3.09 Rear axle, gearbox ratios are also quite tall. 1st - 4.97, 2nd - 2.84, 3rd - 1.86. Also running on 21" wheels doesn't help. Compared to the ZF8 in my car - final drive 3.07, 1st - 4.10, 2nd - 2.31, 3rd - 1.54. Running 18" Wheels. My car has same (when it was stock) 0-100 despite being 90kw less powerful, also 500kg lighter also helps haha.
@@blake301987 Depends on the application If it's the torque converter 1st gen ZF 8HP Then it's 1st: 4.71 2nd: 3.14 3rd: 2.10 4th: 1.66 Or if it's the 2nd gen DSG 8sp ZF 1st: 5.00 2nd: 3.20 3rd: 2.14 4th: 1.72 Final drive varies on manufacturer. Personally i approve of FCA's choice of 3.45 (Diesel V6) & 3.70 (Trackhawk/SRT8) Jeep Grand Cherokee ^ Anything 2.9 something 2.7 something, etc Feels more like a 5sp auto with 3 useless gears
@@ThomasFG You're looking at the ZF 8HP70 base specs. BMW and Audi/VW have custom ratios (probably others too). The ratios I quoted are from Porsche and the ratios I quoted for my cars 8HP45 are from BMW. Final drive is a fairly meaningless number unless you also include gearbox ratios, and tyre rolling radius.
@@blake301987 Last time i checked or was informed they were identical across the board. This is true but that's something way in depth 🤣 Generalisation or simplified 3.55, 3.45, etc
The only issue is that niggling little feeling of the inevitable failure and massive pain in the ass of having to deal with FCA, thee worst car brand in Australia.
D I would be interested to know how many affected Trackhawks there are considering they have a completely separate engine and chassis from anything else in the range including the SRT models.
RatBoy its not so much the mechanicals (which by the way the maintenance schedule and costs are eye-watering) but the electrics and safety systems. Jeep continue to have pretty horrendous issues in these areas
Lol, no comparison what so ever.. The Jeep Grand Cherokee regular and Trackhawk version is built at the Jefferson Plant in Detroit Michigan. Working for an OEM company I’ve been there and the work is sub par. Remember seeing “Leroy” sleeping down in the pit where he should have been quality checking components on the underside as the vehicles pass overhead.
I think there is something to do with the transmission. The macan turbo which is only around 50KG lighter does 4.2 from 0-100, it has a proper Porsche PDK rather than the relatively slower ZF 8AT on Cayenne. That PDK on macan also allows more aggressive launch control at almost 5000 rpm.
@@michaelzuo1417 Even the Turbo GT uses the regular slushbox which i find very funny. They’ve basically used this transmisson in the Cayenne since 2011 but with several updates and variations. But i have a 2014 Cayenne S Diesel and thought that the gearbox was a bit sluggish and i did a gearbox remap and it helped alot. Almost like a DCT now.
I come from a v8 background & impressive as these cars may be they sound like absolute crap, seriously had farts with better note to them. Bike world nothing sounds as good as a Ducati , cars v8 sound beats all.
Exciting stuff starts at 2:57
35 likes from 3 years ago? Let me fix that
Nice vid as always!
Is it just me , or does the front seat (1:50) already appear worn and stained on the outer cushion?!
I would really appreciate if you would test a Maserati Levante SQ4 :) or GTS or Trofeo :)
We have asked Maserati multiple times. No response so far.
PDriveTV I understand. Thank you for your answer.
Wow wth that's quick
Best performance for it's segment.
Great car PDRIVE , the engine in this car good is it an AUDI engine because lately Audi and Porsche have been sharing engines . Good Video mate
VW Group engine
They all share DNA out of Autostadt
This one optioned with sports exhaust ?
Yes, actually it is. We should have made a note of that in the video sorry. Factory Porsche bi-modal sports exhaust option with black tips.
Nice Demo
Seems they put a relatively low final drive in these. Under 3.35 atleast
3.09 Rear axle, gearbox ratios are also quite tall. 1st - 4.97, 2nd - 2.84, 3rd - 1.86. Also running on 21" wheels doesn't help.
Compared to the ZF8 in my car - final drive 3.07, 1st - 4.10, 2nd - 2.31, 3rd - 1.54. Running 18" Wheels.
My car has same (when it was stock) 0-100 despite being 90kw less powerful, also 500kg lighter also helps haha.
