I know the 1st of PF is bad, but we have an official confirmation from hoyo that future PF will insta spawn mobs, meaning it's ALWAYS 5 enemies on field
and the new herta SU is kinda hinting at the future PF because some elites/boss keeps spawning 5 enemies every time you kill a mob, + the next moc will have 5 enemies as well. idk maybe this is also hoyo hinting at erudition becoming meta along with summons in the future (like how fua is with hunt this current 2.x patch)
@@ghost_bulr142yeah this is a thing with himeko specifically and I HATE that it’s there. Auntie has 3 stacks of her charge let her throw the pizza slicer dang it
Already got her in the first 30 minutes of her release, and absolutely no regrets, already decided that I'm gonna get her ever since her drip marketing, i already have Boothill and Firefly too, i just love the break meta. Also goddamn, i probably should have seen it coming after Boothill, but i still didn't expect her "ninja" persona to actually have a depressing backstory behind it, i guess galaxy rangers always look happy on the outside only for us to find out they have depressing backstories...... And they're a break character of course
I really like this video, it's the kind of video I wish more content creators made around Rappa. It's a fantastic evaluation of a character's floor and ceilings. Thank you for the content! I would love to see this with Acheron \ Aventurine \ DHIL since they are this patch's banners!
I think these types of videos are really helpful in putting some perspective on a characters potential value. So many times content creators either hype up a character because they are new and shiny and endgame content revolves around them so it feels like performance is skewed. I really appreciate you showcasing her clear strengths and value for someone’s acc (esp if you don’t have break characters) but at the same time being realistic about her weaknesses too. HSR vids are in a real weird space sometimes with unit reviews. I know it’s clickbait for a lot of CCs to say wild shit to get people to watch so I actually appreciate the objectivity.
@SetTheSeasAblaze its not about that, she is in fact not getting bricked but she has been pushed like crazy, for fuck's sake, she's one of the only characters that did not need a single buff and instead she got Lingsha, we got the choir in MoC on 3 out of the 4 most recent rotations and the current one further buffed her with exo toughness, DU is practically Firefly's playground, this break PF practically fucked everybody else and favored her in insane levels and if AS was not already shilling break characters, we're getting Choir there next rotarion. Its insane how much Hoyo pushes Firefly, follow up also gets a lot of attention but Firefly is just another level of favoritism. Fucking hell even her ornament set was made to not wrok with any other break character
@@LucasGomes-ng2go not really FF doesn't get much benefit from Exo toughness compared to Boothill and Rappa but for the other things you mentioned - yeah, agree with you on that.
Different flavors of break, so you get to choose what you like. Single target BIG BONK BOOTSHILL Blast BIG BONK Fireflop or 5 target BIG BONK Skippa Break alone is the honored one 🗣️💯 As for me, my plan is to pick one and hyperinvest in them, cuz my other team is FuA (also hyper invested in).
For the second boss in shadow, the play should’ve been to destroy the purple flower rather than the yellow? That would’ve gotten Mr. Pokke to 3.8k points I’m sure! Either way, she did so well on that stage! Overall, Rappa does the best when enemies have imaginary weakness and does ok when there isn’t - and I think that’s perfectly fine! After all when doing MoC, Shadow and Fiction, realistically you would make a team that would suit best to beat either stage 1 or stage 2 and you’d want to allocate Rappa to where she would obliterate the enemies.
I think Acheron, Boothill, Firefly and Feixao just spoiled us since all of them can still do a lot of damage even when they don't match the weakness, but i pulled Rappa i love her, she's honestly so fun in imaginary weak fights
@@SmashTheAdam I agree with you 100%! Even though those specific characters can handle any stage with ease, this doesn’t mean other DPS characters, both current and future, lack value or playability! Rappa is a lot of fun to use and can do just as well as the “meta” units when it’s the right opportunity :)
@@shiternet4045 Nah, Firefly's issue. Actually, just get Fugue(my dream says she is good for a break, obviously) and Lingsha and two break teams are done xd. One will be without Ruan Mei, but you know Pela has always been here.
Always pull characters you like and forget meta. Meta will always power creep itself. Loved characters will make you happy for longer than 2 seconds. And everything can be beaten with patience...
Rappa is only good as DPS for PF Firefly can actually support Himeko/Lingsha by implanting fire weakness, as well as be the main dps Their pull value is simply not the same
@@tr1stonn ya she isn't not not even close, not only do these buffs help her more then BH and FF ( the ET ) but the fact that all the bosses this round has a ton of mobs and Hoolay even summons more so we haven't seen her in a ture low opponent fight. As for raw damage at full buff she can hit harder but that's just for 1 attack after that she needs breaks to re stack so like I said above if it's a low Mob fight and a ST boss by themselves her potential suffers. As for AS and PF well for AS there's 2 fights she's great in and even so Acheron and FF can get similar clears on said fights and in PF its on hold with the rework for now but that being said Acheron and JQ, And FF + Lingsha have gotten 40K no prb so being amazing in PF for Rappa isn't that impressive.
That's my plan too, got her with lc with my funds from previous patches and now I'm using the whole bunch of jades we're getting from new simulated universe plus events for Fugue Already collected 35 pulls in just like two days, hsr really spoils us so I don't feel the need to be too greedy with my jades
@@Palikawii I saved up like 150 warps but I lost both my 50/50 and 75/25 lol, I should still have enough to get s1 but e1 fugue might be unreachable for me.
