The performance difference isn't huge, but it's not small either. I saw 30% performance difference in some games (42fps vs 55fps in Cyberpunk) and even OC'ing the 4070tiSuper to 3GHz cant close the gap.
Sadly Nvidia has been routing 4K cards since the 1080 TI and we still don't have a decent 4K card. The graphics is starting to surpass the capabilities of even the latest most expensive hardware 🙄
Theres many decent 4K cards now. 4K medium with ultra textures looks better than 1440p everything ultra. 7800 XT and up can do that. From Nvidia you need 4070 Ti Super to not run out of memory now and in the near future..
No one should benchmark with DLSS or FSR frame generation crap. It makes the benchmarks pointless. Looking at the raw performance is what people are looking for NOT the damn software that was designed for consoles. If you are going to use frame generation might as just get a console.
The 4K performance is the reason I use 1440p High settings and limit the FPS to 120 on my TI Super. That way I have overhead in graphicly challenged sections in game.
I also set my frames to 120, so thanks for that bc it's working very very well - especially since i've never achieved more than 60fps or less - ever! :)
Bear in mind that a lot of people have already achieved near the same performance of the 4080S on their 4070Ti S with a good undervolt+OC, meaning you can save 200-300 bucks by choosing the 4070Ti S and _still_ get the same level of performance. And also most of these games could reach the 100+ FPS mark by just disabling RT since it doesn't improve anything (personal opinion) and cuts your FPS by half or more.
@@Noxilar Whatever improvements it makes you won't notice them overtime and its just going to be a resource hog. All of these games look great already without it and only enthusiasts really care.
AD103, same as the 4080's. 16GB, same as the 4080's. I think the 70 Ti Super is a better value than both the 4070 Super and 4080 Super. The star of this comparison is the 7800X3D.
Anything would help my lagging behind with my rx 580 8gv :) I'm having to play Halo Infinite on all low settings - will the 4070 ti super let me crank up all the settings? I'll be looking into that after my PC gets built. I'm wanting to put that $200 on a 4k oled screen; it's a thousand damn dollars!
@@KingdomUploader Oh congrats on purchase, 4k Oled is huge, the card itself will be able to run it 4k ultra, just be sure the other parts won't ruin it for you ;)
well. With the new upscalers and frame generation developers are becoming lazier and lazier each year because they can hit 4k fake res and 60fake frames anyway.
So basically, none of these cards can ACTUALLY do 4k ultra. A 4070 TiS == 4080(non super) @ 900 euro, and for 200 more you get the 4080 badge. 4080 is just bragging rights at this price point.
I've been looking for this comparison... Ordered the 4080 s but cheaped out last minute for a 4070 ti s, and international returns are crazy expensive, good to know I didn't miss out on too much more fps though
@@Jakiyyyyy taa is temporal AA. DLAA is AI driven temporal AA. DLAA or DLSS usually never oversharpens anything. DLAA is legitimately far better than simple TAA. It is just like FRS vs DLSS. Nvidia produces an image true to form and the others produce a decent image but not as true to original input image.
get the 4070ti Super, save $200 and use to get a good CPU. simple. Honestly the 4070 ti super screams 1440p ultra settings for me more then 4k. Edit: forgot to mention but another alternative GPU is the 7900xt. It's nearly $100 cheaper and does just as good as the 4070 ti super at raster performance.
yeah same i play at 1440 w the 4070ti super and a 7700x best combo tbh all of my games maxed w dlss 140-180 fps in most games ive tested (plague tale, spider-man remastered, dead space remake. and all can play 4k in the mid 80s-90s
I got the 4080 super. I think it's the bare minimum for 4k gaming. 4k gaming just isn't feasible for most people right now. When my build is completely done I will have probably over 5K in it, not doable for most people that have a life. I don't use ray tracing though and usually can game at 4K 144hz, I can't stand anything under 120 hz
@BreckThePanther that's kind a weird, since you can buy most of the prebuilded systems with 13900k - 14900k and 4090 for the price around $3500 right now
Mate I was gaming on a 980ti before upscaling was a thing. It's like people have forgotten how to tweak settings these days. 4080 S is bare minimum 😂😂😂😂. You probably should have stuck to a 1440p monitor or better yet 1080 so you will never drop below 120hz
@@joseijosei Oh well, most people piss away hundreds of thousands in their lifetime and have nothing to show for it. Dining out, expensive depreciating vehicles, toys, weddings, divorces, medical. My roommate spent 5k on 2 festival tickets...
Si estas armando tu primer PC lo mas sabio es escoger la 4070 Ti Super, y en unos años si quieres invertir para un cambio realmente notorio compras una 4090 o de las nuevas que existan para ese entonces ya que probablemente tendran buen dinero para esos tiempos.
Si tienes ya una 4070 ti super en tu primer armado esperar unos años para una 4090 no habrá ningún salto notorio, para eso ya seguramente esté la serie 6000 o 7000 si estiras bastante tu gráfica y ahí será una diferencia notoria, pero si compras una 4070 ti super sinceramente no vale la pena cambiarla por ninguna otra de la serie 4000, te toca esperar la serie 6000 para que si veas un salto notorio xd
@@kevin1873 It was the ASUS Dual model and I bought it off the seller about a month after its release. GPU running fine. Using right now as I typed this reply. It still had the plastic over the gpu housing and the fans had no apparent dust. Maybe they had buyers remorse? Who knows. Its been a great card at an amazing deal.
Gamers are not ready for 4k gaming for years indeed. 4k resolution mostly is for multimedia or job/multitask (2k+ 2nd Windows on 1 monitor) Steam stats 1080p 55% gamers. 1440p 22% and 2160p only 3.5%
@@_Quint_ Oh yeah, unless you just wanna take screenshots or do pretty videos. For actually gaming, sticking to DLSS for 4k would work better than native.
