Fencing Gadgets; Gripples Vs Crimps Vs Fencing Knots. The Positives and the Negatives

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  • Sometimes you don't want to tie a fence knot or you just don't have the room. I compare two popular fence joining gadgets that replace knots, the Gripple and the Crimp. What is best? The Gripple, Crimp or Knot? It all depends on your perspective, although my bad experience with one of these might influence my opinion in this video a little....
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  • @lancesay
    @lancesay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i dont even have a farm and why it is that i cant stop watching these videos; i came here wanting to learn how to tide a truckers' hitch. thanks for the videos tim!

  • @JustineDodd
    @JustineDodd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is all a new world for me - thank you for the clarity in your videos - I now feel confident that I can repair my fences myself without paying a man to do it - and that is a good feeling!

  • @plaxtolport470
    @plaxtolport470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Gripples are really good for tying a wire to a post. Feed the wire through the gripple then around the post and back through the gripple. The wire can then be tensioned by hand - no tools required.

  • @mitchellkeating7956
    @mitchellkeating7956 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Use gripple as shown then tie/wrap ends around wire like any other fence knot, close as possible to gripple. Just an extra safeguard if gripple fails.
    Just a handy tip 😀

    • @rokekor7952
      @rokekor7952 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Better yet you take surplus wire through a gripple, then bend it BACK OVER the gripple and wrap the wire around itself. That does two things: it prevents slipping, and it gives you surplus wire to allow the gripple tool to re-strain the wire if you need to down the track.

  • @rescuecow90
    @rescuecow90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I use all three and gripples using the proper contractor tensioner tool are the best,never had one fail yet.

    • @charliegilbert1907
      @charliegilbert1907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don’t think like that as one will fail at least once

  • @BC-yv8ew
    @BC-yv8ew 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Very good. I've been skeptical of gripples. Looks like I'll be sticking with knots and crimp sleeves. Keep the videos coming!

  • @mayab9203
    @mayab9203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video! Hearing about that hand injury will make me a lot more cautious when building my fence this weekend. I'll be using crimps. Thanks again!!

  • @devriescustomleather1109
    @devriescustomleather1109 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Knots for me, 67 and doing my first HT wire fence Thanks Tim my second time through all the vids got all my tools and getting startred soon!! Wish you were here to help!!

  • @davel9909
    @davel9909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unreal videos mate thank you so much! your lessons have been a huge help getting my hobby farm up and running. I've been able to get rid of a d*head, "fencer" who was doing an expensive, sub par job and start doing the job properly myself.
    Its great how you put so much info in your videos while being concise and straight to the point. really helpful stuff.

  • @johndon74
    @johndon74 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great stuff Tim. Another really clear good Instructional video.

  • @craigwillis3372
    @craigwillis3372 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video Tim I use Gripples most of the time and have never had one fail (or injure me!) I use the Gripple tool thingy to re-strain the fence and it works fine. I also usually do a figure 8 knot at one end of the replacement wire as well and I also use a Texas fence fixer which is a great product!!

  • @cheryl4729
    @cheryl4729 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    EXCELLENT video! Thank you so much for writing about this stuff. As a novice, I need all the info I can get! :-) I nearly wasted $$$ on gripples...We have the expensive crimping tool you showed, but it is so heavy for me to hold while I try to get the crimp in the right position to pinch it! ugh. I am going to watch your video on knots again...

  • @jillbarnes4847
    @jillbarnes4847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very useful. I hadn't realize the dangers of the gripple! Thank you for the examples.

  • @Digger12363
    @Digger12363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Here in the uk I use gripples alot as it's a quick easy way to join stay wire. We have special tools for them that pulls the wire through them and tention the wire at the same time eliminating the use of the strainers

  • @craigwillis3372
    @craigwillis3372 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video Tim...I have never had a Gripple fail and use a gripple strainer a lot when repairing fence wire....,but of course I twitch the wire at both ends of the gripple. Crimping is fiddly and takes too long...but in my humble opinion a good knot cannot be beaten. I think with fencing it also depends on the age of the wire you are straining and or joining so for old wire I go to the end of the post and replace the old wire with new! Your tips are great ( and I am not talking about your hair)

  • @AB-ye7bw
    @AB-ye7bw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect presentation, spot on !