@@NaturalCloud man, best of luck to you tho! I'm not the type to get multiples of characters (unless it's one I rlly like like Boothill, only have him e1s1 tho) and I only pull lc if the character really needs it, so I guess that's why I always feel like I have a lot of pulls remaining/I never completely run out I feel the pain though, tried to get Lingsha for Rappa but I lost the 50/50...I got a guaranteed Rappa after though so I wasn't too upset
I keep seeing people claiming that rappa and FF benefit equally from exo toughness...that's objectively cap. FF literally benefits the least out of all break units in the game from exo toughness. Which one gets a stacking break multiplier from breaking enemy units? (A bigger multiplier when fullly stacked than even Boothill at 500%)...and energy refunded when anyone is broken including in their install making them ult over and over again (which isn't normal) ? Which one is allowed to do dmg independently from HMC and ruan mei because of that very same stacking multiplier? Let's actually be a bit objective here. i get that having rappa be downplayed is annoying and lame af but let's not just lie for fun in retaliation. Boothill gets more value than FF, and so does rappa due to exo toughness' existence...cause they directly benefit from the actual instance of breaking more than FF. If exo toughness doesn't exist...rappa loses more than half her dmg potential in MOC on avg...but...we know what's coming...and rappa absolutely benefits more from it objectively speaking. FF is still more universal and easier to run into literally any content and her LC situation is much better than rappa which is unfortunate. Rappa LC isn't allat in terms of actual dmg per screenshot but...the av advance and energy are night n day from an f2p LC in terms of overall performance. FF isn't mid...and rappa is absolutely NOT mid either. But there are certain trade offs for each one for sure. But u rly can't go wrong with either. Or u can be a hating loser and keep calling either or both "mid"...whatever gets u going...
i dislike other break 2.0 dps except rappa so i try to get rappa. having doubts about getting the archetype at the end of its lifespan with 3.0 maybe releasing another archetype meta comp. but shes cool
@gert2189 might wanna try again budd...reading is hard, I know. I'm guessing u stopped at " I keep..."No? I'll sum it for u since it's clearly too hard...I have both...I like both...rappa more in gameplay actually...however... U know wut, it don't matter...If u somehow all u get from allat is that "I love FF" then ur clearly just bored...I'm good off that.
I dont know how true this is anymore, but back when ratio topaz was popular, a huge talking point was that fire + imaginary was a combination that could hit every elite. Im pretty sure its just aventurine who doesnt have it.
The talking point was that fire and imaginary are almost never on the same enemy making them a terrible dual dps comp. There are more enemies with both now though.
I had a "dream" that there's an upcoming unit that inflicts Exo Toughness on enemies, and I had another dream that there's going to be multiple rows of enemies - making Erudition units more valuable... 😇
Rappa is pretty solid in this MoC, but so is a certain Fire break DPS... I was able to almost 0 cycle first try with my E0S0 Firefly, and my team isn't even built with 0 cycling in mind. Ruan Mei is 140+ Spd and doesn't go first. HMC has less Spd than Firefly also. Firefly always goes first and I'm losing action value. I could easily 0 cycle with the tiniest bit of relic tuning. I don't even think an E0S0 Rappa can 0 cycle this MoC. I think you need the lightcone.
Pulled her because of her animations and sound effects, her performance shattered my expectations. The only problem i see is that there might be less imaginary weakness and more imaginary res enemies in the future.
With fuge, lingsha and Gallagher all being tailored to break, i think fire at least for a time is just going to be heavily related to break specifically, they can enable rappa just fine by breaking themselves and by extension virtually any other break dps of any other element
So I ran the same AS as Poke with FF E0S0/HMC E2+Coggers/Ruan Mei E0S0/Ghallachad E6+Multiplication...this team got 3200. If I had E6 HMC I can swap the LC on Ruan Mei to HMC, I get a big chunk of extra damage, and I likely score closer to what my E0S0 Fei originally did which was around 3531 (her team has improved). FF is of course also enjoying the break centric buffs in MOC.
Legit if you like FF pull her and if you like Rappa then pull her. I have E0S0 FF, and E0S1 Boothill, and I still want Rappa because I like her animations. At E0S0, or even S1, FF and Rappa perform similarly enough - they even want the same team and artifacts for rn. Either way, when the break meta eventually gets treated like DOT and hypercarry teams all of the break units will fall off. You can argue that because of weakness implements on FF and Boothill can bruteforce themselves into more content but that's like arguing that Seela or Acheron can too (they both can mind you). To me the best break dps is Boothill because he is more flexible team comp-wise (from solo to subdps), performed well even in meta's not favored towards him, and if you vertically invest/whale at E6 he becomes a destruction unit. A more flexible unit in the long term usually ends up aging better since as the meta changes/shifts those units usually can find a use somewhere or can come back to being useful. But saying Rappa is mid because she needs to meet certain conditions is like saying FF is the best because she meets those conditions because the meta is still favored towards her - it's dumb. Overall pull Ruin Mei or Lingsha and vertically invest in your supports as they come out.
Did Lingsha even contribute that much in the first AS? I feel like running Huohuo would work better for both energy regen and an extra bit of on-element break.
Remember Silver Wolf, i was like why is no one talking about Silver wolf who can implant the imaginary weakness, i feel like people forgot Silver Wolf exists, Silver Wolf mains know what i mean
@@yanagishuji1820 it may become the best team, sure, but at the same time it doesn't mean you'd really "want" to pull her. she can be a good pull to cover multitarget content if you only have bootyhill as your break dps, but if you already have ff built (and i assume most people running break team have her rather than bootyhill), imo it's still better to skip her. if she really turns out to be the best break dps released up to that point, then great, you'd pick her up on a rerun, and i bet firefly will have no problems clearing until then. on the other hand, if doomposters are right and she'll indeed turn out to be "skippa", as in not a big enough upgrade over ff overall or there's a better break dps in 3.x, you'd save yourself some jades for better units. it's a win-win situation. so personally, i would've pulled for her right now only if i liked her as a character (at which point her being good or bad becomes irrelevant). not to mention skipping her right now would allow you to see other 3.x dps units, which may or may not be the same to current dps units what acheron was to 1.x dps units - i.e. make them far less relevant, and as a result, make investing into them feel like a waste.
@@Leo-np7sfand if that happend, well thats why you have multiple teams 😂 just use someone else in just that off element encounter. Problem solved, right?
