Everyone’s talking about how scary and dangerous it is to be walking in the wood and in the outdoors, try walking on the West or South side of Chicago. I’d choose the woods!
I dont know. I've lived in some sketchy neighborhoods. Even still, I usually felt reasonably safe as long as I kept my head down and minded my own. With humans, most humans, at least you can establish communication and potentially remove yourself from a dangerous situation non violently. In the wilderness, there are things out there beyond our understanding. We are no longer in our element and in something else's. Because we are fragile creatures we used our intellect to forge tools and create walls and cities to insulate ourselves from nature and its predators. More robust creatures capable of defending against large predators were able to live in harmony with nature and use their intellect to master nature. Take them to a city and they wouldn't have any superiority to man but when we step in their environments the advantage is all theirs
I would not feel safe on the west side, or south side of Chicago. I would maybe feel safer in the woods. Although, the woods this video was filmed in has bears in it, i would definitely have bear spray in my hands walking thru those woods.
@@matthewmead2374 I agree with most of what you said about things in the woods being beyond our understanding. But, there are many more mentally disabled people walking around in urban areas and anything can set them off. Just minding your own business doesn't mean you won't be attacked. Being anywhere near seems to set some off. Consider yourself lucky you've kept yourself safe so far and haven't been targeted. Safe travels my friend.
I personally live alone in the wilderness, off the trail, in a hobbit hole I dug out and put a wood and tarp roof with dirt over it...I don't use a rifle so I remain silent.. I have a sling shot with .38 steel ammo and a compound bow (65 lbs draw weight) I should also mention I'm indigenous and I can legally hunt year round.. which makes living out here a lot easier.. but I would rather live out here than in the streets of Chicago ANY DAY... especially with Covid on the loose...woof. I'll cuddle up to Smokey da Bear...not the crackhead bear in Chicago.. "Da Bears"
CA. Serial Killers, Satanists, Meth Cooks, Homeless drifters, etc. I am more worried about that. I hike the Appalachian Trail alone but I carry a .38, one in the chamber, on my hip. Don’t care if it’s “illegal” in state or federal parks. I’m not gonna risk getting caught out alone for some BS rule.
Why only one round? Even with a human one round might not be enough, let alone a bear. If you're packing the weight of a handgun you might as well carry max ammo.
You couldn’t pay me a million dollars to do this. Too much weird shit going on in the woods. I grew up in Oregon and camped many summers in the Three Sisters area. I also walked the Camino de Santiago in Spain right before my 50th bday. Its not about fear. The older you become, the more you know, and subsequently, the more cautious you become in your life choices.
@@blackmetalgoat9060 Just a guess, but maybe the number of people who seem to go missing in the wilderness. Some are found alive, some dead, some are never found. For example, a Virginia woman named Jennifer Coleman was just found dead after going missing while hiking in Montana at the end of August.
When I worked at Crater Lake for the summer of 1978, I did a lot of spike camping in our group, been on the PCT out by Annie Creek area, and never came across anything untoward. Also drank straight from streams, refilled our canteens from Vidae Falls, the lake itself, Annie Creek...so many creeks and never got sick. Now, I would never drink from any of those streams without some kind of purification device or system. Nor would I camp like I did without a camper of sorts. This world has changed, and not for the better.
The PCT, which I have never hiked, reminds me of Cheryl Strayed. She was very lucky she survived that monumental hike unscathed and came out of it a better person. There are many dangers there now and hiking alone is not advisable. Still I admire those who have the cojones to go it alone for long distances.
@@leequinn2733 I already did that's why I asked this question... I just want to see what this person's speculation is on what is causing these hikers to go missing.
No it hasn't changed. People have always gone missing. There has always been serial killers, rapist, pedophiles and murderers, etc. People always think their living in the worst of times.
@@leequinn2733 Cheryl Strayed. Saw the movie. Didn't read, but read about the book. Was she lucky? Or lying? I wonder if she did what she claimed. Idk. Lotsa BS out there to make $$$. For a attractive woman to go off on her own alone "into the wild" seems unlikely to me. Even her name is suspect to me. To convenient. Whatever. She got paid in the end.
