Why Some South Koreans Don't Want Closer Ties With Japan | Insight | Full Episode
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2024
- In the past year, Japan and South Korea have drawn closer diplomatically. Tensions with China and North Korea mean that Japan and South Korea find themselves in the same boat. The two governments want to present a united front in the face of these challenges. But South Korean President Yoon Suk-Yeol is facing domestic pressure to put the brakes on warming ties with Japan.
From protests over the Fukushima-Daiichi water release, to grievances over historical wounds, the anti-Japan lobby in South Korea want the government to be more assertive in their dealings with their eastern neighbour. Could anti-Japan sentiments in South Korea derail the newfound bonhomie between the two nations?
00:00 Introduction
01:12 South Koreans protest Fukushima's wastewater release
04:45 Closer ties with Japan and those who oppose it
08:24 Increasing threat of North Korea
11:43 Historical wounds between S. Korea and Japan
18:05 What led to the "No Japan" boycott
21:45 Controversy around Japan's Yasukuni War Shrine
24:54 The New Right and debates over history
29:46 Changing perceptions of Japan in Korea amongst the youth
36:55 South Korea's relations with China
43:18 Can closer ties between South Korea and Japan weather domestic pressure?
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Being a good neighbor and being an alliance is two different things.
Only China and Russia have completely banned imports of Japanese seafood. IAEA also says there is no problem. Do you believe in Putin and Xi Jinping more than science?🤣
Japan's "war heroes"?? Is it like The Third Reich "heroes" of Germany? Interesting.
Camp 731 research it...
No, they're people that died for Japan. Despite their bad upbringing and evil action, they still die for Japan. They should be remembered not because they're evil, but because of their service to the emperor. They become a historic part in imperial japan rise and fall which is why they should be remembered.
War museums in Japan still tend to deny all wrongdoing and paint a picture of the Japanese as freedom fighting liberators, not least of all the Yashukan Museum next to Yasukini.
Of course Japan denied as its government is filled with political descendents of WW2. To them, those who died, died for the glory of the Emporer and the Empire of Japan.
@@DreamyCheshire-up9rf Yes, though it shouldn't be a point of saying "Of course" any more than one might expect Germany still to be run by Neo-Nazis
@@user-kw4dr8gd2t According to some WW2 revisionists, there was no China after 1644, or after 1911. Due to the principle of cultural succession, Japan was next in line to take over the land of former China.
In other words, according to these revisionists, better for Japan to take over than for the whites to take over.
So you are right in saying japanese glorification of militarism is China propaganda. Because in this context, Japan is Little China. 😊😊
Then do AMERICA MUSEUM HAVE PICTURES OF HOW THEYTE BEATING TORTURE & KILLING VIETNAMESE PEOPLE IN VIETNAM WARS??
Did they’re accept & officially bow to APOLOGIZE TO VIETNAMESE ORANGE TOXIC VICTIMS??
When they’re throwing MILLIONS CHEMICALS TOXIC TONS IN VIETNAM LANDS & JUNGLE, KILLING & AFFECT MILLIONS LIVES!!
It’s chemical toxic, so their next-next generation affect by this TOXIC IT CHANGING HUMAN GENES!!
Did you ever see ORANGE TOXIC (chất độc màu da cam) VICTIMS & THEIR KIDS??
These orange toxic victims kids born in brutal hell body, look like monsters, it unbelievable & heartbreaking!!
So dont act like only Japan.
But US & Western use to be Wars MONGERS &THEYRE WARS CRIMES!!
What US ARMY & US GORVEMENT did to Vietnamese is more brutal & inhumane!!
At least killing ppl it affect directly that person. But chemical toxic is affect & destroy millions lives & their next-next generation still affecting
So anyone can talk about HUMANITY RIGHT BUT US HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT HUMAN RIGHT WHEN THEYRE OWN VIETNAM & WHAT THE WAS DID IN VIETNAM WARS!!
I’m not brings racist or hateful here. It’s history & it’s the past, what done is done. Nothing can changing the past.
I was mention you act like only Japan is bad & did terrible things. But US & French is not better
@@fortpark-wd9sx ?where can i see the text? Thats too crazy
Right.. Because a nation that freely sells anti-Korean books in bookstores must love Korea so frigging much. The hate must be one way street. What absolutely bullcrap biased report.
japan is an easy and convenient issue that politicians like to rattle when they want to seem patriotic. korea both north and south use this basic tactic, so does china. this is similar to the way other politicians rattle immigration to seem patriotic .
the first and easiest rule of power is to create and blame the other.
why is japan the easy target then? why not US?
Yes it is totally wrong if blame it not based on truth. But unfortunately, the reason japan is easy issue to get attention is because that content of blame is truth!
Koreans not just criticize Japanese government who denies and distort the issue but also criticize Korean politician who brought up issue but couldn't or wouldn't solve this problem.
By the way, I already know North Korea and South Korea issue is good topic to Japanese politicians too. They also used this issue at their covering up or making agenda and policies.
And considering japan is offender in most of issue, Koreans resentment doubles.
@@user-rt6ip4kb1i On the street corners, a woman stepped on my foot. Reactions of victim and assailant in each country.
- The USA “Hey! You're on my foot!. Oops! Excuse me / I’m sorry / catcalls”
- Canadian, Japanese and Inuit “I’m sorry! I’m sorry, too”
- Chinese and Korean “Ow! Ow! It hurts! Please give me this money. That's my line!”
- Indian “Stare until you grab your ears with your hands.”
@@karlanderson6482 Are you crying wolf again? Japan being picked on by communist Korea.
Korea statement is full of falsehood. Because, There is enough evidence to show that the Korean is a cheater and should not be trusted. OECD fraud ranked number one. Korea is 165 times as perjury as Japan. DNA never lies. The Korean have no notion of guilt. serial liar. Ironically, Most Korean people even know. Because, Koreans face many scams in Korea. On top of that Koreans often deceive Koreans overseas as well. The fraud rate is one of the highest in the world like 165x Japan's and often such crimes are committed by someone we actually know each other like friends and relatives. But strangely enough many of Korean go to church and speak for charity. Also, Notorious as a liar in Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand, China, Japan and the Philippines.
@@user-co5ri6dp3c your english is barely understandable. sorry, i have no comment.
Yoon’s walking style is funny😅 , anyone agree ?
Oh, please united, don’t divided. Wishing everyone a happy happy life!
You can’t clap with a one hand
Some koreans stay they cannot accept what Japanese has done before, history still remains
If I were South Korean I would not want closer ties with Japan, the history is disgusting.
Hi Korean
@@dtodrdammwpaj9706 Hi netouyo
The main problem I have with this reporting is that it is focused completely on Korea's point of view. If this is really about volatile Korea-Japan relations, then the reporters really should have travelled to Japan and report their side of the story as well. Yes past transgression is what shapes the modern history of now especially regarding these two nations. But you can't just report stories on one side and ignore the other opposite. You hear lot of stories from Korea, but what about Japan? How do they feel about this issue? Do all the right wing leaders currently in power and rest of the ordinary people in the island nation speak with one mind? This reporting shows only Korea has this issue and only make them look bad.
Speaking as a Korean myself, I expected better than this.
not only korean biased but also extremely biased with the pov of republicans
Some far right Japanese people are protesting against Koreans, but mostly against Zainichi Koreans (permanent Korean residents in Japan)
Japan look downs on South Korea.
Japan dare NOT look down on North Korea
Japan dare NOT look down on China.
Agree 💯
Well its Singaporean government propaganda. What do you expect from a country without freedom of speech lol?
As a side note they report other country's problems, but never their own.
You should really dub the korean and japanese speaking, I can't read subs while driving
Nobody fears Germany today because they put in the work to take accountability and atone for their past. Japan has consistently taken strides in the opposite direction, which is why it's still the target of fear and distrust from its neighbors. And really, it's delusional to expect any other response. The axe forgets, the tree remembers. It would be eminently stupid of the tree to forget, when the axe insists on sending signs that it could go back to chopping stuff at any time.
Nah, I don’t agree.
You can’t assume Germany has the same diplomatic premises and naively put them in the same context. The prostitution problem Japan has with Korea does not only involve South Korea but also North Korea, which is backed by China. Obviously, Germany is not in this kind of complicated geopolitical circumstance anymore after its unification.
Academically speaking, the the Korean prostitution problem still has a lot to be clarified too.
@@my_account5603 yeah and this sex trafficking still occur as of now in South Korea.
So if Koreans are that sensitive about these sexual abuse, why dont they stop the one in Korea..
south korea hasn't put in the work either to take accountability and atone for their past atrocities in vietnam. where are the reparations for those victims? General Chae Myoung Shin, commander of the ROK Forces ran the vietnamese comfort women system during the vietnam war.