This is more about comparing her performance against other dps characters rather than her personal performance. Take the top 3 dps characters right now. Feixiao, Firefly, and Acheron. U can put them on element, off element, and enemies that are resistant to their element. They perform exceedingly well no matter what. No matter what side u put them on. So for comparison sake it matters. Consensus she is a strong unit, but not on the lvl of the top 3. Waiting for later MoC's for a final judgements. Rappa struggles breaking off element against boss and elites, but can be supplemented by another unit. She also needs a consistent supply of enemies to break to keep her ult up consistently and maintain her stacks to do a lot of dmg. When she attacks without her stacks her dmg takes a huge dip. Which is why I want to see her performance in later MoC when there are not a lot of enemies to break
@@brianmoore5366 Throughout the entirety of hsr history, no character ever exist where people tell them to be off TWO element to be good and it just reeks of desperate attempt to make rappa look bad. Do note that since Rappa is very sp positive, she can afford to have a team WITH Boothill. Whats next? people gonna tell her to be off three element? This just goes on and on and on. I can agree when it comes to brute forcing, she may not be as good but brute forcing is simply a matter of performance floor. Its only one aspect. You also need to look at the ceiling. What Rappa can achieve when everything favors her. To that, I say she's better than Acheron and Firefly. Firefly is still the only unit out of the top, that still can't 1 cost 0 cycle btw, let that sink in. And again, you want to see her performance when there's not a lot of enemies to break? Thats just setting her up for failure. An Erudition unit not being as good at single target as hunt/destruction, insane.If you gonna bring up firefly is better for being good at st and aoe, its back to the ceiling and floor point I mentioned. That simply means shes a jack of all trade, master of none. Firefly is not beating Boothill in ST and shes not beating rappa in AOE and thats fair. Its meant to be like that. Doesnt mean one unit is worse than the other. I'm sure I gonna get attacked by opportunity cost argument here, where you gonna mention that you can just spend 10k jades on firefly and clear all content instead of needing to invest into 2 units. I dont think i can argue further if thats what you gonna go about. I just care more about the ceiling than the floor. Also, obligatory Acheron fell off.
All these new shiny pokemons just waiting to be Jingliu-ed. Make a pool of the ones you're considering to pull and then pick one you like the most, invest high quality relics in it, pull it's BiS support.
to sum up : play her on element to have better result (but you are supposed to do it with every new unit since 1.0 right? Back in the day elementail imprint didnt exist...) and with Exo toughness, she will be better (bu ....like FF and Boothil basically?) All in all, she is a new toy to approach Super Break meta, so its alright to start with her if you are new to the game (or even if you are old to the game, you know the Myoho drill now)
I'm kind of surprised you decided to use HMC even when you did your cm video CN Bros that HMC is not good in this team when it's off element. I think you would have had a much better run if you used hunt March shifu Ruan Mei for faster breaking
In epic seven, theyre already releasing counters that disable counter attacks from the enemy team 😭😭 whats to say they also do that for FUA teams in hsr in the future
imo e2s1 is too high of a requirement, even e1s0 (or arguably even e1) fly is enough to skip rappa unless you really like her, because if you already invested in fly, you don't really need a second break dps, so it's better off wait for rappa rerun (to see if she really pops off with new supports/in new content, or to see how good 3.x dps units will be in comparison). she's viable if you have boothill though, to cover multitarget content.
I totally understand using the best in slot team for these very unfavourable situations for rappa. But isn’t the whole point of end game to adapt to the situation? For example in pure fiction nobody except rappa can break in that fight and it’s a break oriented team. It’s just not viable that way, so wouldn’t it be better to forego harmony MC for someone who matches the element that can do good toughness dmg? I’m sure rappa still clears the mobs with ease as breaking the enemy is way more important for her than a bunch more break effect. Just my opinion though. Well anyways it’s gonna be a rare thing to force teams to face these bad situations anyways.
She's suffers from what Crit Based Erudition characters suffered back in 1.x. And that is if you have the "Destruction" (Jingliu) character or the "Hunt"(Seele) character version already, you just don't need her. If you have Boothill, you don't need Rappa. If you have Firefly, you definitely don't need Rappa. "What about Exo-Toughness?" Why are people acting like Exo Toughness will only benefit Rappa? They're 100% gonna benefit Boothill and Firefly too lmfao. That said, like yeah she's gonna do work. Yeah she's gonna get fast clears. But from a meta standpoint, do you *really* wanna pull for a DPS character a patch or 2 away from 3.0?
Thats the point, meta never gamble with future potential. Who knows summon is just an archetype addition rsther than being a complete meta? Or even, if it is indeed meta, what archetype to be used in the other side? Other archetypes is as good to be used there, or it's just whatever?
rappa lingsha is not relatable because they were back to back banners right not to mention right after fei. f2ps either have to had saved or picked between the two
its funny because she gets comparde to units who can either implant weaknesses or ignore weaknesses, so obv. because she herself cant do that she isnt gonna peform off element like the other characters, remember before acheron, feixiao and firefly when you actually had to use the units with the right element and couldnt just brute force everything, haha good times, i think (or rather hope) that 3.x will bring this back and we wont get only characters that can ignore or implant weaknesses, because right now its really just brainrot use either acheron, feixiao, firefly or boothill against anything and everything and its becoming lame
imo rappa is what boothill and firefly should've been. A balanced super break dps. Ppl are doomppsting her bc she isn't performing like boothill or firefly but in reality shes just balanced and that's it. firefly and boothill are just setting unrealistic standards.
The first team comp just seems awful, why not at least slot in Herta or some other unit that can contribute to breaking at all? He would have probably been better off doing crit lingsha vs spamming a bunch of HMC/Lingsha skills against full toughness bar enemies with no img/fire weakness.
I didn't expect that team to perform at all tbh, you are right, bringing subdps on element to replace HMC is the better play here But atleast we know her worst team cans till do 27k lol
Fully agreed. Feels just as biased as playing her against choir, just the other way around. At least like... try to put her with a useful team. Pela or Herta or something... hell even Tingyun or Bronya for more ult uptime would have probably been better than HMC.
