It is not people making it out to be a big deal - IT IS BRANDON WHO IS MAKING IT A THING!!! HE HAS SHOWN THAT HE BELIEVES HE IS A BETTER BUSINESSMAN THAN THEY ARE...
I like how Channing explained that his team told him that the main thing which was PAPERWORK didn't add up. He ain't mad or personally tearing B,Marsh up. He sounds like a lesson was learned.
The issue is that Fred didnt come with the money when it was high risk. He then tried to put money in after the risk was lower and the value was higher. He tried to put in cash on the lower valuation. Most workers will never understand the boss side of things. While Fred is SUPPOSEDLY waiting on financial he is doing zero behind the scenes administrative stuff while Brandon is doing all the boss sh. Hey below average people. Things change as a business grows. It's that simple. Fred could've put the administrative and money in contingent on a certain valuation. Then put in more or less when they finally got the financials and projections.
So they didn’t wanna be a part of the initial start up but once it took off they wanted to help pay back the investments and then dictate which lane to go in. I think if you’re given an opportunity to be coowner/partner and you opt to be a worker instead,then you put yourself on that side of the business. Just my opinions
On other occasions they've all admitted, including Brandon that Fred tried to get the paperwork from Brandon to invest but he didn't provide it for over a year. He wanted them to invest after he spent more money on his brand and not just the Podcast.
@@WHATTEASAID you forget marsh had his advisers show all them the paperwork fred aint wanna invest till i hit and when it he wanted add his small percentage and he wanted a quarter but he didnt he took a fee
@albertdaley9093 that's not true. He wouldn't show them the paper work for over a year. He had made investments in his brand and then showed them the numbers. Everyone involved admitted to this. You can't include your outside ventures that only you benefit from. There were other issues with his expectations but he didn't show the paperwork for over a year.
Crowder is definitely the most entertaining, Taylor is definitely that dude and RC is probably the most well rounded overall. A great team no doubt. Don't miss Brandon Marshall at all.
Hold on y’all mad at Channing for speaking on this when him and Fred never speak on it to begin with !!!!! They always having to respond from B marsh constantly speaking on it for clout because the old crew left him and the new crew left him too !! He needs to stay relevant ! Channing and Fred leveled up and doing they thing just making they’re show better and minding there business… B marsh speaks on them not the other way around l, they are being asked questions about it constantly and they never speak ill bout B marsh but B marsh talking the most shit bout them 🤷🏾♂️ call a spade a spade B Marsh acting like a female bout the situation
Nothing is new under the sun...this lesson - make sure you have paperwork on your business - has been around since day 1; folks need to remember and adhere to it!!
T.I son probably did have some arguments in school because of his dad is famous. He probably wasn’t really struggling but he was getting tried because of the silver spoon.
Lets see something the pot cost 1 mill its four of us 250k a piece we all invest lets say we make 100mill now we all eat 25 mill a piece , now lets say i added the whole 1 million and im payin yall out my pocket now the full profit comes to me cuzz yall aint invest also yall didnt want to lose money on top i respect that now you cant get mad you not getting the same amount as me i took the risk now wat channing said is how about brandon add the pot then when it blow ill add my pot in but im not addin the same amount i still want the same pie hell no thats crazy channin you cant wait till it blowed also brandon said yall listen to his advisors yall also didnt listen
Not going to lie they did Brandon dirty they didn’t believe in it early on so they didn’t invest and then wanted to invest when they seen it going somewhere. But instead of paying the new investment cost they too k the sauce and started they own thing😂 boy it’s a dirty world
They was fine with paying the new investment but the new investment paperwork didn’t add up & Brandon was trying to get them to invest in the gym as well but they didn’t wanna do that they wanted to invest in the pod
@@FrankGallagher-OG The gym is just a component of the Vision. If you are thinking he was only looking at gyms you are missing the point. I AM ATHELETE IS THE UMBRELLA COULD HAVE BEEN THE BIGINING OF A GIGANTIC MEDIA CONGLOMERATE WHICH ALL OTHER BUSINESS FALL UNDER. THE COUKD HAVE CORNERED THE MARKET. SPORT SHOWS. HEALTH AND WELLNESS ECT BUT NOW THEY ALL ARE WATERED DOWN TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. WORKING FOR SPONSORS....