@@blake301987 Depends on the application
If it's the torque converter 1st gen ZF 8HP
Then it's
1st: 4.71
2nd: 3.14
3rd: 2.10
4th: 1.66
Or if it's the 2nd gen DSG 8sp ZF
1st: 5.00
2nd: 3.20
3rd: 2.14
4th: 1.72
Final drive varies on manufacturer. Personally i approve of FCA's choice of 3.45 (Diesel V6) & 3.70 (Trackhawk/SRT8) Jeep Grand Cherokee ^
Anything 2.9 something
2.7 something, etc
Feels more like a 5sp auto with 3 useless gears
@@ThomasFG You're looking at the ZF 8HP70 base specs. BMW and Audi/VW have custom ratios (probably others too). The ratios I quoted are from Porsche and the ratios I quoted for my cars 8HP45 are from BMW.
Final drive is a fairly meaningless number unless you also include gearbox ratios, and tyre rolling radius.
@@blake301987 Last time i checked or was informed they were identical across the board. This is true but that's something way in depth 🤣
Generalisation or simplified 3.55, 3.45, etc
Can you do one of the Mercedes amg gt63s
Why there is no Mercedes-Benz in this channel??
We have asked Mercedes multiple times. They don't seem to want to lend us vehicles to test.
It doesn't have a 4.0L V8 twin turbo?
No, that's the GTS and the Cayenne Turbo.
Nice sound, but it will be better with pops and bangs!
It’s a luxury car and not a sportscar
Car Tube it combines luxury and sport
Rs4 ~ Rs5 engine 😂
It’s porshe made engine.
@@mortib5968 ya
Yeah, still happy with my Jeep Trackhawk.
The only issue is that niggling little feeling of the inevitable failure and massive pain in the ass of having to deal with FCA, thee worst car brand in Australia.
Sure sound heaps better than this vacuum cleaner
D I would be interested to know how many affected Trackhawks there are considering they have a completely separate engine and chassis from anything else in the range including the SRT models.
RatBoy its not so much the mechanicals (which by the way the maintenance schedule and costs are eye-watering) but the electrics and safety systems. Jeep continue to have pretty horrendous issues in these areas
Lol, no comparison what so ever.. The Jeep Grand Cherokee regular and Trackhawk version is built at the Jefferson Plant in Detroit Michigan. Working for an OEM company I’ve been there and the work is sub par. Remember seeing “Leroy” sleeping down in the pit where he should have been quality checking components on the underside as the vehicles pass overhead.
Brasil
Doesn't look too fast for 441ps. Maybe it weights too much?
I think there is something to do with the transmission. The macan turbo which is only around 50KG lighter does 4.2 from 0-100, it has a proper Porsche PDK rather than the relatively slower ZF 8AT on Cayenne. That PDK on macan also allows more aggressive launch control at almost 5000 rpm.
Michael Zuo didn’t know the Cayenne doesn’t use the PDK. Porsche has to rethink it!
Bruno Dias right? they should make it an option. the 8 speed ZF isn’t very great - quite jerky.
@@michaelzuo1417 Even the Turbo GT uses the regular slushbox which i find very funny. They’ve basically used this transmisson in the Cayenne since 2011 but with several updates and variations. But i have a 2014 Cayenne S Diesel and thought that the gearbox was a bit sluggish and i did a gearbox remap and it helped alot. Almost like a DCT now.
base on VW Touareg
And?
@@leograph5045 buy 2 touareg & 1 tiguan
nope
@@AhmedAddas I'd rather have this tbh. You also can't buy all those for the price of a Cayenne S.
Truer to say they share the same platform! Given Porsche own VW AG, are all VW/Audi not then based on their Porsche counterpart?? Just a thought!!
If the sports car is kissed by the BB, the faster sport car run, the longer the kiss time...Haha........................
Plastic dashboard?!
It’s got nice details and decent performance but all Porsche SUVs look like a FROG !
My golf r does 4.3 0-100km
Is ur R stock ?
Stage 1 ecu going stage 2 next month 400hp 3.8 0-100 total spend $3000 and will beat alot of fancy cars lol
Jason Stockham did u change any parts with the tune bigger intercooler ? Or its not needed
Ecu upgrade from superchips Australia plus new downpipe and air induction kit thats it. Simple mods for a golf r rocket
Stage 3 needs bigger turbo plus intercooler etc.bigger expenses for not much gain.
I come from a v8 background & impressive as these cars may be they sound like absolute crap, seriously had farts with better note to them. Bike world nothing sounds as good as a Ducati , cars v8 sound beats all.
Never heard a v10 or an aprilia v4 ? And in my opinion this sounds better than the new rs6 but then all cars are getting quieter now unfortunately
Sounds good for an overpriced volkswagen