1:12:16 any sound engineer worth their salt would have photos of the sound desk, rack modules and any other relevant equipment on their phone, and would reference them first thing when the arrive the next day to make sure nothing has changed since they left. Its exactly what I have to do working as a musician on a cruise ship (im my own sound engineer). I have had my sound desk tampered with by drunk guests on more than one occasion.
First CS major i ever watched primarily to see you two. It was fun, i thought you guys looked great and sounded great! You two are the reason i find CS interesting.
Rich I wanna commend you and everyone else because every time I tuned into this major it was one the best and most fun to watch cs events I’ve seen in a long time. And I say that with ZERO credit to pgl but instead with even more credit to all the talent you guys nailed it in the most shite conditions. What a bunch of esports legends you lot are
Even if Thorin isn't at the next major, it's gonna be a fucking CRIME if the TO doesn't somehow get Thorin into a showmatch. Thorin vs Enemies, Thorin vs Brazil, Thorin vs ESL, at ESL's tournament. It would be legendary content.
Machine's line of DISASTER, ABSOLUTE DISASTER, is epic, because it encapsulates the last map's ending, but also production. Equally epically sad and funny.
To not see scrawny and launders at the major was the most disaapointing thing regarding the casting in the major for me. These 2 have been grinding REAL HARD and improving massively, and launders is a huge influence on the community with his demo reviews and stuff. That they were not there is mental tbh. I love james and ddk, much love for them, they warmed my heart from the faceit studio many bored nights back in the days, but this major should not been for them they didnt do much during the online era for CS, but scrawny and launders did. ALOT.
I think all of the talent did an amazing job at salvaging a broadcast that was plagued with production problems. Richard was incredibly well-polished as a host, despite coming fresh out of retirement. YNK and Thorin remain some of my favourite analysts; both did an amazing job setting up the context around the teams. I think Maniac might be the best analyst in the world right now, in my opinion. He leverages his playing experience well, and is also incredibly smooth in his delivery. Bleh was a pleasant surprise, and I hope we see more of him at events. Bardolph and DDK delivered a decent performance, despite the rough start and never really getting to their peak. It was nice to have the Room On Fire Trio back at the event, and all three of them delivered solid performances. Anders was fucking hype in the semi-finals. Sadokist remains my favourite caster, and having him back to cast at least the first two stages of the tournament was a joy. Machine and Spunj are phenomenal, and they did an amazing job casting the best final since Boston. James Banks is a fucking G, and would have been absolutely justified in leaving the event, and not only stayed, but fucking killed it with some of his interviews. It would have been easy to label Freya the token female of the broadcast, but she did wonderfully as a stage host and did a great job in focusing attention on the teams that were playing, imo. Whatever the drama, this was a great major, and I'm happy that we, the viewers at home, were able to watch it.
I can't thank you two enough for the work you have put in over the years, including this major. I got to know of you two and your work through my interest in CS but now that my interest in CS has started to fade, my interest in your craftsmanship, personalities and work has stayed as strong, if not getting stronger. Just wanted to say how massively I appreciated seeing you two on a desk at a CS event, and while I'm upset for the shit you went through, I can't help but selfishly feel happy to have been able to witness you guys on a desk one more time. The level of expertise you both brought to the roles was something I'd missed from CS events in the past few years (not to downplay other incredibly talented personalities we have in CS, but you two along with a few others are in a different league). I've heard you talking about this potentially being your last event and if that's what you want, I respect that and will be happy for you to be doing what makes you happy, but just know that for every reddit cretin saying some dumb shit about you, there's at least one guy like me who almost entirely only tunes in because of you, and would love to see you in as many events in the future as possible. Alright now, that's enough sappy shit for today
Just wanna say you guys did a great job with the hosting and analyst part respectively. Never a dull moment with you guys around, honestly. Vintage broadcast vibes along with some fucking banging cs.