Chan n fred wanted a podcast, bm wanted an empire. They didn’t agree on the vision n the jump of upfront income that would take. They were right, u didn’t need an “I am” everything
This is sad! Both sides can tell y’all that they ain’t know what it was gonna be so there was no investment. Instead, y’all make up in your own heads that there was an initial investment by BM even though he NEVER SAID IT. Please for the love of God, don’t say his investment was lights, cameras, and a production team. He knew as well as anyone else that wants to start a lucrative business that there was gonna be start up cost. Everyone and they mama gotta pay for the basics in order to get off the ground. Now a year is more than enough time to accumulate data and funds to see how lucrative the podcast really is and can be in the future. So it is not a bad idea for ALL PARTIES INVOLVED to look at the paperwork and come up with a gameplan of how the money is split and what is the income/expenses. They are homies starting something new so that should be expected. Selective hearing is just as bad as crack and most of y’all is on it 🤦🏾♂️
you mean " it's hard to manage a gym, not own.... " Look at Earl Sweatshirt!! He owns and manages a gym! All types of life including celebrities go there to workout! So therefore just know you don't like to manage one but owning one? Sheesh, you might wanna hit up Earl Sweatshirt for that advice KING! If you don't know who that is, ask around!
I see soo many people how things work that doesn’t have a business and has no idea what they’re talking about. B Marshall overplayed his hand and it backfired. B Marshall being new to owning businesses.. you are last to get paid.. you are the first to lose.. b Marshall fcked up because he originally said we splitting pie equally.. he tried to be greedy.. and he thought he was the show.. even though he may have paid for things.. they brought value through other things which made show big as it was.. he got his money back and he should of paid each person equally .. take the L to that battle to win the war
@@ricardocampbell8430 me slow .. ha thats funny.. im a entrepreneur and fully understand business. Yes he funded it initially but that was his choice and originally the agreement was they would split it after season one. I can tell you what happened.. he saw the traction and money coming in.. he no longer invested.. he used the money from media to fund everything. And when they asked about the books he no longer wanted the original deal. It didn’t take millions to film because they already owned the equipment from beginning.. what he did was incorporate his other businesses under umbrella and tried to make them invest into that which wasn’t the agreement. It was supposed to be podcast only.. he originally said they were partners but once he saw the money .. he then said fck that deal and said he the boss now lol .. yes he originally put up money but that was his choice.. but their on air talent was investment too .. remember no one got paid first season.. the show made waves because of talent and the initial investment. But part of being partners is being honest and straightforward.. im in media space and know those numbers are either for gyms he owns or made up because production is nowhere near that including food and travel
Bro yall spent 30 mins on this😂… also keep your business agreements off the internet bro because you don’t know how your partner feels about a particular statement. Business is tricky.. that I know
How did the narrative switch to Brandon started talking first and wouldnt stop? Lol The Pivot were the first to break the ice RESPECTFULLY on the situation and continued to speak on it. B.Marsh aint start talking about it until later!