  • @w00dsta
    @w00dsta 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. I have dozens of gripples and use them to tension a fence without the chain strainer. The gripple tool has a strain gauge so I get them the same every time. If I am using the chain strainer, I wouldn't bother with a gripple and would just do a knot.

  • @JoLynch0
    @JoLynch0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tim! You forgot to mention that an advantage to Gripples is the wire can be retensioned down the track, something you cannot do with that knot or crimp. You also didn't mention ratchet strainers or permanent wire strainers - they can be as cheap as a Gripple and easy to use, and make retensioning a fence very easy for years to come. Very common in NZ. I have loads of rough older fences that often need tightening during their life and opted to use these over Gripples because you only needed a small shifter to tighten as you ride past.

    • @highphysics3617
      @highphysics3617 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jo,you made some very good points. i.e.ability to re-tension wires with gripples in place. Not sure if it's false security,or,not,but,I always bend the tails 90 degrees,as soon as the gripple is set,and,leave about an inch on each tail. As I reached a "mature" age I began looking for easier ways to strain up wires,when hands don't work as well,and,decided on ratchet strainers. Sure they were a bit expensive on 8 line ringlock,as well as the " hot" wires,but,I've forgotten about the cost,7 years down the track. ;),and,they do make life much easier.

    • @highphysics3617
      @highphysics3617 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yay ! Me too...in fact I began to enjoy the fence inspections with only a trusty shifter. All the work fitting the ratchet strainers has been well justified,and,as for the expense,it has paid for itself over,and,over. Money well spent.

  • @thompmichael
    @thompmichael 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hang on - the whole point of the Gripple is that we can regularly restrain the fence whenever required (important here in Western Canada with cold winters and hot summers). Also they are ideal conductors for electric fencing and they can also be removed if required using a simple tool to remove the straining grip. Hence you NEVER twist of the ends of the wire rather you use a Gripple Plastic sheath that holds them tight to the strained wire. Good video but really not a fair assessment of the Gripple.

    • @thompmichael
      @thompmichael 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@FarmLearningTim Tim - I think the problem maybe your using Hayes type strainers that apply too much strainer and can break the wire. Gripples are not designed for this and to avoid any potential failures I only use the Gripple Strainer. Also with electric fencing you really don't need excessively strained wire. Not trying to be argumentative just want everyone to understand the issues more clearly and the real beneficial purpose and use of the Gripple system. If your viewers are simply looking for a cheap way to join wire I agree Gripples may not be the best solution.

  • @randomanonymoushuman
    @randomanonymoushuman ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad I read the comments or I would be regretting just buying my gripple gun with built-in tensioner. I bought it because the existing fence was done by a fencing contractor and they used gripples.

  • @antons8096
    @antons8096 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gripples with a special gripple tensioner tool that pulls them tight is great for short runs under 5m. Otherwise need to use ratchet tensioners that are around $5 each. I use knots for longer runs but for short runs and joining mesh gripples are easier.

  • @postbusters-poundedpostfen717
    @postbusters-poundedpostfen717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gripples are great for my deer fencing here in BC. Easier on my hands with less wire twisting every day.

  • @ahorseman4ever1
    @ahorseman4ever1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tim, of course another informative video that helps us blokes building fence. Thank you. I have shared your videos on my social media and look forward to sharing and giving you shout outs on my channel.

  • @johnwp111
    @johnwp111 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video keep them coming.

    • @rodneyblake9093
      @rodneyblake9093 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have used thousands of gripples had no problems over 25 years

  • @steveash656
    @steveash656 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful.

  • @andrewduffy9767
    @andrewduffy9767 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great to see Eric Cantona is enjoying his retirement from British/International Football.