I only carry a filter, maybe a gallon- but always a filter. I grew up before plastic bottles, and it took many, many, many commercials to get people to accept the taste. Kids were put out of a job, finding glass bottles and returning them to any store.... The plastic addiction is generational and would take double to return to Eden.
Back in the late 60's I did a bit over 20 miles including camping with only one quart of water... up near Mt Jefferson. Nobody filtered water in those days... we drank from every little spring or stream if it looked OK, and in hundreds of miles on the Skyline Trail as it was then called, none of us ever got sick. Giardia is the gift from Vietnam that keeps on giving ;-(
Giardia did not come from Vietnam. It's is in all the animals GI track their feces get into the streams we drink the water s get the parasite that makes humans I'll.
I once received Girardia, that was later traced to a local McDonald's, that was not a pleasant experience. I guess I wasn't the only one with it either, because the local CDC was involved. Man that sucked.
@@anneN0221 We did not have giardia in the US before returning troops brought it home. Once here, it quickly spread…people to animals to people, etc…..
Stone Tool.. I think you have your facts wrong I don't believe our soldiers came back from Vietnam or anywhere and gave our wild life Giardia. The animals have it in their gut and it's spead in the water. People drink polluted water and get sick. You cannot with the naked eye see Giardia, thus it's not safe to drink untreated water.
I hiked the Pacific crest Trail in 1976. Water was a problem then also. We took water from lakes and streams when available and purified it with iodine pills. We eventually had to quit as there was a drought that summer and we did run out of lake and stream water. Our food was sent by mail to the next nearest post office so we could stock up that way. There were no stashes in those days. Overall it was a wonderful experience and nothing bad happened besides bears in the campsite now and then. Better be in good shape it is a lot of hiking in and out of valleys and up the next mountain but well worth the effort. Glad I went when I did. It was not crowded in those days and you could go for days without seeing anyone. It took me more than a week to acclimate back into society because it was such a shock to my system after being in the wilderness for a few months.
Memoriesssssss. I snowboarded on one of the peaks of crater Lake. I stood my snowboard up and a gust of wind hit it just right, I thought it was going to go into the lake itself, but thankfully as it started to go down the ridge, it went on the opposite side, saving me $1000 snowboard at the time.
Back in 83 we backpacked From a gravel pit downside of chinook pass Washington State up-and-over the top to sheep herder lake we set up camp we seen orbs that evening in the tree line at dark it was quite frightening
Maybe I'm missing the point here. The PCT passes around Crater lake on its west side, quite some distance and in terms of altitude, well below the crater rim. It does not go near tourist or populated areas. Unless a PCT hiker goes out of his way to do so, there is no reason why he would ever run into a park visitor anywhere near the rim area.
The official trail is close enough to the rim that the vast majority of hikers opt to hike the rim trail so that they can see Crater Lake and of course EAT at the lodge!! All You Can Eat Buffet,..... need I say more? lol. also you can get water at the lodge. There is no reason to hike the Official route in that section because its dry, dusty and boring......
I’d post a map but no photos allowed in comments, basically there is a trail that splits off pacific crest and to the rim of crater lake trail, several trails around there, the pacific crest trail intersects at the main road going to crater lake, there is another beautiful trail that leads to a waterfall
The woods is where I find piece and serenity. Where I escape the nastiness of the world. If you are at piece the woods and the animals will be at piece around you!
When traveling through Medford years ago I saw a sign to Crater Lake and instantly felt fingers of fear down my back. I knew there was something dangerous there and thought 70 something miles away was close enough. I didn't know about Dogmen in those days, and they didn't have those 411 videos then.
Did PCT this year Oregon is the easiest stretch for sure, after Southern California obtaining water was not an issue Crater lake was a nice stop my lungs have still not recovered from the smoke though.
I’ve never even heard of people using water stashes. I guess I just spend my time away from trail systems and use filters. Isn’t the whole point of getting out there and away from other people is to become self reliant? Just my thoughts. I literally plan all my hunts and trips around my ability to acquire water from natural sources in the mountains.
