The hilarious part is I know how to grow a giant pumpkin irl but not in game lol (no one tell me please! I’m having so much fun playing this for the first time, and figuring things out is part of my fun..! Ty!)
The best fall crop is strawberries, the best summer crop is strawberries, the best winter crop is strawberries, the best spring crop is strawberries. All hail our strawberry overlord
@@Code_Lune allergies. my guess is gus secretly eliminated every recipe that could be made with strawberries so that if he was ever handed them as a fruit jam or wine it would be easy to avoid them since he would be poisoned by them. its only recently that maru and dem have been scientifically examining them that possibly using them in chemistry might be a use for them. since cooking is a kind of chemistry we all know what will soon happen.
I'm pretty sure we all understand that cranberries are just more convenient you never have to replant them for the entire season and just grab some sprinklers don't have to water and you don't have to plant anymore the rest of the season unlike those pumpkins
sure, but most of those points barely hold up in comparison. Sprinklers? they benefit both. dont need to replant? is 1-3 harvests really worth the small headache of replanting (at least until you become stubborn with seed makers. *sarcasm* tooootally not projecting). Both have benefits, but replanting is countered by harvesting, with cranberries taking more time to harvest overall, exponentially increasing with yield.
@@cullenlatham2366i think their point was that it has a higher rate of profit because you only need to buy the seeds once as opposed to pumpkins whwre you have to eat into the money you made to buy the seeds twice a season
@@viperreal9184 and i am not denying that point, even if it doesnt show the full picture. I was pointing out the "contradictions" and the equivalent factor on the other side to show the difference is much smaller than it first appears. Heck, if we are talking exclusively about profit and the cost of replanting, then we also need to consider the extra yield of mega crops making up for, at least in part, needing to re-buy seeds with the profit from the harvest, even more so when the farm is built around the pattern in which mega crops grow. And again, someone as stubborn as me might not even "re-buy" seeds once seed makers enter the equation, which only makes matters more complicated as you trade a monetary profit cut for a time deficit. The first time restocking seeds will be the worst, but after converting an entire harvest into seeds, you likely already have a full field's worth of backup seeds ready, and continuing the cycle only requires breaking down half or less of the next harvest (in part decided by "failure" luck and just how big your stockpile already is). The time deficit is somewhat offset by the fact where you can prepare the next set of seeds while the current one is growing, but that wont realistically happen until the 3rd harvest in a cycle of building up the stockpile.
Consider: Salmence makes a lot of videos for casual players, not speedrunners. Perhaps pumpkins are good for making money if you're needing a "lot" (by early game standards) very quickly, but from a casual perspective, it's easy to set up cranberries with sprinklers and preserves jars to make lots and lots over time, with very little upkeep necessary. I'm just saying, it might not be an either or situation
exactly! cranberries also make it way easier to save up crops to use in winter and make a better harvest noise. but pumpkins are very satisfying to sell
I was worried this was gonna be serious beef! So happy to see some of my favorite Stardew TH-camrs having fun together. ❤ And now we've got something besides mushrooms vs bats to argue about lol.
poor seanie got no points for pumpkin soup being a highly valuable skull cavern food (its not all that hard to befriend robin while befriending linus anyway). it stacks with triple expresso/garlic potion and presents 1 more luck than spicy eel. also since cows are mega easy to get in your standard run its incredibly easy to make T_T also there should be points awarded for pumpkins being one of the 3 coveted giant crops that expert stardew valley farm designers almost always have on display. but nearly no one seriously uses cranberries as a design theme.
On No!! Personally I prefer pumpkins. They're just so pretty. ❤ I'll finish watching later, so I have no idea how this Shakespeare in the Park plays out!
the way THE WAY Ive been avoiding this video like the plague for MONTHS because i hate drama and FINALLY got the courage to click on it ONLY TO FIND OUT THERE IS NO DRAMA ????? Whats the oposite of a clickbait video title? Bc i think i found it for ppl who hate drama at least 😭😭
insanely unrelated but engagement is engagement but where do you buy your button downs from they always have such nice patterns (mainly asking about the first one you have here but also if you get them all from like the same place. 👀) anyway big fan of your content love to see youtuber drama 👍
6:50 hello my name is Fedo and I would like you to know that, based on my own personal experience, stopping Pam in the bus station screen to make her walk faster actually makes her take a bit more time than she would if she just walks there normally because it's a very short distance and she doesn't get that much of a speed boost for it to be worth it there
Real drama in the fandom is between the creator of Stardew valley expanded and a bunch of other modders, ending in one huge call out tumblr post from a popular modder, saying the SVE creator was stealing assets from other mods and that discord and nexus moderators were giving special treatment. Then we get one big explanation post from the SVE creator basically saying, nope none of that is true 🙅 turns out they were compatibility patches 👁️👄👁️. That was the drama of 2020.
