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I was also told that the reason it is pancakes is that it is a good way to use up milk and eggs, so that they will not go to waste from a month of fasting.
Linguist here. This is a good way of explaining the lion speaking English thing: imagine the lion gives this advice to you (in English); "When slime smells on the rocks, you can drink from cold places" - which actually means (but there would be no way for us to figure this out without knowing their subjective experiences) "when snails and slugs emerge and leave their slime trails over wet rock surfaces, then it has obviously rained recently, you can find water in low-lying shaded water holes". But again, it would just sound like gibberish without the prerequisite information from their own personal experiences... But wait! it gets worse! since they would also name everything differently and so 'slime', 'rocks', or any noun you can think of would also be different. They'd need to point objects out to you and tell you what they've named them, one at a time, before you could even begin to decipher what they're talking about. And god knows what words they would use to describe physical reactions or emotions, or perhaps they speak ONLY in the context of emotions, which would be very confusing if all conversational context relied on understanding what emotion they're talking to you from. (eg: a human sarcastic smirk, or a furrowed brow in anger, wouldn't be understood by even some uncontacted human tribesmen, let alone another species) hope this helped, and wasn't just boring as hell to read. I love this kind of stuff :P
Sooo… you could decipher them? In principle. Which means the metaphor is wrong. It actually proves that language would have to be inseparable from thought in a very basic sense and universal to a human nature. You cant even metaphorize past the boundary of language because the very concept of comparing presupposes purposes and intentions of human thought/consciousness, which can’t be compared to anything except itself. Hence the common confusion and categories errors with comparing human thought to, say, a computer.
The thing isn't so much differing vocabulary, after all if something "speaks English" then I think by definition it calls a rock a "rock". But rather than its entire way of thinking would be different. These guys speculate that the lions only do things like eat, sleep, and the other thing because those are the only things which are interesting to us, but they will have whole mental worlds around things like socialisation within prides, grooming, status and intimidation, and so on which we just have no frame of reference to understand. The lion would be referring to concepts (like some version of being 4th in the pecking order after a kill) which just wouldn't make sense to us because humans have no experience like that. I'm sure we could learn to understand one another, but that's not really the point, the point is that language is more than just vocabulary and grammar.
I used to find it hard to understand the thought about the lion but realise there's literally kids out there today who speak English but you cant understand them. "my G you got skibidi toilet rizz no cap" (My friend you are very bad at flirting)
Shrove Tuesday / Pancake Day is the day before the start of Lent (Ash Wednesday). On this day, it was traditional for Christians to eat pancakes or other foods made with eggs, butter and fats that had to be used up before the beginning of Lent.
Wittgenstein’s quote reflects his broader philosophy of language: meaning arises not from individual words but from the shared context in which those words are used. Language develops within a shared culture and set of experiences, and without this common ground, even perfect linguistic translation can fail. A good illustration of this is the Star Trek episode “Darmok.” The aliens’ language is entirely metaphorical, referencing stories and symbols from their culture. While the universal translator deciphers the words, Captain Picard still finds their speech incomprehensible because he doesn’t share the cultural stories that give those metaphors meaning. Wittgenstein’s lion would face the same challenge-its language would reflect a way of life entirely alien to us, making true understanding impossible. A real-world example can be found in humor. While working in Poland, I told my secretary the Marx Brothers joke: “Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.” Despite being a proficient English speaker she couldn't quite understand why the joke was funny. She understood all the words and the "grammar" of the sentence-even the metaphor of time flying like an arrow-but it still didn't make much sense to her as a joke. For her these were just two tenuously connected true statements. But for native speakers, with a shared cultural context, we get the joke because the ambiguity of the indefinite article "a" before "banana" is understood, and thus creates the pun.
Maybe that’s what he thought. But what the explanation is doing is proving that the lion quote is in fact wrong and a bad metaphor. In all of your examples it was in fact possible to convey meaning between cultures. Even quite vast differences. Which would not be possible be possible with a lion but is with a human (or humanoid alien I suppose) precisely because they have language-not merely communication, but language. Which is a totally unique and diff thing. Language and thought are not separable the way, say organs in the body or whatever would be. Probably not separable at all. So if a lion truly could speak English they could also think at a human level and thus it would be in principle possible to understand. It’s a faulty linguistic understanding.
"Pancake day" is Shrove Tuesday (part of the religious calendar), so it's always a Tuesday, but of course you can have them any other day of the year too.
The air date of the show, doesn't correspond to the air date of the audio used for the source material. Which is why I didn't put it on the video title as people would think these things were said in 2010, when in fact the audio is from 2005
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Pancake Day/Tuesday... The tradition of making pancakes on Shrove Tuesday comes from families using up all ingredients in their cupboards so that they can start Lent the next day. The ingredients - eggs, flour and milk - used to be very common things for people to give up for Lent, so it made sense to use them all up.
