Why Didn't I AM ATHLETE work out...? (Ft. The Pivot Podcast) | Funky Friday Clips with Cam Newton
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2023
- In this thought-provoking episode of Funky Friday Clips with Cam Newton, Cam joins forces with The Pivot Podcast to discuss the reasons and Drama behind the I AM ATHLETE show. Cam and the hosts dive deep into the dynamics and intricacies of creating a successful sports-focused podcast and reflect on why the I AM ATHLETE venture may not have achieved the desired outcome. Together, they explore various factors that can influence the success of a podcast, including audience engagement, format, content, and chemistry among the hosts. Cam and the hosts of The Pivot Podcast offer their perspectives on what it takes to create a sustainable and thriving podcast, drawing from their own experiences in the sports and media industries. Through their honest and open conversation, they shed light on the complexities and nuances of podcasting, sharing valuable insights and lessons learned. Whether you're interested in the behind-the-scenes of podcasting or looking to embark on your own creative venture, this episode provides a wealth of knowledge and inspiration. Tune in to this engaging episode of Funky Friday Clips with Cam Newton and The Pivot Podcast to gain a deeper understanding of the challenges and considerations involved in the world of podcasting.
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He is correct because RC brings legitimacy to the Pivot with his analyst skills and he's a great lead. Channing provides the comedy and Fred will come with questions that take things deep and add another element to the interview. They fit perfectly.
Exactly
Plus major connections
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a.k.a. a professional.
Yes, They work together great! Like Voltron!
Ryan Clark has to be the best thing that couldve happened to them…when keeping it real goes RIGHT.
And vice Versa
Ryan brought a seriousness to the podcast. It is way better than the other show. It's like comparing 60 Minutes to TMZ.
Tmz was king before they sold out.
I am athlete was way better 2020-2021 when they we’re together, Brandon was a good compliment to Fred and Channing even though people feel like Brandon was fake
Facts
Big Facts & Ryan don’t try too talk over everyone, he lets them get their information out
@@goldie_box2904 that’s the only difference it’s a big difference but that’s it Brandon wasn’t bad just not better then RC😐
“You aint pay 11 million for no fucking podcast”- Fred💯😂😂
I’m just going to say it..The Pivot is SIGNIFICANTLY better than I Am an Athlete.
Totally agree
I think they both are noticeably worse than the original.
@@snickles5883nah the pivot is really good IAA ain’t been the same tho it’s not a bad show but it isn’t the pivot
@@snickles5883 Hn Brandon never let anybody talk they have real conversations on the pivot
Lol definitely. Once they left IAA I left with them. Haven’t watched it since!
Ryan adds validity to the podcast. Chan keeps it fun and light. Fred adds intentionality and insight. It all cooks up to be a really nice gumbo in the end.
This man Fred articulate all his thoughts with intention.
You know Fred is upset because he is cussing. Not cursing...cussing! 😂😂
Everything happens for a reason. I'm a huge fan of The Pivot❤
imho, thats old wives tale thinking, sometimes it was meant to be and sometimes you jus adjust to the curve balls of life. sometimes human beings are jus selfish, self absorbed butt holes and dont care who they step on or hurt to please they on desire
I'm a fan of both podcasts.
Yes!!
Facts
This is exactly why I rock with the Pivot. Solid people
It’s tough to do business when there’s no operating agreement in place first.
yea i think thats why we're here now
Yeah they also got screwed by a close friend, live and learn.
exactly
i agree & its expected of amateurs but you would think for folks that been in and out of million dollar contracts & business negotiations the last decade if not more would execute more effectively
@@OnlyOne1Demon it was his idea goofy, it’s called business,bills and life. Bro got a family to feed and unfortunately this world is cutthroat if you don’t take care of yo bread. I would’ve done the same thing especially if legally I’m allowed to do so.