I've been dreading watching this video, and have put it off for weeks because I like the both of you and I was afraid it was real drama. Boy am I relieved lol.
See, actually with the mill, beets and wheat are more profitable than either crop (more so if you have deluxe speed gro + agriculturalist; beets take only 3 days and wheat takes 2; the gold per day is much higher). The problem is in Fall year 1 do you want to be planting/harvesting every few days when there are prismatic slimes or ectoplasms to find?
bruh, like seanie said, you would need ten bazillion preserve jars to make cranberries worth it, and the resources are just too expensive. pumpkins and kegs are so much better by a LONG SHOT
I prefer cranberries just because I play with friends and they take the game far more casually than me, and cranberries fits our combined play style. Plus I like to diversify income with different machines, and I usually do not have enough kegs or jars to process everything, and cranberries just provide consistent, frequent income. On solo playthroughs I do pumpkins. If I do not reach 500k by summer for my pumpkin empire I'm not playing right
honestly with the green grass I would've given Sal's shed a 10/10. For someone who "can't design" he really nailed it. Using roe on the signs instead of cranberries was also a nice touch, but I wouldn't have noticed if he didn't say so in the pinned comment.
Seanie. Seanie. i must know. this is a very important question. where. do. you. get. your. shirts. Especially this strawberry shirt. i absolutely love it!
could someone please tell me the name of the song at approximately 1:08? I'm guessing it's from Persona but can't remember the title no matter how hard I try😭
I love crops that require you to not have to replant them. Hence why end game wise..its anticent fruit for me vs starfruit. Or at least end game for the mid-way yes Starfruit and maybe first year if you're a competitive gamer.
Im still picking cranberries, cause the junimos pick them and i pop them in preserve jars throight the year when im board and have nothing else for the jars
Here is a competition based on three categories: 1. cranberry advantage 2. pumpkin advantage 3. not profit, oh no, we are going to do....... decorating..... of which nobody has an advantage, but this is stardew, and we are all subject to our own desires, which favors.... you... the viewer..... for clickbait..... dang...
in the first challenge, it was for a way to get milk for pumpkin soup without having to build a barn and raise a cow. in the second challenge, i think seanie was also trying to get it for soup? pumpkin soup is one of sebastian's loved gifts, and his birthday's in midwinter, so it would be a nice way to get hearts. timing just didn't work out. that or mr. dew was just stuck in milk mode, you never really know with this man :P
Sandy will give you milk when you talk to her sometimes! (Apparently specifically on Saturdays, which I didn't know). Seanie was relying on that gifted milk rather than gathering resources and money for a barn and a cow. :)
you are both right and wrong: in first year, cranberries are better option because you gotta finish that greenhouse first (you must already completed the quality bundle with parsnips, melons and corn, so pumpkins are not really necessary except for one) And cranberries can grow faster with speed fertilizer plus they regrow unlike pumpkins. If you played your cards right, you will had a lot of money from summer and a lot of farming experience from spring. But after first year, pumpkins are a better option. Also you need to get the pig before winter comes for first year community center
Can someone PLEASE tell me why clay farming DOES NOT work on Xbox version of stardew valley?! I’ve tried clay farming for 5 days in a row and everytime I destroy the beach for like 5 clay, and I’m using the 6,4,6,4,1,1 strat
I'm just here to cause trouble. Also to this day nobody has noticed that I put fish roe on the signs, not cranberries teehee
How did you get away with this and it looks better this way
you absolute rapscallion
Sal you better get that ukulele warmed up.
I can't believe I only noticed after you pointed it out 💀
I feel like that forfeits you the point
I love how the beef was between how much money the two crops could make and none of the challenges had anything to do with money.