@@FFMolasses sorry, I had a brain freeze or something, I thought you said you couldn't wait for the next part about the games and the tournament in general, so I asked about that, sorry :D
I suspect that reddit isn’t really representative of most fans; I been watching you guys and csgo since 2014 and I always loved Semmler. In all that time it has never occurred to me to make an account on reddit or hltv. Based on what I’ve seen, I think those platforms attract and incubate hysterical and unreflective fandoms because hysterical fans are more likely to want to post their whack takes into the ether. Then the only other people who want to engage with that none sense is other likeminded weirdos. Most normal people just aren’t inclined to share input on everything; I’ve been a heavy TH-cam user for a decade and don’t think I’ve even posted more than 10 comments ever Thanks for keeping up the show lads, makes my office job way more bearable 👍
The shit Semlar went through. Only to go full chad on these boys, and now whats happened to Anders. You have to feel for these two and appreciate what they’ve done for CS. Because they love it.
The sound board thing is ESPECIALLY frustrating as someone who has run productions on an amateur level. So many soundboards are digital now. What that means is that you have a limited number of physical nobs and sliders that you can then map and cycle through a larger amount actual audio channels. They are all motorized so they move by themselves, and you can save configurations as presets. If they had a digital board and they somehow didn't save the ONLY working configuration between days, that is such a collossal fuck up. That is such a high level of incompetence to not understand one of the core functions of your board. If they for some reason didn't have a newer digital board (which they should have considering how much they're flexing their money and resources), there needs to be some sort of way to keep track of everything between days. You can put tape on channels so you can keep a mic in an acceptable range without getting feedback, take pictures of the board, cover up things that you don't want to change, and label EVERYTHING to ensure continuity. Also, do a fucking sound check in the morning. Jeeeeesus christ, it's not that complicated.
This video honestly pays its own tribute to the incredible job you guys did. Outside of day 1 and the first quarterfinals with all the audio issues, I NEVER would've guessed half the issues that were going on behind the scenes. Goes to show that the quality of the people bringing the event to life, if good enough, distracts from all the problems. Diamonds are made under pressure. Fantastic job, to both of you and the rest of the talent.
I got a sense that the major train was heading a bit off track in some areas, but was being kept on the rails by talent. No idea that the situation was anywhere near as bad, hats off to talent. I'm not sure other hosts would have done as well considering the circumstances, but I'd like to think that the alternatives would have managed. Rich with his experience, the hero we needed for that major, a safe pair of hands for a crisis. Despite the difficulties, talent delivered the goods for a very enjoyable major. I'd love to see that future event where Rich hosts and Hugo and Harry cast. I bet they wouldn't have minded casting a show match and a quarter final. Or Scrawny and Launders. They deserved to be there over Bardolph and DDK. To his credit, DDK warmed up during the event and shook off some of the rust. Bardolph exited stage left with his job left incomplete. Hell.. I'm sure Sadokist would've preferred a QF and the Show Match over being essentially deported to Canada. In that context, the entitled stance Bardolph took is really upsetting.
This is one of the sadder popcorn videos I've seen in a while; we got cheated out of such an epic major both when it came to production and talent, after the pandemic break. scrawdogger and launpogger, hugo and harry... talk about two duos that were missed! Glad to have you two dropping facts and behind the scenes details when you can
Love the honesty from both of you, and loved the desk at this Major. Despite all the issues, hearing Rich and Thorin on the desk at a CSGO Major again was incredible, and you both delivered - just like the rest of the talent. If you decide to do more events, Rich, I already know I'll love the desk segments. The same goes for Duncan, of course. Much respect and love to the both of you, you two are pillars of the CS scene and I couldn't imagine it without you.
The fact Thorin wasn't in the showmatch is fucking insane. Imagine a team of "Villains" (Thorin, kio "the problem", smooya, niko) vs Thorin's "enemies" (device, get right, happy, zeus, fallen) Im sure there's plenty more you could pick for either team I'm forgetting. Casted by richard and red eye
In the arena we had the acoustic feedback 4 or 5 times that became a super high pitched scrieching sound after 2-3 seconds. The casters heared it too because they stopped talking when that happened.
Haven't watched the video yet but I hope the both of you know that despite all the stress and the bullshit that you and the rest of the crew had to deal with at the major, the entire tournament was a fucking blast to watch and it's endlessly appreciated that you guys put mind and body out there to give us that. Esports is a fucking crazy industry but the passion makes it worth watching. Peace ✌️
Eu zic ca tre' sa ai mare 'noroc' sa gasesti un loc prost de mancat.. sunt atatea locuri blana de mancat, bani sa ai.. de la Buc, pana la Brasov si restu' tarii..