Exactly. Who goes camping expecting someone else to leave provisions for them? Every generation introduces some of the oddest things to old pass-times.
after the recordings that came out of the sierra camp up there in the 70s i do not understand why ANYONE would go in the wild within 100 miles of there. i mean those things were mimicking human voices at some point. it is scary
That's cool they do cashs out there. in ny in the Adirondacks you're on your own besides a nice couple hiking walking by saving you with they're big spray so the black flies don't carry you away
So you can't boil or filter water from a source? I have a small solar powered thermos and it works well if I need quick clean drinking water. I mean there's no excuse to die from thirst up there.
Stupid but honest question: why are trails curvy when you can make a straight shot trail?!? Lol I’m just wondering! I’m here looking in to Samuel Boehlke’s case. Your video came up. Checking it out. I love Crater Lake. Went there as a kid. I’m 51 now. I’d love to go back. I’m not skeert! I’m skeert to camp tho lol
No kidding. I was hiking in Starved Rock state park, IL in winter 2005. Towards sundown I felt I was being followed and spun around. Shape shifter right behind me moving up fast. She froze. Stared her down for a good 20 sec.s. I turned around and returned to walking. Took 3 steps and realized there was no sound and no way she could come up that fast without making any noise. I'd also just looked back like 30 seconds prior and for 1/4 mile back there was no one. I spun back around cuz there was just NFW she could come up that fast. Nothing. She was gone. Vanished. Shape shifter.
@@drewodessa2483 you are very lucky then . I live in Michigan and my wife's family has a cabin 3 1/2 hours north of where I live and that's where the Michigan dog man has been spotted and it's in a National Park. Makes you think about going hiking or anything close to the park. I bet there are a lot of places along the west coast where folks go missing .
@cali gdp when my mom and aunt were small children and my grand parents had a convenience store and barbershop. second floor was the barbershop and the girls were watching the store while their dad went to town about 20 minutes away they got in trouble for all the ground beef being gone and the packages being ripped open in the cooler but they both tell the same story, a man, very tall and covered in long thick hair, even his face with no clothes came in. even opened the screen door and ate the beef raw. they were out of dog food on a shelf at the time so they both hid on the shelf cause they were small. said he smelled worse than anything they had smelled before, other than a skunk eh could have been a homeless guy or maybe he got rabies
Maybe this guy is the reason behind the missing 411? Just saying; there's a very prolific, evil, human hunter around there who has plenty of access to victims with no witnesses. And plenty of places to put his kills where they will never be seen again. You have to think to yourself, was that hiker you passed earlier the one? Or was it that friendly guy a ways back who seemed interested in your company? Just know that a wolf dressed as a hiker is stalking his hunting grounds looking his next thrill. Keep your head on a swivel
David Paulides is a con man, like that Steve guy from that how to hunt channel. Bullshiters who talk tough, and that’s all. Go enjoy the outdoors, and don’t be afraid of them or their monsters.
@@SteventheWolfKing his entire published work is documented facts with source material and input from the involved ppl. He offers no claims or assumptions. Whats the con or angle that im missing?
Check out David Paulides' channel Can Am Missing 411......you won't be very eager to sleep outside, near the water, in an open bed of a pick up truck........just saying.
@Kieran Hannon I truly am not trying to scare ANYONE! I am just amazed and somewhat devastated at people who think = WELL THAT WON'T HAPPEN TO ME! This missing 411 stuff terrifies my soul! I'm just simply warning people that's ALL
@Kieran HannonI been listening to David Paulides since 2015! Heard a few horrifying stories about Crater Lake! Convinced there's something beyond our realm of comprehension out in that place! 😳
No one is allowed to camp along the river banks either. Camped on the Umpqua River didn't have a problem, found out later that it's illegal. Arrived too late in the year to do the trail (research before you go very important!) so changed plans and traveled along the coast, and water between towns was a problem there as well. Next time arrive earlier and stick to the trail.