True friendship. Bicker over the goofiest of things c:
It’s just Food Battle but in stardew valley and without a pink frosted sprinkled donut
And if it did it would have been thrown out the window with the 999 pumpkins to 999 cranberries lol
@@ozylocz4078but you get way more cranberries than pumpkins!
@@ozylocz4078 I expected more like who could make the most money in one season using their crop (but are allowed to use machines, cooking etc)
Y'all forgot the most compelling argument for pumpkins-GIANT pumpkin.
I love me a giant pumpkin but I don’t have enough self control to not pick a fresh ripe pumpkin
The hilarious part is I know how to grow a giant pumpkin irl but not in game lol (no one tell me please! I’m having so much fun playing this for the first time, and figuring things out is part of my fun..! Ty!)
@@thefudgems3x3 grid of pumpkins has a chance to grow into a giant pumpkins if the middle one is fully grown and watered
@@Noob-master69 ☹️
@@Noob-master69dude…
"Yes, kids, I was there for the cranberrygate of 2023"
- Me telling this epic story to my grandchildren
dont forget to hand them a secret steam code to stardew valley that they will inherit after you pass away ^_^
The best fall crop is strawberries, the best summer crop is strawberries, the best winter crop is strawberries, the best spring crop is strawberries. All hail our strawberry overlord
Maru and Demetrius would agree
Despite being powerful, why aren’t they used in any dishes???
@@Code_Lune they cannot be contained
@@Code_Lune allergies. my guess is gus secretly eliminated every recipe that could be made with strawberries so that if he was ever handed them as a fruit jam or wine it would be easy to avoid them since he would be poisoned by them. its only recently that maru and dem have been scientifically examining them that possibly using them in chemistry might be a use for them. since cooking is a kind of chemistry we all know what will soon happen.
@@Code_Lune If they were to be combined into food, their raw energy would be unleashed and wreak devastation through the land
this is the most insane drama the stardew community has ever experienced
as a average sv player, i agree
Let’s keep it that way 😂
things are heating up in the Stardew Valley community
@@mothknight7050I’ve never related to anything said more than this
Not the part where the game used to "violate the Geneva Convention"? 🤭
im not even sorry, "johnny be nimble be slurping down candles" is the most incredible improv ive ever heard
that one got me too, i had to pause the video and realize what reference just came out of that dudes mouth. so funny 💀
I'm just happy that this is considered the most intense drama that the Stardew Valley community has gotten so far.
Z :(
@@aaronchambers8864what happened?
@vereli there was a youtuber named unsurpassablez, he basically didn't listen to his community when one of his discord moderators was abusing power.
@@aaronchambers8864 whatt wheres the source for this
@@aaronchambers8864 I know! I'm glad most of the community has basically forgotten though
The Stardew community used to be so wholesome and now it's just horrible drama 😢 How the times change
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You really thought this is big bad drama don't make something ok hunny
@@Mr.happy689r/whoooosh
@@strogonoffcore ?
@@Mr.happy689it was a joke
not me being worried that my two favorite sdv youtubers were actually fighting 😭
You and I dude , I feel that to
@@Rain_.Dr0ps5 I WAS SO SCARED DJDJDJ
Literally me. I was dreading clicking this video and finding out one of them had done something terrible. ;_;
huh yeah something like that would never happen right...
i know, i almost didn’t want to watch it 😬
I was born in wisconsin, which is apparently the cranberry state, so naturally I’m on seanie’s side about how pumpkins are better
Same, cranberries are kinda nasty, not sorry
Hey im from wisco too! Theres a cranberry farm not too far away from my parents
@@splendidsimp ooh nifty :O
@@milkyteadrops yea i only really like them dried
I love how this comment section is filled with people from Wisconsin (including me)
i was genuinely scared that there was another controversy surrounding someone i watch all the time
ME TOOO AHSJAHAGQAA
same and i’m so glad it was this
Sal's shed was so pretty. Real goal maker for shed design. Yours was very spooky and pumpkin
Also it might just be a me thing but I was really bothered by how like 40% of the shed was basically pitch black
I'm pretty sure we all understand that cranberries are just more convenient you never have to replant them for the entire season and just grab some sprinklers don't have to water and you don't have to plant anymore the rest of the season unlike those pumpkins
sure, but most of those points barely hold up in comparison. Sprinklers? they benefit both. dont need to replant? is 1-3 harvests really worth the small headache of replanting (at least until you become stubborn with seed makers. *sarcasm* tooootally not projecting). Both have benefits, but replanting is countered by harvesting, with cranberries taking more time to harvest overall, exponentially increasing with yield.