On the one hand I applaud Richards humility to put others first and declare himself not deserving of the host position at the major, but on the other hand I just disagree. Having Duncan and Richard there gave a certain pedigree to the desk segments with the fresh(er) faces of Bleh and Maniac who did a superb job. One man's "Old Boys Club" is another man's esteemed authority.
You guys were amazingly stoic throughout the event and carried the whole thing with professionalism. I could tell the production/audio was an absolute shitshow but you guys made it work. It really only felt like the issues were 'fixed' on the final day for the most important match
As someone who spent the entire event up front in the audience I can confirm that we couldn't hear or understand any of the analysts or casters or hosts. If you went to back of house by the sound desk it sounded perfectly clear. Blew my mind that the sound tech didn't go around to get a mix from the rest of the stadium.
A proper show rundown: 15 secs - intro 30 secs - Thorin on Navi 45 secs - discussion on previous point 15 secs - throw to ads PGL major rundown: 8 hours - VAMP Show ends.
48:20 MAAAAAAATE, if I hear my own voice through my coworker's radio as I'm talking, my brain shuts down. You're telling me they were pumping it directly into your ear three times over? That's absolutely bonkers.
The fact you guys put on a good show is amazing hearing these problems. The major would have been a complete mess if it was anyone other than you guys. Thank you for doing everything in your power to give this game one last run.
For me Henry & Sado are the best duo we've ever had in cs, I do think Bardolph & DDK had one of the best casts when they did the faze vs c9 final though
It was so great seeing you and Thorin back in a Major! I truly hope to see you again at CS events as they feel really different when you aren't there especially for an old timer like me. Also glad to see you guys had Semmler back during all the backlash, it was heartbreaking to see the dumbass community jumping on his throat again even thought they whined for ages when he left for Overwatch. I think he nailed it but with some people you just can't ever win...
1:43:04 two points: About Semmler: How did the fans get to the point of pushing him OUT of the scene, then being so overwhelmingly happy when he returns (remember that magical cast he did at a Blast after OWL but before he properly returned to the game?) TO AGAIN making thousands of hate threads? Seriously some people can't appreciate anything for more than five f*cking minutes. About Anders: At home I would've never thought that Anders was psychologically destroyed in that first Semi. He absolutely nailed it. Hope he got over it again, I swear to god if CS wants to survive a little bit longer, it can never afford pushing these guys out of the scene. Oh and also, the two of you are crucial to the game's survival as well, I'm sure. Rich, please do some more events, you were so amazing on the desk despite the worst conditions possible.
🔥🔥🔥🔥 I feel bad that everyone can't just get along but it was a good major either way Alot of friendships broken It makes me sad for the game we love but thats just life
About what you said toward the end of the video, I really do hope you take some of those offers, and do some events. You nailed it as host at PGL, Richard, seriously.
Richard killed it on the desk, and I think he was the best for the job, but I do think Thorin saying that others would have failed at the job isnt reasonable. I think someone like stunna would of done a wonderful job as well.
From a viewer perspective, the major was pretty good. Shame we never got to go see the shoulder content, but when we compare the important part, casting and observing, that was so much better than starladder.
the part about the sound being too loud reminds me of every game nowadays. whenever you install a new game they always have the sound at 100% by default, giving you heart attacks when starting it for the first time,
A pho bowl full of potatoes and rib stew, euro style. A Jamaican paddy for some starch. More interested / concentrated then any other content I have ever consumed in my life. Well done Lord Richard and thorrin. my king arthur and lancelot. only fitting you went to war together
When Richard mention 'The Expendables' , i was photoshopping Richard as Sylvester Stallone's character in my brain Then Thorin and Richard said PGL did not hiring the best, i was searching for the The Expendables poster, found The Expendables 4 just start filming on OCT IT ALL MAKE SENSE NOW! Richard has 3 more major to host, the simulation has shown us the way!
as someone who's performed at lots of live music shows. there is nothing more irritating than when they screw up the foldback audio/balance. Almost no one ever gets it right too
I really wish the showmatch went as planned. What a glorious content we would have. I think the bangar would be if some players worked as analysts for that game, someone like dev1ce instead of playing would talk smack how thooorin is bad and thoorin just roasting people and camping with autosniper or something. Instead everyone got fucked over and is pissed off.