@@Criminelsoyeux sex trafficking??? In Korea ??? Have you ever come to Korea ???? Don't spit out anything in your stupid brain
@@my_account5603 I'm sure @jalfredprufrock620 is talking about this th-cam.com/video/eMq-fApmzts/w-d-xo.html not today's red light district. Calling it a prostitution problem is like calling the holocaust a german microagression. Japan had its own holocaust and genocide in many countries and was granted impunity by the US as oppose to Germany. Even today I had teacher punish me and did horrible things to me for speaking okinawan a language that they call a "dead language" spoken by "slaves". They teach in schools that what japan did in WW2 is honorable and because of that these chauvinistic Hirohito ideologies persist today. Japan never really changed because it has never seen itself as errable and thats because the US has been giving them impunity while helping them build an illegal military. Instead they see themselves as prophetic, as if the "children of the sun goddess" has a "special duty" to "contribute order" to the world and anybody who disagrees with them are just "marginalizing" them. I quoted all of these idioms because thats the kind of language they use in japanese. So you understand the mentality of these kinds of facists in Japan.
I have a good solution: If you hate South Korea, don't watch KPOP. If you hate Japan, don't watch Anime. That's for sure.
There are Japanese people who don't listen to K-pop, but there are no Koreans who don't watch anime.
Hating politics ain’t hating the country itself.
@@SK-dn9nk What...? I'm sorry, but I think you're mistaken. No one around me watches animations and doesn't listen to your country's music. Your country's music is not even in the top 100 on Korean music charts. And they don't like watching Japanese animations a lot in Korea
I like Korean Ladyboys
Umm i am korean i dont know About anime at all lol😊
Yeah basically Japan left deep wound and scars to all the country they had occupied in the past. Peace from Indonesia.
Too bad that Japan is under the protection of the warmonger United Snakes, hence Japan has never been punished for their crimes. Unlike Germany, Japan school textbooks never mention the war crimes that they committed, no words of killing and raping, if I am not wrong, only 1-2 lines of words about the war, their authority described their invasion as acts of liberation, that is it.
@@SW-fy8pq cuz muricans are criminals themselves
@@zi.d7 Who cares about their younger generation since they can't even get a date, let's focus on their evil japanese government called the LDP.
You probably aren’t Indonesian 😂
@@SW-fy8pq, just like how Mao Zedong was never punished for murdering 50 million Chinese in the Great Leap Forward & cultural revolution
Japón y corea del sur son dos países extremadamente arrogantes y orgullosos, la única razón por la que se soportan entre ellos es por estados unidos, entre democracias también hay guerras así que la democracia no significa nada cuando tienes intereses diferentes,.
Wars between democracies are extremely rare. This is because democracies are less willing to bear the costs of war.
@@ianshaver8954 jajaja , Japón y corea del sur irían muy animados a una guerra y pagarían sin pensar los costos de guerra incluida la sangre para defender su "honor", sus democracias solo son máscaras que ocultan el elitismo de sus sociedades, dónde a la autoridad se le obedece sin pensar, incluso a un alumno un año mayor le deben hablar por honoríficos, no están en el mismo nivel. No son verdaderos democracias.
Well , As Indonesian ,
I know my people have more laid back attitude
, i should say our people still have more laid back approach to the Japanese
As your founding President supposedly said, Indonesia changed 1 set of colonial masters for another set of colonial masters. The Japanese were no liberators.
Large numbers of your people died due to hard labor and food shortages. Some Indonesians recalled how their grandparents fled into the mountains and forests to avoid contact with Japanese.
At the same time, the US more or less, if somewhat grudgingly respected Indonesia's non-aligned neutrality, so long Suharto did his part against the Reds.
Meanwhile South Korea has been pressured on-off to follow the US-Japan line since 1953 but South Korea has resisted when possible, causing US unhappiness.
It seem like Indonesia is Japan's machine or puppet, no more no less.
The narrative has always been about uniting countries against China. But the smart smaller countries should be playing the bigger countries against each other to maximising their own gains and prevent themselves from being a hostage.
That only works for nations that have sovereignty. South Korea and Japan are literally vassals of the US, there's not much they can do without the US' approval.
if the radioactive ☢water is so clean. I want them to go and drink one glass of that water on television.
Since Korea also releases it, Koreans should drink it too haha.
What you asked for was already done in October 2011.
@@dddbbb6940 they never drank the water. they ate a tiny piece of fish from the waters of Fukushima. lol.
@@polysporin8332 "A Japanese official has drunk water collected from the quake-hit Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, after reporters challenged him to prove it was safe.
Yasuhiro Sonoda appeared nervous and his hands shook as he downed a glass during a televised news conference.
The water he drank was taken from puddles under two reactor buildings. It is decontaminated before being used for tasks such as watering plants."
1 November 2011
Cited from BBC NEWS
Do you still say that?
@@dddbbb6940 if it is so safe then allow Korean, Chinese and ASEAN officials to audit the water.
ok, I confirm your article. One official drank half a glass of contaminated water. RIP for him. what a fool.
Anti Japan is a shared feeling between Korean and Chinese. My mother lived under Japanese occupation when she was a kid. She never touched Japanese food or made in Japan product in her entire life, and I never had Japanese food before she passed away. It’s like Jew can’t forgive Nazi. Japanese slaughtered, raped for three days in Nanjing, 300,000 people was killed, over ten million Chinese died during the 8 years war with Japan, can’t forget, can’t forgive.
Actually, 35 million Chinese died in Japan's invasion of China, you had the wrong data. And the invasion continued for 14 years since 1931.
nope, we are not living in the past like Chinese doing
My grandfather was kept in a nazi concentration camp for almost 2 years: if he forgave the Germans, everyone else can definitely do it.
@@yuku521very rude and mean.
@@MadAtreides1if you think millions of lives were killed is not a big deal
Our Burmese People love Anime and K-Drama😊😊🤗
缅甸人爱看韩剧和日本动漫。
i don't understand your Language?
မင်းပြောတဲ့ဘာသာစကားကျွန်တော်နားမလည်ဘူး🇲🇲😟🤔?
@@kendrickwinseung5061 But forgiving Japan is good, but don't forget… China and Korea are the only countries in Asia that remember the past
@@user-qo7bu5fx2x We don't you used Ch'na products because. Made in China are Bad qulity 👎. Made in kore and japan are Both the best quality 👍
Never think that money can cure or eliminate the deep sorrow in the heart neither nor sincere appologize.
It will be hurt deep in the heart.
So we keep opening the wound again and again?
The Korean left is very irrational about this.
@@emilioperez6888 it is very rational when it happens to you
@@karangputih Oh, like when I got bullied at school by multiple kids? Throwing me chairs when I’m going downstairs, kids telling me to kill myself (including my own mother), or being absolutely racist because I’m half Asian?
Guess what, they all grew up and never did that again. Nowadays we joke about it and get along. I forgive them.
That is the rational thing to do. Not perpetuating the problem or feel righteous about the fact that “Now I stand in the moral high ground”. That only brings unnecessary conflicts with no value.
Hundreds of thousands of Koreans volunteered for the Japanese Imperial Army
Where did the large sums of money that Japan paid for the apology really go? Why is it that every time a politician runs for office, he raises the issue of war crimes to boost his popularity?
That money was not actually compensation for colonization. Anyway It spent to korea's development. major companys and national big construction took it. It is korean government's fault to not give those money to real victims.
But what koreans really want is not compensation.
What they want is not covering up and not distort war crimes in colonization and WW2 period.
Koreans already know few prime ministers alreay apologized before. What they don't like is denial, even distortion of recent prime ministers
Makes me question the world's progress
we have one lol?
What progress? Humanity sucks.
As you should. I suggest reading Korean American author Linda Sue Park's book about this time from the perspective of a Korean family. It is a well researched fictional story written for young adults. The title is ''When My Name Was Keoko''.
Yeah right, western media can actually label these anti-Japanese as tribal far right but they won't do it. It's the liberal Koreans who are more willing to have closer ties with the Japanese. It's not that hard to understand.
Indeed
It’s actually the left wing party against Japan and the right wing party that’s for Japan
Tell me you don’t know ANYTHING about Korean politics without telling me 😂
Ok maybe we should be pity on you. That statement above right there was a mockery against the protestors in the video. @@CJ-fs1zr
@@WingsHype You’re now backtracking 🤡🤣 after making no sense
Learn basic Korean politics 🤣
Your attempts at sarcasm is a pity 😭
@@CJ-fs1zr I stand by my statement, I'm not backtracking anything. Yoon suk yeol's Liberal party is right wing. And as western media climate as it is, what these protesters sought after can be labelled as far right in my opinion. Do I make myself clear to you?
I love it how CNA uses all the American Neo Con and think tank ls like the CSIS and Australian AISP jargons and talking points.
"Indo Pacific", "increasingly assertive China" .
As if China under Mao Zedong, Jiang Kai Shek and the Qing Dynasty was not assertive.
Are you kidding me!!
Like only Americans ignorant of Asian history and geography comes up with these terms.
And we can clearly see whom your editorial team is getting your talking points from.
it's not some but most.