9:50 i think i remember hearing about that feral child, i think she was Russian or Ukrainian and she was neglected as a child, and was semi-raised by stray dogs, so she did walk on all fours and snarl and bark at people, she did grow up and she's back to being a normal human today, and apparently doesn't remember a lot about her childhood
Shrove Tuesday is pancake day and we make them and toss them up in the air ... often disasterously, much to the enjoyment of children! Some villages have pancake tossing races!
Yeah with the lion stuff I think it's less about the action and more about the feeling, waking up - finding water/food - avoiding danger, we know what that feels like but from the perspective and experience of a lion it would be so different we wouldn't actually understand, almost like how people in rough parts of the world have struggles that we might have as well but to such a different degree - even if they spoke English we wouldn't actually know what that specific experience feels like lol love u two ❤ thank you thank you ❤
I've been with my wife for 28 years and we've never asked about each other's money. If she needs money I give it to her and vice versa, or if we need to pool for something we do and we discuss large purchases, but aside from that your money is your money.
Same! Both got our own separate bank accounts and money. If either of us need anything, both of us are comfortable enough to ask. Been happily living this way for 15 years.
“Pancake Tuesday” is Shrove Tuesday, the last day before lent, where traditionally certain foods such as abstinence of meats and animal products. So families would have a small get together with food etc to eat and not waste food in the larder. A good way of using up eggs and milk is to make loads of pancakes (UK pancakes are much closer to crepés than what you have the states). Any religious meaning is mostly gone form public norms, but we kept the pancakes because pancakes, and some folks choose to give up a vice for lent if at all.
7:20 Cultural differences. Marriage in most countries of Europe isn't seen as a necessary step as in the US. We're much less conservative when it comes to these things. What matters is that children are protected by law, so marriage doesn't bring any benefits other than reducing taxes a little. The idea of marriage as a "necessary step" for a couple is very strong in the US, and many of us in Europe don't understand it.
Karl has done alright .... according to Wiki he now lives in Sandbanks, Dorset which is one of the richest places in England, a real Millionaires Ghetto. Still with Suzanne ..... and for our UK viewers Suzanne was a Producer on Match of the Day
Didn’t know he lived there, it costs a fortune to get anything on that strip….on these he says she was a sports reporter but this was 10 or more years ago ! 🫣👍 any good man?
Working with Shearer, Ferdinand and worst of the worst...Lineker! Hopefully the attitudes of those charlie uniform november tangos didn't rub off on her
Way back in 1974, Thomas Nagel wrote the book, "What is it like to be a bat?". It's still going and had a 50th anniversary issue with some further thoughts published last year. Briefly (very briefly), it addresses the mind-body issue and consciousness: so a lion's mind and body is significantly different from a human and moreso with a bat (echo locating, sleeping "upside-down" etc.) and you could argue, for example, that, from a crab's point of view, it's we who walk sideways! Back in the 1970s biologists were extremely reluctant to admit that animals might have a form of consciousness but now there's a considerable amount of research and one of my favourite books (published 2022) is "How Dogs Love Us" where a neuroscientist actually trained compliant dogs to undergo MRI scans whilst various tests were undertaken (such as showing a picture of their owner etc.).
Pancake Tuesday is genuinely old as it's connected to Lent and known also as Shrove Tuesday. The fun aspect of this a lovely mix of the old and the modern.
Pancake Tuesday = Shrove Tuesday, its to celebrete the beginning of lent (I think) and christians are supposed to use up what ever they have in the pantry, which was usually flour, eggs & milk(apologies to any Christians if I've got this wrong). In the uk this is normally in February, but this year because Easter is later its 4th March. 👍🏻
It`s called Shrove tuesday and is a religious thing: The expression "Shrove Tuesday" comes from the word shrive, meaning absolution following confession. Christians traditionally visit their church on Shrove Tuesday to confess their sins and clean their soul, thus being shriven (absolved) before the start of Lent.
We can eat pancakes whenever we like but English pancakes are different from American pancakes (ours are more like crepes) and they aren't usually eaten for breakfast. Pancake Tuesday (or Shrove Tuesday) is the day before Lent. Lent on the Christian calendar marks the first of 40 days of fasting before Easter. People would use up all their eggs and milk and have a pancake feast before Lent. Shrove Tuesday is also called Fat Tuesday (you may be familiar with Mardi Gras which is the French name for this day) or Carnival (which derives from Latin and means meat removed) because no meat, or rich foods, were allowed during Lent (eggs and milk fell under this category).
I don’t actually know of any non American chain or anywhere in the uk that actively sells pancakes. And with the lion.. Imagine 2 PHD master degree on the top of their game talking to each other about string theory and you’re present they’re talking English but you wouldn’t understand a lick of what they’re saying.
The problem is he thinks lions are simple creatures lmao. He thinks all they know is eat, sleep, sex. Hes extremely uneducated when it comes to nature. Thats the issue here.
I've been with my missus for 23 years. We both have to keep telling people we're not getting married or having kids. People think we're weird. We're just non-conformists to tradition and it works for us. Wish people would just get over it.