Underneath they are the same card. I did flash a 4080 BIOS onto my 4070ti Super and got about 3% uplift in performance and was power limited. Really, a quick overclock with MSI afterburner could do better.
just after release, I pointed out that this TiS will be the go-to refresh card. And ppl were trying to argue about 4080S being the better choice. After few weeks, the big retailers and shops posted their numbers and I was satisfied that I was right. Cause yeah, for 800 you finaly got the needed performance and 16 GB of VRAM, plus all the "green stuff"... so yeah, this is the card. Still, I wouldnt complain if the price would drop down a bit, but it was rarely seen under 780 bucks if ever and for the performance, Jensen doesnt need to put the price down, sadly...
Yeah, 👍 Jensen is one big Troll. Every time he uses his same black leather Jacket 🧥. When on presentation events. NVIDIA is one big greedy 😔 company. They always claimed to be on the players side. But they are more interesting 🤔 in making profit. The biggest portion they got comes, from the big commerce with their Tensor AI cores. Many big players bought thousands of them. Microsoft/ Amazon/ Google. I hope 🙏 sincerely, AMD will be launching her new RDNA-5 GPUs with better competitive prices. If the rumors are right 👍, one card with the performance of the RX 7900 XT, Will come for the half price. As the actually has. So 730 : 2 = 365€ Euros.
watching these vlog makes me cry and jealous. im dreaming to have a PC for like 2-3 years but i cant afford it right now nice video max you are very kind god bless and take care ✌❤🔥
These are no 4K cards for recent and future games. They will do however really good in 1440p, incorrectly known as 2K (it's actually over 2.5K - 2560×1440).
Yeah I never get why ppl consider them being a 4k card, while a 4090 can barely play games like alan wake 2 in 4k with max settings AND DLSS quality AND Frame gen (60-70 fps). No way a 4080 can hit playable framerates there and in games like hogwarts legacy/cp2077 in 4k. Those cards are good 1440p cards. The only barely minimum 4k card in my opinion is the 4090. Amd doesn't have any 4k card because of their bad rt power, you can only play old games on that shit. Maybe the 5090 is gonna be decent for 4k, but still needs heavy DLSS and fg.
A good CPU can significantly impact your FPS, especially in games that heavily rely on complex calculations, but it's not the sole factor determining frame rate; a powerful GPU is usually more directly responsible for rendering visuals and achieving high FPS, while a good CPU ensures smooth gameplay by efficiently handling game logic and physics calculations, preventing bottlenecks that could otherwise limit your frame rate. According to the specs, a 4080 Super has 10,240 CUDA cores, while a 4070 Ti has 7,680 CUDA cores, meaning there is a difference of 2,560 CUDA cores between the two GPUs. CUDA cores, which stand for "Compute Unified Device Architecture" cores, are small processing units within an NVIDIA GPU that are designed to perform multiple calculations simultaneously, enabling parallel processing for tasks like graphics rendering, scientific simulations, and machine learning, essentially allowing a GPU to handle many computations at once, significantly boosting performance compared to a traditional CPU that processes tasks sequentially. That being said , If your looking for a good gaming rig for a single application the 4070TI is more economically stable for sure. However if you running damage meters ,and multiple back ground mods, web sites , spread sheets, and apps a 4080 super would be more beneficial as it is capable of running more application processes ,and still maintain a higher frame rate IMO. So as with all things computer it all boils down to your application needs. Thank you, please come again.
I just can't see myself buying the 4080 Super simply because for the bang for the bucks, the 4070 Ti is much better but then most people would probably just get the 4070 Super if it was between that and the 4070 Ti as the 4070 Super is the real bang for the bucks loved by many that the 4080 should have been. I have always gotten the 80 Ti series but unfortunately I couldn't find the 3080 Ti in time so just did the 3080 and I am still very surprise at how well it runs any applications and games I throw at it that I am even hesitant to get the 4070 ti. But, if I do get the 4070 Ti then it will be because it was on sale saving at least $100 to $200. Then I'll get the i9 14th gen on sale as well and make my now desktop with the i7 13th gen and 3080 into an ITX computer to be a PS5 Killer in the living room. I am leaning on the 4070 Super or the 4070 Ti super at the moment.
@@ZachalZockt idk where you get that from. The 4070 ti super uses similar power as the 4070 ti. The super ti super ti super is very efficient. Mine undervolted to the exact same performance at 80% power. Around 225 watt full til
@@christophermullins7163 i get that from real facts and not undervolting. 4080 S in 4k ~10-20W more but ~8fps more is great. And in other games, same powerusage for more fps means more efficient
@@christophermullins7163 stop talking nonsense undervolting blabla because every card is different. 99% buyer using it out of the box normal. i hope you trust Gamernexus. Watch his Video: "4070 ti Super GPU Review" 4070 Super + on top, the NORMAL NON Super 4080 in fps/power efficiency.
I’m happy I got a 4080super more than enough vram for all my games and if I decide to upgrade again the 4080super will be excellent in my second pc build because of the av1 chip it has on board.
Just got an 5700X3D with a 4080 S with all the research 4080S vs 4070tis is very close! Honestly and the 200$ steep but it some ways it justifiable now when I hook up my pc to my new 4k OLED I should be able to run most my games max out if my 2060S could play BF2042 @60 fps 4k dlss I’m pretty sure I can run max out native now! Coming from an ryzen 3600 btw I thought about am5 but I’m not there yet. I feel like I can play the next batch of releases coming in the next few years. Kinda thought of gta6 when buying 😂 this my first upgrade after 5 years so planning on going another
I could say that the performance between these two are close, but I can say the same to the RTX 4070 SUPER. Though the 4070 SUPER only has 12GB of VRAM but it's priced at $600.
It's not just the VRAM, the 4070 Ti Super uses the same die as the 4080, it also has double AV1 encoders and the same Bus Width. It's quite literally a 4080 with a few cores disabled.
Bro some advice. When you do a Nvidia graphics comparison again you should use DLSS (AND DLSS3) if possible, we are paying for the complete hardware, not just the raster one.
Def take the 4080 super for like 200 bucks more. If the difference was 300 bucks or more id think different but since games become more complex the 4080 is better for the future since it has more cores and games become heavier
If anybody notices the 4080 super utilizes more of it's vram so you are actually getting better benefits and more textures not being scrubbed. Like in games using 10gb it's using 11 instead. It's as if the 4070 ti is still reacting like a 4070 super ans scrubbing some things away.