You can tell Marshall is how he is when he talks about his career in general. Dude thinks he’s Randy Moss when he was really a healthy Plaxico
Idk bout that. Had Brandon marshall had better playoff success he definitely would be a hall of famer. His stats are crazy. Just no playoffs success. We never saw him in a superbowl or a championship game i believe
he's just not good at this and he thinks he's great..FS1 let him go quick for a reason
@@user-0781 so im right. Thanks idiot
this is the comment! everyone’s personality is similar to your finger print, no matter where u go or what you do your personality is going to come through & brandon definitely has a personality where he seems to always have to be number 1 or the top alpha of all the alphas, which in the end makes him a jerk
Nah dont disrespect his accomplishments over personal stuff youre not part of. 12k Yards and 83 Tds with a record for most catches in a game is an amazing career. Healthy or not Plax was not the same level of WR as Brandon. Lets not lie. Hes not Randy Moss but hes not your average reciever either.
One thing I can say is that Pivot’s story of the breakup has always been consistent. Idk if B Marsh’s attempt at taking the “high road” causes him to jump around alot but I just feel like he’s talking from both sides without saying what it is.
That’s just him, he do that shit in interviews to just taking all over the place
He's literally bi-polar. makes sense
As a female I liked I am athlete, I felt like when the nascar come on it started to go downhill. I really liked how they had Chef Nancy and the wives on. My only issue was how Brandon was all about self and hardly let others talk.
What happened to Chef Nancy🤔
I agree, and truthfully I don't even know where she went
He the only one who put money into the podcast so technically it was his show. All later negotiations aside.
They all have money but he wanted control. They left and are doing well and I haven't watched I am athlete since they left honestly
I like how Cam is very respectful
The foot kick at @5:10 is very telling lol
It was only to let Channing get a turn and not let Fred tell everything
Ryan kicked that foot like "aye, dont fan them flames."🤣🤣🤣
That’s how you’re supposed to talk about your friends.. lift them up when they deserve it. Stop thinking about yourself and see the bigger picture. Respect to that man 👌🏻
It's something about Fred T that makes me respect him. He seems like a no nonsense type of person.
That’s exactly what it is. He’s no nonsense. He only speaks when he absolutely has something to say and is willing to stand on it. Fred T got a lot of wisdom. One of those “quiet old souls”.
MY GOODNESS 🙌🏾🙌🏾These men are beautiful examples of multiple areas of life: business, relationships, vulnerability and transparency.
I love how candid Channing and Fred were. Everything they do I'm going to watch💯
I love Fred. Such a respectable dude. Reminds me of my dad.
I love me some Freddie T!!! There is something about him that draws you in without him saying a whole lot, but we he does speak well it's a wrap!!! The Pivot on of the top podcast out there!!!❤
Pivot is crushing I am athlete tbh, haven’t watched IAA in a year but watch pivot religiously
The 3 main problems were: 1) they didn’t get the business agreement set upfront 2) they didn’t wanna compensate bmarsh for the risk he took upfront by putting the money up 3) fucked up communication because of the egos and personalities.
Either way, it worked out bc they took everything they learned and used it on the Pivot and RC is amazing. Him holding that first chair let’s crazy Chan and cool Fred play their roles.
Well yea B Marsh def should've been able to recoup his initial investment. As a friend, I'd say well I'm not taking anything until you get all your money back. Once that happens though, the split needs to be 3 ways or whatever it was. BUT if this just were stock they'd continue based on initial investment. That's where BMarsh has a point. Of course each of their celebrities has value etc. But, BMarsh probably would own like 80% lol.
I agree. The financial stuff is tricky. Brandon took all the financial risk, so yea he should of gotten a higher percentage of the profit. They should of just given him back like three times his money or whatever the value of the show was and then start from scratch and split it all evenly.
Yeah thats where I agree with BMarsh despite me thinking he was the weakest member of the OG IMATHLETE pod. If we talking about net and gross, Brandon should definitely have been able to recoup what he invested at the very minimum after paying employees. But it seems like there were financial disagreements beyond even that. Brandon felt like it was his shit because of what he put in an that Fred and them were hired talent rather than partners.