My sister works for Sky TV. Duncan's point about audio levels and testing is right on the money. Now i know Sky are pure evil, but they have extensive rules and safety measures in place when it comes to talent and audio levels, including rigorous safety testing, monthly reviews, all audio pieces and things like ear piece moulds are all completely personalised and staff are offered free hearing checks and such regularly. If you are dicking around with potentially dangerous sound levels in the talents each, or even worse, a celebrity guest on the show, you will be in serious trouble. Again I'm sure objectively Sky are an evil organisation, but I know first hand from sister they take this sort of thing very very seriously - as all producers/directors and productions should.
Honestly, taking Thorin off the show match was a bigger insult to the overall entertainment than all the technical blunders at the event. The content this single match would've given the community would've been enough for the next 3 yrs. I understand it from a "political" perspective as he's someone more controversial (What a joke, to perceive realness as problematic but w.e) but viewers would've ate that shit up. I hope whoever does the next major or event and Thorin is down to be involved, corrects this mistake.
ok respect for semmler here i even said i didnt lke him casting 2 semi's cause i didnt love his casting in the first semi but him standing in for anders is respectable af
1:12:16 any sound engineer worth their salt would have photos of the sound desk, rack modules and any other relevant equipment on their phone, and would reference them first thing when the arrive the next day to make sure nothing has changed since they left.
Its exactly what I have to do working as a musician on a cruise ship (im my own sound engineer). I have had my sound desk tampered with by drunk guests on more than one occasion.
First CS major i ever watched primarily to see you two. It was fun, i thought you guys looked great and sounded great! You two are the reason i find CS interesting.
Same, the desk was straight fire
I missed the major streams but it was great to see both of them there!
Ditto to that.
Same,it was my first tíme also,and Im glad I got to see Rich and Duncan in major enviroment.Also major was really great.
@@rooskrist7870 literally 30 seconds into the first day stream thorin was spitting straight fire haha
Rich I wanna commend you and everyone else because every time I tuned into this major it was one the best and most fun to watch cs events I’ve seen in a long time. And I say that with ZERO credit to pgl but instead with even more credit to all the talent you guys nailed it in the most shite conditions. What a bunch of esports legends you lot are
Oh and big up semmler in particular the zen legend
Even if Thorin isn't at the next major, it's gonna be a fucking CRIME if the TO doesn't somehow get Thorin into a showmatch. Thorin vs Enemies, Thorin vs Brazil, Thorin vs ESL, at ESL's tournament. It would be legendary content.
Thorin vs Brazil/Bardolph/Astralis
Yeah but there’s no chance you’ll see thorin in Brazil or Poland
thorin will have to play form another country lol
ESL isn't self aware enough for that. Tbh, if blast gets a major, they should do thorin vs nyholm
That Thorin showmatch would've been epic. Next time, have all of Thorin's "enemies" on the other team.
I don't think they make a server big enough 🤣
@@BURRDAWG_ make the enemies fight in a tournament to win spots on the team 😅
@@UpsideDownCanoe I think we might have what it takes to bring csgo back to life
thorin lurpis richard vs bardolph redeye deman etc.
99v1 confirmed
Machine's line of DISASTER, ABSOLUTE DISASTER, is epic, because it encapsulates the last map's ending, but also production. Equally epically sad and funny.
To not see scrawny and launders at the major was the most disaapointing thing regarding the casting in the major for me. These 2 have been grinding REAL HARD and improving massively, and launders is a huge influence on the community with his demo reviews and stuff. That they were not there is mental tbh. I love james and ddk, much love for them, they warmed my heart from the faceit studio many bored nights back in the days, but this major should not been for them they didnt do much during the online era for CS, but scrawny and launders did. ALOT.
They would've hit so fucking hard in the stadium
I'm glad we'll get to hear scrawny and launders in the royal arena in front of the crowd
I swear launders has dedicated so much to this game for so long, finna be a nice moment when he gets his shine. He been close before
yup. thats the first thing that came to mind when they first announced the talent. no scrawnders? harry and hugo? no freya? HOW
If James is casting the stream is muted
The green background made me unreasonably excited not even gonna lie
Haha same!
I thought my phone screen was breaking until I read the title.