@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 that's not the point of what I said. Point is if you have the vram it utilizes it. Everyone goes oh my 10gb card only utilizes 8gb most of the time. That's because it won't utilize much more it doesn't mean the game doesn't have it. Many act as if they never use 10gb which the card won't let happen anyways. Thats all I'm saying. But it's weird the 4070 ti super is still getting limited when it shouldn't be.
@@ayseloz9709go for the 4080 super,i play in maxed out ultra settings in 1440p and its a beast,got mine 3 months ago upgraded from a 3080 12GB,keeping the 4080 super until the 60 series comes out then il grab a 6080,il be skipping the 50 series
Get a 144hz 2K monitor, they are very affordable now. The RTX 4070 Ti Super isn't that good for 4K gaming, it is a 1440p GPU anyway. Monitors beyond 144hz are a waste of money, there is no way your GPU could run the latest AAA titles on 1440p above 144 FPS. You would get very little to no benefit from the higher refresh rate, better spend the difference on an extra SSD drive.
ryzen 7 9700x. Just wait a few more days for it to come out. Get an AM5 motherboard with the BIOS Flashback feature, just in case the BIOS on the motherboard has not been updated, and you're all set. There is also the Ryzen 7 7800x3d. No Intel, and hard pass on AM4 processors. I'm not a fan of any brand, but Intel is dragging their feet in resolving Raptor Lake CPU failures. Otherwise the Core i7-12700k or kf are viable options, but they don't have the strong upgrade path the socket AM5 platform has.
Can someone please tell me which screen overlay software is this I'm using msi afterburner but it can't show all details like this way This is too good❤❤❤
Should i buy 3080 8gb laptop 100w or 4060 8gb laptop but there is two option 75w and 120w.which one is better for 1080p gaming at max setting for next 3 to 4 years?
It actually isn't €200 more expensive, but more like €350/500 more expensive over here actually. Im overseas in Europe, Netherlands to be more exact. Crypto hype is gone, scalpers are gone and NVDIA is actually offering quite decent value for money... Guess what, were being screwed over by retailers now 😂. They dont offer discounts on the non S variants they sell it for the same price, they do mark up the prices of the S variants tho... Was able to find a pny rtx 4070 ti super xlr8 gaming triple fan OC edition in a deep deep discount for €870. Prices for a 4070 ti super range between €950/1150.
@@amirmohammad527 I have 4k 144hz. Dlss looks insanely good on 4k. In some games.. dlss performance looks as good as fsr quality. This really puts the smackdown on the value argument that "AMD gives you more performance". If your upscaling looks good enough.. that is in essence additional performance. FRS is just blurry and simultaneously over sharpened.
@@amirmohammad527 they are 2 independent technologies so they don't really effect each other but yeah.. you need to use them together to get the best balance of visuals and performance. RT is still a little gimmicky as it doesn't always look better than rasterization. Sometimes it's really beautiful
@@mitsuhh idk, you can play whatever game you want at 4k with even the 4070ti super. Adjustments to the settings and DLSS will be needed in the newest of games. Then again, no one is not going to notice, or barely notice the difference, between 4k Ultra and 4k High settings.
When it comes to raster performance, the XTX is slightly faster than the 4080 Super. When it comes to RT performance, it gets annihilated. I would choose the 7900 XTX for pure raster performance and the 4070 Ti Super or 4080 Super for ray traced games.
@Gamer-q7v bro we don't care even if it were entirely true (with much worse temps, power draw, GPU size in cases, much less and weaker features outside of gaming let alone raster) this is a video about team green's GPUs not red vs. green why do team reds try make every green video about them 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@tmanxult003 I was just saying that the 7900 XTX is the better performer overall in rasterized games, and the 4080 SUPER is better in ray traced games, power efficiency, and upscaling. I was just stating the truth. It's not about being biased towards one GPU compared to the other. It has absolutely nothing to do with this stupid fanboy shit. What it was wrong with recommending the 7900 XTX if you only care about raster performance? Especially if it's cheaper than the 4080 SUPER, which it is in most regions. Overall, both are solid GPUs with robust 4K performance.
lol 30 or less fps with ray tracing. What a joke, People who talk about ray tracing are silly. No one can even run it yet at 4k native , why even try. Nvidia has people brainwashed lol ROFL
@@someperson1829 Netflix, TH-cam 4k 8K HDR videos, other streaming. etc. Has to be 4k. 1440 is blurry, 1080 is horrible. 4k is so sharp, once you go there, you wont go back. I can tell if a video is not 4k and it bothers my eyes i'ts so blurry. Low quality 4k even looks bad to me. YOLO and we only have so much time on this earth.
@@FrostyBud777 1440p looks nice for a 27' PC monitor. If we are talking about some huge TV that hangs on the wall, then yes, 4K is required. But I don't think that huge TV is a good idea for gaming to begin with. Also worth noticing the fact that everything looks blury which is lower than a native resolution of the monitor. For example, native 1440p on 27' monitor is looking sharp, while 1440p on native 4K 27' monitor will look blury.
@@someperson1829 say hello to avatar : frontiers of pandora @4K Go check HW unboxed video “how much Vram do games need?” And upcoming ps5 pro games are going to make 16gb vram obsolete 😂
@@mitsuhh say hello to avatar : frontiers of pandora @4K Go check HW unboxed video “how much Vram do games need?” And upcoming ps5 pro games are going to make 16gb vram obsolete 😂
@@someperson1829 say hello to avatar : frontiers of pandora @4K Go check HW unboxed vid “how much Vram do games need?” And upcoming ps5 pro games are going to make 16gb vram 0bsolete 😂
Here is my classification of the current gpu market: Broke gamers- 4060/7600 Semi broke gamers- 4070, 7800/7900 GRE Shitty gamers- 4080/4090/ 7900xtx Gays: Intel Arc
Games :
Starfield - 0:00
Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty - 0:56
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 1:55
Alan Wake 2 - 2:56
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 3:55
Forza Horizon 5 - 4:46
Senua's Saga Hellblade II - 5:41
Ghost of Tsushima - 6:28
Horizon Forbidden West - 7:23
Hogwarts Legacy - 8:21
System:
Windows 11
Ryzen 7 7800X3D - bit.ly/43e3VxW
MSI MPG X670E CARBON
GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16GB - bit.ly/3vNwtSK
GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16GB - bit.ly/48U6jfH
32Gb RAM DDR5 6000Mhz - bit.ly/3BOxlni
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR HX Series HX1200 1200W - bit.ly/3EZWtNj
I think it’s better to take a 4070 ti s and save 200 bucks, the difference in performance is very small
15% more performance for 25% more money. I bought the 4070 super ti super ti superdooper tie tie
That's what I have been thinking. 4070 Ti Super Ti is the best all rounders GPU. 🤷♀
16$ a month vs 20$ a month if you keep it for 4 years. 4080 super is worth the extra 200 in my view if you're already spending 800
The performance difference isn't huge, but it's not small either. I saw 30% performance difference in some games (42fps vs 55fps in Cyberpunk) and even OC'ing the 4070tiSuper to 3GHz cant close the gap.
