Joe Rogan “Van Halen Were The Kings” | Joe Rogan
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- Joe Rogan “Van Halen Were The Kings” | Joe Rogan
From JRE #2187 With Guest Adam Sandler
#jre #joerogan #joeroganexperience #joeroganpodcast #vanhalen #adamsandler #podcast
Roth era music is timeless. You can listen to that stuff today and have as much fun as you did back in the day.
Van Halen"s debut album was like a bomb went off unreal !
Totally agree!!!
their first 4 fair warning was so awesome
@jeffrey-ye9qv also agree...first 4 were ridiculously awesome 👌. So this is love...sinner swing...dirty movies just to name a few gems, but every song is badass!!!
Van Halen is the perfect name for a band.
typical Dutch name
It was Dave's idea to call the band Van Halen. He knew who he had playing with him.
@@johngiles6376 you couldn’t even make that up it’s so perfect.
Such a coincidence that it was Eddie's surname.
@@jcmusic5150
..and his brother Alex's on drums
I still remember the Van Halen's first album hit...... in High School.... Running with the Devil followed by Eruption blew our minds...........................................................
Amen......Everyone always called them a rip off of Led Zep.....(blonde good-looking front man - genius on guitar) I don't even care.....if I'm pulling out a rock album and those are my two choices.....I pull out VH every time.
I was walking home from school, found that tape in the weeds on the side of the road. Had no idea who it was. Put it in and was blown away
Hell, I just saw Sammy Hagar, Michael Anthony, Joe Satriani, and Jason Bonham do their tribute to Van Halen and it kicked more ass than the last 10 concerts I've seen from other bands.
They are doing very well playing LIVE the GREAT material from the Sammy era of VH ...This Commemorates ED & his great writing and playing....So good to hear this material LIVE again but we are all missing Alex as we are missing his beloved brother (Paul)
Seeing them tomorrow night in Dallas!
I also seen them play at the MGM in Vegas a few weeks ago... It's funny they showed one picture of Eddie Van Halen all night long... And 100 pictures of Sammy... My wife thought the same thing
I saw the Cincinnati show!
It was great!!!
100%
The first 6 Van Halen albums with Roth have this magic that hasn't been replicated by any other band since.
What are you basing that on? They had more #1 hits with Sammy. Roth was the better show man, but he’s nowhere near the singer Sammy is.
@@romowasbetterthanaikman3932 Just because an artist has a hit with a single, that doesn't mean the whole album is good.
Maybe you need to listen to the 6 albums in their entirety to understand.
@@ivorharden A hit and you’re telling me to go listen to the first six albums. Looks like you stopped listening to them after that hack Roth got the boot. You should go do some research so you don’t sound like a clown.
@@romowasbetterthanaikman3932 No, I've got all van halen albums on my phone. After Roth left, VH was still very good, but the albums were missing the early brown sound feel. The songs were not the same either. They went from dark heavy hard hitters to mostly love songs (Jack Daniels to Red wine). 5150 had some great guitar work, 0u812 is missing bass, F.u.c.k sounded decent, and Balance lacked after the first 4 songs. Maybe the clown is the person who mentions Hagar on a comment section about Roth.
@@romowasbetterthanaikman3932 You don't get it, and that's Ok. You don't understand what Sandler and Joe are talking about. You had to live it. Boi George had #1 hits, it proves nothing. VH was the "coolest" band ever and turned into a band that wrote and sang love songs for old people on AM radio. They had success and sold albums, but what made them "special" was gone! Daves prime voice was so much better than Sams. VH's music was so much better with Roth. The era of "cool" ended when Roth left!
Eddie definitely went out on top of his game. On those last tours he was bone sober & played better than ever
Totally! 2007 was a huge improvement over 2004, 2012 he was as good as his early years, but 2015 was the best I ever saw him play.
Ya @@KevyNova saw them Sept 2015 here in NW Houston and Eddie was so good
No. Don’t be ridiculous.
All eras of Van Halen were Great
I loved both DLR and Sammy, but I have to disagree with the gary cherone era of VH.