I missed the overall picture about US influences on both countries to unite and fight on behalf of US hegemony goal in Asia Pacific against China. Which military alliance has China entered with other countries? But look at AUKUS, Nato, Norad, Anzus or other strategic alliances between US-Japan-Korea or even US-India etc. Who is the real threat to world peace?
it is just a narrative, to fund war and to make money, else what is America known for anyway? Stirring and instigating conflicts seems to be their number 1 top priority!
China. China is the real threat. China has territorial dispute with all of its neighbors.
USA will force a war in east asia, just like how USA forced the Ukraine war by extending the military alliance NATO to the door step of Russia.
As an Indian. It's definitely China for us because of the border issue and death of our soldiers.
The real threat to world peace is obviously the new evil axis of Russia India and China. Fortunately since India and China hate each other that threat is still limited.
As a Korean citizen who has served this country for several years, this situation is very intriguing. Several pieces of evidence have been found linking North Korea's South Korean operations department to the left-wing groups, but they have been cleared of charges by a coalition of big left-wing opposition parties and left-wing social organizations. It just weird.
I served my country too, but this idea that left-wing groups have been influenced by the North has long been right-wing propaganda being thrown around since the country was divided, especially in the Cold War. The conservatives have always screamed communist when it comes to anything more liberal than them, then cite National Security Law to persecute the opposition (violent crackdowns during the Rhee, Park and Chun dictatorship era in Jeollanam-do and Jeju-do, Gwangju, Bu-ma protests). The screening of collaborative films produced by North Korea by Jeju-based civil rights groups was pre-approved by the right-wing government but still those groups offices' were ransacked, yet the right-wing defector groups are allowed to still launch propaganda balloons without the government permission into the North despite violating the sovereignty of another nation and previous inter-Korean agreements.
파고다 공원에서 할배들끼리 할 법한 애기를 외국인들 많은 이런 공간에...으휴 쪽팔려. 이래서 2찍들은 대한민국의 암세포
That Moon Jail has been on the run for one and a half years.
Successive Korean presidents fled, assassinated, suicided oneself, were in prison. That's all they ever does!
@@daeseongkim93how is that a "propaganda"??
@daeseongkim93 I checked out some of your contents on your account, and your POV is kinda away from the actual dude who lives and endures the situation here. You might have served your country well, but stating the fact that happened decades ago would not help. This thing is still ongoing. There is a saying that goes, "Know your enemy." and that clearly indicates the North Korean communist party and its subsidiaries for me. Whether you agree or not.
I don't know how it looks to foreign countries, but we are only temporarily united in the face of a common threat, not reconciled. From the Japanese
本当にそうですね
真実は明らかにされているのに まだ続けるようですね
シンガポールなら まだ通じると思っておられるようです
I'm a Korean-American, so I have a bit of a unique perspective, but why can't both countries move past their differences? If we keep focusing on the history of hatred between the two nations, our children and future generations will never fully be accepting to one another. I love my Japanese brothers and sisters, and I hope the best for them in the future.
@@Miimu5210 그건 당신이 미국국적을 가진 미국인의 입장에서 보기때문이다. 중국과 러시아에 대항해서 밑에 있는 두 나라가 같이 잘 지내길 바라는 입장이나
맞찬가지 니까 . 한국본토에 사는 사람은, 잘못을 악행을 저지른 나라가 그런일은 없다고 부인하고, 계속해서 영토 마저 자기들 땅이라고 계속
우기고 이의 제기를 한 상황에서 없었던것 처럼 모른체 하고 미래를 이야기 하겠나? 생각해봐라 널 뚜둘겨 패고 자식마저 성폭행 했는데
그런일 없었으니 사과할 필요도 없고, 앞으로 잘지내 보자라고 이야기 하면 , 잘지낼수 있을까?
@@Miimu5210See thank China for bring you two together. Lelouch activity
Almost all Asians hate Japan 🇯🇵❌
What country would argue that Genghis Khan was a war criminal and Mongolia should continue to apologize?
Time heals all wounds, but it seems Korea needs a few more centuries. Therefore, it is futile to try to improve Japan-Korea relations, at least for now.
Exactly! just look at the Philippines, they suffered from Imperial Japan AND their Korean conscripts, do You see Filipinos complaining about the Japanese and Koreans? Koreans gotta learn to let go, majority of people who were affected by WW2 have all passed its already 2024 not 1945!
lol thats not the entire point. forgiving others because u are educated in a modern world is fine. but the thing is , japan is denying their youth from knowing this part of the history. u can go look at their text book from history lesson. theres nothing bout japanese militarism, wusha incident , nanjing massacre. and i think modern china already forgive japan as whole despite condeming this part of the incident mentioned above. As we did not see china sanctioning japan all these while in any trades until recently when japanese decided to stood by with usa to sanction china. go learn from the germans and UK and even genghis khan history. everyone know the same history and thats fine, even modern chian ppl know bout genghis khan rule the europe and kill many people , and thats a fact and real part of history, but if u interviewing youngster in japan bout wusha incident , nanjing massacre, japanese militarism in world war ii, they knew nothing and thats not ok. thats why they facing the backlash. go know the fact first before u spitting some words. if china want to hate anyone , the first 8 countries who invaded them before world war ii shud be forever on the black list but none of them were. this apply to korea as well. china helped korea for defense against japan invasion before world war ii, even tho korea split into two diff system and gov but it doesnt mean their people dont know anything bout history. We forgive peoples for what they did in the past providing everything is told properly. i kill your dog and i said sorry to you personally , but infront of my kids i said i did not kill the dog, the dog just died. do u think it is ok if i said like this ? feel free to challenge , i am living and working in kyoto currently as a malaysian chinese, and i found interesting that japan governemnt refuse to show their young citizen the truth and they think it is right.
@@GCS88 Imagine some dumbass actual comparing army conscripts to fuking war crimes in WWII that killed tens of millions in Asia. And last time I've checked, South Korea didn't force Philippine to join the Korean war. You can "blame" Uncle Sam for that.
What a silly comparison. Do you ever see Mongolia denying, obscuring and refusing to teach history to next generations?
@@GCS88You don't understand Koreans. They're the ultimate grudge holders.
survey conducted by the Asan Institute for Policy Studies, 67% of South Koreans had negative feelings towards Japan
Every year, South Korean people commemorate Japan’s surrender: students perform beating “Japanese soldiers” .
China don't even display this type of performance
@@happymelon7129 ok wumao. go collect your 50 cents
@@blackbelt2000 read more books
@@happymelon7129 I read plenty, you should read more that what your master xinnie the poo allows you to
@@blackbelt2000 but you don't even know this survey report is real.
i'm from Myanmar 🇲🇲 but I respect 🇰🇷🤝🇲🇲🤝🇯🇵 Japan and South korea. I wanted say stop hating each other .
you dont understand anything...
@@havencat9337 no. i want to say peace.
@@havencat9337 Hey guy whre are you from
Worry about your government first 💀
@@troy5094 😂😂😂😂 We Hate China Because your Mainland China Government was Steling Our Natural Resources .
Not some. Majority of public.
Not majority. More than half of koreans don't share their insanity. Just thinking Japan appologized enough and should forget about the past. Don't get me wrong. "No intention to support what Japan has don e in the past but that is crazy."
But its not unusual to see a japanese- korean couples these days, even when they ancestors did bad things to each other
That's how it should be, learn from the mistakes of our ancestors but dont live by it.
korea is so dramatic.. whatever you do the past wont be change
And that goes same to japan too. No matter how hard we try to hide our history, it won't be successful. We have to make constructive dialogues instead of being emotional. Always see the facts and make sensible decisions
To be fair Japanese PMs, FMs, cabinet secretaries have apologized to victims and Asian countries more than 20 times.
well Ive never heard that these were reported in East Asia
These apologies are then overturned by influential right-wing nut-jobs who have claimed unfavorable history of Japan's misdeeds are just so-called communist propaganda.
These apologies are largely for US consumption. At home, since the 1970s, there has been a significant revisionist movement gaining control of the academic-historical establishment.
The apologies have become meaningless.
Facts💯
Chinese and Koreans always says "Japan never apologize". And I always reply "there is difference between never apologize and never forgive"
Korean knows many prime ministers already apologized. But did goizumi, Abe and kishida has same view? No. they denied and distorted comfort women, forced labour, nanking massacre, dokdo and worshiped or send offering to Yasukuni shrine which has A class war criminals.
would world say nothing if germany make memorial for hitler, proudly hold Nazi flag in that memorial and denies killing jews? I strongly doubt that.
@@karlanderson6482
1. Yasukuni shouldnt be considered a literally war shrine. Just as slaughterers have been rest in Arlington and terrorists in Dongjakdong
2. Takeshima is ours
@@sgakm.manyida Slaughterers in Arlington and terrorist in dongjakdong? LOL
do you even know that Japanese war criminals were sentenced in the court?
(International Military Tribunal for the Far East)
Now I see you are one of people who honors Nazis and war criminals and only mourn their defeat not their wrongdoings.