@@cullenlatham2366 For casual players replanting is a really big downside
@@cullenlatham2366i think their point was that it has a higher rate of profit because you only need to buy the seeds once as opposed to pumpkins whwre you have to eat into the money you made to buy the seeds twice a season
@@viperreal9184 and i am not denying that point, even if it doesnt show the full picture. I was pointing out the "contradictions" and the equivalent factor on the other side to show the difference is much smaller than it first appears. Heck, if we are talking exclusively about profit and the cost of replanting, then we also need to consider the extra yield of mega crops making up for, at least in part, needing to re-buy seeds with the profit from the harvest, even more so when the farm is built around the pattern in which mega crops grow.
And again, someone as stubborn as me might not even "re-buy" seeds once seed makers enter the equation, which only makes matters more complicated as you trade a monetary profit cut for a time deficit. The first time restocking seeds will be the worst, but after converting an entire harvest into seeds, you likely already have a full field's worth of backup seeds ready, and continuing the cycle only requires breaking down half or less of the next harvest (in part decided by "failure" luck and just how big your stockpile already is). The time deficit is somewhat offset by the fact where you can prepare the next set of seeds while the current one is growing, but that wont realistically happen until the 3rd harvest in a cycle of building up the stockpile.
they make the better harvesting noise and that’s ultimately the most important
Consider: Salmence makes a lot of videos for casual players, not speedrunners. Perhaps pumpkins are good for making money if you're needing a "lot" (by early game standards) very quickly, but from a casual perspective, it's easy to set up cranberries with sprinklers and preserves jars to make lots and lots over time, with very little upkeep necessary.
I'm just saying, it might not be an either or situation
exactly! cranberries also make it way easier to save up crops to use in winter and make a better harvest noise. but pumpkins are very satisfying to sell
I clicked on this expecting an actual controversy. I was pleasantly surprised with a challenge.
Seanie SWEATING through the second challenge despite sal doing so poorly is very funny to me
See I liked Seanie’s shed but it was more Halloween themed than pumpkin themed
I am team pumpkins but man Sean’s shed was ugly
Yeah I agree
As a casual player, I go for cranberries because they look nicer and I like the noises for harvesting them.
same and also because you get multiple per harvest making it so you can have lots of spare crops to use during the summer with very little effort
I like how none of the three competitions involve gold wich is arguably the most important thing in the game by a landslide
STORYTIME: STARDEW DRAMA ****SAL MAKES SEANIE CRY!!**** [REAL][NOT CLICKBAIT]
"shut up candle eater" really got me 😭
I was worried this was gonna be serious beef! So happy to see some of my favorite Stardew TH-camrs having fun together. ❤ And now we've got something besides mushrooms vs bats to argue about lol.
sean and salmence fall crop argument of 2023.
This sounds like one of those debates yiu have with your cousin at the Thanksgiving table.
I am a big fan of regrowable crops, this is one of the reasons I prefer cranberries
the noise they make is lovely too and you get so many without trying
@@louloudaki_just plant corn it’s way easier
This was SUCH a fun challenge to watch live. I'd love to see more challenges like this in the future. 👀
This drama is collapsing the Stardew community please guys make up so we can all be at peace again. 😭
Just kidding btw I love these fun little things!
so what i’m hearing is y’all need to make an 8 singing part apology with different instruments in each one
poor seanie got no points for pumpkin soup being a highly valuable skull cavern food (its not all that hard to befriend robin while befriending linus anyway). it stacks with triple expresso/garlic potion and presents 1 more luck than spicy eel. also since cows are mega easy to get in your standard run its incredibly easy to make T_T
also there should be points awarded for pumpkins being one of the 3 coveted giant crops that expert stardew valley farm designers almost always have on display. but nearly no one seriously uses cranberries as a design theme.
“Shut up candle eater!” Why do I love this so much.