MINDSET
Mindfield
i can smell the straight fire oozing from this one
I can smell the burning bodies
@@1sb3rg34 now I've waded through the straight fire and the pile of bodies is impressive
I think all of the talent did an amazing job at salvaging a broadcast that was plagued with production problems. Richard was incredibly well-polished as a host, despite coming fresh out of retirement. YNK and Thorin remain some of my favourite analysts; both did an amazing job setting up the context around the teams. I think Maniac might be the best analyst in the world right now, in my opinion. He leverages his playing experience well, and is also incredibly smooth in his delivery. Bleh was a pleasant surprise, and I hope we see more of him at events. Bardolph and DDK delivered a decent performance, despite the rough start and never really getting to their peak. It was nice to have the Room On Fire Trio back at the event, and all three of them delivered solid performances. Anders was fucking hype in the semi-finals. Sadokist remains my favourite caster, and having him back to cast at least the first two stages of the tournament was a joy. Machine and Spunj are phenomenal, and they did an amazing job casting the best final since Boston. James Banks is a fucking G, and would have been absolutely justified in leaving the event, and not only stayed, but fucking killed it with some of his interviews. It would have been easy to label Freya the token female of the broadcast, but she did wonderfully as a stage host and did a great job in focusing attention on the teams that were playing, imo. Whatever the drama, this was a great major, and I'm happy that we, the viewers at home, were able to watch it.
I can't thank you two enough for the work you have put in over the years, including this major. I got to know of you two and your work through my interest in CS but now that my interest in CS has started to fade, my interest in your craftsmanship, personalities and work has stayed as strong, if not getting stronger.
Just wanted to say how massively I appreciated seeing you two on a desk at a CS event, and while I'm upset for the shit you went through, I can't help but selfishly feel happy to have been able to witness you guys on a desk one more time. The level of expertise you both brought to the roles was something I'd missed from CS events in the past few years (not to downplay other incredibly talented personalities we have in CS, but you two along with a few others are in a different league).
I've heard you talking about this potentially being your last event and if that's what you want, I respect that and will be happy for you to be doing what makes you happy, but just know that for every reddit cretin saying some dumb shit about you, there's at least one guy like me who almost entirely only tunes in because of you, and would love to see you in as many events in the future as possible.
Alright now, that's enough sappy shit for today
34:00 when Thorin says "you'll see..." you can take it to the bank.
I hate the fact that even this major did not allow Thorin to participate in the Showmatch. Could've made the Showmatch so much more entertaining.
Just wanna say you guys did a great job with the hosting and analyst part respectively. Never a dull moment with you guys around, honestly. Vintage broadcast vibes along with some fucking banging cs.
cant wait to hear the full showmatch story
i didnt understand when is it coming out please?
@@paraxe its in this episode mate
@@FFMolasses sorry, I had a brain freeze or something, I thought you said you couldn't wait for the next part about the games and the tournament in general, so I asked about that, sorry :D
@@paraxe no worries friend
I suspect that reddit isn’t really representative of most fans; I been watching you guys and csgo since 2014 and I always loved Semmler. In all that time it has never occurred to me to make an account on reddit or hltv. Based on what I’ve seen, I think those platforms attract and incubate hysterical and unreflective fandoms because hysterical fans are more likely to want to post their whack takes into the ether. Then the only other people who want to engage with that none sense is other likeminded weirdos. Most normal people just aren’t inclined to share input on everything; I’ve been a heavy TH-cam user for a decade and don’t think I’ve even posted more than 10 comments ever
Thanks for keeping up the show lads, makes my office job way more bearable 👍
oh boy
Richard (and Thorin and Sam too) thanks for the content that's been coming out and is going to come out!
The shit Semlar went through. Only to go full chad on these boys, and now whats happened to Anders. You have to feel for these two and appreciate what they’ve done for CS. Because they love it.
What happened to em?
For real, man.
@@Oscar-pm9bx just watch the video, its partially explained in there.
id go as far as to say semmler carried the casting at the major. he was great
Despite the drama, I had an absolute blast watching the show you guys put on. So thanks for your hard work!
This green thumbnail got me hyped up
This one smells like it's gonna be a spicy one.
Nothing but love to you Rich for the work at the major and everything as of late
The sound board thing is ESPECIALLY frustrating as someone who has run productions on an amateur level. So many soundboards are digital now. What that means is that you have a limited number of physical nobs and sliders that you can then map and cycle through a larger amount actual audio channels. They are all motorized so they move by themselves, and you can save configurations as presets. If they had a digital board and they somehow didn't save the ONLY working configuration between days, that is such a collossal fuck up. That is such a high level of incompetence to not understand one of the core functions of your board.