I see you just hate Korea itsel and looking for excuses for that. Not for some reason you formerly said(Koreans don't know there's Japanese prime minister who already apologized etc)
And dokdo is Korean territory. Unnoticed and not owned until 20 century? please search it up look korean documentaries and japanese together. don't blindly believe bullshit lies of japanese Ministry of foreign affairs.
I formerly replied to you to let you Koreans know there's apologized prime minister. To have conversation, understanding and have peace between us.
now I see I can't expect much mind changing awakening from you. When you hate korean with irrational reasons.
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Russia is not a communist country.
technically japan has apologized and paid compensation to korean government. and it also seems like koizumi and kishida visited some Korean colonial memorial place and bowed(not sure abt other japanese pms tho.) kono taro's father also apologised about japan's wrongdoings. i know many Japanese politicians say sorry and then proceed to visit yasukuni shrine and that pisses korean and chinese off so much but i don't really understand why koreans would pretend like they never got the money from Japan. i also heard that many leftist even disturb comfort women from getting compensation from Japan when those comfort women actually wanted to get those compensation cos if they get the compensation from Japan, those evil people like yoon mi hyang who do business by makinf comfort women look as sad as possible lose jobs
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야스쿠니 신사참배가 굉장히 불편한건 사실입니다. 독일의 반성하는 행동이랑 비교되서 더 그런 것도 있고요. 배상을 했다고 역사적 책임까지 없어진다고 생각하지 않습니다. 정말로 미안하다면 신사참배를 하지 않겠죠. 솔직히 일본인들이 끝없는 전쟁으로 가득찬 그때의 제국을 그리워하는것도 별로 이해가지 않지만, 안타깝네요
@@heat8544독일이랑 왜 비교하는지 이해가 안 돼요. 독일은 유대인 인종을 지우려했던 거고 그에 대한 사과를 했죠. 아프리카 식민지배에 사과 안 했습니다. 물론 일본이 난징에서 대학살을 일으킨 거는 사과를 해야할 부분이고 인정을 해야할 부분인 건 맞아요. 그러나 한국은 베트남 학살 사과했습니까? 6.25때 학살 안 일으켰습니까? 그리고 일본은 제국시대 그리워하지 않습니다. 대학수업들으면 교수들도 일본군국주의 신랄하게 비판합니다. 당신이 주장하는 거에대한 근거가 궁금합니다.
Looking at the topic of the Korean War and Vietnam, it seems like you don't have the slightest knowledge of world history.
The Vietnam War was not an invasion of Korea by Korea, but rather a participation by Korea to prevent it from becoming communist at the request of the United States.
The Korean War was a war that prevented North Korea from launching a preemptive attack on South Korea.
You Japanese people invaded Korea, colonized Korea, and even carried out a policy of genocide, forcing people to change their names to Japanese names and learn Japanese.
If you are intelligent, you will know the difference.
Assuming you understand the above differences, let’s take a look at their reflective attitude.
How can a representative of a country think that they are reflecting on history by visiting a shrine for war criminals?
And there are idiots who carry the Rising Sun flag, a symbol of Japanese imperialist invasion, to soccer stadiums.
How is it different from the Nazi Hakenkreuz?
Do you place your conscience on your hand and understand their actions?
I like Japanese people and I love their advanced culture. And I believe that Japan will become an essential partner for Korea.
However, if there is no common understanding of past problems, it is only a pretend cooperation, which cannot be true harmony.
Humiliation still no apologies from brutal Japan during invasion of Korea
Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, Canada, and United States should make a NPTO (North Pacific Treaty Organization).
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Both are American Sattelite countries so why bother . low birth rate also unites both countries .
and in the end, people who were anti-Japanese and hypocritical Koreans still went to Japan🤣
Well they did not know Manny Zainichi Korean.
because they are anti japanese government's policy, not japanese itself. why do you mock korean anyway? Why don't you work for peace not hatred.
@@karlanderson6482 Because koreans deserve to be mocked, nah that's bullshit I often see Koreans hating everything about Japan, and not to mention talking about how koreans are known to be very racist towards Southeast Asians, it seems like the life motto of Koreans is to live as hypocrites.
@@karlanderson6482Korea works for hatred basically 24/7 so mocking them for that is not a bad thing. Move on, it’s not 1945 anymore. Demanding tons of apologies and money is not a good idea because Japan has done everything already and even comfort women issue was solved in 2015, but Korea still wants some more money and hype on history 🤡
Because not all Koreans are anti- Japan? Is that so hard to understand?
Why doesn't these anti-Japanese Koreans go look at themselves and how they ignored the plight of countless Vietnamese women that their army brutalized, murdered, or raped during the Vietnam war. There are still around 200 women alive today still waiting for an apology and compensation. At least Japan has apologized multiple times and has paid for the damages they inflicted during WW2 after these two countries signed a peace treaty ending hostilities in the 1960s. Japan paid almost 2 billion dollars in today's money to the Korean government which they then used to help them recover after the Korean war.
Many Vietnamese aren't even worried about the Vietnam War anymore & don't care for an apology. For Pete's sake, many Vietnamese say they don't have a problem with Americans.
@@rabbidcrazy787 It's just money. The US pays for people to like them on the outside at least. But deep within and when the money runs out....who knows.
Can’t blame them. Considering Japan hasn’t even acknowledged what happened.
Japan should pay up full compensation for what they committed on the Korean people in the war.
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Past is past. We should move along for better future for our children
I’m Korean, main reason is Japan invaded Korea many times.if there is no USA. They will invade again 😅
Don't forget the crimes committed by Koreans in the Vietnam war. They killed 9,000 civilians. It is interesting that Koreans are contradictory, saying to Vietnam that it is unproductive to worry only about the past, but to Japan that they should not turn away from historical issues.
Japan invaded and failed in 1592/1596 under Toyotomi Hideyoshi, and in 1905. That's not "many times", don't make it sound worse than it was. China, on the other hand... "According to South Korean history, China invaded Korea 19 times, won all 19 times." Why aren't you talking about the Chinese, or are you just an agent working for Beijing? 🤫
@@michaelk4896 Quit your futile attempt at pitting Koreans against Chinese. You Yanks are pathetic.
@@user-tn8hz9zk3m Typical red-herring, whataboutism post from a Japanese netouyo.
Maybe try a different form of argument for once? That is some pathetic attempt at deflection.
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japan invade korea first before the world war ii starts . koreans do not forget the history like the japanese did with their historical lessons. Fun fact, japanese new gen knew three kingdoms zhuge kong ming from china ancient history more than they knew bout musha incident in taiwan and also nanjing massacre the invasion carry on by their elders.and then they wiped the entire history from their new gen like it never happens before. we are taught to forgive others sins and what is past is past but what japan did by fixing and create a false history to their younger one is totally bullshyt and unacceptable. and they actually dare to point finger on china being "communist". how ironic is that the japanese scholars love everything bout china history and culture but they cant even show their own history to their own people. in future , the japanese youngster would say hiroshima and nagasaki is destroyed by godzilla vs ghidorah , ultraman vs alien baltan
6mil tourist/year to japan ? stop tourism to japan if you so anti-japan. hypocritical.
Japan hold key to chemical supply for the Samsung's hitech industry. So either make money or be enemy.
They both US lackeys in Asia. There's price to pay for losing war and gaining military support after all.
I thought Japan has compensate S.Korea with 800 milion (equivalent to 1.7 billion USD in todays value) grants in terms of cash, low-interest rates and commercial credits. AND the emperor of japan formally apologized in 1990.. Why are they still anti-Japanese… any korean want to explain? I am south east asian and we forgive (my late grandparents) forgive the Japanese tho they lost so many family members during the war because they wanted to move on.
Korean Supreme court ruled that Government has no right to stop individual citizen from filing for lawsuit against Japanese government. Korean government demand nothing against JP. Only individual victims demand for compensation and apology. That's the issue. I don't know what is the case in your country, but Korea has strong constitutional protection for individual right against government.
@@walkingholiday498 I see. It is the individuals that are asking for compensation and apology from the Japanese Government. I believe that is not much of the people from the old japanese Colony left in korea, Hope the japanese are fast before it is too late. May I ask, the Japanese Emperor did made an apology to the war crimes committed against the Koreans, why was that not enough? and regarding the compensation, Shouldn't the government of Korea pay the Victims instead? As Japan already compensate USD 1.7 Billion post World War 2. And Why Koreans are anti-japanese as a whole? While i do note that a small number Japanese who are anti-East asian as a whole and asking for a revision of the history, but that has been proven to be a very small number of Japanese people, and most of them are old generation. While in Korea the numbers of anti-japanese are staggering to say the least. Dont get me wrong, my thoughts are genuinely out of curiosity and i would like to be as fair as i possibility can. As a South East Asian, We are also a victim of genocide and many atrocities and yet our reaction was more, Forgive but never forget. Move forward to a better future. I mean Imagine the strength if South Korea, Taiwan and Japan create their own Organization like the European Union or the North America Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). What does it takes to achieve this? I hope you can feel my sincerity to understand this issue, and I wish nothing more than peace all over the world.
