‘Anti-homeless’ rocks in Washington: Should they be outlawed? | FOX 13 Seattle
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- For the last several weeks, Washingtonians have been buzzing about what to do about boulders and rocks used to deter homeless encampments.
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Can we please send this crazy people to the legislators homes and book them a stay.
So people want homeless camps next to freeways? 😂
The rocks sure as hell look a lot better than the homeless encampments!
lemme get this straight.... they want to outlaw ROCKS???
really?
maybe we should outlaw illegal camping.
If they ban the rocks they’ll be re laced by even more rocks…. Crack rocks!
Mic drop. Well put.
This is the same ideology that has seen Federal fines for Kia and Hyundai because it's too easy for (special and priveleged) Americans to steal those cars...
Rocks are racist
Amen!
You've got to be kidding. Everybody for banning the Rocks should be Living amongst the Homeless.
The rocks are a tangible and effective deterrent to dangerous campsites next to roadways. We can clearly see where the money went. I'm tired of funds given to "Outreach Team" salaries. There are few-if any-follow ups on the "feel good" volunteers. Even those little homes are not effective. At least rocks are not drugging, shooting, defecating, running into traffic,
fighting, building fires, threatening folks, stealing, littering and panhandling.
I can’t believe how Rockiest these people are.
I identify as a Rock and will not stand to have this sort of rock hate spewed!
I approve. 😂
That 700K is probably saving 3x that to the areas that would have had to pay for weekly clean ups and needle sweeps.
Highly intelligent of you to extrapolate financial gains from dropping rocks on the ground.
Yup! Not exclusionary, it’s a must
And plus Trump shit
Keep the rocks coming!!!
Can’t have it both ways folks. Rocks or boulders are an easy preventative to unwanted encampments that pose a safety and health issue to all, even inhabitants. Instead of complaining, come up with a viable solution to pop-up encampments that have driven up crime, health and even deaths. I have many friends who have moved as their houses were around the corner from where Seattle let encampments run wild and their kids had to walk to/from school by seeing open drug use, piles of garbage and drinking. Others had people set up tents on other side of their fence and build big bon fires 2x before Seattle police removed them. Don’t like it? How much tax dollars are spend policing and cleaning up after uncontrolled encampments? How many people are put at risk cleaning up needles and other drug paraphernalia? How about skeletons and human remains found in encampments? Yes, I have compassion, but I also want safety for my kids and a city that isn’t a trash heap. I was born and raised here in seattle, never seen such rampant crime, vandalism and apathy by city and even many citizens. I used to roam downtown as a senior in HS as I was a roady for my HS band teacher who had a well known & popular Big Band Swing Band that played for groups in many of the ballrooms at Seattle hotels. I always felt safe… now you can’t walk around in broad daylight without feeling unsafe-I don’t go downtown at all except to Dr Appointments. Forget shopping
I remember reading online this is a few years ago on Facebook where these people were complaining that all these churches and cities and towns that aren't used throughout the week and they were talking about how how can those people claim to be of God if they're going to leave their churches empty during the winter cold days and nights especially the nights because these people are dying on the street cuz they have no place to go. There's a pretty good reason why they don't allow them to go into churches the same reason why they don't allow them to go into abandoned buildings. Here in Spokane I talked to somebody who was part of a group that was trying to put forward some initiatives to try to help the homeless so I asked them I said what would be the problem with allowing them to go into a i named three or four of the buildings here in town that they knew exactly had been empty for decades if not close to 100 years now. They said that the biggest problem that would happen would be the same problem that goes on with these camps that they haven't around here is that high number of people being attacked of people who are killing each other and destroying the public property of other people which includes doing things like setting a fire outside of a building where they have cardboard up against a wooden wall to make a fire and they didn't care whether or not the building that they were up against was going to catch on fire and burn down an apartment building that didn't matter at all and the Democrats who went on the side of these people and I use that term loosely, they didn't know exactly which way they should speak on that because they knew that if people heard them talking in that way that what that meant was that they didn't care about the people living in the apartment or they didn't care about the people on the street. Yet they didn't want those people on the street to be living on their property setting fires in those in the same backyard or side yard of their of their homes and Residences. Yet when they had something set up that was sort of like the area where they would come in and there would be people there to make sure that the people going in there was not on drugs or alcohol to the extent where they would start causing problems causing a fight and then start attacking people but they would get so angry because they didn't have the ability to protect themselves they didn't have the ability to protect themselves from the ones who would do things like raping the other person or attacking them or shanking them. Because most of these people are also from prison when when they're level 3 registered sex offender the reason they're at that level is because of the high number of people who they have raped so yes they cannot live in normal housing because of being that kind of a person. But obviously people who are also Democrats I don't see them screaming and hollering for those people to come in and live in their homes. For obvious reasons especially if they have children but then again if they believe what they're what they say then why are they against somebody just wanting to live their life. They don't want to have those kind of conversations because it's too it's too close to home with regards to what they actually do not based on what they say but what they actually do.