The thing is they complete erased ice weakness from enemies in the current meta enemies except aventurine Idk if 3.0 comes imaginary or fire will be relevant or not
You know who has been performing easy 0 cycles since their release like 3 patches ago? BOOTHILL, THE GREATEST BREAK UNITE OF ALL TIME, FIREWHO? WHOPPA? Who needs superbreak when you deal 1 MILLION DAMAGE ANYWAYS. HAIL BOOTHILL
@@Ajax704 idk never tried without ruan mei but if you dont have ruan mei fugue IS coming soon and she will bé similair or stronger also you Can use pela or asta but it will bé a bit weaker
Less than a year ago, Silver Wolf was considered absolutely broken because she could weakness implant Today, Rappa is considered bad because she can’t weakness implant Crazy how the game has evolved this quickly
every new dps performance on endgame modes must always be taken with a heavy grain of salt since its tailored for them
PULL
2 months later, endgame mode has Break resist + counter to followup or sum shet lol
@@LunarEdge7counter to follow-up?, as in enemies that counter you every time you attack?, cause Aventurine would love that
@SmashTheAdam it would just boost Yunli and Clara, you take out Ratio and Feixiao and slot them on the same comp, it's still follow up lmao
@@LunarEdge7blud acheron still works without issue and u think there gonna be break counter and fua counter 😂
I know the 1st of PF is bad, but we have an official confirmation from hoyo that future PF will insta spawn mobs, meaning it's ALWAYS 5 enemies on field
and the new herta SU is kinda hinting at the future PF because some elites/boss keeps spawning 5 enemies every time you kill a mob, + the next moc will have 5 enemies as well. idk maybe this is also hoyo hinting at erudition becoming meta along with summons in the future (like how fua is with hunt this current 2.x patch)
Finally, i really have trouble try to 40k with himeko and herta cuz those mob weren't spawn while my team end turn but still have fua
Thank God, Aventurine is tired of hitting the last guy and it having two atom's width of health left 🙏
THANK GOD I always fail to get even 30k bc theres always 2 mobs left when I have eurudition characters so it takes away a cycle
@@ghost_bulr142yeah this is a thing with himeko specifically and I HATE that it’s there. Auntie has 3 stacks of her charge let her throw the pizza slicer dang it
Already got her in the first 30 minutes of her release, and absolutely no regrets, already decided that I'm gonna get her ever since her drip marketing, i already have Boothill and Firefly too, i just love the break meta.
Also goddamn, i probably should have seen it coming after Boothill, but i still didn't expect her "ninja" persona to actually have a depressing backstory behind it, i guess galaxy rangers always look happy on the outside only for us to find out they have depressing backstories...... And they're a break character of course
i really wanted to get her i saved pulls since her drip marketing came out and had 75 and lost 50/50 to yanqing
@@tr1stonn hey you still have quite a while before her banner ends and she's guaranteed now so good luck, hope she comes early friend :)
ayyy daviddo pfp
also have you tried putting all 3 break dps'es in the same team? i lost firefly but will get her on rerun to try that
I really like this video, it's the kind of video I wish more content creators made around Rappa. It's a fantastic evaluation of a character's floor and ceilings. Thank you for the content!
I would love to see this with Acheron \ Aventurine \ DHIL since they are this patch's banners!
I think these types of videos are really helpful in putting some perspective on a characters potential value. So many times content creators either hype up a character because they are new and shiny and endgame content revolves around them so it feels like performance is skewed.
I really appreciate you showcasing her clear strengths and value for someone’s acc (esp if you don’t have break characters) but at the same time being realistic about her weaknesses too. HSR vids are in a real weird space sometimes with unit reviews. I know it’s clickbait for a lot of CCs to say wild shit to get people to watch so I actually appreciate the objectivity.
"Upselling rappa too much" Keep in mind that almost every single end game mode has been glazing firefly since her release
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i mean its also cause shes such an insane unit that there isnt rly any way to counter her besides weakness lock lol
"My only enemy has always been myself" moment @@SetTheSeasAblaze
@SetTheSeasAblaze its not about that, she is in fact not getting bricked but she has been pushed like crazy, for fuck's sake, she's one of the only characters that did not need a single buff and instead she got Lingsha, we got the choir in MoC on 3 out of the 4 most recent rotations and the current one further buffed her with exo toughness, DU is practically Firefly's playground, this break PF practically fucked everybody else and favored her in insane levels and if AS was not already shilling break characters, we're getting Choir there next rotarion. Its insane how much Hoyo pushes Firefly, follow up also gets a lot of attention but Firefly is just another level of favoritism. Fucking hell even her ornament set was made to not wrok with any other break character
@@LucasGomes-ng2go not really FF doesn't get much benefit from Exo toughness compared to Boothill and Rappa but for the other things you mentioned - yeah, agree with you on that.
Different flavors of break, so you get to choose what you like.
Single target BIG BONK BOOTSHILL
Blast BIG BONK Fireflop
or 5 target BIG BONK Skippa
Break alone is the honored one 🗣️💯
As for me, my plan is to pick one and hyperinvest in them, cuz my other team is FuA (also hyper invested in).
>BOOTSHILL
>Fireflop
>Skippa
NO MATTA WHACHU CHOOSE, YOU LOSE!
@@grigoryp.7366Aye Yo Kid it's Bootyhill
also 5 target BIG BONK -> Lingsha :3
when is bootleg coming? any news? i'm new to the game and saving up for a dps. i'm thinking of getting fireflop
The battle of the mids 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
For the second boss in shadow, the play should’ve been to destroy the purple flower rather than the yellow? That would’ve gotten Mr. Pokke to 3.8k points I’m sure!
Either way, she did so well on that stage!
Overall, Rappa does the best when enemies have imaginary weakness and does ok when there isn’t - and I think that’s perfectly fine! After all when doing MoC, Shadow and Fiction, realistically you would make a team that would suit best to beat either stage 1 or stage 2 and you’d want to allocate Rappa to where she would obliterate the enemies.