  • @adamw5536
    @adamw5536 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info here Tim! I must say as a Kiwi I was pretty glad to see some trusty Hayes 108's and Strainrite crimping tool in use there! My boss has a good ten sets 108's we use day to day that I imagine are nearly older than me (32!!) and still do the job every time. They seem to be the standard here in NZ for contractors and so on. Is this the case in Aus as well? Kinda leads me to my next point :P Was thinking it would be great to see a video on a bit more tool maintenance. I know you did one about looking after your hammer but I've found myself wondering things like how often should I sharpen my spade, oil my eze-pulls, chain strainers and stuff like that. Sadly my boss isn't huge on maintenance and stuff like that but as an ex-chef I know all too well the importance of having your tools in good working order. Anyway, thanks again for a great video, always looking forward to the next one!

  • @ianb9028
    @ianb9028 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use swages (crimps) doing rigging on boats when I was competitive sailing. When using them on the fence wire I always put a twist in the wire at each end. The reason being the 1X19 or 7X7 stainless rigging wire compresses when swaged and the swage will deform to match the wire profile when the swaging tool is compressed.
    The plain fencing wire does not compress so can slip back through the swage over time.
    Always put a twist in the tail after the swage.

  • @bluebadger14
    @bluebadger14 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tim the gripples in your video are really old they havent been around for probably 10 years or more. There is also a special vineyard gripple called a jumbo which the waratah people sold me at a field day here in SA specific to use for their growire and ive been using them ever since, i get them from my local store. you should give them a go - no problems like the old ones you have - you will be surprised how good they are and we mechanical harvest no problems. i am now using them on big strains and 3.15 wire so they are heavily loaded.

  • @dave29123
    @dave29123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very informative.

  • @bofe1709
    @bofe1709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I tried to crimp new galv wire, but it keeps slipping when tension is applied. I think it might be because of the high content of galvanized coating of the wire. Is there any way around this? so as to use crimps on brand new oval wire? Thanks!

  • @vtbn53
    @vtbn53 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the Ratchet Strainer (e.g. Strainrite's) or even the good old turn buckle? They both eliminate the need for the (expensive straining tool) straining tool...

  • @johnwhite2576
    @johnwhite2576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crimps for bare wire, gripple for coated wire (e.g., deer fence) as you can retighten if deer runs into fence

  • @farmfencesolutionsllc7804
    @farmfencesolutionsllc7804 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Good video Tim. The first rounds of Gripples, which you are demonstrating, have a well deserved bad reputation. We use and abuse the current versions every day, and don't have the failures even after several years in service. The original version was bad to let moisture in, then freeze and destroy the inner workings. The Gripple Plus.....right around a dollar if you know where to shop ;-).....seems to have solved this issue, as we have temperature swings of up to 130 degrees F, with high moisture, in a year without seeing these issues anymore. I agree that a hand tied knot is always superior, but isn't always an option for DIY fencers or high volume contractors. Tying real fencing knots is become a lost (never found, in most cases) art here in the States, and that is sad. Proper knots are a display of craftsmanship that few understand and appreciate.

    • @farmfencesolutionsllc7804
      @farmfencesolutionsllc7804 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tim Thompson It’s also fair to note that a Gripple will do more than simply join two wires. When used with a Gripple Contractor Tool, it becomes a tensioning device.....essentially replaces a ratchet strainer. We can gut strain a net wire Fence past any manufacturers recommend tension using only Gripples and the contractor tool. I’ll have to send you a bag of goodies to try out. 👍

    • @adamw5536
      @adamw5536 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's really quite interesting about fencing knots and such in the States. I am quite new to the fencing world but am being trained by a twenty year veteran fencing contractor here in New Zealand. Gripples (or Fastloks in NZ) seem to be very rare here, with knots being used practically on every occasion, except when permanent wire strainers are being used. Crimps are definitely around but knots are standard. Something I have been wondering about as someone who loves travel and has always thought about spending some time in the USA is: is there a demand for this kind of work over there? As I said, I'm pretty new to the game but I know NZ farm workers are in quite high demand around the world for various skills that seem to be used here more than other places. I'm just wondering if fencing is one of those skills or if it's more a case of people not seeing the worth in spending the extra time/money to get the best craftsman for the job. Cheers from NZ :)

    • @adamw5536
      @adamw5536 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers Tim! Will do!