@@zimmy4868 The songs that came out during the Cherone era were generally garbage BUT, if you check out any of the shows from that VHIII tour, he and the band all sounded great. He had said that he felt they should have toured before going into the studio for VHIII, and after listening to some of those shows, he may have had a point. Also to note -- except for Cherone, they were all in their early 40s during that era. Not a lot of bands in their 40s come out with albums anyone cares about. It probably wouldn't have mattered who became their singer...they coulda had Barbara Streisand or Chris Cornell and still wouldn't have had any more big success by that point.
Not the last 20 years,
people who claim this never lived through the Roth era. You don't understand what Joe & Sandler are talking about. Roth's VH was the top of the food chain. They were the coolest band "ever". They effected the entire youth culture. Vanhagar achieved popularity and had mass appeal with AM radio love songs like a ton of other great bands. But the "cool" left with Roth and so did the crown as the greatest rock band. Their time ended when Roth left and they realized this many years later when they fired Sammy and brought Roth back
@@Moses44476erscouldn't agree more!!!
Greatest American band!
They probably would have been if they done more music. Too many dormant years. Aerosmith and ZZtop are good arguments.
@@zzeus43 lol
@@mikerad7424 No doubt VH was good but they just never could figure out a lineup after Sammy. Way too many dormant years.
Eddie wasn't second to Roth. Ed was Van Halen
They are the perfetct fusion for perfetct music. One depend from the other. In fact when Dave quit, both had good successo, but that was not Van Halen
He was second to Roth in terms of who was the most popular member of the band and got all the attention that's for sure.
@@tambor76nope
@@jehudavis5422 - Yes. Ask anyone who was there. Obviously you were not.
@@tambor76 I saw them 33 times mainly for eddie so where were you?
Love how much these 2 love Van Halen!
I look at DLR like this... he is an act, like you go to a circus and he's the ring leader, the guy with the top hot. But he did far more than that. He was the bearded lady, the trapeze swinger, and the tight rope walker, and the guy in the cannon, and then you have the clowns and the circus bear and the lion tamer. Dave handled all that with Van Halen, because Eddie and his brother and Anthony were it. You won't find a drummer with a better sounding set than Alex and those signature snares and cymbals. They were the whole circus, but Dave was the act. You watched him. But they all performed... What's one thing about those guys that were different than all other bands? They were smiling... the whole time... they're performing for you; they are doing their very best to make you feel good about being there... like its a show or something, not a concert. It's a show. And Dave should get a lot of credit for leading the way for all of them... Remember when he hurt his nose on that concert thrown by Jimmy Kimmel... What did Dave do? He apologized to the crowd for getting hurt from swinging that microphone stand around like a Jedi knight. Just amazing.
You make good points but you missed a few… the brothers were musical genius obviously but Dave was a poet and lyrical artist. Go listen to “atomic punk” or “on fire” thru and including “house of pain”. NO ONE ELSE could have put words to those killer tunes AND brought them to life visually like the king Diamond DLR! His voice did not age gracefully but his spirit lives.
@@Retiredhoghed Dave was great but Eddie wrote the music
@@pokohalen2 Yep, Eddie wrote the music, and if you wanna know what awesome music along with vanilla goofy lyrics sound like see the entire van Hagar catalog. That killer sound required a street poet like Dave to bring it to life.
@@Retiredhoghed I loved a lot of his solo stuff after he left VH. Dare I say... and I may make a few upset here, but songs like "Just Like Paradise", "Yankee Rose"... I thought they were just as good if not better than what he did with VH. I tried one time to paint my deck, and then I was listening to VH... I started to get real thirsty and went and got some beers, it instantly became a paint party of one especially when "Running with the Devil" came on, and when I tell you it was a tragic mess back there, that is putting it mildly. I got paint everywhere. But it was a good time. Even painting alone, if I hear DLR, it's a party. Nobody else comes with that vibe like Dave.
@@pokohalen2 If it wasn’t for Dave, we may have never heard Ed’s music. He was happy being in a three-piece playing Black Sabbath.
And then later on would’ve been happy being able to play more like an Allan Holdsworth. Fortunately, Dave kept the band in the spotlight.
I've just been listening to 5150 for the first time. It's F-ing amazing!
Lucky bastard. To have that sensation, listening 5150 for the first time ...
ENjoy. Would love to hear any of it for the first time again.
Robbie: And then Linda answers the door wearing nothing but my Van Halen t-shirt.
Billy Idol: No way...