Strange thing is you guys will be the conformist soon enough the way life trends are changing. Give it fifty years marriage will the new rebellious rock and roll. Weird in'it?
Plus, if everything goes tits up she won't be able to rob you blind. Every man should be doing romantic relationships like this, if she demands marriage then she's only after your money and property.
@El_Smeghead. It's no one else's business but yours. I've had the same thing. Maybe start asking them some very personal questions when they start. Talk over them too whilst asking. It shuts them up and they get the message. 😆
@@user-fl8yv7rz6f there's fjnancial benefitss to marriage as well lol, plus you can write up conditions for what happens to your assets on the occasion of a split.
It's a shame they left out a lot of fan favorite segments from the animated show, such as Knob News, Cheeky Freak of the Week, Rockbusters and Educating Ricky.
Majority of all that is from XFM. These were sourced from the podcasts afterwards. The sound is a lot better and easier to use compared to the XFM stuff
1:20 i feel your comedy goes noticed at times :D couse your very soft with it . The you don't no what's in my cup as you love your cup that says coffee xD. It's like an old-school slap stick routine.
Pancake day is the colloquial name for shrove Tuesday, which is the equivalent of Mardi Gras in the US. Basically before lent you would traditionally use up all your eggs and flour etc. to make pancakes before starting your fast (although these days it's more of just an excuse to have pancakes).
The point Karl's making about pancakes is that on Shrove Tuesday everyone goes a bit mad and makes pancakes and it's almost like if you didn't there's something wrong with you like you're a bad parent or something. The corollary of this is that nobody makes pancakes any other time - or so it seems. But pancakes are a totally decent food. I once made and flipped about 200 of them for a group camping weekend, serving them with both sweet and savoury toppings, and about 25 baked potatoes for anyone still hungry. I probably wouldn't do that again but it's a fun memory!
We have Taco Friday in Sweden. Hmmm… I love spending some time with you and the RSK trio. Can’t fucking WAIT for the Karl Comes Home episode of An Idiot Abroad. It’s pure gold, my American friends… 🥂
It would be nice to see what Susan looks like but I don't think there's any photos or information about Susan, one thing for certain is she must bloody love him.
Thanks guys, fantastic as always! And a Q for others.... I've heard these eps before, but just in their Ricky Gervais Show form... for listeners of thingFM, isn't it that Ricky introduced Monkey News as "it's MONKEY NEWS yer.... !%$X£rs!" or some kind of swearing at the end that's cut out. It always sounds that way to me even though if it is, they edited it out each time for this, but I could be wrong. I'm asking so that if Mike and Jess see this they will know also, otherwise I will take some time out to listen to some of the uploads of the original radio show here on YT)
Enos was scheduled to complete three orbits, but the mission was aborted after two, due to two issues: capsule overheating and a malfunctioning "avoidance conditioning" test subjecting the primate to 76 electrical shocks. According to one history of primatology, "The chimpanzee, about five years old, behaved like a true hero: despite the malfunctions of the electronic system, he conscientiously performed all the tasks he had learned during the entire flight of over three hours...Enos demonstrated that he was careful to successfully complete his mission and that he perfectly understood what was expected of him
I think there would be some common things: food, toilet, sleep, my pride ... which we would all understand - but nuances of lion behaviour more tricky and vice versa!
I believe what Karl is trying to convey is; "The needs of the many, out weighs the needs of the few...or the one." - - Spock. Star Trek.- - Because there are more fishes they get more or better treatment or rights ? ... maybe? Then again. Who knows, when it comes Karl it is often a Hmm. I've Never thought of it that way. But he's right. Sometimes.
Karl has a point on the caveman theory. Albert Einstein famously speculated, “I don't know with which weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
Not sure if you edited the swears with your Monkey News impression, but you missed out the best bit. At the end, Ricky is showing how he's always irritated by Monkey News so he cuts off an F-bomb. What he's actually saying is 'oooo, Chimpanzee-that, Monkey News, ya fu-' (ya/you fuck/fuckin').
Over thirty-two non-human primates flew in the space program; none flew more than once. Numerous backup primates also went through the programs but never flew.🐒
@RNTV being a country with a long heritage, yes Pancake or Shrove Tuesday is a very big event. The next day is Ash Wednesday the start of Christian / Catholic Lent. It has a 2000 year history dating to the bible.
You should watch some interviews with Graham Hancock who believes there was an advanced civilization before ours which was wiped out. He has some interesting reasons and examples of why.
Brilliant monkey news impression. 😃 For the purposes of accuracy only. Chimpanzees and other such species are not classified as monkeys. Now, not all monkeys have tails, which makes it an improper signifier in the other direction. But apes do not. Most of these bogus stories would appear to centre around primates from the ape branch. Yes, I fully meant that terrible pun. Them calling it Monkey News as a sort of cheaky 🐒 endeavour, further perpetuates this slur like inaccuracy. 😜
for example: Tree is the name we humans gave that living thing. A lion, that only SPEAKS English , would not call it a tree. It would describe it from a lions perspective, how they think about it. For example they would simply call it shade place or camouflage for hunting. I don't speak lion but that's the idea of this situation. It would talk English but not use the language as we humans do, we have names for everything and they would not. They wouldn't even call themselves lions, because that's our name for them.