    • @farmfencesolutionsllc7804
      @farmfencesolutionsllc7804 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Murray, we are always in need of good fencers here. I would be glad to have you on our team, should you want to come to the States for a spell. As I hope Tim will attest, I'm a hand knotter at heart. Grippples are very useful, but are no replacement for a real fencer.

    • @adamw5536
      @adamw5536 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah wow thanks very much! I'm quite new to fencing, having spent the last 15 years working as a chef. I finished with that and went and did a basic agriculture course and as that finished up I landed a job fencing. Perfect! The guy I work for has 20 years experience and is really happy teaching me the craft so I think I'll be with him for a while as it's such a good place to learn. But down the track a little nothing would make me happier to get over to the States to dig in some different dirt!!

  • @jonathangabler
    @jonathangabler 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Tim. Great demo - thank you! What happened to the tie-off for the gripple though? Video cut out... at approx 3:00

  • @paddydunne774
    @paddydunne774 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t blame you for the disdain for Gripples. They can be a pain. I use them when I’m putting up 1250mm Equi -Mesh and for replacing damaged stock netting as it does save time. But on long runs stick with knots as it’s what we always used. Heaven forbid wasting money on joiners and such like. Top bombing fella 👌

  • @jsnthurst1
    @jsnthurst1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What metal are the crimps made of? I saw shorter crimps that are made of aluminum, Seems aluminum could crack and fail.

  • @carllogan7603
    @carllogan7603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good content good to see the whay ya do it in Australia oh and hello from nz

  • @rossholmes178
    @rossholmes178 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your insight Tim....just a couple of questions. Firstly, any suggestions on where to source crimps? Rural fencing supply stores in my area (Gundaroo, NSW) claim never to have heard of them and look at me as if I just got off a spacecraft when I ask for them. Secondly, I struggle getting the strainers (similar to yours) off tensioned wire - any tips? And finally, in this video you really bag Gripples yet in your Spiralfast review you spoke quite highly of them...I know they were being used slightly differently but you comments in this vid came across as VERY negative. Appreciate any assistance you may be able to lend...cheers.

  • @randybrown1563
    @randybrown1563 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    when should I use barbed wire or not use it ? I have sheep and plan to get cows . I have barbed wire on the perimeter fences . what kind of wire is good for dividing the pastures . thanks a lot

  • @natashalanser-block9709
    @natashalanser-block9709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video has been very useful, I have had a few Gripples come loose and after watching this will learn to tie knots. Can Gripples be removed without having to cut the wire? (The style must be old as they dont have the release keyhole)

  • @cliffcunningham2147
    @cliffcunningham2147 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to hear some local birds in the back ground.

  • @JohnnyLong2000
    @JohnnyLong2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Actually the crimper, you can take a large bolt cutter, many run you for like $20, and you take a decent metal bit in the diameter of your crimp and drill a hole, to convert a standard bolt cutter into a crimper/swaging tool. you can still keep the back jaws of your bolt cutter too, for cutting, so you now have a multi-tool, like most lineman pliers, you have your cutting edge and your crimping edge.

  • @darrylbartlett9297
    @darrylbartlett9297 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have always tied knots in my fence. But I have an upcoming job with horse (no climb) mesh that is going to require multiple splices in the mesh. Tying knots in this is far from reasonable, I am leaning towards crimps for these splices. But perhaps the new gripples are the way to go

  • @user-nn4bs5ct5i
    @user-nn4bs5ct5i 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what fencing knot was that you were showing there tim ??

  • @scottyg4605
    @scottyg4605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10 ton Hydraulic crimper tool set on eBay from $45 for cheap ones but I'd invest about $100 for a half tidy set and they will take out the stress from compressing the handles. Also they give a stronger crimp up to 16 tons of pressure. Great video 👍👍👍 thanks Tim.

  • @estebanjames325
    @estebanjames325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Tim!!! so many gadgets out there, and none yet to crimp them easier, nice challenge for one of those firms you've been in contact with, eg: with a cordless drill?
    KEEP it coming, I really enjoy all your articles...