He put all his money into IAA gym not the podcast they started that together. Fred and Chan wanted ownership of the podcast they started together not his gym. Brandon been had the IAA TH-cam channel before the podcast but it was getting the attention until the podcast jump off
Amen! Whole thing is miscommunication. They didn’t didn’t discuss operational. That’s bmarsh justification
Ryan tapped Fred’s foot to signal to let Chan talk before it got messy 😂
Yup I peeped that!!😂
Just caught that 😂
I thought I was tripping at first then I rewatched it and now I can’t unsee it haha!
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Great catch
For those of you that looked at iamathlete from the beginning knew that it was going to go downhill for a number of reasons.
1. Brandon would always interrupt his guests and even talk over fred and channing.
2. The me me me type personality was already a narcissistic sign that the rest of the cast wasn’t going to put up with for long.
3. When they started to incorporate nascar drivers into their podcasts it began to become less and less interesting to watch.
The nascar thing I saw was highlighting the black culture behind the scenes in a predominantly white sport. It was nice to see because the 2 brothers they interviewed work for Joe Gibbs Racing it made me want to visit the facility even more because I work 3 buildings down from it
I knew it was coming to many egos
@@michaelmurphy7241 I think one particular ego messed it up for everyone. I see these guys on the pivot now, it works because there are no egos.
It’s really simple he asked them to work they wanted to own mans had his vision from the start and didn’t want to change it’s really not that deep
It was going to fail. Because everyone wants to be a Boss.
I don’t believe in equal equity. Just because there are 4 people involved doesn’t mean everyone gets 25%. You either put up the capital for ownership or you ask how much your sweat equity will be worth in terms of ownership. If none of that is situated and you start getting paid for your services; unfortunately, you’re an employee. You can always get independent valuation for new value once you have the believe or capital to invest. Have to remember, the ones who take the biggest risk usually take the biggest reward. Don’t care how talented you are.
While I do agree with your initial statements, that’s is simple business but I think it didn’t start out that way for them. It’s one of those things where you say let’s try it if it works it works and after it worked you say it’s mine
Well Spoken Fred and Chance, I respect yall for sticking together.
I feel like the NFL should hire Fred Taylor as a mentor to all young players, but more specifically players, that maybe are a little lost. He just has that, “I’ve seen some shit” vibe that dudes will follow
If Brandon would have said “Yo, here’s my initial investment, let me recoup that and then we move on as partners” it would have shown he appreciated their value. But he didn’t want them to buy in from his initial investment, he wanted them to buy in at the current value after they’ve built something together. BMarsh made a business move to friends that helped him build something
Ppl keep saying Brandon cannot put a number on what he invested and that don’t make sense to me. You have to know what you initially 🙄
He definitely needs to recoup, but also idk if it should have been equal splits afterwards. Outside of the initial money, how much time and work was everyone putting in? It's more that makes a podcast than just sitting down in front of cameras. You have to come up with Agenda, take business meetings, marketing, advertising, social media etc. If the guys just came and sat down for the recording then that's no ways an equal partner.
@@yohearmeoutpodcast I thought so too and Brandon mentioned that as well however Fred mentioned the sweat equity where Brandon wasn’t paying them or the whole production crew at the time either so they put work in as well free.
@@alexciasommerville9514 That's true so basically back pay!
@@yohearmeoutpodcast You can never recoup for time spent on creating a business. Only the money part, because you have bank statements for evidence of payment.
I freakin love this conversation and Channing was spot on about taking care of your people and as a team, making a unified decision together.
Ryan Clark is a gem of a talent. He was an amazing football player. Only to find out that off the field he’s a 1 of 1. No question the greatest acquisition in the transition.
I will forever remember when Brandon Marshall and Chad Johnson got into a screaming match during their interview with Andre Johnson lol. That was the beginning of the end for me.