If they for some reason didn't have a newer digital board (which they should have considering how much they're flexing their money and resources), there needs to be some sort of way to keep track of everything between days. You can put tape on channels so you can keep a mic in an acceptable range without getting feedback, take pictures of the board, cover up things that you don't want to change, and label EVERYTHING to ensure continuity. Also, do a fucking sound check in the morning. Jeeeeesus christ, it's not that complicated.
This video honestly pays its own tribute to the incredible job you guys did. Outside of day 1 and the first quarterfinals with all the audio issues, I NEVER would've guessed half the issues that were going on behind the scenes. Goes to show that the quality of the people bringing the event to life, if good enough, distracts from all the problems. Diamonds are made under pressure. Fantastic job, to both of you and the rest of the talent.
barely any editing until thorin talking about the show match 😂😂😂
Thorin came for fucking blood
I got a sense that the major train was heading a bit off track in some areas, but was being kept on the rails by talent. No idea that the situation was anywhere near as bad, hats off to talent. I'm not sure other hosts would have done as well considering the circumstances, but I'd like to think that the alternatives would have managed. Rich with his experience, the hero we needed for that major, a safe pair of hands for a crisis. Despite the difficulties, talent delivered the goods for a very enjoyable major. I'd love to see that future event where Rich hosts and Hugo and Harry cast. I bet they wouldn't have minded casting a show match and a quarter final. Or Scrawny and Launders. They deserved to be there over Bardolph and DDK. To his credit, DDK warmed up during the event and shook off some of the rust. Bardolph exited stage left with his job left incomplete. Hell.. I'm sure Sadokist would've preferred a QF and the Show Match over being essentially deported to Canada. In that context, the entitled stance Bardolph took is really upsetting.
It was kept on tracks also by the playoffs making sense, and the finals being fucking epic 🔥
This is one of the sadder popcorn videos I've seen in a while; we got cheated out of such an epic major both when it came to production and talent, after the pandemic break. scrawdogger and launpogger, hugo and harry... talk about two duos that were missed!
Glad to have you two dropping facts and behind the scenes details when you can
Love the honesty from both of you, and loved the desk at this Major. Despite all the issues, hearing Rich and Thorin on the desk at a CSGO Major again was incredible, and you both delivered - just like the rest of the talent. If you decide to do more events, Rich, I already know I'll love the desk segments. The same goes for Duncan, of course. Much respect and love to the both of you, you two are pillars of the CS scene and I couldn't imagine it without you.
Damn, you guys were in the trenches. Trudging ahead with no back up. As a viewer i would have never known. Hats off.
The fact Thorin wasn't in the showmatch is fucking insane.
Imagine a team of "Villains" (Thorin, kio "the problem", smooya, niko) vs Thorin's "enemies" (device, get right, happy, zeus, fallen)
Im sure there's plenty more you could pick for either team I'm forgetting.
Casted by richard and red eye
GBJames needs to be the coach of the opposing team for peak BTN lore.
Henrys appearances in "the caches" showmatches at iem sydney over the years is by far my favorite because of henry being such a character
In the arena we had the acoustic feedback 4 or 5 times that became a super high pitched scrieching sound after 2-3 seconds.
The casters heared it too because they stopped talking when that happened.
Haven't watched the video yet but I hope the both of you know that despite all the stress and the bullshit that you and the rest of the crew had to deal with at the major, the entire tournament was a fucking blast to watch and it's endlessly appreciated that you guys put mind and body out there to give us that. Esports is a fucking crazy industry but the passion makes it worth watching. Peace ✌️
Bruh, I had to get some camping essentials before this one, I knew the fire was coming
1:32:26 the pure energy put into this explanation is just amazing to listen to
I am from Romania and "hospitality was the best, but the meat and potatoes was garbage" sums it up pretty well, not rly surprised at all
Eu zic ca tre' sa ai mare 'noroc' sa gasesti un loc prost de mancat.. sunt atatea locuri blana de mancat, bani sa ai.. de la Buc, pana la Brasov si restu' tarii..
Lol, era metafora. Nu apucasem sa ma uit 😂😂
Richard pondering taking offers for future events. That's all I needed.
On the one hand I applaud Richards humility to put others first and declare himself not deserving of the host position at the major, but on the other hand I just disagree.