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch this space.... seriously....

  • @erraticleeme6760
    @erraticleeme6760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Think I’ll still give the grippers a go, because I got no fencing skills and I need to replace about 150m in the Bush part of my property after the bushfires burnt it. I want to add loop wire (I think it’s called) as well... 🤔

  • @dandybounddandybound1064
    @dandybounddandybound1064 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    New Sub.....Crimp best use/ design should be used as 2 on ends of the wire.Grimple used with knot would be safer option,Another option is sleeve which is a form of Crimp.Knots look better but used wire can sometimes fail.

  • @rockinghorselivestock2491
    @rockinghorselivestock2491 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Tim. I found you from On pasture. What knot would you use to join the wire instead of the gadgets? The figure 8 knot?

  • @whitewolf6730
    @whitewolf6730 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good! I need me to get a fence strainer!!!

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fenceline Solutions Strainers - Game Changers? A Review.

  • @2nostromo
    @2nostromo ปีที่แล้ว

    Top man

  • @gerrymckeown9483
    @gerrymckeown9483 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More great work. Thanks Tim. I was just about to start using gripples. I had to cut some sheep mesh, plain wire and barb wire to free a kangaroo who had got caught (yes, took the poor thing to the vets after). Do you have a video showing how to repair all three - right in the middle of two star pickets. Cheers

  • @danielofearth8901
    @danielofearth8901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    G'day Tim, any suggestions where I would find myself a quality crimping tool and supply of crimps (in Tassie)? Cheers, top videos btw. Bloody love 'em!!

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I use the Hayes crimping tool and crimps mate. Should be reasonably easy to get.

  • @niallwildwoode7373
    @niallwildwoode7373 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What you're missing out re the Gripples - you can buy straining tools that'll hold the Gripple and pull the wire through to a specified torque. I use them all the time, and if you spin or bend the wire tails, the Gripples won't fail. I've only had them die on a third re-use. You're giving them an undeservedly bad reputation, because you're not using them properly.
    Re the crimps, why pay so much for the crimping tool? Electrical crimpers work exactly the same, can be strong enough to crimp steel tube and cost a quarter of the crimpers you've used. Think laterally!

    • @kevinvogelsang5612
      @kevinvogelsang5612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Niall Wildwoode if your wrapping the wire ends around a gripple you might as well just do a wire knot in the first place.

  • @jackvonfeld1178
    @jackvonfeld1178 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much did the tensioner cost?

  • @DaleKMoffatt
    @DaleKMoffatt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Tim, I’m new to farming and your videos are a big help. I used gobbles yesterday for the first time, I should have seen your video first and I’ll take your advise and invest in crimps now.

  • @sheilasmith1109
    @sheilasmith1109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would also like to ask, why you do not turn the wire around the end side of each crimp after cutting the wires?

    • @sheilasmith1109
      @sheilasmith1109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tim Thompson Thanks! If it’s not needed, then I can fix fencing faster and enjoy a glass of great Aussie wine and look at what a great job I’ve done, thanks to your helping me!

  • @dc1397
    @dc1397 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have a video of the construction of your end posts design?

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lots mate. Many different designs. Try my short course for step by step instruction tim-s-site-552c.thinkific.com/collections

  • @johnnytoobad4287
    @johnnytoobad4287 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cripples are good in that they are easy to use and fast. Crimps are a lot cheaper, take more effort but hold forever

  • @duorah
    @duorah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the cheapest option for the tensioning tool?