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The reason why S.Koreans do not accept the fact that Japan has apologized and paid reparations to S.Korea is because they can unite all of S.Korea by making Japan their enemy.
@@isamibrahim8643 I don't think you truly understand the issue here... there is huge difference between saying 'we are sorry for what we have done and we will make sure we will teach what we have done to our kids so this never happens again' vs "we are sorry that our actions somehow resulted in you being hurt by it so we will pay you some money... now shut up already and stop complaining..btw, we will teach our kids we did nothing wrong'.... Do you not see the difference!!!
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영어로 쓰려다가 한국말로 씁니다. 영어로는 설명이 어려울 것 같아서요. 윗분들의 댓글은 근본적인 이유가 아닌 것 같습니다.
첫째로 일본이 제공한 돈은 배상금이 아닙니다. 한국이 식민지배에 대한 청구권을 포기하는 대신 지급한 합의금이죠. 이 과정에 일본의 사과는 없었습니다.
둘째로 일본 정부가 사과한 적이 있는 것은 사실입니다. 문제는 사과한 당시 정부와 달리 최근 총리인 고이즈미 신이치로, 신조 아베, 기시다 후미오 등의 총리는 사과 했던 총리들의 의견을 지지한다고 하지만 '위안부는 없었다. 강제 징용도 없었다. 독도는 일본 땅이다' 와 같이 사과와는 정 반대되는 말을 했으며 UNESCO에 군함도(섬)가 등재되는 대신 해당 섬에서 있었던 강제징용을 가이드가 안내하고, 안내에 표기하기로 한 약속을 지키지 않았습니다. 또한 본래는 야스쿠니 신사에 없었던 A급 전범들을 1978년에 포함시켰고 지금까지도 총리 및 정부 인사가 제물을 보내거나 직접 참배하러 갑니다.
셋째로 천황들이 사과한 것은 사실입니다. 하지만 일본은 왕정이 아니라 입헌군주국으로, 천황의 명령이 나라의 정책이자 뜻이 아닙니다. 내각에서 선출된 총리가 그 역할을 맡고 있죠. 한국은 천황의 사과는 기꺼이 받아들이고, 총리 또한 천황의 의견을 무시하지 않기 바랍니다.
마지막으로, 한국은 일본을 용서했습니다. 많은 동남아시아 국가들처럼 잊지 않았을 뿐입니다. 만약 용서하지 않았다면 한국에서 일본인이 보일 때마다 욕하거나, 때리거나 입국금지했을 것 입니다. 하지만, 한국인들은 오히려 용서했기 때문에 그런 일은 권장되지도 않고, 불법입니다.또한 한국인들즌 일본인들과 자연스럽게 교류하고 여행도 가고 있습니다.
다만 일본 국민들이 한국인들이 알고있는 중요한 사실을 모르는 것이 아닌지 걱정합니다. 또 한국은 기억하기 때문에 알만큼 알고(엘리트이고), 사과했다고 주장하면서도 역사적 사실을 부정하는 일본 정부에 분노할 뿐입니다.
어떤 일본인들은 사과하고, 사실을 인정하는 것이 배상으로 이어질까봐 걱정하지만 그 문제는 한국 일본 기본 조약에서 청구권이 소멸되었다는 말로 한국에게 거절할 수 있습니다. 즉 한국의 문제인 것이지요.
다만 모든 한국인이 원하는 것은 일본 정부가 사과를 뒤집지 않는 것. 일본 제국주의의 잘못을 덮으려고 하지말고 인정하는 것 뿐입니다.
Not some.
Why all news on South Korea is always so depressing?
Because that is what gets them views. This is modern day journalism.
Shits a joke.
Because South Korea is a very miserable and depressing country
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The German apologized unreservedly, unconditionally, to this day we do not pester them with their past, but for Japan.....it is reasonable to hold grudge against them particularly the lack of unconditional and unreserve apology and still deny their crime against humanity---for a start see what is in their history textbook.
There very much exists anti-German sentiment in Europe, including demands that Germany should pay more reparations to the countries it occupied. And holding a grudge for over 80 years when Japanese leaders have repeatedly apologised for the war crimes that their predecessors committed is the dictionary definition of unreasonable.
Just Google Japan apologies for WW2 and count how many times Japan has already repeatedly apologized. There are dozens already but Korean haters always say they're insincere since they want the hate going. Why not do a Google search of the war crimes committed by the South Korean army during the Vietnam war. There are still around 200 women alive today that were brutalized and raped still waiting for the South Korean government to apologize and to compensate them.
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Okay let's discuss your claims with more detail:
1. Most Japanese "apologies" in the past were always vague blanket statements (saying "we are sorry we did some bad things in the past" while rolling their eyes) and rarely mentioned what exactly they were apologizing about. The infamous 1965 Japan-Korea agreement (the one Japan always loves to mention) set legal grounds for Japan to never need to compensate or apologize for anything they did in history ever again. There was no real apology in this agreement- it was just hush money given to impoverished Korea in hopes that Koreans shut up about history forever. So legally: yes Japan doesn't have to do anything or apologize, but it didn't settle actual historical bad blood and probably worsened resentment (because there was no apology and just money).
2. The few specific apologies the government made were taken back, which is worse than not apologizing. The whole comfort women fight became worse in the previous years because Japan in 2015 specifically apologized to Korea for the comfort women issue (and also offered money), but just 3 weeks later Shinzo Abe confusingly declared that there was "zero evidence of forced comfort women" on their official documents, and said that he "have no intention of apologizing again." Since that reversal Japan never admitted guilt.
3. The Korean Supreme court (I believe this year) finally admitted that the army needs to compensate for victims in Vietnam, but the Korean army still denies fault. It's still not enough to right the wrongs committed by Korea, but it's still light-years better than Japan's dealing with history.
4. Whataboutism ("well they did bad things too!") is not a valid defense of their own actions, and the scale of Korean atrocities in Vietnam is way smaller than what the Koreans claimed the Japanese did to Koreans.
@@proof4469 If you had a problem with the 1965 agreement, why didn't you say so then? After all, it is up to Korea to decide whether to accept it or not. The Korean government at the time accepted it. If that is the case, then it is not the Japanese government that should complain, but the Korean government of the time.
With such inconsistent politics, it is natural to say that they just want money.
Koreans are completely ignorant of the war crimes committed by the ROK military during the Vietnam War. It is said that between 5,000 and 30,000 children were born as a result of rape by the Korean military, known as the "Lai Dai Han". Many other massacres were committed. There is no evidence that Korean women were forced to become comfort women other than their own testimonies, but the evidence of Korean military war crimes is actually alive.
Also, there has been no apology or compensation from the Korean side to Vietnam, while from the Japanese side, there have been dozens of apologies from the Emperor, the Prime Minister, the Chief Cabinet Secretary, and others. Also, the $500 million paid in 1965 is 4.5 trillion yen in today's value. Compensation has been paid many times since then, and 36 of the 46 surviving victims of the comfort women agreement have received compensation.
Is Korea's historical process light years ahead of Japan's? Stop telling lies. Objectively speaking, Korea's historical process has not advanced even a millimeter. Unlike Japan, it has not atoned for its sins at all. It is not even a debate whether atonement is sufficient or not.
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it basically south Korea and japan competition to be second place and whom will be leading partner for the usa.
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I enjoy modern Japan too, but I have to tell you what the Japanese did in East and Southeast Asia during World War 2 was A LOT WORSE than what the Turks did to the Armenians. A LOT WORSE. I have been to your country, by the way. It's beautiful.
The same.
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There is a Bronze statue of Japanese soldiers (native of Taiwan Island) in Indonesia, and many Japanese soldiers are buried in the graveyard of the hero. They were buried in Indonesia’s national cemetery by the hands of Indonesians. Japanese songs were sung at the parade of the Indonesian Declaration of Independence. When Their Majesties the Emperor and Empress of Japan visited Indonesia in the 1960s, they received a warm welcome (Those fans are super enthusiastic, aren't they?). There is a Kamikaze Attack Units memorial in the Philippines. In the Philippines to thunderous cheers and chants of "Nippon!, Nippon!". There is a memorial tower at the foothill of Maibam Lokpa Ching / Red Hill near Imphal (Manipur state). An Indian woman in the village of Mapao in the north of Imphal, compose a song in praise of Japanese soldier, and it has been sung for over 60 years. The Japanese flag is drawn on Cambodian banknotes. Palauans "Unlike Germans, the Japanese helped the Palauans." Jeep Island (Micronesia) in the Pacific Ocean is open to guests, but only Japanese people are permitted to visit. Azerbaijan issues free entry visa to only Japanese people.
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Not until Japan apologizes for their war time atrocities and paid an appropriate compensation
Let us take this opportunity also to highlight the role the USA played, specifically General MacArthur in promoting this historical scar. After the tokyo trials, as in Germany, many of the Japanese leaders should have been imprisoned and jailed. HOwever, unlilke in Germany, the USA was wary that this fascist Japanese government would be taken over by the socialist Japanese politicians and align Japan to the USSR. So, instead of punishing Japanese fascist WW2 leaders, General MacArthur freed many of them and allowed their juniors to inherit high positions in the Japanese government post world war. The result is a revisionist version of WW2 history as these new leaders try to downplay the role of their seniors played during WW2.