I thought they found magic over there on "I AM Athlete" Brandon brought the heart and fire, Fred the gift for channeling wisdom,empathy, and experience, Channing brought the gift of humour and talking about the elephant in the room, and Chad was a mixture of all of them and he balanced out Brandon's passion and fire when needed.Once again the love of money brought down something Magical I would even say Godsent.. Brandon's feelings I truly believe were right, it was headed somewhere big, the evidence of that is we are still talking about it, but unfortunately the love of money blinds sight and corrupts hearts.
Facts. Money is tied to survival bills being paid health insurance cars clothes. When money is threatened survival is threatened. Money can definitely be the root of evil. People sell coke heroin cause McDonald’s Walmart jobs aren’t really a livable wage unless you wanna live in the hood where your kids have a high risk of dying or joining a gang etc. Money creates a severe domino effect in our lifestyles. Families end best friend end over money often.
Lend your homeboy $2500 and he never pay you back and see if you still be his friend if he don’t pay you back.
Bro I'm about to copy and paste this everywhere if you don't mind!!!!
This comment was on point bedside making being capitalistic sound so condescending. These guys all but confirmed b marsh's version. Now, they wanted him to say fuck it we're pal's let's split it and he's thinkin business, leverage, marketing deals the whole nine. I agree with you but not that anyone's wrong
@@PieceodapieGtfoh that was a sucka move by Brandon. I'm glad they left and doing their thing. That show ain't been the same since the split. The show worked because of the collective so they deserve atleast 30-32% for Fred and Chan and Brandon gets the rest. I bet they wasn't offered no where near that.
@@Pieceodapie that’s not true even Brandon said it didn’t start out as a business, it was buddies podding and then HE turned it into business
RC and Bomani are some smart brothers. not taking anything away from anyone else, just giving those men props. highly intelligent
Bomani is not smart at all🤣🤣🤣
Lmao you dudes are impressed by people that can tie their shoes😂
@@deeznutz8320 thats what im saying😭🤣
Get your paperwork together upfront to prevent issues like this. Ultimately it worked out for these guys. I think the Pivot is probably the dopest sports podcast out there and more entertaining than I Am Athlete
Dawg wen it’s ya homies nobody every thinks about paper work wen it’s pure besides the one dude looking for a money grab and that’s the sad part
@@Hiphop_Love and that’s the problem. How many stories do we need to hear about these podcasts and friendships ending bcuz they didn’t have the business right upfront? In business you get what you negotiate and if it ain’t on paper then you’re asking to get burned. Money can come between the best of friends.
@@iamjamesmeeksexactly, business is business no matter who you're partnering with.
@@wadecountybabe facts 💯
@Hiphop_Love this ain't your meet at my mamas house podcast, they spent 100s of thousands. Homies or not, paper work needed
This is a team and teams win. Love the maturity a respect these gentlemen have. Once this logic is found and applied everyone wins.
I believe Fred 1000%. Brandon was feeling himself way too much and wasn’t even the star of the show. He was mainly the face.
Facts… however if he was putting money up front and no one else was then that down the middle is going to be different. That’s not how business works. I put that money in. You didn’t okay I’ll pay the overhead and then we can split it 70-15-15 you didn’t put anything at risk-
It was Brandon's idea and he recruited these guys. He was not the face. Please give him his credit. What was these guys doing before he approached them?
He put up the money
Fred just admitted out of his own mouth that he didnt put up any money. lol i believe him too, because thats consistent with what B.Marshal said. Fred was talking for 15min straight not saying much of anything of substance. He wanted to share equally in the profits, while not taking on any of the financial risk. That is not how business works bro.. and if you would put up all of the capital, and then share profits evenly with someone who put up no capital, youre a FOOL too
@@getofab721 and how do you know about the conversations behind the scenes?