I think Acheron, Boothill, Firefly and Feixao just spoiled us since all of them can still do a lot of damage even when they don't match the weakness, but i pulled Rappa i love her, she's honestly so fun in imaginary weak fights
Imaginary or Fire,
@@SmashTheAdam I agree with you 100%! Even though those specific characters can handle any stage with ease, this doesn’t mean other DPS characters, both current and future, lack value or playability! Rappa is a lot of fun to use and can do just as well as the “meta” units when it’s the right opportunity :)
The issue is that rappa and firefly are directly competing for the same team, so you can't use them both on different sides.
@@shiternet4045 Nah, Firefly's issue. Actually, just get Fugue(my dream says she is good for a break, obviously) and Lingsha and two break teams are done xd. One will be without Ruan Mei, but you know Pela has always been here.
“Sees title”
“Presses even though I already own her E0S1”
e2S1 😭🙏
@@2FunkinEz omg congrats 🥂
@@SpicyFox-0 congrats to all rappa lovers
Pull Rappa because she is meta: ❌
Pull Rappa because she is cute: ✅
Pull Rappa because S H I K A: 🦌
Always pull characters you like and forget meta. Meta will always power creep itself. Loved characters will make you happy for longer than 2 seconds. And everything can be beaten with patience...
I feel like if u have firefly just simply don’t need rappa if u don’t have firefly rappa is a great pull simple as that
true, for those like me that have no break DPS Rappa is a great Pull, for everybody else it isn't, no need to over think it
@@LucasGomes-ng2goyea problem for me is i rather wait for ff and run with f2p lightcone if i get her now ill need the wep
she's better than firefly at single target too she's just a better pull
Rappa is only good as DPS for PF
Firefly can actually support Himeko/Lingsha by implanting fire weakness, as well as be the main dps
Their pull value is simply not the same
@@tr1stonn ya she isn't not not even close, not only do these buffs help her more then BH and FF ( the ET ) but the fact that all the bosses this round has a ton of mobs and Hoolay even summons more so we haven't seen her in a ture low opponent fight.
As for raw damage at full buff she can hit harder but that's just for 1 attack after that she needs breaks to re stack so like I said above if it's a low Mob fight and a ST boss by themselves her potential suffers.
As for AS and PF well for AS there's 2 fights she's great in and even so Acheron and FF can get similar clears on said fights and in PF its on hold with the rework for now but that being said Acheron and JQ, And FF + Lingsha have gotten 40K no prb so being amazing in PF for Rappa isn't that impressive.
Planning to get her before she’s gone, then save for Fugue at least E1S1
That's my plan too, trying to get her S1 right now. Then save for E0/E1 fugue.
That's my plan too, got her with lc with my funds from previous patches and now I'm using the whole bunch of jades we're getting from new simulated universe plus events for Fugue
Already collected 35 pulls in just like two days, hsr really spoils us so I don't feel the need to be too greedy with my jades
@@Palikawii I saved up like 150 warps but I lost both my 50/50 and 75/25 lol, I should still have enough to get s1 but e1 fugue might be unreachable for me.
@@NaturalCloud man, best of luck to you tho! I'm not the type to get multiples of characters (unless it's one I rlly like like Boothill, only have him e1s1 tho) and I only pull lc if the character really needs it, so I guess that's why I always feel like I have a lot of pulls remaining/I never completely run out
I feel the pain though, tried to get Lingsha for Rappa but I lost the 50/50...I got a guaranteed Rappa after though so I wasn't too upset
I keep seeing people claiming that rappa and FF benefit equally from exo toughness...that's objectively cap.
FF literally benefits the least out of all break units in the game from exo toughness.
Which one gets a stacking break multiplier from breaking enemy units? (A bigger multiplier when fullly stacked than even Boothill at 500%)...and energy refunded when anyone is broken including in their install making them ult over and over again (which isn't normal) ?
Which one is allowed to do dmg independently from HMC and ruan mei because of that very same stacking multiplier?
Let's actually be a bit objective here.
i get that having rappa be downplayed is annoying and lame af but let's not just lie for fun in retaliation.
Boothill gets more value than FF, and so does rappa due to exo toughness' existence...cause they directly benefit from the actual instance of breaking more than FF.
If exo toughness doesn't exist...rappa loses more than half her dmg potential in MOC on avg...but...we know what's coming...and rappa absolutely benefits more from it objectively speaking.
FF is still more universal and easier to run into literally any content and her LC situation is much better than rappa which is unfortunate. Rappa LC isn't allat in terms of actual dmg per screenshot but...the av advance and energy are night n day from an f2p LC in terms of overall performance.
FF isn't mid...and rappa is absolutely NOT mid either. But there are certain trade offs for each one for sure. But u rly can't go wrong with either.
Or u can be a hating loser and keep calling either or both "mid"...whatever gets u going...
Holy backreading 😬
i dislike other break 2.0 dps except rappa so i try to get rappa. having doubts about getting the archetype at the end of its lifespan with 3.0 maybe releasing another archetype meta comp. but shes cool
we get it u like firefly bro
@@aliounethiaw1443 don't read then duh.
@gert2189 might wanna try again budd...reading is hard, I know.
I'm guessing u stopped at " I keep..."No?
I'll sum it for u since it's clearly too hard...I have both...I like both...rappa more in gameplay actually...however...
U know wut, it don't matter...If u somehow all u get from allat is that "I love FF" then ur clearly just bored...I'm good off that.
I dont know how true this is anymore, but back when ratio topaz was popular, a huge talking point was that fire + imaginary was a combination that could hit every elite. Im pretty sure its just aventurine who doesnt have it.
The talking point was that fire and imaginary are almost never on the same enemy making them a terrible dual dps comp. There are more enemies with both now though.
final answer: boothill is peak
I had a "dream" that there's an upcoming unit that inflicts Exo Toughness on enemies, and I had another dream that there's going to be multiple rows of enemies - making Erudition units more valuable... 😇
Bro wtf, I had the same exact dream!!!
wtf same
I haven’t had this dream can someone send me a link abt this dream
@@GA4836_you can Google it and get some other ppl who have “animated” this collective dream ong lol
Tho bc it is a dream, it may change overtime fr
@@GA4836_ fugue leak*
Bro 'DIDNT' fall off , we happi
Dont know man my rappa is not doing damage though granted she is kinda built like a man with a guitar case who is blond .