@@deondagoat no after they initially spoke on it Fred did a interview by himself speaking on it, they went on Bussin wit the boys podcast and spoke on it, dog I heard them on more than one podcast speaking on the situation before Brandon ever spoke a word about it
Notice only one side keeps bringing up the drama. Bad Business Brandon keeps talking about Chan and Fred to stay relevant. If you don’t believe me, go look at IAA’s numbers and compare it to The Pivot. The Pivot crew is doing just fine
I remember channing sayin he aint wanna invest cuzz he aint wanna take the lost with that bein said you are employees simple channin got no loyalty and hes greedy and fake any friend ask you to invest and you say no you rather take a check and he still pays you and turn your back cuzz you not gettin a splitnof the invest pie but you was getting paid tho is slimey ass friend now yall wanna invest and do another show all of sudden when he was tryin to put yall on the same game just more
Brandon merged his gym which was already under 10mil with the podcast and wanted the proceedes of the podcast to makeup the loss of the gym and they didn't agree with it. They also didn't agree with the Nascar series so they left
@@devinpayton7475 again fake ass friends they still got paid left him dry Brandon was thinkin bigger gyms waters different types of incomes if you dont want a friend who will put you then you a grimey ass friend too
I’m confused was the investment in the podcast or IAA the brand? Podcasts investment shouldn’t be at 1 million dollars anybody can start up a podcast I was thinking the investment was for the whole IAA brand like the training facilities etc. I think that was the disconnect between all parties and with no paperwork that’s what made things messy.
@ericw7519 they initially started with just the podcast but brandon wanted to grow and promote his business and eventually combined the gym which was under 10mil with the podcast and fred wanted equity instead of per episode so when he didn't like where it was going and wanted his part out, Brandon and him didn't agree on a number
It is not people making it out to be a big deal - IT IS BRANDON WHO IS MAKING IT A THING!!! HE HAS SHOWN THAT HE BELIEVES HE IS A BETTER BUSINESSMAN THAN THEY ARE...
Stop hating on BM and keep following these fake dudes
So?
we ALL know, if Channing Crowder didn’t like Brandon Marshall, he would say every word of if.
Never heard of this podcast but just gotta say the production looks amazing. Looking forward to listening to more conversations.
Appreciate you tapping in with us.
Brandon Marshall is just a guy who you really don't want to do business with. I knew the pod would fall apart when Brandon started arguing with Ocho.
I like how Channing explained that his team told him that the main thing which was PAPERWORK didn't add up. He ain't mad or personally tearing B,Marsh up. He sounds like a lesson was learned.
Lmfaoo channin said he aint wanna invest from the jump he rather take fee yall ears failed to listen
@@albertdaley9093 he also said the paperwork wasn't right, like the other two said. 😂
@@WHATTEASAIDwhat paperwork, he ask to get paid per episode so he wouldn’t have to invest. Stop being brainwashed grownup duuuuummmmmmmyyyy
He also said that B was very disrespectful in the way he spoke to him
Sick and tired of them talking about this split. Move on!
I agree
We all want them to stop talking about it but we’re still giving it our views and attention on everyone else’s podcast.
I mean the interviewer keep asking them
They’re ask the question, blame it on the interviewer!!!
Back pedaling about his comments about Brandon too !
So Brandon low balled him, and he said oh hellll nah!😂
The issue is that Fred didnt come with the money when it was high risk. He then tried to put money in after the risk was lower and the value was higher. He tried to put in cash on the lower valuation. Most workers will never understand the boss side of things. While Fred is SUPPOSEDLY waiting on financial he is doing zero behind the scenes administrative stuff while Brandon is doing all the boss sh. Hey below average people. Things change as a business grows. It's that simple. Fred could've put the administrative and money in contingent on a certain valuation. Then put in more or less when they finally got the financials and projections.
If that’s true than Brandon was right
Welp now the iam athlete is ruined.. how is it looking now
Brandon is an amazing boss huh
This isn't accurate... he asked Brandon to share the Financials. He came in saying he'd put the money in but he wanted transparency on the numbers.
The issue is that you dont know WTF you are talking about😂😂😂😂
This is the 1st time that him or Fred spoke in a positive light
So they didn’t wanna be a part of the initial start up but once it took off they wanted to help pay back the investments and then dictate which lane to go in. I think if you’re given an opportunity to be coowner/partner and you opt to be a worker instead,then you put yourself on that side of the business. Just my opinions
Yup exactly how it sounds like foul ass friends tbh i wouldn't never wanna be friends with them after he just said that
On other occasions they've all admitted, including Brandon that Fred tried to get the paperwork from Brandon to invest but he didn't provide it for over a year. He wanted them to invest after he spent more money on his brand and not just the Podcast.