The pivot has definitely surpassed I am athlete.. soon as Chan and Fred left I’ve maybe seen one or two IAA pods
Pivot has all the people we want to see. Glad to see them do well
There’s a level of respect between these three that only comes from lessons learned.
Freaky Fred on a Funky Friday.. Freshest in da game 💯
Let me tell you when this podcast, I Am Athlete, came out during Covid-19 it was geound breaking. Having these amazing players who experienced the game in distinct ways- Reggie Wayne, Ocho, Channing, Freddy T, and B Marsh helped me understand so much for the game. B Marsh definitely after first 2 seasons segwayed into NFL affairs and his wife's clothing line, which is fine but how we handled his partners was not cool. He showed many narcicist ways and I understand why they had to move on.
I appreciate the Pivot so much and I still listen to the other podcast at times. The direction it's gone is much different and not in the most favorable way. The figurehead is apparent and there's a lot of spinning plates.
RC is that truth! Love the way he speaks and breaks shit down
I see all the comments, and here's what I'll say. BOTH shows r dope in there own way! Sometimes ppl don't mesh well for whatever reasons and leave it at that. I love watching content from all those guy including Cam's podcast...Keep doing yall thing and we'll tune in 👏🏾
The pivot trio has a bond that only a few can create and there loyalty means more to them then just money and those are the type of men you want to see eat and succeed to the fullest
I see both sides... if Brandon took all the risk upfront, I can't blame him for owning all the equity. I also see their side... they feel like partners, not employees. Clear communication and paperwork upfront clears most of this up.
Owners don’t just show up a couple days a month. They know what they were. He said sweat equity lmao
@@carterl4757 actually yes they do
Imagine you start a company and the workers you hire demand 25% of the company. That's crazy.
thank you!!! niggas show up to a well-oiled machine, sit on a couch, talk some shit, and think they own the place. no nigga, you a vendor
Yeah I don't quite agree with the equal split. I'm down to split, but just not equally
That’s your issue. You seeing them as WORKERS. They wasn’t workers. They also put their money into it, and expected a reasonable share. Ain’t shit wrong with that
@@ChrisDMV301 they litterally just said they didnt put money in it. sweat equity is not money
That part
This show brings better content. No ego’s just information. Very enjoyable! Great guest.
That's how we have to learn to talk to each other. One man speaking, one man listening...
I loved IAmAthlete but B Marshall made it hard to watch at times as he’d cut someone off mid story or just start yelling. He’s not a mediator at all. Ryan does a great job of formulating a well rounded question bringing things back full circle, and he lets them answer. It’s a very respectful team here.
Fred a real one for his talk on RC and Cam needs to sign with the Falcons asap!!
And that’s how you WIN, together! Everyone, is in AGREEMENT!!
I like that….. this new show not the old show. Ryan definitely bring more. Classy dude and can’t help but to respect his steps as a man.
11 million for a podcast THATS WILD
Because it didn't go into the podcast. That is what Brandon invested into his Gym House of Athlete. Then he merged it with the podcast and that's where the issues stem from.
In my opinion, Fred and Channing has similar a mentality about business which I think is not correct. You get paid a profit for what you own (equity) and you get paid a salary for what you do (the work). Fredy and Channing wanted to come to work as a speaker and wanted to get paid for owning. This is cool, however, there is more to a busienss than just coming to speak. There is marketing, sales and operations. So if you are coming to speak, just like I am, but I am left handling the other areas of the businss, and I put up more money, then how is it fair to split profits equally? Under Sales, Marketing and operations, there are the following just to name a few items: hiring, firing, promoting, video editing, production, the vision of the company, how do we make revenue, what do we do with the revenue and profits, future guests, guest managment, coming up with a structure to paid everyone, handling risks, etc...
Also, even if you put up more money than me, I can bring more value to the busienss because I may have more connections. So when Fredy says, hey let's split things down the middle, that is a very basic way of doing business and someone will also feel like they are doing more. The biggest issue is they all didn't sit down in the beginning and discuss all the details and potential point of agreements. Also, when you bring disrespect into the equation then the money and all that talks goes out the window. It seems like B Marshall brought the disrespect in and I respect Fred and Channing for walking away.