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t get one under a hundred bucks. I go through the reasons in this video th-cam.com/video/ngWdp96iMd0/w-d-xo.html

  • @johnsadler8637
    @johnsadler8637 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ran across this video today. Interesting comparison of three techniques. We have 5-strand 12.5-ga barbed wire, and have always tied knots of one sort or another, but those are difficult to make neatly and usually require a short piece of spare wire in the middle so there are all kinds of loops, wraps, and knots at any splice. I looked at cripples but did not like the unit cost. I experimented with crimped sleeve connectors, and eventually found a way to splice neatly and with some confidence it would hold. Of course, time will tell me that last. I used a standard ~20”/0.5-m bolt cutter to crimp, with parallel crimps on the end and 90 degree turned in between. My first try used a spare bit of barbed wire in between the crimp splices, but I found that 9-ga smooth wire in between was easier to use - no need to get past any barbs. I tension with clamps outside the sleeve, and the heavy smooth wire just crawls through the sleeve without trouble- much better than having to force the twisted double strand barbed wire through. As I said, we’ll see if any of these give way after a winter of cold weather shrinkage and deer or cattle hitting them. However, I think I’ve found an improved method for me. It is much faster than knotting that

    • @johnsadler8637
      @johnsadler8637 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, inadvertently sent. ... than knotting that 12.5-ga twisted pair with barbs every handspan or so, at least when I do it. It looks a lot better than my knots too.

  • @hagopianharout2238
    @hagopianharout2238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer crimps as well but where can I buy it from? I contacted few farm fence suppliers they didn’t knew exactly the one you showing us. I also need to see image of both the crimps and the tool
    Thank you

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hayes HC2 crimps with Hayes crimp tool

    • @hagopianharout2238
      @hagopianharout2238 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FarmLearningTim thank you TT I already bought it from Cyclon distributor from Kemps Creek .
      Because your clips all are 1m to 1.2 m high but it Will be grate if you make some clips 1.8m high to learn how to use both (smooth & barbed) wires straining/ tension in 1.8 height.
      I had to put additional 1.8m post before last post and using another post diagonal to resist the force then using wire tension.
      Looking forward to see your new clip with 1.8 m high wire chain fence
      Thank you 🙏 TT

  • @soundman6645
    @soundman6645 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    those swages or crimps as you call them look very similar to those we use on sranded steel wire, for industrial rigging, sail boat rigging and wire baulestrading.
    You can buy generic hand swage tools for those for about $65, (these do up to 1/8 wire), there is a bigger version that does up to 3/16 wire. There are also hydraulic tools that will do the whole swage in one bite.
    The name brand hydraulic tools cost hundreds, the generic ones are cheaper.
    .
    ya need to bend the tag end down so they are not man traps.
    .
    I agree ya better off with knots mostly, and spending $50 on a pair of good name brand fencing pliers

  • @djg585
    @djg585 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crimps are $.25, and a crimping tool $30, on ebay. I made a crimping tool out of an $18 bolt cutter.

  • @therealsideburnz
    @therealsideburnz ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have to guess that the crimps make a better electrical connection than a knot. Anybody know for sure one way or the other?

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  ปีที่แล้ว

      Electricians use crimps or Spiralfast on transmission lines but not knots. So I think you are on the right track

  • @dogf4ther
    @dogf4ther ปีที่แล้ว

    why dont u tie the wire between the strainers like every one else does??
    and lean on handle befor crimp

  • @callmefence6789
    @callmefence6789 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video Tim.
    Couple things.. I disagree on the gripples. Properly used they hold just fine. And your paying way two much. Also you should try a good masdan come along instead of that chain strainer. Pulls just as hard and a lot handier to use.
    I know you guys in East Texas (from your accent)😉do things different but give it a try.

  • @beneaththetrees7126
    @beneaththetrees7126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Tim. I’m a fencer from SE Qld. How can I communicate with without using face book?
    I want to ask you a few things.
    Thanks Michael

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      G’day mate. Contact me via my website timthompson.ag

  • @spiralfast1387
    @spiralfast1387 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tim, that's an excellent video!! Wondering if you've used Spiralfast to join? Avoids the mechanical joiner problems you mention and retensioning is a breeze. No special tools required, just your strainer and apply by hand - super quick to do.
    Keep the videos coming...

  • @kevinvogelsang5612
    @kevinvogelsang5612 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I throw them out when I run new wire. l use crimps or a wire knot

  • @andreabond3501
    @andreabond3501 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As far as strength go’s knot or crimp ?