English people only eat pancakes on the 1st Tuesday in the month of March. Scottish people and some Irish people eat pancakes almost anytime that they like.
@@saintdon4461 True. Asda have been making pancakes for years and there's always a few trays of them on the reduced section at 9pm. Value hunters from the Carpathian mountains are always there to snap them all up.
Pancake day IS A CHRISTIAN DAY, KNOWN AS SHROVE TUESDAY. IT REPRESENTS THE START OF LENT it is in preparation for a 40 day fasting leading to Easter, that is the real meaning of it
On the subject of the Lion and the human not understanding each other, if I spent 30 minutes talking about Sheffield Wednesday to you, you wouldn't have a clue what I was on about. It's really not that complicated a theory 😂
When Darwin discovered the Moth wasp (Ichneumonidae) that plants its eggs into the abdomen of a caterpillar, which they then eat their way out of when they 'hatch', he said “I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars.”
Karl seems to think that the world was created for humans, like all animals should have a use for humans or they wish they were humans. He doesn't know why we have beetles around, like they should have a use for humans. That's what make me laugh the most about Karl. His children cartoon view of the world is hilarious.
9:36 Kids are not the same as a lion. Think about it! You said if you were a lion, hello you have a human reverence point you don’t even understand how a lion thinks
"He just needs to marry her." No. No he doesn't. Why the hell would you get the government involved in a legal contract that incentivizes her to break it.
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It's actually called "Shrove Tuesday", google it!
Pancake day is on Shrove Tuesday, based in religious tradition eating suchlike prior to fasting at Lent. Tuesday 4th March this year.
You having trifle then?
Right, then Sheffield Wednesday follows it.
@@lyndoncmp5751 lamb ;)
Also known as Mardi Gras (fat tuesday) in French. I think they'll know about that one.
I was also told that the reason it is pancakes is that it is a good way to use up milk and eggs, so that they will not go to waste from a month of fasting.
Linguist here. This is a good way of explaining the lion speaking English thing: imagine the lion gives this advice to you (in English); "When slime smells on the rocks, you can drink from cold places" - which actually means (but there would be no way for us to figure this out without knowing their subjective experiences) "when snails and slugs emerge and leave their slime trails over wet rock surfaces, then it has obviously rained recently, you can find water in low-lying shaded water holes". But again, it would just sound like gibberish without the prerequisite information from their own personal experiences... But wait! it gets worse! since they would also name everything differently and so 'slime', 'rocks', or any noun you can think of would also be different. They'd need to point objects out to you and tell you what they've named them, one at a time, before you could even begin to decipher what they're talking about. And god knows what words they would use to describe physical reactions or emotions, or perhaps they speak ONLY in the context of emotions, which would be very confusing if all conversational context relied on understanding what emotion they're talking to you from. (eg: a human sarcastic smirk, or a furrowed brow in anger, wouldn't be understood by even some uncontacted human tribesmen, let alone another species)
hope this helped, and wasn't just boring as hell to read. I love this kind of stuff :P
Sooo… you could decipher them? In principle. Which means the metaphor is wrong. It actually proves that language would have to be inseparable from thought in a very basic sense and universal to a human nature. You cant even metaphorize past the boundary of language because the very concept of comparing presupposes purposes and intentions of human thought/consciousness, which can’t be compared to anything except itself. Hence the common confusion and categories errors with comparing human thought to, say, a computer.
The thing isn't so much differing vocabulary, after all if something "speaks English" then I think by definition it calls a rock a "rock". But rather than its entire way of thinking would be different. These guys speculate that the lions only do things like eat, sleep, and the other thing because those are the only things which are interesting to us, but they will have whole mental worlds around things like socialisation within prides, grooming, status and intimidation, and so on which we just have no frame of reference to understand. The lion would be referring to concepts (like some version of being 4th in the pecking order after a kill) which just wouldn't make sense to us because humans have no experience like that.
I'm sure we could learn to understand one another, but that's not really the point, the point is that language is more than just vocabulary and grammar.
I used to find it hard to understand the thought about the lion but realise there's literally kids out there today who speak English but you cant understand them.
"my G you got skibidi toilet rizz no cap" (My friend you are very bad at flirting)
Shrove Tuesday / Pancake Day is the day before the start of Lent (Ash Wednesday). On this day, it was traditional for Christians to eat pancakes or other foods made with eggs, butter and fats that had to be used up before the beginning of Lent.
Wittgenstein’s quote reflects his broader philosophy of language: meaning arises not from individual words but from the shared context in which those words are used. Language develops within a shared culture and set of experiences, and without this common ground, even perfect linguistic translation can fail.