On No!! Personally I prefer pumpkins. They're just so pretty. ❤ I'll finish watching later, so I have no idea how this Shakespeare in the Park plays out!
the way THE WAY Ive been avoiding this video like the plague for MONTHS because i hate drama and FINALLY got the courage to click on it ONLY TO FIND OUT THERE IS NO DRAMA ????? Whats the oposite of a clickbait video title? Bc i think i found it for ppl who hate drama at least 😭😭
Salmence cranberry shed came out great. I was unsure what a cranberry theme would be or look like, but it came out super cute
After going through so many different dramas in other TH-cam communities, this is definitely a breathe of fresh air 😅
insanely unrelated but engagement is engagement but where do you buy your button downs from they always have such nice patterns (mainly asking about the first one you have here but also if you get them all from like the same place. 👀) anyway big fan of your content love to see youtuber drama 👍
I think sunflower crops are the best fall crop. Period.
Truee
Based
I did not expectvthe candle story to make it into the final edit😅
LOL the fact I have seen both of these! God I’m so relieved that this isn’t some real drama
I love that Poxial let you down gently by only making it a half point difference 🤣
Never knew the Stardew community was rife with such juicy drama. Seanie’s looking to be my favorite Stardew drama channel
Stardew Valley is finally entering its drama era ✨
6:50 hello my name is Fedo and I would like you to know that, based on my own personal experience, stopping Pam in the bus station screen to make her walk faster actually makes her take a bit more time than she would if she just walks there normally because it's a very short distance and she doesn't get that much of a speed boost for it to be worth it there
Real drama in the fandom is between the creator of Stardew valley expanded and a bunch of other modders, ending in one huge call out tumblr post from a popular modder, saying the SVE creator was stealing assets from other mods and that discord and nexus moderators were giving special treatment. Then we get one big explanation post from the SVE creator basically saying, nope none of that is true 🙅 turns out they were compatibility patches 👁️👄👁️.
That was the drama of 2020.
I've been dreading watching this video, and have put it off for weeks because I like the both of you and I was afraid it was real drama. Boy am I relieved lol.
The funniest debate I’ve actually heard
See, actually with the mill, beets and wheat are more profitable than either crop (more so if you have deluxe speed gro + agriculturalist; beets take only 3 days and wheat takes 2; the gold per day is much higher). The problem is in Fall year 1 do you want to be planting/harvesting every few days when there are prismatic slimes or ectoplasms to find?
Can anybody tell me the name of the outro music? I love it and it seems to be everywhere in the SDV community, but I can't find the name for it.
bruh, like seanie said, you would need ten bazillion preserve jars to make cranberries worth it, and the resources are just too expensive. pumpkins and kegs are so much better by a LONG SHOT
I feel like this is going to start a whole war about cranberries or pumpkins lol
seanie has the funkiest shirts i’m so jealous
Mushroom cave vs fruit cave no more. It is now pumkin vs cranberry
I prefer cranberries just because I play with friends and they take the game far more casually than me, and cranberries fits our combined play style. Plus I like to diversify income with different machines, and I usually do not have enough kegs or jars to process everything, and cranberries just provide consistent, frequent income. On solo playthroughs I do pumpkins. If I do not reach 500k by summer for my pumpkin empire I'm not playing right
Stardew TH-cam beef is the most hilarious beef. Also, yay Poxial is here!
Pumpkin wins because you can make pumpkin soup, which is my husband’s favourite soup
So glad to see Poxial with the big boys!! Pox is my fav sdv yt’er for sure
2:43 loving the Sal lore
Poxial as the judge was so good haha. I like looking at his farms for inspirations.
maybe the best fall crop was the friends we made along the way
honestly with the green grass I would've given Sal's shed a 10/10. For someone who "can't design" he really nailed it. Using roe on the signs instead of cranberries was also a nice touch, but I wouldn't have noticed if he didn't say so in the pinned comment.
when your opponent is xXWaxChuggerXx i think you've got good odds at winning
ehhhh you’d be surprised 😬
Seanie. Seanie. i must know. this is a very important question.
where.
do.
you.
get.
your.
shirts.
Especially this strawberry shirt. i absolutely love it!
But Seanie.. you shouldve worn a pumpkin shirt..