Blud built her as a replacement for gepard instead of fireflop
Rappa is pretty solid in this MoC, but so is a certain Fire break DPS... I was able to almost 0 cycle first try with my E0S0 Firefly, and my team isn't even built with 0 cycling in mind. Ruan Mei is 140+ Spd and doesn't go first. HMC has less Spd than Firefly also. Firefly always goes first and I'm losing action value. I could easily 0 cycle with the tiniest bit of relic tuning. I don't even think an E0S0 Rappa can 0 cycle this MoC. I think you need the lightcone.
I just wanted to say, this comment gave me some joy. So much doomposting for Firefly of late.
I main her and I have rappa too. I LIVE FOR SUPERBREAK!
Did u use lingsha?
Or any other character eidolons etc?
What's ur fireflys break effect?
Personally I had to take atleast 1 cycle to clear,that's why
@@Abiud._.who tf is doomposting firefly lmao
@@dread7714Gacha smack lol
@@dread7714 I have seen a lot, calling her Fraudfly and stuff
Pulled her because of her animations and sound effects, her performance shattered my expectations. The only problem i see is that there might be less imaginary weakness and more imaginary res enemies in the future.
Thanks for the vid, I don't care if she isn't meta. I pull for her because I like her animation, story and personality
With fuge, lingsha and Gallagher all being tailored to break, i think fire at least for a time is just going to be heavily related to break specifically, they can enable rappa just fine by breaking themselves and by extension virtually any other break dps of any other element
better than smacks video, that man has ulterior motives 😂😂
smacked just wants to help ya'll to get off firefly's di... i mean needle😂
bro is single handedly carrying the 2.6 revenue
@@grigoryp.7366 lemme gobble it up in peace wtf
she did off element completly single target as an erudition character decently well ngl
So I ran the same AS as Poke with FF E0S0/HMC E2+Coggers/Ruan Mei E0S0/Ghallachad E6+Multiplication...this team got 3200. If I had E6 HMC I can swap the LC on Ruan Mei to HMC, I get a big chunk of extra damage, and I likely score closer to what my E0S0 Fei originally did which was around 3531 (her team has improved).
FF is of course also enjoying the break centric buffs in MOC.
Funnest video yet 😭😭 keep it up mr pokke
Boy I sure do hope a new unit comes out which can always have exo toughness applied that would be really helpful for the other 8 rappa players
Before I pull? Oh good sir, her and her signature light cone were secured on release!
Hi, I'm still new, should i pull rappa or acheron in next banner?
yo, banger vid
Rappa will really be excelling when PF gets updated
THAT LINGSHA SAVE 😆😆😆😆
i pulled rappa cuz of what fugue does as i realized rappa will likely age like fine wine
Legit if you like FF pull her and if you like Rappa then pull her. I have E0S0 FF, and E0S1 Boothill, and I still want Rappa because I like her animations. At E0S0, or even S1, FF and Rappa perform similarly enough - they even want the same team and artifacts for rn. Either way, when the break meta eventually gets treated like DOT and hypercarry teams all of the break units will fall off. You can argue that because of weakness implements on FF and Boothill can bruteforce themselves into more content but that's like arguing that Seela or Acheron can too (they both can mind you).
To me the best break dps is Boothill because he is more flexible team comp-wise (from solo to subdps), performed well even in meta's not favored towards him, and if you vertically invest/whale at E6 he becomes a destruction unit. A more flexible unit in the long term usually ends up aging better since as the meta changes/shifts those units usually can find a use somewhere or can come back to being useful. But saying Rappa is mid because she needs to meet certain conditions is like saying FF is the best because she meets those conditions because the meta is still favored towards her - it's dumb.
Overall pull Ruin Mei or Lingsha and vertically invest in your supports as they come out.
What are Firefly's conditions, though? The only enemies she struggles (released thus far) are Sam and Aventurine, in my experience.
Did Lingsha even contribute that much in the first AS? I feel like running Huohuo would work better for both energy regen and an extra bit of on-element break.
Bro yelled at me when I was just explaining why Chat wanted the ult buff
Ohh. Pokke. Will got the DMG Bonus buff on Phantalya fight. Not the Break one. Isk if was intentional
thinking about it, i don't have an imaginary dps, ice dps and quantum dps.. so i feel like getting rappa would definitely be great for me
You don't have Dr. Ratio?
you don´t need any of that anymore since most 2.x dps have weakness implant or break all element
Man, seeing that number go lower than 1500 at the first run was painful.
I want to pull her but can’t cuz next banners are Yomi/Aven so sad 😢
Even when you put Rappa on second node in PF, it is basically still Lingsha showcase lmao.
Pokke - "Oh my fucking god"
GOATED, need more of this shii
17:16 this was my reaction when firefly failed me in PF
So with Ruan Mei with Eidolons and with Linghsa with Eidolons, both with LC too she still has mid performances, got it
Remember Silver Wolf, i was like why is no one talking about Silver wolf who can implant the imaginary weakness, i feel like people forgot Silver Wolf exists, Silver Wolf mains know what i mean
Already pulled. Lost.
ALL IN FOR TINGYUN LUNAE
based on leaks you gonna want to pull rappa
Why is that? Are they going to release bosses that she can hard counter? Haven’t kept up with the leaks so I’m genuinely curious
@@_Raygion_ rappa+ruan mei+lingsha+ new unit gonna be BiS for break team. There will be no more break focused character released in year or so.