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out my fencing knot showdown video for all the results in kg line pull

  • @garagemechanicmummert7300
    @garagemechanicmummert7300 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought a new crimper $45. Crimps $20 for 100

  • @sheilasmith1109
    @sheilasmith1109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOU ARE AMAZING, TO THE POINT AND WONDERFUL TO WATCH AND LEARN FROM! I cannot thank you enough for making your videos! Also, I love your hat! Where can I buy one just like it? I live in Minnesota, USA!

    • @sheilasmith1109
      @sheilasmith1109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tim Thompson Thanks,Tim! I’m going to buy one ASAP!
      I also wanted to mention that your videographer is a very good one! They know how to get the shots so people can SEE what you’re talking about! Smooth and precise! Very well done!

  • @jameslyons1661
    @jameslyons1661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🏁👍

  • @mikeh6265
    @mikeh6265 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    G ripple best by a mile

  • @shaunwilliams934
    @shaunwilliams934 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You missed the main advanatge of the gripple. ie it can be used to retighten the fence if the wire goes slack. The other two methods you show do not allow retighteneing

  • @RomanMadVenturesTv
    @RomanMadVenturesTv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Definitely not be using gripple

  • @jeffreyculberth1440
    @jeffreyculberth1440 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Holy cow I think I spent $25 on my crimping tool at lowes. Yours must be made of unobtainium

    • @ecargfosreya
      @ecargfosreya 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crimping tools are not all the same. The cheap knock-off when sometimes don't do as good a job of crimping. I have two that are the exact same color and look like they are probably made in the exact same factory, but one cost three times the price and does 10 times as good a job at crimping. One thing I've noticed is that if it's pretty easy to crimp then your crimper isn't doing a very good job of crimping. It should require quite a bit of effort if you have a short-handled crimper. That's why his is so expensive is because it has those extra long handles for more leverage.

  • @Johnnydontdid
    @Johnnydontdid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not using a product because it fails after a few years is a fairly silly reason for doing so; the wire fencing itself rusts and fails after a while, so by your logic, you shouldn't use that fencing, either. Gripple is hands-down the best product for this application, better than crimping and better than knotting.
    Also, the method of tensioning being used in this video is not the recommended method for Gripples and is most likely the reason the product is failing: the product is designed to have the tension placed on the Gripple gradually using a tensioning tool; it is not meant to have the max tension dropped on it all it once like that chain system does. Like most products, the #1 reason Gripple products fail is user error. Just sayin'. Otherwise, great video, sir.

  • @monkturner4054
    @monkturner4054 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss her
    The only reason why I said this was because I had a dog named Mary Jane and we had to take her to the pound

  • @bespokefencing
    @bespokefencing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm going for crimps, seen too many "Slipples" give way under stress!

  • @stubbenmonkeyfencingtractors
    @stubbenmonkeyfencingtractors 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find you need 3 hands to use crimps.

    • @djg585
      @djg585 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try lightly compressing just one side of the crimp sleeve onto just one of the wires, just enough so that the crimp will stay in place when you next position the second wire. Then crimp the sleeve with both wires in it in the normal way.

  • @mrsledge9054
    @mrsledge9054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The main thing i noticed is that it's not a gripple (maybe a cheap chinese copy). Also the way demonstrated to use is incorrect and prone to failure i'd guess. I generally tie my wire but gripples definitely have a place. i have plenty that have been in place 10-15ish years never had one fail.

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually.... it is a gripple. Says so right on the side. Check out my other comparison video mate.

  • @kenadams3951
    @kenadams3951 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank for the gripples dangers

  • @coen555
    @coen555 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need a cheaper fencing supply shop mate.

  • @robd6827
    @robd6827 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fold the ends back on itself...

  • @ClovisMeathBaker
    @ClovisMeathBaker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are missing the point with the Gripple that so long as you leave 10cm tails you can come back and tighten it up more. With the crimp or the knots you have to start again.

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The gripple tested against other joiners here; th-cam.com/video/R009-OzJE9w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6LBlFZ0fxcTdkzwB

  • @dalereisdorph2882
    @dalereisdorph2882 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    70 cents a crimp?? Australia must be expensive!!