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Enough already. Keep the rocks.
Homeless Advocates Arguing
Over 'Squandering' Funds
Over The Homeless Problem ?
Now Thats 'Rich' .
Keep them rocks a comin.
Here in Spokane where the homeless population is massive in downtown, there are Help Wanted and Now Hiring signs everywhere. I saw a sign that said "Concrete finishers wanted--starting at $50 an hour", and another at a large bakery factory in Spokane Valley for "25 an hour, no experience necessary". These people don't want jobs because handouts allow them to have a drug addicted lifestyle that requires no responsibility.
truth
Period.
Many of these people have severe personality disorders. You probably wouldn't want them working your bakery.
Well if you smell like a toilet who is gonna hire you!?
What bakery? In Spokane? Ill move there tomorrow if you show me. I'm in St Louis.
more boulders please......... the state has no say in how you decorate your property!
College students outraged. What a shock.
Pay attention to who's sponsoring these bills and stop voting for them!
How about we stop letting politicians embezzle legally from housing budgets. It’s a thought, but it might work..
THIS!!!!!!!!!! 💯💯💯💯
The ignorance in most of these comments makes me simultaneously heartbroken and want to vomit.
Public land can no longer be considered public if homeless people are appropriating it for their own exclusive and semi-permanent use. Hell, there are even laws preventing the semi-permanent use of public campgrounds for the same reason.
If the rocks keep public land public then they are fine by me.
These "people experiencing homeless" can get jobs and then rent an apartment. In the mean ime, these people against rocks can bring people into their homes.
Wow aren't you a genius
tired platitude
@@amr8457apparently more of a genius than you are.
@@chasekania6456 Yeah apparently I'm missing a bunch of critical information that makes the statement he made make into a working plan. Lake having a ID and address to put on your application or references. Then if you do get a job you need to find a spot that that doesn't have hostile architecture so you can pitch a tent, then save up $5000-$8000 for an apartment here in Seattle.
However but the last part of it does make sense the community does need to stand up and help out because the government's not going to do it
@@amr8457then move.
Hostile arcitecture?…. Rocks are all natural
Tarps and pallets are hostile
1:40 4 women on the Olympia Council and we wonder why it's so poorly run.
That area in OLYMPIA is much better now it was absolutely wild and disquieting and crime infested. Let’s focus on banning and preventing camping, not tactics used to prevent people from breaking the law
Better than having tents why are people complaining
The only people complaining are the people George Orwell warned us about.
Why impede on future tent homes for future drug addicts lol.
Unbelievable ...
Those homeless tents are hostile architecture , not rock.
'"Public space", so only the homeless public?
Rock On 💪🤘
700k might seem like a lot but if you break it down by the pound you will find it to be a swell deal.
700k and we actually got a solution but with millions funneled into "homeless advocacy groups" can't do anything.