A good illustration of this is the Star Trek episode “Darmok.” The aliens’ language is entirely metaphorical, referencing stories and symbols from their culture. While the universal translator deciphers the words, Captain Picard still finds their speech incomprehensible because he doesn’t share the cultural stories that give those metaphors meaning. Wittgenstein’s lion would face the same challenge-its language would reflect a way of life entirely alien to us, making true understanding impossible.
A real-world example can be found in humor. While working in Poland, I told my secretary the Marx Brothers joke: “Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.” Despite being a proficient English speaker she couldn't quite understand why the joke was funny. She understood all the words and the "grammar" of the sentence-even the metaphor of time flying like an arrow-but it still didn't make much sense to her as a joke. For her these were just two tenuously connected true statements. But for native speakers, with a shared cultural context, we get the joke because the ambiguity of the indefinite article "a" before "banana" is understood, and thus creates the pun.
Maybe that’s what he thought. But what the explanation is doing is proving that the lion quote is in fact wrong and a bad metaphor. In all of your examples it was in fact possible to convey meaning between cultures. Even quite vast differences. Which would not be possible be possible with a lion but is with a human (or humanoid alien I suppose) precisely because they have language-not merely communication, but language. Which is a totally unique and diff thing. Language and thought are not separable the way, say organs in the body or whatever would be. Probably not separable at all. So if a lion truly could speak English they could also think at a human level and thus it would be in principle possible to understand. It’s a faulty linguistic understanding.
"Pancake day" is Shrove Tuesday (part of the religious calendar), so it's always a Tuesday, but of course you can have them any other day of the year too.
The air date of the show, doesn't correspond to the air date of the audio used for the source material. Which is why I didn't put it on the video title as people would think these things were said in 2010, when in fact the audio is from 2005
Hahahaha that was a great monkey news impression thought we were on for a monkey bonus for a minute
Perfect timing 2pm UK, sit down coffee and Regen Reaction, my daily routine 🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️👍🇬🇧
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Poor Karl! The way he's spoken to.What a rebel! He's so funny. 😆
poor suzanne more like! he's a tight a**e
Pancake Day/Tuesday...
The tradition of making pancakes on Shrove Tuesday comes from families using up all ingredients in their cupboards so that they can start Lent the next day.
The ingredients - eggs, flour and milk - used to be very common things for people to give up for Lent, so it made sense to use them all up.
Jess has the most beautiful laugh 😊
What a weird sentence from Jess "I would leave you a message with my slime" imagine hearing that without context. 😂
Had a girl break up with me like that before 😂
This is what I stopped to comment about too 😂
Said with such innocence 😄
I read this before watching the video and yes it's very strange.
I hope it's what I think it means having seen this episode before. 😂
It would be even weirder coming from a bloke.
9:50 i think i remember hearing about that feral child, i think she was Russian or Ukrainian and she was neglected as a child, and was semi-raised by stray dogs, so she did walk on all fours and snarl and bark at people, she did grow up and she's back to being a normal human today, and apparently doesn't remember a lot about her childhood
Cheeky freak of the week. Steve and Ricky probably wouldn’t believe Karl if he talked about this 😂
Theres a documentary about it on youtube..
Shrove Tuesday is pancake day and we make them and toss them up in the air ... often disasterously, much to the enjoyment of children! Some villages have pancake tossing races!
Karl pulled the Forest Gump move here lmao, he led us all the way to nowhere and then he just left the ship😂
you are right about the lion.. all they would say is "hungry".."im gonna get me some azzz" "im off for a snooze"
Yeah with the lion stuff I think it's less about the action and more about the feeling, waking up - finding water/food - avoiding danger, we know what that feels like but from the perspective and experience of a lion it would be so different we wouldn't actually understand, almost like how people in rough parts of the world have struggles that we might have as well but to such a different degree - even if they spoke English we wouldn't actually know what that specific experience feels like lol love u two ❤ thank you thank you ❤
Many years ago I saw a film of Kafka's "Metamorphosis" - the most disturbing thing I've ever seen. It's not been repeated on TV either.
Is it worth a watch?
Monkey news was crackin jess 😂👍
There is about 60 monkey news stories from the XFM days prior to these few they did for the podcasts
I've been with my wife for 28 years and we've never asked about each other's money. If she needs money I give it to her and vice versa, or if we need to pool for something we do and we discuss large purchases, but aside from that your money is your money.
Same! Both got our own separate bank accounts and money. If either of us need anything, both of us are comfortable enough to ask.
Been happily living this way for 15 years.
@@andreashessler838 Whatever works for you, hey. 😊
Her monkey news jingle was 🤌
I'm just imaging Karl explaining to a lion that he's 40p up with Suzanne, and asking if the lions up with his partner.
I’ve read METAMORPHOSIS - it gave me shivers
“Pancake Tuesday” is Shrove Tuesday, the last day before lent, where traditionally certain foods such as abstinence of meats and animal products. So families would have a small get together with food etc to eat and not waste food in the larder. A good way of using up eggs and milk is to make loads of pancakes (UK pancakes are much closer to crepés than what you have the states). Any religious meaning is mostly gone form public norms, but we kept the pancakes because pancakes, and some folks choose to give up a vice for lent if at all.