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Assuming that you are a yank, your dollar converts to around $1.40 AUS so you need to multiply any prices by 0.65 - 0.70 depending on exchange rates

  • @735paul
    @735paul 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Gripple CAN be restrained, only old cockys dont like em..Electric is the only way to be sure your cattle stay put

  • @johnsheltonsheltonsteadfar9737
    @johnsheltonsheltonsteadfar9737 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been using Gripples for 3 years with not one failure.
    My Gripples look different than yours... And my Gripples cost me . 90 cents each...

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey mate. I’ve been using them for 20 years and in that time I’ve seen a few failures as I’ve described. Check out my knot and joiner test video for more information. Oh... and you’re probably in the US eh? So costs are relative.

  • @led_farmer
    @led_farmer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not pushing the button why does every want me push the button if I like your page I'll subscribe to it but when you asked me to I'm not going to.. and I like gripples

  • @seanlawler6203
    @seanlawler6203 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a contractor an refuse to use them

  • @DarrenRidd
    @DarrenRidd ปีที่แล้ว

    Completely missed the point regarding the ease of restraining with Gripples....Crips cannot be tensioned and it is difficult with knots

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've seen many re-used gripples fail and do not recommend that. See this video for strength comparison th-cam.com/video/R009-OzJE9w/w-d-xo.html

  • @ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz
    @ghffrsfygdhfjkjiysdz ปีที่แล้ว

    1. The crimps are usually used with wire rope and the crimp will deform into the space between the strands creating a mechanical bond. Using the crimp on solid wire is not as secure.
    2. In some cases the crimping force is actually enough to cold weld the crimp to the wire. Naturally this would require similar metals, I doubt aluminum crimp would weld to steel wire; but in case of similar metals it may be worth while to clean the wire with some sand paper.

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  ปีที่แล้ว

      Crimps are very strong on plain wire. See my test here th-cam.com/video/R009-OzJE9w/w-d-xo.html

  • @6tgr
    @6tgr ปีที่แล้ว

    This is missleading, the old gripples as he is showing did let go and were not worth useing, the new ones which are " rounder" in shape are great, I have used thousands of them and have never had one let go at all. Also I don't see how its dangerous if the old ones let go, its just a nucance surely. But as I said its not fair to talk about the old one when the problem was fixed decades ago. the new ones have ceramic teeth and I cant see why they cant be reused, I do all the time.

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  ปีที่แล้ว

      See my knot testing video where gripples (brand new) are compared with other joining devices and knots.

    • @6tgr
      @6tgr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FarmLearningTim Hi, yes, I thought I had seen all your fencing videos but missed that one ( fencing knot showdown! What's the Strongest Fencing Knot or Joiner? We Test the Best! ) That was a great video, is it possible to put a little disclaimer in this old video noteing its talking about old style defective gripples for anyone who doesn't know yet?.. Thanks for making all your videos they have been great to watch.

  • @mfromaustralia1
    @mfromaustralia1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never thought I'd say this Tim but I disagree with you. I think you unfairly poo pooed the gripple. Sure someone lazy might just gripple the wires but that in itself is a failure I believe to understand the gripple. If you treat a gripple as the substitute for a knot, then OK you're right, you're in for a failure. Even Gripple themselves could be accused of encouraging this with those whacky little plastic slip ons they have for the wire ends. BUT if you treat the gripple as the basis for a good twist, one on each side of the gripple, ...then the twists themselves cannot slip as they are are against the body of the gripple and that, being a chunk of metal, never fails. Would you agree ?

    • @FarmLearningTim
      @FarmLearningTim  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. Twisted wire is stronger. But then you have no adjustment. A big selling point. I tested gripples as sold and I’m afraid they proved to be weaker than knots on a load cell bench.

  • @carllogan7603
    @carllogan7603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hay man ya crimping tools are cheep over there can ya get me some ill send you the $80 bucks im not paying $431.93 for whire crimping tool

  • @jerryhoughton1869
    @jerryhoughton1869 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Old fashioned ways are better, more permanent, and CHEAPER!

  • @HedgehogChopper
    @HedgehogChopper 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    we call them slipples