Please get out of my Van Halen T-shirt before you jinx the band and they break up
See, Billy Idol gets it, I don’t know why she doesn’t get it
@@rattnroll84"Boooooguss..." ~Bill & Ted
High School 82-83. Nothing better than having VH tickets in hand for the LA Forum. What a show!!!
Speak for yourself Joe , I was a Van Halen for Eddie guitar playing .
Thank you!
exactly.. it was Eddie who was the band.. DLR was just a good showman but it was awlays EDDIE who ran the show.
Who cares if Sammy is a better singer…Roth era can’t be touched..
Well, all I can say is everyone has their preferences. I much appreciated David Lee's vocals over Sammy's, easily
I think in dlr prime, he was better than sammy
Sammy is a better singer, Dave made better music🤷♂️
I like them both
Damn straight!
Ed needed Roth like Roth needed Ed. Eddie's music without lyrics just an instrumental. Dave's lyrics without music just poetry. Together freaking magic!
Saw them 8x w/DLR!! Even at the US Festival in 83 when DLR was drunk VH still put on a great show,yes it wasn't a perfect set but hearing those songs live was a trill...they were the Ultimate Party Band!!❤😊
I was at the US fest...what day/night!!! Survival of the fittest that day. VH was badass like always. Drunk, sober, buzzed, VH put on the greatest shows I've personally ever seen.
I'll never forget that cold February night in 1978. I was 16 and in my room doing homework (a rarity for me LOL). I was listening to DC101 when the DJ says "check out this new band from L.A. called Van Halen. This will blow your mind". Then the siren starts for "Running with the devil" and KABOOM, life was never the same. Guitarists were never the same. I had just started playing guitar 2 yrs earlier (I still play in bands). I was blown away. Then we ALL heard "Eruption" and everyone went 🤯🤯🤯
Never once did I ever think DLR was the main ingredient to Van Halen. My eyes were always on Eddie. Always.
Same but after I saw Mike/Sam after the final split and then saw VH with DLR after that, I felt like while I was there to hear Ed, Sam and Mike had been the ones putting on the show, if that makes sense.
No REAL VH ever thought that. To this day and forever (even Gene Simmons knew) EDDIE WAS THE MAN! EVH is God! (Eat your heart out Clapton)
Roth was the genius behind the “Van Halen brand and corporation”
do NOT discount the importance of Dave.
@@RobertMJohnson Dave was a great front man but he didn't have a great voice. A lot was covered up.
When I was like 8 I thought David Lee Roth was the coolest guy in the world, my younger brother and I loved the Jump video. When I was 21 and in college in Chicago i had a job as a Valet, "cool job, met some crazy people, good money". Anyways, I was running back from the lot to hang up the keys from the car I just parked and there was one customer sitting outside this restaurant, he was sitting at the table furthest away which was close to the keybox, I ran right by him, stopped and backed up, he looked up at me and I was like "no way you're him". His response "yeah man, it's me dude"... I had the best night. It was like he and I just hung out as buds for a few hours. I've heard the negative stories, all I know is it was pretty cool to meet this hero.
No one had swagger like early Van Halen.
Adam Sandler is a legit musician
🇺🇸 The MIGHTY Van Halen 🇺🇸
RIP ED , Randy , Jack Russell
Indeed 😊
Rogan couldn’t name a deep cut if his life depended on it. Eddie was the band.
When DLR is talking I usually have no idea what he’s talking about. 🤷♂️
Van Halen Wisconsin 1984 bootleg on TH-cam is great.
1982 Baltimore Md
DLR is absolutely without a doubt best front man to ever live!
Whatever the band Van Halen became, it was Dave's vision and drive that got it off of the ground.
Even though Eddie wrote and arranged most all of the music.
@@jimgodofbiscuitsWrong. Roth didn't just write the lyrics. He wrote the vocal melodies as well, which is as much a part of the music as anything else. And it was Dave and Templeman who took Ed's riffs and parts and arranged them into entire, coherent songs. There's a reason DLR era VH sounds nothing like Van Hagar... or anything else.