I say that Karen should cut hair and ignore the rocks or maybe she isn't busy enough so she has to find something to complain about
Seems like the homeless person just stole a pickaxe from home depot
Is really not about hating the homeless but the crimes and drugs and safety
Well they can live in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!
Better to see rocks than people dying on the side of the road with drugs and filth. Crime and lawlessness is not glamourous.
Hostile Architecture has been around in one form or another for just over 100 years! It's effective that's why the homeless are throwing shade at it.
I was gonna give you a thumbs up, but then I decided not to.
Speak English.
Heck yeah!! About time we are getting action to prevent these homeless camps!
Not inhumane! 100% what's needed to stop this madness.
Leave it to the government to make rocks illegal. 🤯😂
See folks this is the problem when we come up with a cheap solution like rocks there's always that person who comes along with their feelings hurt trying to sue or complain and whine and in the end we get stupid laws that make it legal for your car to be stolen
Leave it alone, WE THE PEOPLE are tired of the homeless and junkie trash, time to clean house
Rocks > people openly smoking fent
Yes. And then stagger through town in and out of traffic. I live near that area. It’s a cesspool. It used to be nice.
@@nestkeeperI moved from that area last summer after less than a year there. It was TERRIBLE.
so it cost the city 7 grand for a solution that will be effective for a long time.
7 grand for housing homeless isn't goin to do shit.
It should be legal, as long as it's legal for everyone to place random boulders where ever they want.
I like those rocks better than I like the tweakers
I'm of two minds about this.
Very few people want to be homeless and rental costs in the Puget Sound are absolutely ruinous. And even with the raise in the minimum wage, nobody's wages and salaries are keeping up with those costs. In the 70s you were theoretically supposed to pay 30% of your monthly income for housing [exclusive of other costs]. Nowadays some families are paying 50%, and the rents are still rising.
OTOH, homeless encampments are crime magnets. Drug use, robberies, burglaries, sexual assaults, garbage, vermin infestations, etc. all effect the local communities where these encampments sprout. That's not being prejudicial to the 'un-housed', that's just a simple fact.
So if these outraged students have a plan to fix this issue, let's hear it. It's awfully easy to bitch about what's wrong, but it's a much harder proposition to solve problems equitably while preserving the rights of all involved.
Good!!! I lived close by that SHIT HOLE and I’d have to drive by it everyday to work and it was DISGUSTING! And kids went to schools right across the road and there’d be campers, RV’s - known drug dealings right by the high school (I personally spoke to State Troopers and law enforcement based on my job). They’d constantly break into that Hobby Lobby, AMPM and many stores on the other side of the freeway. Many fires. Constant drug deals. They’d roam around all day and break into stores at night. I was harassed at stop signs. After less than a year, I decided to move back to the SW.
ETA: I was told by law enforcement that the city of Lacey/Olympia couldn’t do anything about it because it was on state property. This was also the time when the no pursuit law was in full force so so much crime happened. So much.
That "hostile architecture" wording is way too vague. That law could be stretched to red tag just about any improvement to public space.
Where did the rocks come from?
Let's ROCK!
Yet I don’t hear anyone bitching about the million dollars per homeless person our state government is currently spending to move each person out of homelessness 😂
This is so ridiculous
Good!!!
money well spent!
Maybe they have been wasting money on the homeless, so buying rocks is a better use of funds...? Just a guess since so many refuse help or just out kicking it with the 'community' to want to be a square...or get help.
It just sounds like a troll at this point
Id rather have tents, these people, jeesh. Boulders better then homeless
What would you rather look at beautiful rocks put there by nature or all the crap and drugs and all the garbage that's left behind that we have to spend money to clean up it's a choice I choose rocks
All the folks who think this is discrimination, you can post your addresses below on this post for the homeless to move in or camp at your place. Thanks in advance. 😂
Bring on the rocks.
Perfect idea. Brilliant!!