@@WHATTEASAID so Fred wanted to invest from the very start?
@@WHATTEASAID you forget marsh had his advisers show all them the paperwork fred aint wanna invest till i hit and when it he wanted add his small percentage and he wanted a quarter but he didnt he took a fee
@albertdaley9093 that's not true. He wouldn't show them the paper work for over a year. He had made investments in his brand and then showed them the numbers. Everyone involved admitted to this. You can't include your outside ventures that only you benefit from. There were other issues with his expectations but he didn't show the paperwork for over a year.
Business just means someone is getting screwed 😂
Crowder is definitely the most entertaining, Taylor is definitely that dude and RC is probably the most well rounded overall. A great team no doubt. Don't miss Brandon Marshall at all.
I’m glad I watched this. I wouldn’t have see it if it didn’t come up on my feed. As a new businessman with a partner this was def educational.
💯💯💯
Shout out to the classic "NBA Jam" game playing in the background for my old heads including me! Lol
Dude in the Versace didnt meduse when he looked in mirror! Clean! No ice in the tea! just sugar!
They didn’t want the risk at the start Brandon took the risk and then everyone wanted to re hash everything once it took off 😪
Hold on y’all mad at Channing for speaking on this when him and Fred never speak on it to begin with !!!!! They always having to respond from B marsh constantly speaking on it for clout because the old crew left him and the new crew left him too !! He needs to stay relevant ! Channing and Fred leveled up and doing they thing just making they’re show better and minding there business… B marsh speaks on them not the other way around l, they are being asked questions about it constantly and they never speak ill bout B marsh but B marsh talking the most shit bout them 🤷🏾♂️ call a spade a spade B Marsh acting like a female bout the situation
Where the hell you been the last two years. They went on a tour talking about that dude and now that BM is speaking out y’all are in your feelings
@@ricardocampbell8430 i was about to say the same thing
They explain why they left and deaded the situation. Brandon was the one who brought it up again. Where have YOU been 😂
@@ricardocampbell8430 ‘
Nothing is new under the sun...this lesson - make sure you have paperwork on your business - has been around since day 1; folks need to remember and adhere to it!!
I love the growth and maturity in his response
Fire episode
Business, family and no blueprint
Make another HOV
I made another HOV bars
Thank you
💯💯💯
T.I son probably did have some arguments in school because of his dad is famous. He probably wasn’t really struggling but he was getting tried because of the silver spoon.
Lets see something the pot cost 1 mill its four of us 250k a piece we all invest lets say we make 100mill now we all eat 25 mill a piece , now lets say i added the whole 1 million and im payin yall out my pocket now the full profit comes to me cuzz yall aint invest also yall didnt want to lose money on top i respect that now you cant get mad you not getting the same amount as me i took the risk now wat channing said is how about brandon add the pot then when it blow ill add my pot in but im not addin the same amount i still want the same pie hell no thats crazy channin you cant wait till it blowed also brandon said yall listen to his advisors yall also didnt listen
You have to pay your talent the right value. What he should’ve done is ask for them to make him whole and then they can split the pie right
Meanwhile Brandon can keep a cold longer than a co host
If he put up most of the money then he deserves a bigger cut. At the end of the day Pivot is cool but I am athlete was better.
Not going to lie they did Brandon dirty they didn’t believe in it early on so they didn’t invest and then wanted to invest when they seen it going somewhere. But instead of paying the new investment cost they too k the sauce and started they own thing😂 boy it’s a dirty world
Facts bro thought I was the only one 😂💯
They was fine with paying the new investment but the new investment paperwork didn’t add up & Brandon was trying to get them to invest in the gym as well but they didn’t wanna do that they wanted to invest in the pod
@@FrankGallagher-OG i can’t go to apple and say “hey i just wanna invest in the iPhone and none of your other products “
@@FrankGallagher-OGstop lying fool. House of Athletes was already a functioning and successful business so stop letting them brainwash you
@@FrankGallagher-OG The gym is just a component of the Vision. If you are thinking he was only looking at gyms you are missing the point. I AM ATHELETE IS THE UMBRELLA COULD HAVE BEEN THE BIGINING OF A GIGANTIC MEDIA CONGLOMERATE WHICH ALL OTHER BUSINESS FALL UNDER. THE COUKD HAVE CORNERED THE MARKET. SPORT SHOWS. HEALTH AND WELLNESS ECT BUT NOW THEY ALL ARE WATERED DOWN TO A CERTAIN EXTENT. WORKING FOR SPONSORS....