@@flalawdog71 If you want to go by an opinion from thegearpage or something like that but Eddie didn't just write riffs, he came up with the melodies as well in most cases. Not only was he a genius lead guitarist in so many ways and reasons but atomic precision rhythm player and music composer. Don't get me wrong Dave was great with the lyrics and surely they collaborated on melodies but Dave was not the most melodic of singers. But he was perfect for VH in his vaudevillian and quasi doo-wop kind of way. Except for '78 when I saw them open for Black Sabbath VH shows I saw it seemed Dave had been drinking and a lot of skipping half a measure then trying to cram everything into the rest. It was still really good and he was a hell of a front man.
With Sammy Eddie was moving in a different direction melodically and the first album
with Sammy most of the songs on that first album were already fully formed before he came on board. He came in and scatted along and then wrote lyrics. This was directly from Sammy during a Stern interview. Sammy didn't even realize the musical construction of Eddie's solos and as he said he thought Ed was just beating the shit out of his guitar until Satch explained what Eddie was doing. I find that amusing considering Sammy plays guitar. 🤷♂️
It was Eddie's vision
@flalawdog71 yep, DLR knew Eddie had the guitar riffs to create songs. He did help arrange them to write lyrics.
Eddie was only guitarists in history that was bigger than the lead singer.
Leslie West was bigger than Felix P in ‘Mountain’.
The older I get, the more I realize David Lee Roth might very well be the greatest frontman in the history of rock and one the smartest if not the smartest of all rockstars.
One could possibly say that he arguably rivals Mick Jagger
@@carygarland7023 Abolutely, theses two are very, very specials.
Freddie Mercury is in the top 3 list as well
Roth is super high IQ. The smartest dudes in rock history however is Tom Scholz and Brian May.
I’m going to give Tom the edge because his inventions and production of Boston’s first album are uncanny raw intelligence and talent.
I want some of the SHIT they're smokin... They think Eddie's guitar playing is second fiddle to Dave's voice??? 🤣
Funny how famous rock band members could wear whatever they wanted, and it was so cool. I tried wearing the EVH bandana around the neck thing in high school for a minute. I was laughed at. I'm still scarred.
70-84 David Lee Roth Era is bombproof….
First four albums, they were hungry & ate up the music world. I saw them in 1981, Fair Warning tour. 12 years old, front row.
No one could touch them from 78-84
Saw them just before the broke big. Some small auditorium in Pasadena. Everyone one there knew they were witnessing some thing BIG.
❤Eddie!❤
Top Jimmy ... Hes the king 👑
Roth named the band Van Halen, in the early days club owners would come up to Dave not knowing his name and think his name was Van .
Bill Gazzari 👍👍
Actually, Dave was jealous of the attention Eddie got... well known fact to die hard VH fans
The day you start listening to Van Halen is the day you start living. Nothing depressing about any of their songs.
LSD= Lead Singers Disease just the way Rock n Roll universe works like it or not. Miss you Ed you are my generations Mozart. Love you Dave and Sam. Keep rocking from the coast of North Carolina.
David Lee Roth--the best frontman of all time
You can tell that Sandler doesn't like being there.
I’m picking up those vibes too.
U kidding 😮?
You may be right, but this seems to be his vibe a lot; he is sort of detached and almost shy. That could also mean that he doesn't want to be all the other places that I've seen him act that way, but I always took it for kind of a shy politeness.
Eddie IS Van Halen! Dave had his part. But the band was named Van Halen for a reason!
yea, cause Dave named it Vab Halen
Van Halen IS a lot of things. Ed may be the largest slice of the VH pie, but Dave was the second biggest slice of the pie, and their slices accounted for about 80% of that pie. It might have been 50% Ed/30% Dave, or maybe 45% Ed/35% Dave; but those were about the proportions. That's why, to this day, you've still got guys like Sandler & Rogan reminiscing and talking so much about Dave. Sammy did fine, but when people talk about Van Hagar, they don't sit around and wax nostalgic about what a force of nature Sammy was as a frontman. They may say he was a better singer than Dave, and try to make the false claim that his albums outsold Dave's since they charted better (that's not how sales are measured); but nobody's ever had a conversation about Hagar like this one. Michael Anthony should get at least 10% of the pie for those background vocals that gave the band its hard rock-meets-Beach Boys appeal. Ted Templeman, Don Landee & Al Van Halen would account for the last 10%. I know people will probably dispute my giving Al so little credit, but other than the fact that he's Ed's brother and co-founded the band, he's the least distinguishable and most replaceable member. Don't believe me? It was just revealed in the last year or so that Al played almost no drums on the Cherone VH album; but in the 25+ years since that album was released, nobody ever questioned who was drumming on that album; not until the producer finally spilled the beans.