Cranberries are great for the greenhouse before you have access to ancient fruit since it continues to produce after the first harvest
If this is based on whether or not it’s beneficial for a first year to do (or rather possible to do), then the first goes to seanie.
If Seanie Dew had just lit the fireplace and braziers, I would have put him first. Don't forget lighting.
the big failing point of pumpkins is that you don’t get covered in spiders harvesting them.
I was like.. did you get canceled or is this about the cranberry pumpkin feud.
could someone please tell me the name of the song at approximately 1:08? I'm guessing it's from Persona but can't remember the title no matter how hard I try😭
So sorry for the wait, it's Sunset Bridge from Persona 5!
I love crops that require you to not have to replant them. Hence why end game wise..its anticent fruit for me vs starfruit. Or at least end game for the mid-way yes Starfruit and maybe first year if you're a competitive gamer.
i need to know where you got your strawberry shirt its soo cute
Seanie was born to runner-up.
seanie took so long to post the video I thought this was a completely different argument jsahdkadjhak two little divos
Such a fun video!!! Would love to see more challenges like this with different crops!
I saw Sal's video on cranberries and was like "bruhhhhh. this aint 1.0"
Watching this during my first fall to see what crop I should choose
Im still picking cranberries, cause the junimos pick them and i pop them in preserve jars throight the year when im board and have nothing else for the jars
My heart stopped for a second I thought this was serious from the title
clearly the best crop is the mighty parsnip, you're both mistaken and i'll be accepting your apologies :0
Well, there’s no such thing as a giant cranberry...
💜💜
The real answer is use whatever crop you want because they're two sides of the same coin.
so which crop makes more money?
Here is a competition based on three categories:
1. cranberry advantage
2. pumpkin advantage
3. not profit, oh no, we are going to do....... decorating..... of which nobody has an advantage, but this is stardew, and we are all subject to our own desires, which favors.... you... the viewer..... for clickbait..... dang...
Ah, my favourite 2 stardew youtubers playing toghether
i dont understand getting milk from sandy in the desert???
in the first challenge, it was for a way to get milk for pumpkin soup without having to build a barn and raise a cow. in the second challenge, i think seanie was also trying to get it for soup? pumpkin soup is one of sebastian's loved gifts, and his birthday's in midwinter, so it would be a nice way to get hearts. timing just didn't work out.
that or mr. dew was just stuck in milk mode, you never really know with this man :P
Sandy will give you milk when you talk to her sometimes! (Apparently specifically on Saturdays, which I didn't know). Seanie was relying on that gifted milk rather than gathering resources and money for a barn and a cow. :)
can’t wait for the cranberrygate ukulele apology video
This reminded me I have a bag of unopened dried cranberries. Thanks Seanie!
I was in this live and it was GREAT. Hope to see more
you are both right and wrong: in first year, cranberries are better option because you gotta finish that greenhouse first (you must already completed the quality bundle with parsnips, melons and corn, so pumpkins are not really necessary except for one) And cranberries can grow faster with speed fertilizer plus they regrow unlike pumpkins. If you played your cards right, you will had a lot of money from summer and a lot of farming experience from spring. But after first year, pumpkins are a better option. Also you need to get the pig before winter comes for first year community center
Can someone PLEASE tell me why clay farming DOES NOT work on Xbox version of stardew valley?! I’ve tried clay farming for 5 days in a row and everytime I destroy the beach for like 5 clay, and I’m using the 6,4,6,4,1,1 strat
I don't know why, but I do know clay farming doesn't work on consoles in general. Only PC.
@@klatskyn aw that’s so trash
i wonder if pox knew about the candle drinking
Seanie read my comment but the editors put someone else’s comment in the video :( I had a semi-moment I guess 😂
Did you see his hit piece about bait last week?
im crying ans shaking right now how could he
no, you're mad about being baited into using cranberries all fall and still having 800 seeds, not me >:(
seanie sounds like that one kid from cyberchase i think his name is max?? and its lovely
Oh cool I wasn’t super far behind of a video being released this time
SEANIE PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE HAUNTED CHOCOLATIER
Seanie looks like a chiclett come to life but ya gotta love him.
Honestly, Salamence's shed is really beautiful!
Sal's shed was AMAZING