mill or plagues are are inherently boring, unfun and usually toxic. They lead to games that feel one sided, and if anything they make one player's choices and decisions completely pointless. If you think these strategies are anything but toxic, I don't know what to tell you, except that it's a really good thing that you aren't a developer.
@alonkob2127 it also generates taunts and lifesteal minions. You do not have to explain how it works, I have been in games wheregame was going 15 turns after Kil was played.
Does Tony or other deck stealing shenanigans interact with the portal?
so why does this deck have Rush the stage if there are no Rush minions ??
Why is Rush the Stage in the deck with no rush minions..?
Because the Demon Portal always has 2 minions with Rush. The combo is saving the card for the portal to get 2 5 cost rush minions
@ I had played this version for awhile back when this released and it’s completely random, it’s likely but there’s no guarantees the rush minion will even be in there. Multiple games I’ve drawn nothing or just one of them from the portal
This feels like the WoW expansion all over again, including Jaina jobbing
Play kiljaeden shaman and triple the battlecry with shudder block
@@vladimirefest4980 to what point?
@ because big numbers.
Roffle is going to do what to Jaeden????? 😮
am I missing something? why play rush the stage in a deck with 0 rush minions?
After he plays Kil'Jaeden, there are a few rush demons such as the 6/6 for 6 that reduces cost by 6 and Illidari 8/8 for 8 etc so he might guarantee a draw 2 for 2?
@@outlawzqc maybe drawing 2 after playing kiljaeden seems really optimistic, why not just play paraglide, hand seems to empty pretty fast after KJ
@@outlawzqcI’ve been playing it and it seems it’s not even guaranteed. Two rush the stages got me one rush minion
... why is Rush the Stage in this deck?
To draw cost reducted demons from the portal
@@ratmations8306 Just played one after Kil'jaden. and Ended up drawing nothing
@@StrikorD4C it depends on whether you roll any rush demons from the portal. It can hit spirit peddler which is a strong card to pull from portal
Who is Jaeden and why are we killing him?
He is the guy who played in Karate Kid and After Earth 😮
Just give it a year Roffle. 😆
6:00 huh o_O
5:57 🧐
Why trading the 6/6 when the extra 3 damage from the spell finish it off arrghhh
Roffle please I'm dying and my doctor said you need RAWfle please post 1 hour videos please
He is no longer streaming hearthstone. No more vods.
…yo Roffle, I heard KilJaeden hates Balatro. Maybe you shouldn’t associate with the fella
If you dont hate him, why did you kill him? 😢
Killjaden reminds me of elysianna.. if one deck plays it.. all start to do it...and then it becomes boring
Yeah, it also becomes an RNG fest like Elysiana.
I think Kil'jaeden battle cry stack, right? If you play like 3 Kil'jaeden, you would get like +6/+6 each end of turn. I really want to see the deck focus on playing as much Kil'jaeden to get like +50/+50 or something.
They don't stack sadly. Playing a new one doesn't even reset the counter
Elemental Fire Mage do be oppressive.
What pisses me off is that the gameplay on their side is mostly mindless.
Let's hope other decks will flourish. KJ is a very fun card as well:)
Is it mindless though? I feel like if you want to play it properly you need to count damage and mana a few turns ahead.
Maybe the problem is that it is still oppressive even though most people play it mindlessly
Keep the chain of elementals going, check. Draw a bunch and deal 2+ damage to everybody for almost no mana, check. Randomly get infinite damage spells if you have the splitting elemental, check.
The opponent walled up and didn't kill me yet? Deal 6+ damage with each of the nerfed elementals, ignoring his field, check.
That's the gameplay I've seen played against me. I am trying to find something that has a neutral to good match up against it while not committing too much into dealing with them only.
That said, it's entirely possible it's me who's bad at dealing with the "issue" at hand:)
I have had it with these motherfreakin druids playing this motherfreakin card. Seriously. DELETE it. Or make it pure Warlock card, as it WAS SUPPOSED to be. Classes like druid having already infinite access to dragons in control decks PLUS this shit? Unbelievable, Blizz.
really no sense card, u can nevr win against an infinite portal. never and never Bliz must remove it
I can see why you do it, but as someone who just enjoys casually watching HS I really dislike how you click away the opponents cards when they're played. Some of the new cards I have no idea what they do, and you dismissing them so quickly gives new players no time to read the card.
Such an annoying card