Had Japan been controlled by left wing and socilaist Japanese leaders post WW2, they would have advertised all the atrocities to the Japanese population committed by the previous fascist WW2 government. But MacArthur would not allow the left wing Japanese leaders to hold power because he feared Japan would align with USSR.
FYI, MacArthur had such dictatorial powers that the atomic bombing in Hiroshima was not allowed to be published in any newspaper in Japan until 1951. So information was very tightly controlled during the USA occupation of Japan.
Unit 731 which was a biological weapon research group was also granted immunity by MacArthur and their involvemnet kept a secret until decades later when a Japanese researcher exposed it. So again, you can see how the USA proactively tried to hide the atrocities commited by the Japanese government because they wanted this government to stay in power.
So thank you USA, the historical scar lives on! Because of this reason, I will never pick a fight with another Japanese over this. I undderstand a lot of WW2 information had historically been hidden and censored in Japan. I will be friend with any kind Japanese like how I treat any other country.
Unfortunately you're out of date. It was revealed in 2005 through declassified pre-democratization south korean documents that the Japanese did actually pay 2.5 billion USD (today's money) in reparations with the intention of paying victims directly, but the SK govt at the time insisted that they would do it - and they instead used the money for economic development. Secondly, there have been numerous apologies and statements of remorse, the argument is not whether JP has apologized, but to the degree of sincerity of the apology.
Japan had paid compensation to South Korea, but I doubt Japan would repent and apologize to its former colony.
My grandfather was kept in a nazi concentration camp for almost 2 years: if he forgave the Germans, everyone else can definitely do it. Emotions tied to the past must be buried in the past if we want the future to be brighter. Closer relations between the two nations could also help the japanese to be more open-minded about foreigners.
@@btlim4316 Thanks for the useful information
Obviously had nothing to do with the Imjin War and WW2. 😂
It makes no sense for the South Koreans to continue with this negative disposition towards the Japanese since most of the perpetrators have died and their victims too are dying. More Japanese and South Korean citizens these days are those who were born after the Second World War who did not experience the horrendous Japanese colonisation of the peninsula. Better that these two countries work together!
What is their too work together on? Lol
We already have robust trade ties
Japanese government defend, covering up, deny and distort their ancestors sins. Its not ignorance or doing nothing. They rather actively provoking Koreans and Chinese by doing that.
Of course, Yasukuni shrine at tokyo which has A-class war criminal is one of big proof.
would you say same to Europeans and Americans that 'it makes no sense for them to continue with this negative dispositions towards the germans' if germans built memorial for hitler in Berlin, wave Nazi flag and worship war criminals until today? I strongly doubt that.ㅣ
Lee Kuan Yew said he was nearly killed by the ruthless Japanese soldiers.
It doesn't make sense to divide over the past when you are attacked by two crazy neighbors now. When that issue is solved, you can argue or whatever later.
As korean I can summarize in one sentense
'When you have strong grudges toward your neighbor you are gonna think your neighbor is your enemy whatever happens'
@@user-if9vb4gi3l I am Korean too. That's why I am not stupid enough to take Chinese bait and become their dinner on a frying pan.
WW2 happens
What crazy neighbors are you talking about?
North Korea only built nukes because the US labelled it one of the countries in the axis of evil just before it invaded Iraq and slaughtered almost 1 million Iraqis.
An illegal war, invasion and occupation in which both Japan and South Korea sent troops, took part in and participated in helping the US.
A few years later the US did the same to Libya after Qadafi gave up his weapons of mass destruction.
US OFFICIAL policy is the destruction of North Korea as a state.
Every single Year US and South Korean troops participate in extensive military exercises in which they practice on amilitary invasion and reunification of North Korea by force.
North Korea conventional military power is not enough deter the US and the ROK that is why they felt the urgent need to build a nuclear component to deter the US.
All North Koreans who have fled to the South are treated like third class citizens.
They are all treated like crap by South Koreans and are discriminated in ever area of South Korean society.
So what future would North Korean have under South Korean rule and American occupation other than complete subjugation, servitude and utter humiliation.
Look at how East Germans were treated by West Germany.
They were treated with utter contempt and completely humiliated and subjugated. Their entire country was auctioned, all their industries were privatized or shut down, millions of them were laid off. They were told they were stupid and backwards and worthless.
North Koreans might be poor, but they are a proud people.
And in regards to China.
China has no territorial disputes with South Korea.
China wants good relations with South Korea.
China has never ever attempted to invade Japan in it's entire 4000 years of recorded history, except when it was under Mongol rule.
China has absolutely no desire to attack or harm Japan in any way.
Japan is the one who wants to join the United States to militarily interfer in Chinas civil war between the People's Republic of China and the Republic of China.
I means it’s really just North Korea that’s crazy. China and SK are huge trade partners lmao. Sure they might be an enemy but far from crazy
One thing straight.. geologically South Korea is connected from NK and Russia.
NK is a dwarf state of mainland CCP. What the statistics will show up?
You never know how S.Korean will react.
What are the roots of South Korean animosity towards Japanese? Let’s see here… WORLD WAR TWO might have something to do with it. In Korea’s case, it might even go back as far as 1910 when Japan first tried occupying the entire Korean Peninsula, but how the Japanese occupation forces, the Japanese army in particular, treated the Koreans during that time… 1895 to 1945… is almost certainly the root cause.
Good insight. But nowadays, Denial of history and Claiming Dokdo for Japanese territory is the really reason of Anger
You can even go back to 1592 with the imjin war too.
@@chipe123o4then back to the mongol, Korea, china invasion of Japan in the 1100-1200. So much history together
I am a South Korean. I do not feel much about what Japan did before Aug. 15th, 1945. Japan paid dearly for their stupid choice. And Japan 'paid' money to Korea in the 1960s. I think the anti-Japanese sentiment here is a little bit silly since it is based on the things before Aug. 15th, 1945.
But I regret what they did AFTER that time. They let more than 100 K (NK sympathizing) Korean residents move to North Korea. They had been very sloppy with regard to the NK spies in Japan. They unilaterally shrinked territorial water in four channels, making Chinese and Russian(USSR) ships and submarines freely hang around here.
Japan seems to have preferred a really multi-polar order, where China and Russia(USSR) have strong influence, making the US need Japan desperately. Japan seems to have imagined the revival of 'Japan as a regional hegemon'.
일본을 싫어해야 먹고사는 민주당 혐한으로 먹고사는 자민당 내 극우 revisionist들 짓이지 뭐 반일은 비지니스다
how pathetic
I remember a quote from our former president Elpidio Quirino when he released the Japanese war prisoners,
"I should be the last one to pardon them as the Japanese killed my wife and three children and five other members of the family. I am doing this because I do not want my children and my people to inherit from my hate for people who might yet be our friends for the permanent interest of the country. After all, destiny has made us neighbors."
weak
@@daeseongkim93ur ass nearly got kicked without th3 help of Uncle Sam.
Weak AF
Why did you try to blame koreans in this?
weeak mind and soul
Korea was colonized and discriminated against by Japan. It will take another 50 years for Koreans to forget their humiliation of occupation.
Because people are still bitter about the past. It happens. Japan has done and still does do some shady stuff regarding its history. Unfortunately so does the United States. And even South Korea.
But getting over it or resolving the underlying tensions cannot be solved by staying at arms length or holding a grudge. And there is an underlying calculous that needs to be worked through. Are you worried more about Japan not apologizing about atrocities almost a century ago or China trying to expand its hegemony and potentially become the next Imperialist power?
I mean, you can worry about both at the same time. Nations are large and made up of lots of people who are all perfectly capable of multitasking. However, stuff on this level is worth considering which takes precedence.
In my personal opinion, strengthening national security through closer relations with Japan is worth the slight ding to national pride.
I don't think the US has ever apologized to Vietnam for the brutality it inflicted or stuff like agent orange, etc. . or even the 3 million + vietnamese killed. . but the two are eagerly building ties in the face of Chinese aggression and expansionism.
I thought they did considering many Vietnamese already forgave America.
@@rabbidcrazy787 Not to my knowledge, no.
The US doesn't make a habit of apologizing and any time it does, it's usually controversial and almost akin to pulling teeth.
My understanding is Vietnam has never really hated the US even after the Vietnam War. It was never about the US or even the French. Vietnam has been attacked and occupied many times throughout its history. The US and French are only tiny blips on that timeline especially when compared to the significantly longer tensions with China. Most of Vietnam's history is being attacked by China or states in territory that would become China.
@@Mahbu They apologized to Hawaii after what happened in the late 1890s. Does that not count?