@@Jakiyyyyy that why i got one
Quite sad when you see 30-42 fps at 4k on a card that cost $1000+
Time for RTX 5000
Most people are still using 1080p
Sadly Nvidia has been routing 4K cards since the 1080 TI and we still don't have a decent 4K card. The graphics is starting to surpass the capabilities of even the latest most expensive hardware 🙄
@@kevin1873 I get an average of 20 fps with 1080 in 4k at all ultra settings and it seems really good to me.
sadly people don't understand what ray tracing does to a computer or what it means to have an rtx card
I remember the GTX 1080 Ti being announced as 4k card 😂 And here we are in 2024 with still no decent 4k Card, except from the 4090 maybe.
what do you mean by no decent 4k card?
Theres many decent 4K cards now. 4K medium with ultra textures looks better than 1440p everything ultra. 7800 XT and up can do that. From Nvidia you need 4070 Ti Super to not run out of memory now and in the near future..
@@Stance1988 Or just use upscaling like you're supposed to.
No one should benchmark with DLSS or FSR frame generation crap. It makes the benchmarks pointless. Looking at the raw performance is what people are looking for NOT the damn software that was designed for consoles. If you are going to use frame generation might as just get a console.
@@benjy117 If that's the case they should also test on all settings from low to ultra.
The 4K performance is the reason I use 1440p High settings and limit the FPS to 120 on my TI Super.
That way I have overhead in graphicly challenged sections in game.
I also set my frames to 120, so thanks for that bc it's working very very well - especially since i've never achieved more than 60fps or less - ever! :)
The difference is 6 fps, the price is $200, which means that each fps is sold to you for $33
I looked and saw 15%
I looked and saw 20 fps, 6Fps when 30-35 😂
that's nvidia for you
at least the fps gain is seen in the 1% and .1% lows tho so they are the most meaningful type of frames you could get
But thats at 4k maxed in those games. Thats a really heavy fps to run.
The difference in 1440p is even bigger. But 4k numbers are alresdy low so 75 fps compared to 60fps is actually a massive difference.
Bear in mind that a lot of people have already achieved near the same performance of the 4080S on their 4070Ti S with a good undervolt+OC, meaning you can save 200-300 bucks by choosing the 4070Ti S and _still_ get the same level of performance. And also most of these games could reach the 100+ FPS mark by just disabling RT since it doesn't improve anything (personal opinion) and cuts your FPS by half or more.
if RT doesn't improve anything for you, you better grab those $200 and go get your eyes checked :)
@@Noxilar Whatever improvements it makes you won't notice them overtime and its just going to be a resource hog. All of these games look great already without it and only enthusiasts really care.
Now what if you do the same on your 4080s
@@algcc Then you'd probably reach 4090 performance but you'd have to pay extra for it though
@@Ark_Strike Yeah, but I have the budget, should I get it?
AD103, same as the 4080's.
16GB, same as the 4080's.
I think the 70 Ti Super is a better value than both the 4070 Super and 4080 Super.
The star of this comparison is the 7800X3D.
i love my 4070ti Super, it will serve me for the upcoming years
Same
It's a beast of a card, way more than I need for the time being haha.
Anything would help my lagging behind with my rx 580 8gv :) I'm having to play Halo Infinite on all low settings - will the 4070 ti super let me crank up all the settings? I'll be looking into that after my PC gets built.
I'm wanting to put that $200 on a 4k oled screen; it's a thousand damn dollars!
@@KingdomUploader Oh congrats on purchase, 4k Oled is huge, the card itself will be able to run it 4k ultra, just be sure the other parts won't ruin it for you ;)
@@UnitedByMusic2 workin on it. Thanks!
Pretty pathetic state of the GPU market that these cards can cost this much but barely scratch the 4k 60FPS mark.
well. With the new upscalers and frame generation developers are becoming lazier and lazier each year because they can hit 4k fake res and 60fake frames anyway.
@@reyk3067 I agree, they're leaving everything on dlss
4090 gets 120fps 4k on almost every game (dlss quality)
@reyk3067
they can, but ray tracing ruins everything
also the gaming engines get better. in theory you could never get 4k if the newer gaming engines keep demanding more.
So basically, none of these cards can ACTUALLY do 4k ultra. A 4070 TiS == 4080(non super) @ 900 euro, and for 200 more you get the 4080 badge. 4080 is just bragging rights at this price point.
they do. but ray tracing gimmick ruins everything
I've been looking for this comparison... Ordered the 4080 s but cheaped out last minute for a 4070 ti s, and international returns are crazy expensive, good to know I didn't miss out on too much more fps though
I ran one benchmark and my bros 4070 ti super was same speed as 4080. i need to run another benchmark to verify.
4070 S and Ti S are the cards ro go to this gen if didnt have a 3080/3080 Ti from previous gen.
Use DLAA instead of TAA when it's supported. DLAA is far superior to garabge TAA.
DLAA also use some sort of temporal technique. The only difference is that DLAA applies the sharpening after that. 🤷♀
@@Jakiyyyyy taa is temporal AA. DLAA is AI driven temporal AA. DLAA or DLSS usually never oversharpens anything. DLAA is legitimately far better than simple TAA. It is just like FRS vs DLSS. Nvidia produces an image true to form and the others produce a decent image but not as true to original input image.