@@yanagishuji1820 it may become the best team, sure, but at the same time it doesn't mean you'd really "want" to pull her. she can be a good pull to cover multitarget content if you only have bootyhill as your break dps, but if you already have ff built (and i assume most people running break team have her rather than bootyhill), imo it's still better to skip her. if she really turns out to be the best break dps released up to that point, then great, you'd pick her up on a rerun, and i bet firefly will have no problems clearing until then. on the other hand, if doomposters are right and she'll indeed turn out to be "skippa", as in not a big enough upgrade over ff overall or there's a better break dps in 3.x, you'd save yourself some jades for better units. it's a win-win situation. so personally, i would've pulled for her right now only if i liked her as a character (at which point her being good or bad becomes irrelevant).
not to mention skipping her right now would allow you to see other 3.x dps units, which may or may not be the same to current dps units what acheron was to 1.x dps units - i.e. make them far less relevant, and as a result, make investing into them feel like a waste.
according to leakers, 2.0 dps gonna be powercrept anyways, if you want future proof, pull for harmony or support unit@@grigoryp.7366
@@yanagishuji1820 no break units for a whole year? damn super break gonna get powercrept hard
Gacha smack been glazing her like CRAZZZZZYYYYYY bro
Too late I already got small ice swordsman
damn..that thumbnail , i thought it gameranx XDD
so rappa showcase now need to be without img AND fire weakness to be consider good? Might as well put a no lc/relic requirement too.
People forget you need 2 teams for endgame, it's unlikely that there will be no img or fire weak enemies on both sides
@@Leo-np7sfand if that happend, well thats why you have multiple teams 😂 just use someone else in just that off element encounter. Problem solved, right?
This is more about comparing her performance against other dps characters rather than her personal performance. Take the top 3 dps characters right now. Feixiao, Firefly, and Acheron. U can put them on element, off element, and enemies that are resistant to their element. They perform exceedingly well no matter what. No matter what side u put them on. So for comparison sake it matters. Consensus she is a strong unit, but not on the lvl of the top 3. Waiting for later MoC's for a final judgements. Rappa struggles breaking off element against boss and elites, but can be supplemented by another unit. She also needs a consistent supply of enemies to break to keep her ult up consistently and maintain her stacks to do a lot of dmg. When she attacks without her stacks her dmg takes a huge dip. Which is why I want to see her performance in later MoC when there are not a lot of enemies to break
@@brianmoore5366 Throughout the entirety of hsr history, no character ever exist where people tell them to be off TWO element to be good and it just reeks of desperate attempt to make rappa look bad. Do note that since Rappa is very sp positive, she can afford to have a team WITH Boothill. Whats next? people gonna tell her to be off three element? This just goes on and on and on.
I can agree when it comes to brute forcing, she may not be as good but brute forcing is simply a matter of performance floor. Its only one aspect. You also need to look at the ceiling. What Rappa can achieve when everything favors her. To that, I say she's better than Acheron and Firefly. Firefly is still the only unit out of the top, that still can't 1 cost 0 cycle btw, let that sink in.
And again, you want to see her performance when there's not a lot of enemies to break? Thats just setting her up for failure. An Erudition unit not being as good at single target as hunt/destruction, insane.If you gonna bring up firefly is better for being good at st and aoe, its back to the ceiling and floor point I mentioned. That simply means shes a jack of all trade, master of none. Firefly is not beating Boothill in ST and shes not beating rappa in AOE and thats fair. Its meant to be like that. Doesnt mean one unit is worse than the other. I'm sure I gonna get attacked by opportunity cost argument here, where you gonna mention that you can just spend 10k jades on firefly and clear all content instead of needing to invest into 2 units. I dont think i can argue further if thats what you gonna go about. I just care more about the ceiling than the floor.
Also, obligatory Acheron fell off.
@@Amir-ry7ppThe shilling is real with this one. Ima just watch funny rapper girl
All these new shiny pokemons just waiting to be Jingliu-ed. Make a pool of the ones you're considering to pull and then pick one you like the most, invest high quality relics in it, pull it's BiS support.
to sum up : play her on element to have better result (but you are supposed to do it with every new unit since 1.0 right? Back in the day elementail imprint didnt exist...) and with Exo toughness, she will be better (bu ....like FF and Boothil basically?) All in all, she is a new toy to approach Super Break meta, so its alright to start with her if you are new to the game (or even if you are old to the game, you know the Myoho drill now)
I came back to this video because the Thumbnail changed
7:45 that's funny because the game is on Epic Games Store not Steam.
One RAPPILLION DMG
I'm kind of surprised you decided to use HMC even when you did your cm video CN Bros that HMC is not good in this team when it's off element. I think you would have had a much better run if you used hunt March shifu Ruan Mei for faster breaking
Didn't bro say at the start say her numbers may be inflated cause lingsha paring than uses her with lingsha anyways or did he say exo toughness in moc
In epic seven, theyre already releasing counters that disable counter attacks from the enemy team 😭😭 whats to say they also do that for FUA teams in hsr in the future
well that's a character mechanic not a boss or any enemy mechanic
they'll powercreep fua with summon meta
27k pure fiction is diabolical😂
It's like the world turned upside down LMAO
Gotta give the win to Boothill 🎉🎉
28:56 "before you pull Rappa, pull Lingsha"
I'm a Rappa stan and sadly this is pretty accurate 😂
Nah fugue first kekw
Ruan Mei?
Rappa is a Firefly but more comfortable and SP positive in E0S0. I don't read any cries
In conclusion: if you have a Firefly E2S1 you don't need Rappa, but if not then you can pull for Rappa.
Or just E1 because she is coming again and you can pull for her E2
imo e2s1 is too high of a requirement, even e1s0 (or arguably even e1) fly is enough to skip rappa unless you really like her, because if you already invested in fly, you don't really need a second break dps, so it's better off wait for rappa rerun (to see if she really pops off with new supports/in new content, or to see how good 3.x dps units will be in comparison).
she's viable if you have boothill though, to cover multitarget content.
it's the weakness implant that sells firefly for me personally
You skipped the part where Rappa ís 2 tiers below FF in some scenarios
Don't worry, I will. Rappeak no matter what shills say.
Apocalyptic Shadow vs Aventurine is the time when you're so cooked and you're just there with minimal reaction and too dazed playing 😭
Chat I have Lingsha, No Firefly, No Ruan Mei do I go for Rappa?