There is 3 hours of Karl doing monkey news complications on TH-cam. It’s amazing. The show only put about 8/9 on but all together he did about 60/70
7:20 Cultural differences. Marriage in most countries of Europe isn't seen as a necessary step as in the US. We're much less conservative when it comes to these things. What matters is that children are protected by law, so marriage doesn't bring any benefits other than reducing taxes a little. The idea of marriage as a "necessary step" for a couple is very strong in the US, and many of us in Europe don't understand it.
Karl has done alright .... according to Wiki he now lives in Sandbanks, Dorset which is one of the richest places in England, a real Millionaires Ghetto. Still with Suzanne ..... and for our UK viewers Suzanne was a Producer on Match of the Day
Didn’t know he lived there, it costs a fortune to get anything on that strip….on these he says she was a sports reporter but this was 10 or more years ago ! 🫣👍 any good man?
Working with Shearer, Ferdinand and worst of the worst...Lineker! Hopefully the attitudes of those charlie uniform november tangos didn't rub off on her
Way back in 1974, Thomas Nagel wrote the book, "What is it like to be a bat?". It's still going and had a 50th anniversary issue with some further thoughts published last year. Briefly (very briefly), it addresses the mind-body issue and consciousness: so a lion's mind and body is significantly different from a human and moreso with a bat (echo locating, sleeping "upside-down" etc.) and you could argue, for example, that, from a crab's point of view, it's we who walk sideways! Back in the 1970s biologists were extremely reluctant to admit that animals might have a form of consciousness but now there's a considerable amount of research and one of my favourite books (published 2022) is "How Dogs Love Us" where a neuroscientist actually trained compliant dogs to undergo MRI scans whilst various tests were undertaken (such as showing a picture of their owner etc.).
My grandad died peacfully in his sleep, unlike the passengers on his bus, who all went out screaming .🤣
Pancake Tuesday is genuinely old as it's connected to Lent and known also as Shrove Tuesday. The fun aspect of this a lovely mix of the old and the modern.
Bringing up Kafka's "Metamorphosis" made me think of Norm Macdonald's "Moth Joke".
Pancake Tuesday = Shrove Tuesday, its to celebrete the beginning of lent (I think) and christians are supposed to use up what ever they have in the pantry, which was usually flour, eggs & milk(apologies to any Christians if I've got this wrong). In the uk this is normally in February, but this year because Easter is later its 4th March. 👍🏻
It's also a day that Karl passionately dislikes for some reason
So if Jess goes missing one day, Mike's going to check the garden for slugs, just in case....😂😂
Hopefully she'll leave him a note at the kitchen table saying, "popped out for lunch at the compost heap(or Florida equivalent) "
this setup is dope, its great for a podcast too(just a idea)
It`s called Shrove tuesday and is a religious thing: The expression "Shrove Tuesday" comes from the word shrive, meaning absolution following confession. Christians traditionally visit their church on Shrove Tuesday to confess their sins and clean their soul, thus being shriven (absolved) before the start of Lent.
Pancake Tuesday was once a year 😂
They are more like French crepes than American pancakes also, thin and large, fold them over with a filling, or golden syrup poured over.
We can eat pancakes whenever we like but English pancakes are different from American pancakes (ours are more like crepes) and they aren't usually eaten for breakfast. Pancake Tuesday (or Shrove Tuesday) is the day before Lent. Lent on the Christian calendar marks the first of 40 days of fasting before Easter. People would use up all their eggs and milk and have a pancake feast before Lent. Shrove Tuesday is also called Fat Tuesday (you may be familiar with Mardi Gras which is the French name for this day) or Carnival (which derives from Latin and means meat removed) because no meat, or rich foods, were allowed during Lent (eggs and milk fell under this category).
I don’t actually know of any non American chain or anywhere in the uk that actively sells pancakes.
And with the lion..
Imagine 2 PHD master degree on the top of their game talking to each other about string theory and you’re present they’re talking English but you wouldn’t understand a lick of what they’re saying.
The problem is he thinks lions are simple creatures lmao. He thinks all they know is eat, sleep, sex. Hes extremely uneducated when it comes to nature. Thats the issue here.
I've been with my missus for 23 years. We both have to keep telling people we're not getting married or having kids.
People think we're weird.
We're just non-conformists to tradition and it works for us.
Wish people would just get over it.
Also a traditional wedding sounds like such a damn hassle. My parents got married at the city counsel building and I respect that so much lol
Strange thing is you guys will be the conformist soon enough the way life trends are changing. Give it fifty years marriage will the new rebellious rock and roll. Weird in'it?
Plus, if everything goes tits up she won't be able to rob you blind. Every man should be doing romantic relationships like this, if she demands marriage then she's only after your money and property.