MSAA/SSAA master race
@@JohnSpartan-117 8xMSAA gang
I'm certain people who think dlss is just taa with sharpening have never used an rtx card
We want ryzen 4070 benchmarks
It's awesome that this is everywhere
@@PlatinmumPlays yeah keep spreading stupidity you guys doing mankind an huge favor!
Where did it came from?@@PlatinmumPlays
@@eNv3n0mX Zach's teck turf
500 fps 0.1% low cyberpunk 2077 8k ultra graphics
get the 4070ti Super, save $200 and use to get a good CPU. simple.
Honestly the 4070 ti super screams 1440p ultra settings for me more then 4k.
Edit: forgot to mention but another alternative GPU is the 7900xt. It's nearly $100 cheaper and does just as good as the 4070 ti super at raster performance.
yeah same i play at 1440 w the 4070ti super and a 7700x best combo tbh all of my games maxed w dlss 140-180 fps in most games ive tested (plague tale, spider-man remastered, dead space remake. and all can play 4k in the mid 80s-90s
with a far less advanced software tho
it screams more with 1440 than 4k. are you sure?
Testing graphics cards on msfs 2020 for sure is a big reason to follow your channel.
We need funny and better optimize game... Not another gpu.
After 2020-2021 I have trouble finding the passion to play almost every game.
Cause all games after 2021 are shit and unoptimized
@@mongolianlambhoof I know
Literally same, I only play helldivers 2 nowadays, legit the best fun game right now
@@UwU-ik5urI need to look into em I remember the mini controversy when I was considering buying at the time how the state of the game now?
i just play e-sports
I got the 4080 super. I think it's the bare minimum for 4k gaming. 4k gaming just isn't feasible for most people right now. When my build is completely done I will have probably over 5K in it, not doable for most people that have a life. I don't use ray tracing though and usually can game at 4K 144hz, I can't stand anything under 120 hz
your 4080at 4k wont give you 144hz on maxed graphics, my monitor is almost half the price of ur pc, i have a life, stop trying to be elite
@@gmims7255 which one are you using?
@BreckThePanther that's kind a weird, since you can buy most of the prebuilded systems with 13900k - 14900k and 4090 for the price around $3500 right now
Mate I was gaming on a 980ti before upscaling was a thing. It's like people have forgotten how to tweak settings these days. 4080 S is bare minimum 😂😂😂😂. You probably should have stuck to a 1440p monitor or better yet 1080 so you will never drop below 120hz
im sorry, but you are straight lying or exaggerating if you can tell the difference between 120hz and 144hz
I got a 4080 on release for $1360 instead of the 4090 that was $1599 on the same store. Talking about aging like milk.
shoulda got the 4090
@iwantgoat I know.
@@joseijosei Oh well, most people piss away hundreds of thousands in their lifetime and have nothing to show for it. Dining out, expensive depreciating vehicles, toys, weddings, divorces, medical. My roommate spent 5k on 2 festival tickets...
Si estas armando tu primer PC lo mas sabio es escoger la 4070 Ti Super, y en unos años si quieres invertir para un cambio realmente notorio compras una 4090 o de las nuevas que existan para ese entonces ya que probablemente tendran buen dinero para esos tiempos.
Si tienes ya una 4070 ti super en tu primer armado esperar unos años para una 4090 no habrá ningún salto notorio, para eso ya seguramente esté la serie 6000 o 7000 si estiras bastante tu gráfica y ahí será una diferencia notoria, pero si compras una 4070 ti super sinceramente no vale la pena cambiarla por ninguna otra de la serie 4000, te toca esperar la serie 6000 para que si veas un salto notorio xd
Bought a 4070 Ti Super lightly used for $600 . At this price point, it is an epic deal.
Lucky, I will have to fork out over a grand for one here in aus
If I ran my 4070 TI S like a dog and needed to sell it, I would put lightly used too 🤣
@@kevin1873 It was the ASUS Dual model and I bought it off the seller about a month after its release. GPU running fine. Using right now as I typed this reply. It still had the plastic over the gpu housing and the fans had no apparent dust. Maybe they had buyers remorse? Who knows. Its been a great card at an amazing deal.
Gamers are not ready for 4k gaming for years indeed. 4k resolution mostly is for multimedia or job/multitask (2k+ 2nd Windows on 1 monitor)
Steam stats 1080p 55% gamers. 1440p 22% and 2160p only 3.5%
4k is pointless. with 30 inch monitor or so you don't notice much diff
What cooler are you using ?
Looks like neither card is much good at 4K so might as well for for the 4070 Ti S and play at 1440p.
He tested 4K with path tracing..
I just use DLSS for 4k. Nobody is playing these games at native 4k, that would be absurd.
@@_Quint_ Oh yeah, unless you just wanna take screenshots or do pretty videos. For actually gaming, sticking to DLSS for 4k would work better than native.
I got my 4070 Ti Super for $693. So it's more than $300 difference for a 4080 Super.
Very nice
Bought the 4070 TI Super Windforce OC for 685€ here in Germany.
Now im waiting for the 9000X3D big Upgrade from my 7500f.
Aber du hast die gebraucht gekauft ? Neu gibt es die nicht wirklich unter 700€
@@droddel123 Nein habe Sie mit Gigabyte Cashback und Shoop zu dem Preis neu gekauft.
Underneath they are the same card. I did flash a 4080 BIOS onto my 4070ti Super and got about 3% uplift in performance and was power limited. Really, a quick overclock with MSI afterburner could do better.
just after release, I pointed out that this TiS will be the go-to refresh card. And ppl were trying to argue about 4080S being the better choice.
After few weeks, the big retailers and shops posted their numbers and I was satisfied that I was right. Cause yeah, for 800 you finaly got the needed performance and 16 GB of VRAM, plus all the "green stuff"... so yeah, this is the card. Still, I wouldnt complain if the price would drop down a bit, but it was rarely seen under 780 bucks if ever and for the performance, Jensen doesnt need to put the price down, sadly...
Yeah, 👍 Jensen is one big Troll. Every time he uses his same black leather Jacket 🧥. When on presentation events.