I hope that they can have a sit down and talk about these things because money should come inbetween the brotherhood man. It was sad to see, but both parties are at fault here and it seems like Fred and Channing are still operating like spliting things is correct and not taking these other things into consideration. Everything is great, when you not making any money lol, but partnerships usually fail when the money starts to come in and all the items have not been talked about AND the partners have different philosophy of how things should go. Every partnership has dis agreements, the partnerships that last are the ones that know how to work through those disagreement and no contract in the world can solve disagreements. With the right partner no contract is needed, with the wrong partner, no contract in the world can keep ya together.
These are just my thoughts from watching both sides talk covertly about it lol.
Typically, if you are not getting paid upfront in a startup, you are paid in equity (ownership). That's standard.
They didn't get paid upfront and they were a part of the core product so it's a fair assumption.
I think the point seems more valid for Channing, it sounds like Fred/Marsh reaffirm he was talent, paid salary and cool with it, same as Ocho. However, Marsh and Fred both affirm Fred putting in and wanting Equity, now the AMOUNT of equity was the negotiation. If they let lawyers figure out, maybe salvageable, however what everyone who watched them all could imagine, in seeing Marsh be the LOUD and WRONG guy, how can you negotiate with that. He also appears to have selective memory/outrage, so for Channing who knows what he also might have promised him (equity) beyond salary. In hindsight we are better off for it, IamAthlete was 1.0, the Pivot w. RC is 2.0. RC being the new QB of interviewing and what he carries is MUCH better than Marshal trying to QB
“Let’s Keep It Funky Now” 😂😂💯
I think we should celebrate both parties for the strides they’ve made and understand that it was okay for the original cast to have an expiration date
Move forward, look up the front window to the future. The rear view was the past! No more energy for negative vibes!!! Y’all keep it pushing to greatness. Inspirational,Truth,Wisdom,& Shared information with love ❤️
STFU. HE WAS ASKED A QUESTION AND HE ANSWERED IT. FRED AINT A BULLSHITTER. NEVER HAS BEEN.
Fred rarely talks so you know when he's talking it's serious
It's Ryan bumping Fred's foot for me, 🤣🤣 and Fred hesitating 🤣
Love them and Cam is a big dude. 😮❤
Why we still living in the past the pivot is fire no need to keep bringing up the old situation
I'm saying the same thing. Why is this being discussed again??
Because they can. Nobody’s making y’all watch.
@@D_A_Marv this is a old clip from last year. I guess can saw it on cheetahs podcast and took this clip almost as a response but if you look at the original video it’s last year
@@QueenSuga405 ain’t no one make you reply either could’ve skipped right past the comment
@@happy_2b_nappy but I didn’t, now what?
Channing has said what I’ve been saying from the breakup. Just look at the revolving door at IAA. When you start seeing guys consistently leaving and not coming back that means the business ain’t right. I knew what it was when Reggie, Fred, Channing, DJ, and OCHO left and never returned the business over there was shitty
Didn’t they replace Pac-Man with desean Jackson now?
I didn’t even know Reggie Wayne was involved with it. When I first started watching them it was brandon, Fred, chad and Channing
@@EJ-gx9hl the original 4 was BMarsh, Fred, Reggie, Channing. Then it was BMarsh,Fred, Channing. Then Ocho was added. Then Fred and Channing left and it was BMarsh, Ocho, DJ, and Shady, then BMarsh, Ocho, Shady, and Pac-Man. Then it was Bmarsh, shady and Pac-Man, then BMarsh, Shady, and Ashley, now it’s bmarsh, DJac.