Looks great ! Such a upgrade 💯
This is absolutely ridiculous! That money could have been spent on housing people!
Nice
“Experiencing drug addiction “ “experiencing mental illness “
Those students need to sit down and shut up. If you're gonna whine about it shelter them at you domicile. It is incredible unsafe having people sqauting in these margins.
Get a job and pay taxes to support the freeloaders like the rest of us, otherwise go to rehab.
Send homeless to peoples who oppose it
Put it to a vote keep our city clean!
This is a temporary, but needed step as the homeless is getting out of control, and where they camp when they’re not supposed to this is the only way to truly deter the homeless population
Rock on!
Nope rocks are good and cheaper than throwing money at the homeless problem.. MORE ROCKS I say! BTW we spent a billion dollars on 13000 homeless. You do the math. It's big business and will never be solved
😆 .....those rocks need to loiter somewhere.
yea rocks have feelings too and deserve a place to live
No the rocks shouldn't be outlawed. People crapping on the sidewalk should be illegal and enforced.
SHOWS THE HEARTS OF THE CITY !
George Orwell would laugh out loud...
I mean.. if you're gonna spend $700 THOUSAND DOLLARS... Why don't you spend it HELPING these people instead of making their rock bottom that much rockier?
Spend the money on housing, not landscaping.
Leave the boulders there and place more out there! Money well spent! 😂
I think it’s a great way to keep people from planting themselves in a place where we the tax payer has to clean up their mess. For all those of you who feel it’s inhumane then let them move into your backyard. I remember seeing similar tactics used by people filling up feed troughs full of rocks to keep run down motor homes from parking on the street in front of homes. When the system is failing damn it do something about it!
Would rather see boulders everywhere than drug camps
Go Woke - Go Broke
7 grand would have been waisted and already gone had it been used for anything else.
Shows just how misappropriated our hard earned tax dollars are used. Sickening 😒
There in Lacy to, i saw them and said awesome 👍🙂
Spend $700,000 save millions in clean-up cost, very hard to house people who are unable to follow society's rules of decorum.
The woman complaining obviously has not had to deal with drug-addled homeless people robbing her every other night. If she did, she would not dare say such silly things.
Wow. How douchey. That’s like when they put knobs on a rail so people can’t skateboard on it except for skateboarders aren’t trying to sleep and eat and just live on the rail, these PEOPLE are. You’ll spend the money to bring all those giant rocks in there but you wouldn’t spend that same exact money to just give the people who live there housing? Cause I can tell you firsthand, moving that many large rocks into an area like that is not cheap at all
Beautiful
Hostile is evading sidewalks, bumping into people and demanding money, NOT ASKING.
YES I AGREE THEY SHOULD SAID CAMPSITES
WHAT ARE YOU BEEN THE DWELLERS DON'T KEEP IT CLEAN THEY SHOULDN'T CRAP WHERE THEY EAT KEEP IT CLEANER WHAT THEY FOUND IT.
AND START CREATING A WORK FAIR PROGRAM
So let all the people who are part of the media part of the news corporations open up their homes to these homeless people. Bring them all in but let it begin with politicians and with people doing that the news programs
Anyone who votes for that should taken in one homeless person in their home.
Ah yes, the large homeless vote will put an end to this.
Everyone will be homeless soon
❤ Rocks
They're addicted to drugs.
Outlaw the homeless
What America should do is outlaw greed! If you do that! Homelessness would dissappear overnight.
Whining about $700k in rocks? How much money has been thrown at the homeless problem with poor results? MILLIONS!!!!!
BILLIONS!
Maybe being roadkill is okay😮
These silly advocates just enabling and promoting homelessness. Or they would be irrelevant. Keep those rocks. Drug use and not enforcing laws and the cowardice of city leaders contributed to the problems.
Rock me baby😂
Land of the free 🤷🏻♂️
Hostile architecture. A new ingredient for your word salad.