NVIDIA is one big greedy 😔 company. They always claimed to be on the players side. But they are more interesting 🤔 in making profit.
The biggest portion they got comes, from the big commerce with their Tensor AI cores. Many big players bought thousands of them. Microsoft/ Amazon/ Google.
I hope 🙏 sincerely, AMD will be launching her new RDNA-5 GPUs with better competitive prices. If the rumors are right 👍, one card with the performance of the RX 7900 XT, Will come for the half price. As the actually has. So 730 : 2 = 365€ Euros.
watching these vlog makes me cry and jealous. im dreaming to have a PC for like 2-3 years but i cant afford it right now
nice video max you are very kind god bless and take care ✌❤🔥
These are no 4K cards for recent and future games. They will do however really good in 1440p, incorrectly known as 2K (it's actually over 2.5K - 2560×1440).
Then 1920 x 1080 is 2K?
Yeah I never get why ppl consider them being a 4k card, while a 4090 can barely play games like alan wake 2 in 4k with max settings AND DLSS quality AND Frame gen (60-70 fps). No way a 4080 can hit playable framerates there and in games like hogwarts legacy/cp2077 in 4k. Those cards are good 1440p cards. The only barely minimum 4k card in my opinion is the 4090. Amd doesn't have any 4k card because of their bad rt power, you can only play old games on that shit. Maybe the 5090 is gonna be decent for 4k, but still needs heavy DLSS and fg.
That's why I went with 240Hz 1440p monitor. 4K is cool and all, but it's not for gaming yet.
@@Gamevet yes, and always has been
@@williehrmann 4080 runs AW2 at 4K just fine
In the Netherlands both cards used are close to €800, sadly. So in that case the 4080s is the better pick.
A good CPU can significantly impact your FPS, especially in games that heavily rely on complex calculations, but it's not the sole factor determining frame rate; a powerful GPU is usually more directly responsible for rendering visuals and achieving high FPS, while a good CPU ensures smooth gameplay by efficiently handling game logic and physics calculations, preventing bottlenecks that could otherwise limit your frame rate. According to the specs, a 4080 Super has 10,240 CUDA cores, while a 4070 Ti has 7,680 CUDA cores, meaning there is a difference of 2,560 CUDA cores between the two GPUs. CUDA cores, which stand for "Compute Unified Device Architecture" cores, are small processing units within an NVIDIA GPU that are designed to perform multiple calculations simultaneously, enabling parallel processing for tasks like graphics rendering, scientific simulations, and machine learning, essentially allowing a GPU to handle many computations at once, significantly boosting performance compared to a traditional CPU that processes tasks sequentially. That being said , If your looking for a good gaming rig for a single application the 4070TI is more economically stable for sure. However if you running damage meters ,and multiple back ground mods, web sites , spread sheets, and apps a 4080 super would be more beneficial as it is capable of running more application processes ,and still maintain a higher frame rate IMO. So as with all things computer it all boils down to your application needs. Thank you, please come again.
You better buy 4070ti s, in many models the circuitry is better than 4080 on the same model
I just can't see myself buying the 4080 Super simply because for the bang for the bucks, the 4070 Ti is much better but then most people would probably just get the 4070 Super if it was between that and the 4070 Ti as the 4070 Super is the real bang for the bucks loved by many that the 4080 should have been. I have always gotten the 80 Ti series but unfortunately I couldn't find the 3080 Ti in time so just did the 3080 and I am still very surprise at how well it runs any applications and games I throw at it that I am even hesitant to get the 4070 ti. But, if I do get the 4070 Ti then it will be because it was on sale saving at least $100 to $200. Then I'll get the i9 14th gen on sale as well and make my now desktop with the i7 13th gen and 3080 into an ITX computer to be a PS5 Killer in the living room. I am leaning on the 4070 Super or the 4070 Ti super at the moment.
4070 Ti S : Performance /Wattage compared to the 4080 S isnt great
4080 S : Performance /Money compared to the 4070 Ti S isnt great
@@ZachalZockt idk where you get that from. The 4070 ti super uses similar power as the 4070 ti. The super ti super ti super is very efficient. Mine undervolted to the exact same performance at 80% power. Around 225 watt full til
@@christophermullins7163 i get that from real facts and not undervolting. 4080 S in 4k ~10-20W more but ~8fps more is great.
And in other games, same powerusage for more fps means more efficient
@@christophermullins7163 im at 2850 @1050v mine doesnt go above 220w in cyberpunk
Yeah you obviously do not know what you're talking about but ok.
@@christophermullins7163 stop talking nonsense undervolting blabla because every card is different. 99% buyer using it out of the box normal. i hope you trust Gamernexus. Watch his Video: "4070 ti Super GPU Review" 4070 Super + on top, the NORMAL NON Super 4080 in fps/power efficiency.
I’m happy I got a 4080super more than enough vram for all my games and if I decide to upgrade again the 4080super will be excellent in my second pc build because of the av1 chip it has on board.
Take the 4070 ti and use that 200 bucks to buy a CPU....
how poor are you haha
@@clairvoyance7424and how dumb are you
Lol what kind of a shit comment is this.
@@clairvoyance7424 how unpleasant you are
There is no CPU for 200 that's worth putting a 4070 ti super on.
10% increase in perfomance for 25% increase in price problably not worth.
no, 15% increase in performance for 50% increase in price in India. I dunno which gpu to buy, should i really pay 2.5k INR for per fps ?
Just got an 5700X3D with a 4080 S with all the research 4080S vs 4070tis is very close! Honestly and the 200$ steep but it some ways it justifiable now when I hook up my pc to my new 4k OLED I should be able to run most my games max out if my 2060S could play BF2042 @60 fps 4k dlss I’m pretty sure I can run max out native now! Coming from an ryzen 3600 btw I thought about am5 but I’m not there yet. I feel like I can play the next batch of releases coming in the next few years. Kinda thought of gta6 when buying 😂 this my first upgrade after 5 years so planning on going another
the 4070 ti super has a smoother graph thats interesting anf the lows are closer together
Looks like if you drop settings to medium / high most of the games are playable at native 4k and very good framerate with DLSS with the 4070 Ti
I could say that the performance between these two are close, but I can say the same to the RTX 4070 SUPER. Though the 4070 SUPER only has 12GB of VRAM but it's priced at $600.