Having Duncan and Richard there gave a certain pedigree to the desk segments with the fresh(er) faces of Bleh and Maniac who did a superb job. One man's "Old Boys Club" is another man's esteemed authority.
I love Return Of By The Numbers so much
You guys were amazingly stoic throughout the event and carried the whole thing with professionalism. I could tell the production/audio was an absolute shitshow but you guys made it work. It really only felt like the issues were 'fixed' on the final day for the most important match
As someone who spent the entire event up front in the audience I can confirm that we couldn't hear or understand any of the analysts or casters or hosts. If you went to back of house by the sound desk it sounded perfectly clear. Blew my mind that the sound tech didn't go around to get a mix from the rest of the stadium.
So much respect for semmler for being a soilder 🙇♂️
And all guys are heros for csgo community, we legitimately don't deserve such a godlike talent.
A proper show rundown:
15 secs - intro
30 secs - Thorin on Navi
45 secs - discussion on previous point
15 secs - throw to ads
PGL major rundown:
8 hours - VAMP
Show ends.
9 hours - VAMPETA
48:20 MAAAAAAATE, if I hear my own voice through my coworker's radio as I'm talking, my brain shuts down. You're telling me they were pumping it directly into your ear three times over? That's absolutely bonkers.
The fact you guys put on a good show is amazing hearing these problems. The major would have been a complete mess if it was anyone other than you guys. Thank you for doing everything in your power to give this game one last run.
I came for the epic CSGO matches
But I stayed for the desk segments.
Hopefully you decide to do another Major.
For me Henry & Sado are the best duo we've ever had in cs, I do think Bardolph & DDK had one of the best casts when they did the faze vs c9 final though
How could you have a bad cast in the C9 Faze final? It was the most exciting CS match ever.
@1:41:40 - gave me massive The Day Today vibes. "I don't like it, but I'll go along with it!"
Ich Nichten Lichten
Imagine how much stress Anders had to be under to somehow lose his already lost mind.
I feel so bad for anders
I have a big glass of milk ready to help me with the spice. Bring it on!
It was so great seeing you and Thorin back in a Major! I truly hope to see you again at CS events as they feel really different when you aren't there especially for an old timer like me. Also glad to see you guys had Semmler back during all the backlash, it was heartbreaking to see the dumbass community jumping on his throat again even thought they whined for ages when he left for Overwatch. I think he nailed it but with some people you just can't ever win...
Amazing insight guys. Although there were a lot of issues, it was a joy to see you guys in your element at the event. Big ups!
1:43:04 two points:
About Semmler:
How did the fans get to the point of pushing him OUT of the scene, then being so overwhelmingly happy when he returns (remember that magical cast he did at a Blast after OWL but before he properly returned to the game?) TO AGAIN making thousands of hate threads? Seriously some people can't appreciate anything for more than five f*cking minutes.
About Anders:
At home I would've never thought that Anders was psychologically destroyed in that first Semi. He absolutely nailed it. Hope he got over it again, I swear to god if CS wants to survive a little bit longer, it can never afford pushing these guys out of the scene.
Oh and also, the two of you are crucial to the game's survival as well, I'm sure. Rich, please do some more events, you were so amazing on the desk despite the worst conditions possible.
Incredible. Thanks for the tremendous insight. I absolutely love you guys and the honesty and passion you bring to all you do.
“I want a better standard of fan!” - Duncan “by the way” Thorin, 2021.
didn't even notice the drama speaks testament to the professionalism
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I feel bad that everyone can't just get along but it was a good major either way
Alot of friendships broken
It makes me sad for the game we love but thats just life
The fire we've been waiting for.
This view behind the curtains is just incredible, thank you!
This was fantastic , thanks for the addition Insight
This is gonna be a good one !
Tech problems, talent problems or anything the analyst desk was unreal yous killed it man
About what you said toward the end of the video, I really do hope you take some of those offers, and do some events. You nailed it as host at PGL, Richard, seriously.
Thanks for putting on a great (or at least as great as possible) show despite all the issues!
Richard killed it on the desk, and I think he was the best for the job, but I do think Thorin saying that others would have failed at the job isnt reasonable. I think someone like stunna would of done a wonderful job as well.
2gd would've been great as well
2:03:30 Maaate Sam why you gotta timestamp that. Pretty sure this was straight fire. We were still robbed of the best show match in CS history.