@El_Smeghead. It's no one else's business but yours. I've had the same thing. Maybe start asking them some very personal questions when they start. Talk over them too whilst asking. It shuts them up and they get the message. 😆
@@user-fl8yv7rz6f there's fjnancial benefitss to marriage as well lol, plus you can write up conditions for what happens to your assets on the occasion of a split.
It's a shame they left out a lot of fan favorite segments from the animated show, such as Knob News, Cheeky Freak of the Week, Rockbusters and Educating Ricky.
Majority of all that is from XFM. These were sourced from the podcasts afterwards. The sound is a lot better and easier to use compared to the XFM stuff
1:20 i feel your comedy goes noticed at times :D couse your very soft with it . The you don't no what's in my cup as you love your cup that says coffee xD. It's like an old-school slap stick routine.
Pancake day is the colloquial name for shrove Tuesday, which is the equivalent of Mardi Gras in the US.
Basically before lent you would traditionally use up all your eggs and flour etc. to make pancakes before starting your fast (although these days it's more of just an excuse to have pancakes).
The point Karl's making about pancakes is that on Shrove Tuesday everyone goes a bit mad and makes pancakes and it's almost like if you didn't there's something wrong with you like you're a bad parent or something. The corollary of this is that nobody makes pancakes any other time - or so it seems. But pancakes are a totally decent food. I once made and flipped about 200 of them for a group camping weekend, serving them with both sweet and savoury toppings, and about 25 baked potatoes for anyone still hungry. I probably wouldn't do that again but it's a fun memory!
We have Taco Friday in Sweden. Hmmm…
I love spending some time with you and the RSK trio. Can’t fucking WAIT for the Karl Comes Home episode of An Idiot Abroad.
It’s pure gold, my American friends… 🥂
Karl has also published a couple books if you're big readers.
Shrove Tuesday = Mardi Gras
KP will not marry Suzanne;
“It works… we’re happy… well I am”
😂😂😂
Pancake Tuesday will be Shrove Tuesday the day before Lent
Pancake Tuesday is actually Shrove Tuesday which is 47 days before Easter Sunday.
Other cultures celebrate Mardi Gras with a carnival.
We eat pancakes.
What?!? Suzanne is the luckiest person in the world - she gets to be with KP every day… imagine how much you would laugh…😂😂😂
Is karl coming home this weekend?
It would be nice to see what Susan looks like but I don't think there's any photos or information about Susan, one thing for certain is she must bloody love him.
Suzanne Whiston. There are many pictures of her.
She’s ok, she was pretty much what I expected haha
@@Wayne.Falconer no. The Google pictures are completely wrong. Thats Suzanne Shaw in all the pictures
Thanks guys, fantastic as always!
And a Q for others.... I've heard these eps before, but just in their Ricky Gervais Show form... for listeners of thingFM, isn't it that Ricky introduced Monkey News as "it's MONKEY NEWS yer.... !%$X£rs!" or some kind of swearing at the end that's cut out. It always sounds that way to me even though if it is, they edited it out each time for this, but I could be wrong. I'm asking so that if Mike and Jess see this they will know also, otherwise I will take some time out to listen to some of the uploads of the original radio show here on YT)
Lol I never realized it was crazy to have indigenous species in the wild until I moved away from Florida😅 in Minnesota that freeze instantly.
Kicking off with a chat about the existential nature of existence and being, did not see that one coming.
Karl is talking about North Sentinel Island
Enos was scheduled to complete three orbits, but the mission was aborted after two, due to two issues: capsule overheating and a malfunctioning "avoidance conditioning" test subjecting the primate to 76 electrical shocks. According to one history of primatology, "The chimpanzee, about five years old, behaved like a true hero: despite the malfunctions of the electronic system, he conscientiously performed all the tasks he had learned during the entire flight of over three hours...Enos demonstrated that he was careful to successfully complete his mission and that he perfectly understood what was expected of him
Karl and Suzanne have been together since 1990, and as far as I'm aware have remained happily unmarried for almost 35 years!
Karl reminds me of Father Dougal McGuire. 😆
I think there would be some common things: food, toilet, sleep, my pride ... which we would all understand - but nuances of lion behaviour more tricky and vice versa!
I believe what Karl is trying to convey is; "The needs of the many, out weighs the needs of the few...or the one."
- - Spock. Star Trek.- -
Because there are more fishes they get more or better treatment or rights ?
... maybe?
Then again. Who knows, when it comes Karl it is often a
Hmm. I've Never thought of it that way. But he's right. Sometimes.
Karl has a point on the caveman theory. Albert Einstein famously speculated, “I don't know with which weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
Pancake Tuesday is more commonly known as Fat Tuesday in the US.
Don't know what Susan looks like BUT one thing is certain, SHE MUST BLOODY LOVE CARL or shes a sandwich short of a picnic 😂
Not sure if you edited the swears with your Monkey News impression, but you missed out the best bit. At the end, Ricky is showing how he's always irritated by Monkey News so he cuts off an F-bomb. What he's actually saying is 'oooo, Chimpanzee-that, Monkey News, ya fu-' (ya/you fuck/fuckin').