It's not just the VRAM, the 4070 Ti Super uses the same die as the 4080, it also has double AV1 encoders and the same Bus Width. It's quite literally a 4080 with a few cores disabled.
@@verde5738 And less cache
Bro some advice. When you do a Nvidia graphics comparison again you should use DLSS (AND DLSS3) if possible, we are paying for the complete hardware, not just the raster one.
You are paying to reduce graphics and resolution. Nice 🤣
Def take the 4080 super for like 200 bucks more. If the difference was 300 bucks or more id think different but since games become more complex the 4080 is better for the future since it has more cores and games become heavier
If anybody notices the 4080 super utilizes more of it's vram so you are actually getting better benefits and more textures not being scrubbed.
Like in games using 10gb it's using 11 instead. It's as if the 4070 ti is still reacting like a 4070 super ans scrubbing some things away.
It's almost as if they named these cards in order of their capabilities or something.
@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 that's not the point of what I said. Point is if you have the vram it utilizes it. Everyone goes oh my 10gb card only utilizes 8gb most of the time. That's because it won't utilize much more it doesn't mean the game doesn't have it. Many act as if they never use 10gb which the card won't let happen anyways. Thats all I'm saying.
But it's weird the 4070 ti super is still getting limited when it shouldn't be.
@@reviewforthetube6485 what do you recommend 4070ti super or 4080super?
@@ayseloz9709go for the 4080 super,i play in maxed out ultra settings in 1440p and its a beast,got mine 3 months ago upgraded from a 3080 12GB,keeping the 4080 super until the 60 series comes out then il grab a 6080,il be skipping the 50 series
I feel like there's no 4K ultra settings 60FPS card, it's just 30FPS cards with DLSS for newer Triple A games
I recently bought PC with RTX 4070 super ti and R7 7800X3D. I have 1080p monitor, but I planning to switch it soon. Should I pick 2K or 4k monior?
I would go for a 360hz 1440P QD-OLED monitor. A good 4K monitor will run you about $1000.
@@anckx1143 I got a 4k 120hertz 76 inch tv I like it. Now i can look at 60 hertz or 1080p
Get a 144hz 2K monitor, they are very affordable now. The RTX 4070 Ti Super isn't that good for 4K gaming, it is a 1440p GPU anyway. Monitors beyond 144hz are a waste of money, there is no way your GPU could run the latest AAA titles on 1440p above 144 FPS. You would get very little to no benefit from the higher refresh rate, better spend the difference on an extra SSD drive.
@@feizai245 Which monitor do you recommend?
@@ayseloz9709 Any 144Hz 1440p monitor would do. A 27 inch would be perfect and they don’t cost an arm and leg.
Which CPU should I pair a 4070 super with?
5700x3d or 5800x3d (AM4), 7800x3d (AM5), AMD cpu all the ways
ryzen 7 9700x. Just wait a few more days for it to come out. Get an AM5 motherboard with the BIOS Flashback feature, just in case the BIOS on the motherboard has not been updated, and you're all set. There is also the Ryzen 7 7800x3d.
No Intel, and hard pass on AM4 processors.
I'm not a fan of any brand, but Intel is dragging their feet in resolving Raptor Lake CPU failures. Otherwise the Core i7-12700k or kf are viable options, but they don't have the strong upgrade path the socket AM5 platform has.
i7 13700k
@@m8x425 AM5 isn't worth it. AM4 is just fine. You have dozens of videos proving it
RTX 5060 Super in the future next?
I think it will be the same as 4070/4070s/3080 but with 8-10gb
Bro you put a 60 hz refresh rate....
Can someone please tell me which screen overlay software is this
I'm using msi afterburner but it can't show all details like this way
This is too good❤❤❤
You have to combine the data from afterburner with "rivatuner". Look on youtube how it works^^
Should i buy 3080 8gb laptop 100w or 4060 8gb laptop but there is two option 75w and 120w.which one is better for 1080p gaming at max setting for next 3 to 4 years?
Search up laptop gpu benchmarks
why is the 4070 ti super using the same power but lower perf, makes no sense
15-20% more performance for 200 usd more
15-20% more performance on a 2K PC is about 10% so it's still pretty good.
It actually isn't €200 more expensive, but more like €350/500 more expensive over here actually. Im overseas in Europe, Netherlands to be more exact.
Crypto hype is gone, scalpers are gone and NVDIA is actually offering quite decent value for money... Guess what, were being screwed over by retailers now 😂. They dont offer discounts on the non S variants they sell it for the same price, they do mark up the prices of the S variants tho...
Was able to find a pny rtx 4070 ti super xlr8 gaming triple fan OC edition in a deep deep discount for €870. Prices for a 4070 ti super range between €950/1150.
4070 ti super best gpu for performance 800$ and gddr6x
nvidia need to put a 4070 ti super with normal gddr6 at 600$
Interesting how many times the 4080 Super 1% was same as 4070 ti Super Avg.
me when Testing games upload:
The King!!! the King!!!
why though, i dont do benches, just informing how certain specs run on my games
Woooow, look at the difference. NVIDIA wtF are you doing!?
Do Ryzen 4070?
Ti isn’t much difference and it’s a monster I had the card sold it cause I wanna get a 5070 hope I made the right choice
CPU Air Coolers/ Water Liquid Coolers ???
Air
how Temperature 54 an gpu power 285 ?????
Efficiency
My 4070 ti super is perfect. I am so pleased with the performance. Sure id rather have paid $450 but that is just not the world we live in. 16gb 😊
16gb is very helpful in future especially for 1440p
@@amirmohammad527 I have 4k 144hz. Dlss looks insanely good on 4k. In some games.. dlss performance looks as good as fsr quality. This really puts the smackdown on the value argument that "AMD gives you more performance". If your upscaling looks good enough.. that is in essence additional performance. FRS is just blurry and simultaneously over sharpened.
@@christophermullins7163 How does ray tracing and dlss look when you use them at the same time?