HEY MAN PRODUCTION ON THIS IS AMAZING KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
I mean they basically stole b marsh business plan
In any business setting your employees and partners get paid before you recoup your full investment.
Chan n fred wanted a podcast, bm wanted an empire. They didn’t agree on the vision n the jump of upfront income that would take. They were right, u didn’t need an “I am” everything
I’m glad they split Brandon new show ass 😂😂😂😂😂 the pivot wayyy better
This is sad! Both sides can tell y’all that they ain’t know what it was gonna be so there was no investment. Instead, y’all make up in your own heads that there was an initial investment by BM even though he NEVER SAID IT. Please for the love of God, don’t say his investment was lights, cameras, and a production team. He knew as well as anyone else that wants to start a lucrative business that there was gonna be start up cost. Everyone and they mama gotta pay for the basics in order to get off the ground. Now a year is more than enough time to accumulate data and funds to see how lucrative the podcast really is and can be in the future. So it is not a bad idea for ALL PARTIES INVOLVED to look at the paperwork and come up with a gameplan of how the money is split and what is the income/expenses. They are homies starting something new so that should be expected. Selective hearing is just as bad as crack and most of y’all is on it 🤦🏾♂️
They been talking about this for like two years even after they all said they wouldn’t. I’m sick of it. Lol.
Bruh how in the hell is grown men still going back and forth about issues that’s 2 + years old.
Frfr beating a dead horse just like Rory and Mal leaving jbp. Ok we get it ask better questions stop asking same shit
Maybe because he was asked about it..
The funny part is you're serious. He's being interviewed; they asked?
They keep asking man smh it’s what theses podcasts do so they viewers can hear it
😂😂😂
People that say The Pivot is the OGs of Podcast are very ignorant to the knowledge and history of Podcast
That light skin dude shady. He said nah we not family. Channing was like oh😮
Please give it a break, we sick of hearing y'all grown men crying move on Please!!
Never knew. Thank you
I wish the Twinkie in the Kilt on ESPN the mercies of Murphy's Law from Z film X
Ya gotta ask the real questions… WTF Happened to Chef Nancie?!!?
How many times are they gonna tell the same vague story
I never seen him speak on it.
Did they initially invest,I’m just asking
No and when they try to they try to add crumbs when the pots was 100s of thousands thats like you add 500k right and i try 35k after you been puttin
Why damn near ever podcast with multiple people always split over money
Still talking about the split
Yall made about them talking about the split but it’s always Brandon talking about it. He’s hella bitter and he knows he fumbled the bag
you mean " it's hard to manage a gym, not own.... " Look at Earl Sweatshirt!! He owns and manages a gym! All types of life including celebrities go there to workout!
So therefore just know you don't like to manage one but owning one? Sheesh, you might wanna hit up Earl Sweatshirt for that advice KING!
If you don't know who that is, ask around!
We still talkn about this according to BMarsh yall didn't pay sht so what we talking about 💯
Exactly they foul ass friends
My dads T.I.
Well, you can have whatever you like.....