@@rabbidcrazy787 It's not that they never do it. It's infrequent. The US military raped 14,000 women while liberating the UK, France, and invading Germany (some historians believe the true number is as high as 190,000). The bombing genocide in Cambodia as well as the genocides in Bangladesh, Indonesia, etc. Destabilizing countries funding revolts... lather, rinse, repeat. I'm not aware of any apologies. Technically, Japan has apologized 54x (based on a list on Wikipedia) regarding WW2. Like Vietnam has with the USA, most countries (Taiwan, Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand) have forgiven Japan after accepting reparations. Maybe those countries gave the money to the people (Korea gave it to the chaebols).
I'm so happy to see that our neighbours see the danger ahead, reunited is to aim peace in the region of East Asia and South East Asia despite differences and reluctant of the past. Can be healed accordingly and brought harmony,strength and prosperity.
they are reunited as one to gain peace. a world peace rather.
The only danger is the US playing conflicts. There will be a real peace when the Japan actually admit their guilt and stop changing the truth of their sin. They did chop heads (chinese/koreans) as a military sport competition for fun. Additionally, the Japan armies did kidnapp women in China / Korea and forced them to provide japanese soldier for sex services.
There is a freaking reason why Japan has been restricted from having their own military nowadays.
Perhaps you should read and learn the h istroy before commenting your stupidology
nato is bad
what danger ahead ? korea was unite with china back in times, china even help korea when japan invaded them. and now japan want to unite with korea against china , an enemy that never exist? go look back the ancient history of china with japan and korea, they have feuds and also have trades and communications in different eras and everything change when the west came. whos the enemy :) everyone know , pro claim china as a threat in EAST asia when they did not even invade a single country other than border issue. go look at the map, china is surrounded by NATO and korea and japan and the whole US army in SEA, who is the threat ? so people raise their military budget suddenly they become a threat :/ and china did not even behave like russia did to ukraine :) but everyone claim china will attack japan, korea , taiwan by force one day from few years back. and is 2024 today, china is doing business with 130++ countries but people take this personally like is invasion or another form of colonisation. utter bullshyt, i am not even from china i am from malaysia and is not even that hard to understand the situation. When u trying to be nice and expand ur influences with soft power people take it so seriously like u actually invaded them with products/media/companies but the fact is why are u so dumb to take out few hundred billions from your country to help people when people dont appreciate you at all ? so what if u destroy china with unity of japan korea usa philipines uk australia ? whats next ? US continue to take over the world ? continue to sell weapons to every part of the world ? continue to invade and claim whoever they invade as terrorist ? i rather have two three superpowers to neutralize each other than only US being on top solely. UK is a good example of what happened if u are too powerful end up they lost to their innerself the USA. and now UK behave like a little brothers to USA. no one is challenging USA is just another form of COMMUNISM , the system u lads hate china from the first place because they are not democracy country LOLOLOL.
As a Korean, I would like to share my perspective on this issue. Japan has apologized on multiple occasions and has contributed significantly, including financial aid, to help rebuild South Korea's economy post-Korean War. However, the South Korean left-wing media often distorts these facts, perpetuating the narrative that Japan's apologies lack sincerity. A notable example is the incident involving Yoon Mihyang, a South Korean politician. She claimed to be advocating against Japan on behalf of Korean comfort women but instead misappropriated the funds Japan provided as compensation for these women, using it for personal gain. While the right wing acknowledges Japan's support and seeks to move past historical grievances, the left appears to exploit these issues, using Japan as a means to line the pockets of politicians.
As a geopolitical observer i find it weird that there is an opposition to closer ties with japan as SK is surrounded by "enemies" NK and china who will gladly cut off exports and even if japan is neutral its too hard to export without significant cost to gov. ( by guarding ships with military ships) .. do tell me why?
As a Korean, I simply disagree with you.
@@user-bg1bo9wq6g As a geopolitical observer i find it weird that there is an opposition to closer ties with japan as SK is surrounded by "enemies" NK and china who will gladly cut off exports and even if japan is neutral its too hard to export without significant cost to gov. ( by guarding ships with military ships) .. do tell me why?
Japanese right wing media said Korean comfort women are military hookers…bro，Japan government claims Dokdo belongs with Japan.
As an historian with pride and dignity once called U may "forgive but not forgot"
WOULD YOU WANT CLOSER TIES WITH YOUR FORMER R PIST?
The amount of people opposed to Japan in Korea is very small and only getting smaller each passing year.
As a korean, I hope so, i'm getting sick of this right-wing nationalistic behaviors from both sides
Well I don't think so.
To make amount of people against japan become minority probably takes another 20 years
I've just been from Osaka last week. Most Asian tourists I have seen are either Korean or Chinese 😂
very poor personal anecdotal evidence, most of those asian tourists are females i bet too@@mkt-7
im getting sick of those japanese ultranationalists wartime denialists@@volgg
Just Exactly In the Tokyo Olympics , When SK team putting a banner in the athlete village that so provocative and contain a political sentiment which IOC order them to take it down
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The South Koreans should forget their past and move on. A close ties with Japan is necessary to contain the rising Chinese threat across the globe. Don't forget when the West and USSR worked together and fought Nazis, despite both disliked each other. Have you ever heard of the enemy of my enemy is my friend?
The inability of Korea, China, and Japan to forgive one another is holding East Asia back. Imagine what the EU would be like if the Brits and the French continue to hate the Germans and the Italians. Never forget the past, learn from it, but learn to forgive.
Then you need to understand why the animosity still lives on. First Germans behaved accordingly against French and Brits soldiers in WW2, second Germany have acknowledged the war crimes they commited both in the west europe and russia. Meanwhile Japanese soldiers acted with utmost barbarity against Chinese and Koreans (in korea case, they had to endured Japan invasions and cruelty TWICE), and Japan still idolized their war criminals and hide the truth in their school.
It's going to be difficult when Japanese government continue to deny their war crimes and instead idolize war criminals as national heroes. As a matter of fact, due to their efforts to conceal the truth, most Japanese have no clue what happened during WWII and instead think of themselves as the victim. The past wrongdoing should not be forced upon current generation, but at least they must learn the truth so the horrible history never repeats itself. How can we prevent that from happening when nobody remembers? That is where the tension is coming from mostly.
You do realize that there is still hate between the UK and the Germans right? And also didn’t the UK leave the EU a while ago?
^^ this@@harukrentz435
Easy for you to say. Most Nazis have been captured and convicted. How many Japanese war criminals have been tried and convicted?
今の韓国の大統領だと日本と韓国の関係良くなりそうだけどな。中々難しいのかな〜どんな国とも仲良くした方がいいけどね
한국과 일본관계를 악화시키는것은 미국 유대인 엘리트입니다. 그들은 앞에서는 서로 친하게 지내라고 말하고, 뒤에서는 싸움을 유도합니다. 한국과 일본의 정치인들 또한 마찬가지입니다. 미국이 진짜로 동맹이라고 생각하는 국가는 five eyes 이외에 없습니다. (앵글로색슨인종) 한국,중국,일본은 뭉쳐야 합니다. 하지만 이들 모두는 미국 엘리트 유대인이 아주 잘 분할적으로 컨트롤하고 있습니다.
@@QWER-wv5knI’m sorry, but the Chinese Communist Party makes it very difficult to be likeable. Maybe after they change their government perhaps.
*Japan didn't not apologize to korean woman girls and men during war and usa is only using them!!!!!!*
과거 우리나라에 있었던 모든 비극에 대해 알고있습니다.
나는 해병대 병으로 전역한 한국인으로서 비슷한 일이 일어난다면 싸울것이다.
그런데 과연 "맹목적인 반일이 대한민국의 국익에 도움이 되는가?" 라는 질문에 대답은 NO다.
As an Asian American, I don’t like seeing my Asian people fight amongst each other😢All of Asia should unite and become stronger together 🫡🔥
LOL The world is not Disney movie... Every continent has conflicts or issues. This " Unite " thing is will never work. People will cooperate and coexist next to eachother but tribalism will always live on everywhere.
The history of Imperial Japan in Asia is poorly understood by most Americans. There is much to learn about why their Asian neighbors are wary of them.
I suggest reading Korean American author Linda Sue Park's book about this time from the perspective of a Korean family. It is a well researched fictional story written for young adults. The title is ''When My Name Was Keoko''.
I understand and admire your hope for peace of whole asia but i guess its not that simple. Simple covering up can work sometimes but can be worse situation too.
They literally US lackey. Their economy heavily rely on US and Europe. A single ban treatment and they'll collapse. They just needs to do what they're told and everything gonna be good.
@@peoples-fr4uy 한국분이신가요? 기존 댓글은 아시아계 미국인이라고만 했지 동남아시아라는 언급은 없는데 굳이 이런 댓글을 남기실 필요는 없을 것 같습니다.
Forget the ties with Korea, what Japan need to do is to teach proper history to their children.
I remember reading a news article about 10 years ago where Stanford U did a comparison study of history textbooks in China, Japan and Korea. Their conclusion: Japan was the least biased among the three.
@@ZDHoo source?