@@TRELL3132 lesean McCoy isn’t there anymore? Man, they change hosts more often than the Kardashians change men. Props to you for keeping up with the revolving door
@@EJ-gx9hl idk if shady is gone completely or not because BMarsh brought his name up in the interview with the Charlo twins. But everybody else is gone I think when the dust settles it will just be BMarsh, Shady, and Ashley. Pac-Man was riding hard with BMarsh and now he’s gone so idk what happened with that deal
@@TRELL3132 that show went down the drain when Channing and Fred left. Well it started with the whole nascar thing but at least Channing and Fred were still there.
The IAA LA was super garbage
Ryan's wearing the toddler jeans, my nephew be rockin
I am athlete is garbage now, so glad they made the pivot, best sports podcast out there
TOP DAWGS IN THE PODCAST GAME 🙏🏻🔥
Why won’t Fred of Channing ever talk about the money they put up for I Am Athlete ?
I am athlete was already an established brand. so why would they put money into an already established brand that wouldn't bring them a return... it isn't rocket science.
@@AlexiusS so why are they asking for equity if they didn’t want to invest? Fuck all that sweat equity’s bs. Put some skin in the game if you want to play
@carter that’s what I’m trying to figure out…. You didn’t want to invest. BM put all his money in and Fred said “sweat equity”… what’s that??
B wouldn’t let them invest. He said he was taking care of the production because he was doing it for his Gym but he promised Fred’s sweat equity would be valued for dollars but then switched up and said here’s a talent fee, I’m not giving you equity. They joined b on the premise of a partnership.
I think things got messy when B Marsh started pushing his wife’s brand onto the Podcast after it got popular. It started off as dudes choppin’ it up amongst themselves to B Marsh bringing all of the wives on and promoting his wife’s clothing line.
Iam woman yeah that shit was cringe
I respect it. I wish all sides the best in the future.
They have one of the best podcast out right now. Pivot for the win
I don't agree with Channing. I don't pay everything out of my pocket, you kick back and once everything is finished we split it 4 ways. That's foolish to even think that
Facts
Exactly. If I put in the most the math says my return is the most
Thank you! I see why B Marsh had an issue. The fact Channing came on here saying that ish like it’s right and everybody else agreeing makes them look bad.
Dats how da shit goes...wat R y'all even talking bout❓🤔 Yeah, u get ur money back for everything u spent, and pay everybody dat had something to do wit da show, but We bust down da profit together... equally‼️ Dats how it goes....either dat R We leave and start our own shit and u get da PIVOT aka competition‼️🤷🏿♂️
Sad situation. I see both sides. The “idea” and risk of “initial investment” is worth A LOT, in my opinion. Had Brandon asked them for upfront buy-in before proof of concept, they probably wouldn’t want the risk.
I’ve learned it’s really easy to get “partners” after you show them the money.
This is the most fair take I’ve seen
Likewise.. as the "talent" you want to be paid as the money rises...
But if I'm 300k in before you say a word, you're an employee intitally. Renegotiating is on the table at some point, but it's not for ownership of shit I've already took the risk on.. more so, the percentage you're being compensated.
That’s the problem. Brandon never approached it that way. When they noticed the podcast start to take, he went behind their back to secure paperwork and told them that they work for him now. You don’t do that to people you started a project with.
They didn't want to buy into Brandon's gym House of Athlete, which was the parent company. And they shouldn't. They were only concerned about the podcast, not house of athlete, not I am Nascar, I am Woman and all that other BS
@@starttheconvopod that's not true they said it themselves that Brandon asked them to buy in but they both didn't want to take the risk until they saw it work then they wanted in after he started putting the money in. There is no behind the back of he asked them and they didn't want to put up the money at first
Got to say I called this in one of the early IaA episodes when I saw B Marshall store being advertised, some of the faces the other guys made when they were cut off, even before the big argument episode. I'm just happy both sides seem to have landed on their feet. Thanks Fred and Channing for confirming Ocho was just there to pod and hang out and didn't care about the money. It needed to be said. And shout out to Ryan for not chiming in and being ever the professional
I like their new podcast A BUNCH👍🏽 very good content💯
It broke my heart to see these brothers break up like that,but I wish them all the very best,let’s not make it messy and petty.