Over thirty-two non-human primates flew in the space program; none flew more than once. Numerous backup primates also went through the programs but never flew.🐒
Yeah pancake day is a real old holiday we have every year.
@RNTV being a country with a long heritage, yes Pancake or Shrove Tuesday is a very big event. The next day is Ash Wednesday the start of Christian / Catholic Lent. It has a 2000 year history dating to the bible.
There's hard liquor in your cup
You should watch some interviews with Graham Hancock who believes there was an advanced civilization before ours which was wiped out. He has some interesting reasons and examples of why.
Pancake Tuesday is really " Shrove Tuesday". This is the end or begginging of "Lent" for Catholics! I can't remember coz I'm a bad Catholic ;)
Brilliant monkey news impression. 😃
For the purposes of accuracy only. Chimpanzees and other such species are not classified as monkeys.
Now, not all monkeys have tails, which makes it an improper signifier in the other direction. But apes do not. Most of these bogus stories would appear to centre around primates from the ape branch. Yes, I fully meant that terrible pun. Them calling it Monkey News as a sort of cheaky 🐒 endeavour,
further perpetuates this slur like inaccuracy. 😜
So having considered Wittgenstein' thought experiment for ten seconds, I conclude him wrong.
Thats bc you have the IQ of a worm
for example: Tree is the name we humans gave that living thing.
A lion, that only SPEAKS English , would not call it a tree. It would describe it from a lions perspective, how they think about it. For example they would simply call it shade place or camouflage for hunting. I don't speak lion but that's the idea of this situation.
It would talk English but not use the language as we humans do, we have names for everything and they would not. They wouldn't even call themselves lions, because that's our name for them.
English people only eat pancakes on the 1st Tuesday in the month of March. Scottish people and some Irish people eat pancakes almost anytime that they like.
i expect most dont even eat them on shrove tuesday as anyone under 50 probably dont know what it even means
@@saintdon4461 True. Asda have been making pancakes for years and there's always a few trays of them on the reduced section at 9pm. Value hunters from the Carpathian mountains are always there to snap them all up.
@ i used to eat so many on a shrove tuesday covered in maple or golden syrup, that it would take me a year to face eating one again lol
@@saintdon4461 Happy days
Flexing on Scottish (and some Irish) pancake capacity.
As an English, I am really sad that I am only allowed to eat pancakes one day each year.
Oh no no no f ing no - you paused it when KP was going on about fish having MORE RIGHTS!! I was saying “don’t pause, don’t pause”
The Movie you are probably thinking of is 28 Days Later - 2002 - with Cillian Murphy.
Karls right -- the earth could well have had cataclysms before which force us back to the stone age
Talking of feral children, there's an incredible movie called Nell staring Jodie Foster you both might like. 😊
Bo bo on his way to Disney.
graham hancock got his ideas from karl about ancient civilisations lol
Pancakes in the UK are what the French call Crepes.
Pancake day IS A CHRISTIAN DAY, KNOWN AS SHROVE TUESDAY. IT REPRESENTS THE START OF LENT it is in preparation for a 40 day fasting leading to Easter, that is the real meaning of it
It's called Lent because Jesus lent his pancakes to 5000 fisherman wearing loafers.
They didn't give them back, so he got cross.
On the subject of the Lion and the human not understanding each other, if I spent 30 minutes talking about Sheffield Wednesday to you, you wouldn't have a clue what I was on about. It's really not that complicated a theory 😂
"she deserves everything in the world" what ya doing giving her everyone's stuff?? get your hands of me stuff!!
When Darwin discovered the Moth wasp (Ichneumonidae) that plants its eggs into the abdomen of a caterpillar, which they then eat their way out of when they 'hatch', he said “I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of caterpillars.”
when you mention the movie with an outbreak caused by a monkey, is that 28 days later?
"I would write you a message with my slime" isn't a sentence I expected to hear today 😂
Karl seems to think that the world was created for humans, like all animals should have a use for humans or they wish they were humans. He doesn't know why we have beetles around, like they should have a use for humans. That's what make me laugh the most about Karl. His children cartoon view of the world is hilarious.
Mardi gras.
Fascnacht day. Pancake Tuesday.
It's all the same shit.
shrove tuesday is pancake day in england. its a religious thing
17:07 Listen to that out of context.
Have you guys reacted to any Bob Mortimer clips from Would I Lie to you?
Has anyone checked to see if Karl's girlfriend is actually his hostage?
That's a mission for them NASA guys. 😂
9:36 Kids are not the same as a lion. Think about it! You said if you were a lion, hello you have a human reverence point you don’t even understand how a lion thinks
yeah i dont think they undertood.
This was recorded in 2010, so Karl and Susan have been together unmarried for 25 years now
"He just needs to marry her."
No. No he doesn't.
Why the hell would you get the government involved in a legal contract that incentivizes her to break it.