Ain't talking about luv
Didn't matter who sang,was always Eddie!!!!
Besides,I was more partial to Sammy anyways,lol
Roth is an incredible entertainer…but EDDIE was the focus really of VH…Roth was needed though and his songwriting, mostly lyrics are underrated. His uncle MANNY ROTH owned the Cafe Wha? In Greenwich Village NYC., big folk club in early 60’s..Dylan started there among other clubs.
It was Dave who got the band to change its name to Van Halen instead of Mammoth in the late 70s. Back then, Dave knew how to sell and what to sell!!
Gotta love 'The Sand Man'! Much respect.
Roth has lived the most fulfilling life. So many hobbies. So expansive.
Adam Sandler has always been a supporter of Van Halen that there's many references in his movies!
"Take off my Van Halen Tshirt or your'e going to break up the band"-- Adam Sandler....LOL... WEDDING SINGER!
If Van Halen had not broken up in 1985 they would have been even BIGGER, can you imagine? Even a reunion tour in 1996 would have been huge.
Didn’t they have more #1 singles with Sammy?
You really think that they would've had 4 #1 albums in a row (Sammy era) and all those hits? I don't think so. Ed was going in a different direction musically. Dave wasn't the guy to do it, but Sammy was.
@@romowasbetterthanaikman3932 albums...see my comment.
@@Ltw7407 Jump was a number two album, so they were capable. And being a big band doesn't mean just album sales anyways.
@romowasbetterthanaikman3932 it's not all about #1 singles, lol. Look at Metallica.
I had the Van Halen logo on my text book.
Nobody could touch Van Halen. And in 1984, you could actually turn on MTV and catch Jump, Hot for Teacher, and Panama at any given moment and see the maestro, Eddie Van Halen prove to the world that he was the greatest living guitar player who ever graced the planet Earth alongside Roth as the main event attraction and greatest ROck frontmen of them all. Such raw talent never to be repeated.
Louie’s first set on Carson was hilarious. Still holds up. 😂❤️🙏🏻
Actually, it was DLR who began to become jealous of all the attention that Ed was getting as a guitar player and even hated the fact he married a famous actress
Yes. According to Edward in a 1986 interview with Steve Rosen Ed said - 'Once I overheard him talking about me when he thought I couldn't overhear him & I heard Dave say -'That f*****g little prick,,,not only is he winning all the best guitarist awards in the magazines but he's the first one of us to marry a movie star' .....& he was cruel to Valerie too. Making sexual jokes to embarrass her in interviews like raising the issue of Ed's 'libido' & saying -'Valerie's looking TIRED on TV these days'....& also at GIGS when women would throw their bras up on stage DLR would announce - 'Did you bring this from home Edward ? ... Its too big to be Valerie's' 🙄
Now take off my Van Halen shirt before you jinxed them and they brake up,😊😊
Wedding singer 😂
@@chops4986 just saw it yesterday,
Edward needed Roth?! Nah man. You've 100% got that backwards.
Top dave lee Roth quote from the 80s I used to have a drug problem now I can afford it
Epic first album
Eddie was VH. What happened when Roth left the band? Roth's solo career was short-lived. However, the total band together was magic, with each playing their role. SMH egos.
Ummm... I guess the #1 hits after don't count.
Van Halen certainly didn't crash and burn with Sammy dude. Number 1 albums
@@thebourg No David Lee Roth's solo career crashed and burned. VH kept on rolling.
@@thebourgthey certainly did with Gary Cherone😂😂😂😂
Crashed and burned is a little extreme he had 4 songs and the top 20 and 2 of them made it to the top 10 (California girls #3 and Just like Paradise #6) a lot of solo artists would love to have that as their career.
Eddie was mesmerizing on guitar and with his song writing and to me was what made VH great. Dave was the marketing arm of the band and it really worked. I remember hearing an interview back in the 1980s where, either Al or Mike, said it was 2:00 a.m. and Dave was going crazy at a backstage party MC'ing a strip show. Al or Mike said they wanted to get some sleep and left. And when they woke up at 6:00 a.m. they turned on the radio and Dave was being interviewed at a college radio station and it was live. He had never slept (I'm sure he had a little help from "Krel"). I also remember on a radio interview some outraged feminist called up and asked him why his lyrics were so sexist and if he viewed women as objects. And he said something like "Well darling, I'm very much in favor of women's liberation. I've tried to liberate as many as possible" or something like that. He made you laugh.