😂
Aint no payin that back how if you aint invest wtf yoo
Breakfast club is not a podcast. Also, Combat Jack the OG of podcasting. Maybe
I see soo many people how things work that doesn’t have a business and has no idea what they’re talking about. B Marshall overplayed his hand and it backfired. B Marshall being new to owning businesses.. you are last to get paid.. you are the first to lose.. b Marshall fcked up because he originally said we splitting pie equally.. he tried to be greedy.. and he thought he was the show.. even though he may have paid for things.. they brought value through other things which made show big as it was.. he got his money back and he should of paid each person equally .. take the L to that battle to win the war
He invested all the money so stop being slow Mr Brainwashed
@@ricardocampbell8430 me slow .. ha thats funny.. im a entrepreneur and fully understand business. Yes he funded it initially but that was his choice and originally the agreement was they would split it after season one. I can tell you what happened.. he saw the traction and money coming in.. he no longer invested.. he used the money from media to fund everything. And when they asked about the books he no longer wanted the original deal. It didn’t take millions to film because they already owned the equipment from beginning.. what he did was incorporate his other businesses under umbrella and tried to make them invest into that which wasn’t the agreement. It was supposed to be podcast only.. he originally said they were partners but once he saw the money .. he then said fck that deal and said he the boss now lol .. yes he originally put up money but that was his choice.. but their on air talent was investment too .. remember no one got paid first season.. the show made waves because of talent and the initial investment. But part of being partners is being honest and straightforward.. im in media space and know those numbers are either for gyms he owns or made up because production is nowhere near that including food and travel
You guys troll hunting right?
Brandon fumbled the bag BIG TIME
Money split friendship all the time
Bro yall spent 30 mins on this😂… also keep your business agreements off the internet bro because you don’t know how your partner feels about a particular statement. Business is tricky.. that I know
Whoever the dude is in the Versace shirt lame as hell with that Alicia Keys comment.
The side you pick tell us what type human u are
How did the narrative switch to Brandon started talking first and wouldnt stop? Lol The Pivot were the first to break the ice RESPECTFULLY on the situation and continued to speak on it. B.Marsh aint start talking about it until later!
Because they spoke on why they left and never brought it up again until BRANDON said something again. Have you not been paying attention 😂😂
@@deondagoat no after they initially spoke on it Fred did a interview by himself speaking on it, they went on Bussin wit the boys podcast and spoke on it, dog I heard them on more than one podcast speaking on the situation before Brandon ever spoke a word about it
Notice only one side keeps bringing up the drama. Bad Business Brandon keeps talking about Chan and Fred to stay relevant. If you don’t believe me, go look at IAA’s numbers and compare it to The Pivot. The Pivot crew is doing just fine
I am athlete sucked anyway Brandon Marshall is horrible to listen to he try to sound smart but he is a not that smart
I remember channing sayin he aint wanna invest cuzz he aint wanna take the lost with that bein said you are employees simple channin got no loyalty and hes greedy and fake any friend ask you to invest and you say no you rather take a check and he still pays you and turn your back cuzz you not gettin a splitnof the invest pie but you was getting paid tho is slimey ass friend now yall wanna invest and do another show all of sudden when he was tryin to put yall on the same game just more
Brandon merged his gym which was already under 10mil with the podcast and wanted the proceedes of the podcast to makeup the loss of the gym and they didn't agree with it. They also didn't agree with the Nascar series so they left
@@devinpayton7475 again fake ass friends they still got paid left him dry Brandon was thinkin bigger gyms waters different types of incomes if you dont want a friend who will put you then you a grimey ass friend too
@@albertdaley9093 why would they take on the debt of Brandon's failed gym. You want to pay my debt for me
I’m confused was the investment in the podcast or IAA the brand? Podcasts investment shouldn’t be at 1 million dollars anybody can start up a podcast I was thinking the investment was for the whole IAA brand like the training facilities etc. I think that was the disconnect between all parties and with no paperwork that’s what made things messy.
@ericw7519 they initially started with just the podcast but brandon wanted to grow and promote his business and eventually combined the gym which was under 10mil with the podcast and fred wanted equity instead of per episode so when he didn't like where it was going and wanted his part out, Brandon and him didn't agree on a number
Brandon bipolar and shady business man
You faking hunting whales!
Old news
The mozzies are biting. time for Kodak Black!
Omgosh is he a chick?
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Bruh enough!!!!!