Same. I know absolutely nothing about football but they were the first podcast I watched entirely and loved. The original crew for sure
omg how long will this be the subject!! why not just get Brandon and them on one show and have them talk it out!!!
.... greed broke them apart! so sad, but not surprised! Love both shows!
Take a shot everytime cam says “yes sir” 😂
its clear that everybody thats a millionaire does not necesarily know business. These guys dont understand that you dont share equally in the profits, if you dont share equally in the risk. If the podcast had failed, the full financial risk was on B Marshall because he's the one who would have lost money. You cant count sweat equity if B Marshall is also putting in sweat equity as well.
I started not to watch this cause it felt like they was just gon dance around it again but nope lol. Fred kept it real and said everything he felt.
I like the pivot better because they actually let people tell their stories without interrupting
Raw report 🔥🔥🔥
I think anyone who is a pretty good judge of character can see B Marsh is a narcissist and a liar.
NOT ME.
how is he a liar, if Fred and Channing just said in 4K that they didnt put any money up, but still wanted to share the profits evenly. lol they litterally are confirming what BMarshall said, but you dont understand business so you dont even understand what youre listening to. you just falling for their passionate speach
Why do they keeo having to answer this when the 1st time they were asked they answered it perfectly. They started it as something to do for fun with covid and once brandon saw where it could go he tried to not only make it a job but be the ring leader to dudes who were cool with just doin it for the fun
Straight talk 🦜! Keep it 💯❤️ brothers 👌💪
RC be kicking that foot when Fred start trailing off LOL like the 3rd vid I seen him do that...
The Pivot is a way better production than I am Athlete. It is not even close!
Bro it’s not like one person left, the entire cast left that’s a sign. The guys that B Marsh has now are 1099 contractors maybe with some equity.
Everytime I see a clip of IIA they have a brand new cast everytime. I have no idea who that lady and light skin dude is on there now lol
Nobody got equity over there accept bmarsh. He’s not giving anyone anything, that’s why everyone leaves
@@MikeBNumba6 facts! Hiring the cheapest contractors
@@ogflowers1578 sad that man wants the pie to himself.
Love the Pivot
I heard the other side first and sounded good but I’m rocking with these guys seems more legit
Brandon thought because he was on ESPN he didn't have to split the pot.
5:10-5:17 rc kicks fred. Fred said toooooooooo much boiiii😩😩🤣
Nobody better come for my Pivot Famm (my sUns). I can peek at all podcasts but seriously love the Pivot for the human stories.
♡Love how Fred (the quiet) spoke
Fred xo Chan ☆ RC♡
Don’t matter!!! I literally watch the pivot more now anyway!!! It’s something about B Marsh that jus off for me personally…..
The pivot put a stain b marsh. I feel most feel this way afte the break up. Tbf i don’t think what he did was completely wrong. Depend on the person you ask. A boss would agree with Bmarsh. A employee would agree with the pivot.
@@carterl4757 I feel ya….. I stilll watch both shows myself
Fans were getting tired of Brandon behavior anyway. You see how fast the pivot blew up and IAA down down. Only thing saved Brandon was Ocho Cinco.
Both platforms put out great content 👍
I still watch both. Respectfully
I do understand Brandon BECAUSE HE CREATED THE VISION... he asked yall to come thru but this was his vision and I believe since Brandon put his money in it he should have majority stake i. The business.... the best way to show that you are looking into ownership is putting your money into it. Honestly i wish they would come together and have conversation in peraon
This sounds like it makes sense! So why is everyone (pivot squad) talking like that’s not how any person would look at the situation?! I put majority money in. You didn’t … so we can not split it equally 3 ways… 4 ways if you add Ocho.
How we know that Brandon actually put his money up to start it up.
@@205impala true… right now we just have his word that he did