Rabid Lee Froth was infamous for his anti feminist put downs (like being asked -‘what do you think of the Women’s movement’ ? …A - ‘BEST FROM THE WAIST DOWN’ )….But Edward was the creative driving force who changed the instrument for millions. And wrote great music. And Ed , Alex and Mike were the band. And Froth drove them all nuts because ‘tonight was about HIM….EVERY night ‘ 🙄. (Paul)
Jo no
Van Halen is/was my band.
I saw the last show at the Hollywood Bowl. I knew it was their last.
Eddie was the best. ❤
They were the Led Zeppelin of 80s
DLR was undoubtedly the MAN in the 80s
David Lee Roth used to make the girlfriend joke all the time in concert.
Dave never had a problem with someone jumping on stage to attack…..
Had the vh logo in magic marker on my denim jacket in high school replaced it with an acrylic painting of Maidens Killers cover
You wanna see Van Halen at there best?! Watch US Festival 83. I was there.
Eddie was 1 of 1. Hes one of the all time greatest guitarist of all time. No question
"Once apon a time in a Galaxy far, far away" ...
In 1977 if Mr. Froth had got the spandex on in time he would been onto Princess Leia with his LIGHT SABER 🤔🤨
Dave didn’t want Eddie to play keyboards and Sandler gives credit to Dave for Jump? Wow! Dave was happy with covers ( Diver Down, Crazy from the heat)
These guys didnt even see them at the Starwood puhleeeeeez
They were huge from 91-95 also!
Huge with the AM radio mass audience? Yes, like many, many other bands. With Roth they were a cultural phenomenon. That's what Joe and Sandler are talking about. You don't get it, cause you missed it
So cool he can sit back and chill with Sandler like he's not a huge movie star...
david is a wise man he once said they are three rings in a marriage the first ring is the engagement ring then the second ring is wedding ring and the third ring is the suffer ring
Van Halen: 1978 - 1984. RIP. Could have been the next Rolling Stones. Blew it. Everything afterwards was nothing. Nothing.
The magic was in the original VH. like em hate em but they were their best with Diamond Dave.
People came to see Roth and stayed to hear Eddie.
God bless EVH!!!!
#1 guy Eddie
And Joe is the queen.
Alex's Book is coming out in October. It would be AWESOME if he came on Joe Rogan.
Eddie was more equal to David than most bands are with their lead singers.
They were the zep of the 80s
Ridiculous. No comparison. They couldn't clean Zep's shoes.
Enter Sandman was written about Sandler
Many factors went into Van Halen becoming what they were. It was a combination of all kinds of genius. Aside from David Lee Roth's melodies (aka songwriting), which was crucial, DLR was clearly also the responsible guy in the group who was the businessman. In every band there's one member who does all the thinking and taking care of sh.. Watch old interviews -- yes, Dave seems more clownish, but he was also the smart one. The other guys were space cadets. Had they never met David Lee Roth, good chance we'd have never heard of Van Halen, or maybe EVH would be some avant garde rock-fusion guitarist who'd be respected only in a small community of musician nerds.
Rush were the Kings
Besides Aerosmith, who I’ve seen around 50 times, the next band I’ve seen the most is VH. Hagar is my guy. But I saw that tour in 2002 with Sam and David. I was at the very first show at a place called Blossom in Ohio. And by 2002 I’m thinking well David is old he won’t be doing kicks and all that. That dude put on a show like 70s VH. Kicks and splits and all. I couldn’t believe it 😂
Joe: Hey Adam, did you catch my new Netflix special, Burn the Boats?
Adam: - long pause - ... Hey man, remember how awesome Van Halen were?
Let me put it like this, as far as the band leader.
When I see VH, I think Van Halen.
When I see DLR, I think De La Riva!
🎵David lee roth likes the menorah 🎵
It was daves idea to name the band van halen
The lady that dropped him off is his mother.
Could’ve been his sister.
All true. Awesome
Eddie is Van Halen!