Instructions unclear, i pulled first then watched the video
I totally understand using the best in slot team for these very unfavourable situations for rappa. But isn’t the whole point of end game to adapt to the situation? For example in pure fiction nobody except rappa can break in that fight and it’s a break oriented team. It’s just not viable that way, so wouldn’t it be better to forego harmony MC for someone who matches the element that can do good toughness dmg? I’m sure rappa still clears the mobs with ease as breaking the enemy is way more important for her than a bunch more break effect. Just my opinion though. Well anyways it’s gonna be a rare thing to force teams to face these bad situations anyways.
She's suffers from what Crit Based Erudition characters suffered back in 1.x. And that is if you have the "Destruction" (Jingliu) character or the "Hunt"(Seele) character version already, you just don't need her.
If you have Boothill, you don't need Rappa. If you have Firefly, you definitely don't need Rappa.
"What about Exo-Toughness?" Why are people acting like Exo Toughness will only benefit Rappa? They're 100% gonna benefit Boothill and Firefly too lmfao.
That said, like yeah she's gonna do work. Yeah she's gonna get fast clears. But from a meta standpoint, do you *really* wanna pull for a DPS character a patch or 2 away from 3.0?
yes she is worth it
keep spitting my brother
"history doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes."
Thats the point, meta never gamble with future potential.
Who knows summon is just an archetype addition rsther than being a complete meta?
Or even, if it is indeed meta, what archetype to be used in the other side? Other archetypes is as good to be used there, or it's just whatever?
PULL
me watching this as if i didnt pull rappa frame one 💀
rappa lingsha is not relatable because they were back to back banners right not to mention right after fei. f2ps either have to had saved or picked between the two
its funny because she gets comparde to units who can either implant weaknesses or ignore weaknesses, so obv. because she herself cant do that she isnt gonna peform off element like the other characters, remember before acheron, feixiao and firefly when you actually had to use the units with the right element and couldnt just brute force everything, haha good times, i think (or rather hope) that 3.x will bring this back and we wont get only characters that can ignore or implant weaknesses, because right now its really just brainrot use either acheron, feixiao, firefly or boothill against anything and everything and its becoming lame
All I see is Lingsha annihilating weakness bars
Is this a question ? Ofc i will not pull out on rappa. 🤤 GOONED
isnt cn pull opinion the same thing and earlier? This video is a bit too late for ppl like me. already e2s1 =X
i think that if she was any other element, she would hv been on firefly lvl
She pulled on me with 15 tickets 🗿
Guys i just need to let you know that mrpokke account has e2 ruan mei e1 lingsha so the dmg shouldnt be taken in consideration
Too late, got her in 1 ten pull. Is she worth the 34 pity? Idk
not bad, and stay safe
imo rappa is what boothill and firefly should've been. A balanced super break dps. Ppl are doomppsting her bc she isn't performing like boothill or firefly but in reality shes just balanced and that's it. firefly and boothill are just setting unrealistic standards.
The first team comp just seems awful, why not at least slot in Herta or some other unit that can contribute to breaking at all? He would have probably been better off doing crit lingsha vs spamming a bunch of HMC/Lingsha skills against full toughness bar enemies with no img/fire weakness.
I didn't expect that team to perform at all tbh, you are right, bringing subdps on element to replace HMC is the better play here
But atleast we know her worst team cans till do 27k lol
Fully agreed. Feels just as biased as playing her against choir, just the other way around. At least like... try to put her with a useful team. Pela or Herta or something... hell even Tingyun or Bronya for more ult uptime would have probably been better than HMC.
@@Pokeflame but it's okay, this is the last PF, future PF will always have 5 enemies onfield
Prob the idea was testing her completely off element because none was made it.
But yeah, the best option was Rappa/Ruan Mei/Pela/Lingsha
WAIT! they don't love you like im Loving you
Our favorite hoyo shill 😂😂 missed your content Mr Pokke
The thing is they complete erased ice weakness from enemies in the current meta enemies except aventurine
Idk if 3.0 comes imaginary or fire will be relevant or not
Just pull new dps, even firefly can implant, hoyo will make her fall with some way to sale new dps
thanks for the Lingsha showcase.. oh wai.
12:56
Even bunny can't help, Gala with 100% Eff RES is way better ngl imo 💀
RNGesus denied me this one, guess me and Rappa weren't meant to be. 😮💨
Should I pull her LC?
Yappa talking about Rappa, i'm down
Don't worry, I won't. Skippa no matter what shills say.
Yeah, gotta secure dem herta funds.
GET HER
e0s0 rappa is not that good
e0s1 is busted
@@mseebh You're right. I'll get Herta. And Fugue too.
Bro is a generational hater 💀💀💀
Do you mean after because she’s already in the account lil bro
Pulling? What are you say? Skipping, right? Ok, its better result now)
You know who has been performing easy 0 cycles since their release like 3 patches ago? BOOTHILL, THE GREATEST BREAK UNITE OF ALL TIME, FIREWHO? WHOPPA? Who needs superbreak when you deal 1 MILLION DAMAGE ANYWAYS. HAIL BOOTHILL
Skippa the Floppa.
I got her didnt pre farm anything i have her at lvl 80 her sig lightcone at 70 traces 4 4 3 3 and she was able to 1 cycle so fkn strong lol
Is she good without Ruan mei?
@@Ajax704 idk never tried without ruan mei but if you dont have ruan mei fugue IS coming soon and she will bé similair or stronger also you Can use pela or asta but it will bé a bit weaker
@@Ajax704 are you seriously asking this question rn?
@@Ajax704just like how every break dps there is, viable, but not good enough.
@fukanoonwish999 for example, I play Firefly without Ruan mei, and she still slaps just with Hmc, Asta, Gallagher.
She has demon horns, so of course she is diabolical.
Should’ve used Gallagher using ligsha is just outshining rappa and not rly useful
Less than a year ago, Silver Wolf was considered absolutely broken because she could weakness implant
Today, Rappa is considered bad because she can’t weakness implant
Crazy how the game has evolved this quickly
you can't say she didn't set the meta... ironically