One of the best episodes ever. If theres anything to take away from this, it's that Semmler is a fucking gangster. A true esports OG
"The event may not have even finished." *Drops Mic* Damn Thorin. Haha!
From a viewer perspective, the major was pretty good. Shame we never got to go see the shoulder content, but when we compare the important part, casting and observing, that was so much better than starladder.
So glad they hired you guys, as you're the only guys who would air them like this
You know the green background means an extra fire show
I'm diving in boys, see you on the other side. I expect to be a changed man after this.
I know that it is not worth anything to you, but you did an amazing job with the major and I want to thank you both for it.
the part about the sound being too loud reminds me of every game nowadays. whenever you install a new game they always have the sound at 100% by default, giving you heart attacks when starting it for the first time,
So relatable.
Throins rant on Bardolph still brings me to tears every time I listen to this. Nailed him to the cross.
A pho bowl full of potatoes and rib stew, euro style. A Jamaican paddy for some starch. More interested / concentrated then any other content I have ever consumed in my life. Well done Lord Richard and thorrin. my king arthur and lancelot. only fitting you went to war together
When Richard mention 'The Expendables' , i was photoshopping Richard as Sylvester Stallone's character in my brain
Then Thorin and Richard said PGL did not hiring the best, i was searching for the The Expendables poster, found The Expendables 4 just start filming on OCT
IT ALL MAKE SENSE NOW!
Richard has 3 more major to host, the simulation has shown us the way!
another banger from the boys of BTN
So excited for this one!
After Rich's solo vid about the major, I've been so stoked for this shit!!!
as someone who's performed at lots of live music shows. there is nothing more irritating than when they screw up the foldback audio/balance. Almost no one ever gets it right too
from the video from yesterday I've been super excited for this vid LETS GO
Why is it the last Thorin Major? Would love to see him in Brazil in a future Brazilian Major.
I really wish the showmatch went as planned. What a glorious content we would have. I think the bangar would be if some players worked as analysts for that game, someone like dev1ce instead of playing would talk smack how thooorin is bad and thoorin just roasting people and camping with autosniper or something. Instead everyone got fucked over and is pissed off.
My sister works for Sky TV. Duncan's point about audio levels and testing is right on the money. Now i know Sky are pure evil, but they have extensive rules and safety measures in place when it comes to talent and audio levels, including rigorous safety testing, monthly reviews, all audio pieces and things like ear piece moulds are all completely personalised and staff are offered free hearing checks and such regularly. If you are dicking around with potentially dangerous sound levels in the talents each, or even worse, a celebrity guest on the show, you will be in serious trouble. Again I'm sure objectively Sky are an evil organisation, but I know first hand from sister they take this sort of thing very very seriously - as all producers/directors and productions should.
I've had a priapism waiting for this one
top 3 episode for sure. you guys keep it real as always. thanks rich
I haven't watched it yet, but I feel it's gonna be fire.
The event wans't even listed on pgl's website. During the event..
Please give next major to Lewis & Shields Co.
Much love to all the talent that made this major good in spite of all the production issues.
Honestly, taking Thorin off the show match was a bigger insult to the overall entertainment than all the technical blunders at the event. The content this single match would've given the community would've been enough for the next 3 yrs. I understand it from a "political" perspective as he's someone more controversial (What a joke, to perceive realness as problematic but w.e) but viewers would've ate that shit up. I hope whoever does the next major or event and Thorin is down to be involved, corrects this mistake.
I might be the only one but I'm grateful the major was full of production issues, made it feel like the real thing
Straight fire as always. You guys are the best!
This is going to bang I can tell from the thumbnail alone.
love ur videos bro think therell be didn appen hoodies? had a look on website can only see tshirts tryna stay warm asf for christmas thanks bro
Lets goo. Can't wait to watch this one!
Richard and Duncan are basically the Key and Peele Obama anger translator meme. Tell me I'm wrong.
It's amazing how much other stuff is going on behind the scenes 🤔
Should do a "No Majors club" show match with team Thorin vs team Zues lmao
Hello from Perth Australia 🇦🇺 Home of the billy mate!! Haha
ok respect for semmler here
i even said i didnt lke him casting 2 semi's cause i didnt love his casting in the first semi but him standing in for anders is respectable af