@@amirmohammad527 they are 2 independent technologies so they don't really effect each other but yeah.. you need to use them together to get the best balance of visuals and performance. RT is still a little gimmicky as it doesn't always look better than rasterization. Sometimes it's really beautiful
@@christophermullins7163 Whatever, it's better than AMD
Very nice
works out to be 30 bucks more per frame for 4080.
I achieve 200fps rtz 2080 ryzen 7 2700x 2000mhz ram with lossless scaling 💀💀💀
6 fps = 200$. Msi afterburner is overclock 4070 ti super = 4080 super :D
4070 Ti Super it is then!
The difference is notable in the (ms)
I can see each pixels moving. Its that bad.
Both graphics cards are way to overpriced and slow. I would recommend to anyone wanting to buy a high end gpu to buy the ryzen 4070 instead
What are the settings? DLSS On or off ?
man just look at the setting when he shows them
Ryzen 4070 Solos both of these cards
4080 is not a 4K card don't get fooled by NVidia
Great for 3440x1440 though
How isn't it a 4K card?
@@mitsuhh idk, you can play whatever game you want at 4k with even the 4070ti super. Adjustments to the settings and DLSS will be needed in the newest of games. Then again, no one is not going to notice, or barely notice the difference, between 4k Ultra and 4k High settings.
Yes it is
Now benchmark the ryzen 4070 please
ill benchmark your mother!
RX 7900 XTX wins
When it comes to raster performance, the XTX is slightly faster than the 4080 Super. When it comes to RT performance, it gets annihilated. I would choose the 7900 XTX for pure raster performance and the 4070 Ti Super or 4080 Super for ray traced games.
@Gamer-q7v bro we don't care even if it were entirely true (with much worse temps, power draw, GPU size in cases, much less and weaker features outside of gaming let alone raster) this is a video about team green's GPUs not red vs. green why do team reds try make every green video about them 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
what I hate of it is power consumption almost 400W
@@Chuck15 400~464w 😢
@@tmanxult003 I was just saying that the 7900 XTX is the better performer overall in rasterized games, and the 4080 SUPER is better in ray traced games, power efficiency, and upscaling. I was just stating the truth. It's not about being biased towards one GPU compared to the other. It has absolutely nothing to do with this stupid fanboy shit. What it was wrong with recommending the 7900 XTX if you only care about raster performance? Especially if it's cheaper than the 4080 SUPER, which it is in most regions. Overall, both are solid GPUs with robust 4K performance.
I think better take rtx 4070 😅
Alan wake 2 only 25 FPS? I was thinking of getting a 4070 ti s to play this game. But this is bs…
yep at 4k , even the 4090 cant achieve native 60+ in alan wake 2 without frame gen
lol 30 or less fps with ray tracing. What a joke, People who talk about ray tracing are silly. No one can even run it yet at 4k native , why even try. Nvidia has people brainwashed lol ROFL
Why do you need 4K for gaming though? lol. Cards are not ready for 4K. It's fine on 1440p.
@@someperson1829 Netflix, TH-cam 4k 8K HDR videos, other streaming. etc. Has to be 4k. 1440 is blurry, 1080 is horrible. 4k is so sharp, once you go there, you wont go back. I can tell if a video is not 4k and it bothers my eyes i'ts so blurry. Low quality 4k even looks bad to me. YOLO and we only have so much time on this earth.
@@FrostyBud777 1440p looks nice for a 27' PC monitor. If we are talking about some huge TV that hangs on the wall, then yes, 4K is required. But I don't think that huge TV is a good idea for gaming to begin with. Also worth noticing the fact that everything looks blury which is lower than a native resolution of the monitor. For example, native 1440p on 27' monitor is looking sharp, while 1440p on native 4K 27' monitor will look blury.
Ryzen 4070 beats all
Which nvidia driver should I use on my 3060 ti graphics card for the Hunt Showdown 1896 game?
4 k sucks better 144 240 360 full hd heart monitor
25 fps 💀💀💀
Nice pc
Plus 10-15 FPS for $200 more... seems like a deal.
*15% more FPS. Not 15 more FPS. So if the 4070 TiS is able to run a game at 60 FPS, then the 4080 S is going to run it at 69 FPS.
@@verde5738 So 10 FPS maximum 15 FPS regardless.
Flight simulator Please^^
I dnt see games the same after playin over 360fps. Anything lower just feels like ur playing on a switch
Near same power draw but 4080 gives more fps.
16gb for $800 gpu is a J0K3
Show me the game that requires more. Just a reminder - 3090 has 24GB, how the aging is going? lol
Show me a game that requires more
@@someperson1829 say hello to avatar : frontiers of pandora @4K
Go check HW unboxed video “how much Vram do games need?”
And upcoming ps5 pro games are going to make 16gb vram obsolete 😂
@@mitsuhh say hello to avatar : frontiers of pandora @4K
Go check HW unboxed video “how much Vram do games need?”
And upcoming ps5 pro games are going to make 16gb vram obsolete 😂
@@someperson1829 say hello to avatar : frontiers of pandora @4K
Go check HW unboxed vid “how much Vram do games need?”
And upcoming ps5 pro games are going to make 16gb vram 0bsolete 😂
Now 7900 xt should be very close to 4080 . 4080 is 15 % faster than 4070 ti super and 7900 xt is also 7 % faster than 4070 ti super on raster .
No.
Here is my classification of the current gpu market:
Broke gamers- 4060/7600
Semi broke gamers- 4070, 7800/7900 GRE
Shitty gamers- 4080/4090/ 7900xtx
Gays: Intel Arc
What was that again, the human eye can see approx. 24 FPS?
testing games fake
White William Martinez Sandra Robinson George
Of course.... and Tree Bike Suspension Green Peanut Shiny
first give me 4090
Alan Wake 2 💀
If you want to play in 4K for REAL, just buy the top card, ignore these period!
Everybody cant afford that better to wait for 50series
I play in 4k just fine on my 4080 super
@firstsonofthesea7938 you do know that's a top card,what do you expect,I'm impressed by the 4070ti which is a cooler/better rt/less vram 3090
Alan Wake II is terribly optimized game. Not cpu and gpu efficient game.
It will get more updates