@@beans11138 i think he saw the Daniel Sneider 2013 Textbooks and Patriotic Education: Wartime Memory Formation in China and Japan. However, from reading the study, it states how japanese textbook are relatively unbiased on promoting patriotism but thats in constrast to China. A communist country that is willing to brainwash their citizen if they need to. I think it is okay of a study but it should be compared to German or even UK's textbook if needed to seem somewhat fair for them to showcase how much they teach.
私は教えられましたけど？？貴方は日本で教育を受けたことがなく、おかしなインターネットの情報を受け取るだけだから間違えている。
@@ZDHoomaybe on terms of maybe maths or idk but certainly not history. There is a youtuber who interviews japanese people and like 90% didnt know what happened in ww2 as in they literally had no clue what happened besides atom bombs.
if i cannot then i have to go the sacramento recruitment center first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!then the rurcuemtnet cneter willl tkaek the sacnrnemtnto base to the asvab because icannnot go drecitly to the base myself.........
I thought all Asians got along lol.
Back to 2013, a Chinese fella who has participated in the rescue of Japanese people in the 311 earthquake in Japan, throw molotovs on Yasukini, then he went to Korea and burned Japanese Embassy, because Noda Yoshihiko refused to apologize for the IJA "comfort women" issue.
Korea government refused Japan's extradition request. make sure he can back to home.
He is not an irrational hater.his grandmother was from Pyongyang, a "comfort woman" kidnapped by the Japanese army, and his father was an officer in the Chinese army.
Japan really owes the world an apology.
His name is Liu Qiang.
You don’t hear Whites apologizing for their crimes so stfu.
当中日韩要开始加强关系的时候总会有这种小丑出来作祟，钓鱼岛也是如此，想一想背后的原因
Japan has apologized enough Dotn be blind for the black pages in Korea's and Chinese history because there is plenty. Including comfort women created by the koreans in vietnam. Hypocrisy is endless in Korea and China. It is pathetic.
@@therisno4983what comfort women, give a source because the only sources i found were prove of korean soldiers making use of prostitution which is not the same as comfort women.
With a neighbour like Northkorea and China you need some ‘friends’ for protection against them.
You live in fantasy land
Isn't South Korea depended China for trade ? Its not wise to treat the biggest customer as an enemy.
this is dumb, almost all of asia is dependent to a large extent on Chinese trade. Japan included. 75-80% of trade is China. thats like shooting yourself in the foot. the u.s. tries to influence in the region with notions of decoupling from the Chinese economy, but this is just unrealistic. the u.s. is a world away trying to be an interventionalist. north korea is a non-issue, its threats are to attract world attentions spotlight on it, maintain relevance, promote security and regime survival. its all posturing from the north, any attack on the south dashes any chances for reunification with south korea, and itd be suicidal given Seoul and their capital, Pyongyang is literally only 50 miles away. nuclear fallout for them would be just as devastating as itd be for the south, no one would survive. realism posits all states as rational self-interested actors. the norths interest is preservation of the kim dynasty, thats simply it.
@@DreamyCheshire-up9rf yh china exports the most to taiwan and s.korea but same can be said about how much dependent china is for usa.
@@babo_p2215 True, but USA has recently trying its best to decouple or de-risk trades with China. In fact, trade wars, chip wars and high tech wars are still on going except bond war. China hasn't dumped its over 800 billion worth of US bond into the market yet, though it isn't buying anymore. In a way, USA, the customer depended on China for its financial stability. But it would come a time when the customer need to pay up for goods/services purchased or faced bankruptcy.
korean is friend with benefit - ing japan lol
Don't forget WW2
who attacked japan answer the usa but unfortunately japnese are still with usa
Pearl Harbour did not exist right?
No, the question is … who attacked the United States? Oh, right, that was Japan. Fortunately, the United States moved on.
It’s like asking help from your abusive ex to deal with crazy neighbors
Japan was more like a neighborhood thug who raped Korea and never got punished and never wanted to apologize.
Not really, it's like asking for help from someone whose grandfather killed a part of your family, whose current generation doesn't want to apologise for it. But at the same time has worked closely with you, while another family that has done the same, but further in the past is becoming more hostile.
Sometimes, you have to step beyond shadows for things to make sense
@@martijnkoning3354 Japan did not apologize for the war crimes in WW2. They even honored those people, not even acknowledging that they have done it.
@davidT.C that's what I said
@@martijnkoning3354That is nonsensical. Why would you apologize for something you yourself had nothing to do with?
As a half Japanese half Spaniard. Why would I feel any responsibility for the heinous acts of several generations past?
Their sins died with them if they every committed any. That is why nobody can move on and politicians use these opportunities to gain votes and support to win elections. This happens in many countries that used to be “colonies”. I thought South Korea due to its great development and reconstruction after the wars made its society tougher. But seems like I was partially wrong.
China propaganda 😮❓
I even wonder whether you are a CIA bot or a NED agent? 😂😂😂
The fact that some people go out of their way to protest Japan's release of treated water into the Pacific, while being silent when countries like China have been doing it for decades and at a much higher rate, speaks volumes...
Where is your proof or you just hear your grandma babbled
The South Korean left sees the North as a short-term problem and Japan as a long-term problem. North Korea is just a wayward brother, we are of the same blood, same people, same language, same culture. Japan is the other, and will realistically never want to see Korean unification as it endangers their hold on the sizable Zainichi Korean population within their own country as well as the security of their nation, if the Koreans were ever united. There is long historical bad blood on the peninsula of the Japanese savagery during the Imjin War, as the Wukou pirates, during colonization in the late 19th and early 20th century up until the end of the Second World War. The Japanese can be partially blamed for the division of the two Koreas as well. Japan purposely built Korea with the North being more industrial while the South being more agricultural, it left a brutal apparatus with its collaborationist (chinilpa) authorities leading the South after the war, ostracizing true Korean patriots and nationalists in the South and pushing more popular support to the North after the war (in the same vein that the South Vietnamese leader was generally unpopular for being brutal and collaborationist with the foreign French and American colonialists) while the North Vietnamese leader was popular for championing Vietnamese nationalism and anti-imperialism). The Japanese had wrongfully destroyed many of the temples, forts, castles, and palaces throughout the Korean peninsula, many of the historical sites you see today in South Korea are mere recreations rebuilt after the Korean War up until the 1990s. Gyeongbokgung Palace, the main palace in Seoul for the ancient Korean kings was a recreation rebuilt from around 30-40 years ago because the original was burned down by the Japanese invaders, replaced with an ugly brick Japanese Governor-General of Korea colonial administration building for much of the 20th century. Many elders still remember being forced to assimilate with the Japanese, removing their Korean names and adopting Japanese ones, being educated in Japanese, purging the Korean language and religion (converting those to Shintoism). It was very disgusting history especially the comfort women issue and wartime laborers. North Korea has only existed 73 years, before that Korea was unified for hundreds of years, the division is just a tiny fraction of Korean history.
Koreans attempted to attack invade Japan multiple times during it's hsitory but failed as well. Every country on the planet has done something when you look back far enough. That is the reality of this world and humanity. Korea is not free from that. Korea should look at their own past transgressions for once, Korea is a hypocritical country, creating the Lai Đại Hàn in VIetnam, the Vietnamese comfort women after WW2, before you open your mouth about Japan. Or maybe just look towards the future instead of playing the eternal victim. It is pathetic and laughable. BUt I guess that is what we can expect from a society that cannot even tand their own face and alters it from a young age through plastic surgery. a country of endless shame.
@@therisno4983 You had somewhat of a point, until you couldn't help posting your hate towards Koreans at the end.
Not to mention, your entire post is just a huge wall of red-herring with whataboutism.
Pathetic post.
Good post with a breadth of context. People should really read this to get some perspective.
Good thing for Korea, Korea is more advanced country. The Korean people do what they like.
Amazing unbiased reporting, thank you
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I DON'T GER BUT DON'T BLEWIT ME🥶🥶🥶
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MY LIFE MY LULS🥶🥶🥶
MY STYLE MY ATIDIUR🥶🥶🥶
YOU LOVE ME OR HURT ME🥶🥶🥶
I DON'T GER BUT DON'T BLEWIT ME🥶🥶🥶@@ihatecabbage7270
中国不需要宣传！ 历史永远铭记在中国的每一个人心中..还需要宣传？
Other neighbor the PRC today offers North Korea as a sample. You want that?
JUSTICE FOR LAI DAI HAN, SHAME ON SOUTH TTONGSUL LAND
Between 1964 and 1973, some 320,000 South Korean soldiers were deployed to Vietnam to fight alongside the United States, and rape, as well as other acts of sexual violence, were committed against Vietnamese civilians by South Korean combatants throughout the War.
Justice comes with power. If you don't have power, there is no justice
@@KuopassaTv
What comes with power is not 'Justice' but the birth of 'Self Righteous Bastards' like USA
US, UK, France, Russia, Germany, China, South Korea, Japan = all of them committed rape during war but Japan is on a different scale though
@@KuopassaTv aka might makes right
vietcong recruited vietnamese civilians and used them as shield. the same vietcong civilians fought and killed S.korean army. if they want justice they should ask vietnamese communist gov