I don't camp anymore either. Too many weirdo's and mysterious beings out there. But I still camp on my bass boat. We anchor way off shore in deep water. Some serial killer would be dog tired by the time he swam that far, plus it's extremely hard to climb up into a bass boat without a ladder when you're that tired.......which means he would be at MY mercy.......not the other way around. I even pack along a small propane grill on the boat. Best camping we've ever done.
Even then..... . Being older, and coming from parents, grandparents who traveled, some things are the same, others, well, not so much. First, people have been good, bad, since day one. Second, all creatures, same. Mix the two in ever increasing meetings, what are the chances. So, that being said, the water quality has decreased. What we could do in the previous generations, can't do anymore. Would not advise using the water from those jugs either...... . Camp safely, plan for contingencies, and use common sense the Good GOD gave you. C
@@donnagoring250 Are you aware of just how many people go missing suddenly & mysteriously from national parks and our forests......and often right out from under the noses of people who were right there with them? Because the number who go missing every year is very alarming. No sign of any animal attack whatsoever, or foul play by humans, and tracking dogs either can't pick up their scent trail, or will cower down & refuse to track at all. It's downright scary. Scary, because the Department of the Interior and the US Forestry Service refuses to give out a list of missing people from most of these lands, when ALL other agencies not only offer lists of missing people from cities and towns, they beg for the public's help. This can only mean that those federal agencies know something, and they're hiding it from the public. David Paulides has written several books about it, including many actual cases and the mysterious circumstances surrounding each case.
@@howabouthetruth2157 You are missing the message. Read on, the message also says, plan for contingencies, and if something does not feel right, use your common sense. The message also states, things have changed. Don't lecture, my grandparents were born in the 1800s. And most of my family have traveled the world, career and leisure.
It is the same on the Appalachian Trail, There are too many wild pigs that root up stream, and now you have growing herds of elk to contend with. There's no way that I would drink water without boiling it first.
Since the video is a few years old, I'm going to guess, the stash's are still there ? Yes/no ? And, since my long distant hiking days are over, is anyone maintaining the stash's I'm moving to the area later this year and might try looking into helping out maintaining the stash's. Does anyone know if there are groups doing any of the work ?
It really sucks when you stumble across a really awesome video like this and you check the channel out and no new videos for several years…………..??? Damnit!!! 😡
The campsite right at the base of thielson next to thielson creek is my favorite place in the world highly recommend staying the night there if you can plan it right while on the pct
zach rotondo it was awesome one of the best sunsets. Close enough to grab water nice trees to hammock! miller lake to crater lake is one of my favorite portions of the pct I have done so far
I live near Crater Lake and recreate all around the area... there's water to be found in the warmer months... you just have to know where to look. Just prepare for the worst when hiking the PCT. It's a beautiful hike for sure. Equally as beautiful is the winter activities when you sled into the Northern Entrance. It's our own little mini-Alaska!
I live in the Death Valley mountains for the better part of 30 years. I won't say exactly where, because I'd lose my privacy, but I'm always in the canyons and mountains alone. Water is scarce but I know where many seep springs are located. Obviously I love living like this!
When I camped on this lake a military fighter plane flew over the lake so low and so fast it was pulling water up from the lake it was strange it came from nowhere
@@sampsonlonghair5559 what absolute rubbish the truth is Jesus Jehovah Yeshua YHWH Elohim or whatever ridiculous name you want to call your imaginary God is pure fiction stop reading your Bible upside-down and believing in those biblical fairytales. A closer examination of the evidence shows that the story of Jesus Christ is what we call mythology. Jesus began as a theological concept and was used as a character in allegorical stories and was then historical as someone whom people believed really existed. The belief in a literal human Jesus emerged as eucharist rituals and theology developed around the concept of the flesh and blood of christ and these concepts merged with allegorical narratives about the figure. There is thousands of God's but your Christian God is the one true God right because they ALL say that. Honestly how brainwashed and indoctrinated into that cult of christ are you?
Will definitely do one next month after I finish the trail! Almost out of space on my phone too - this might be my last video for a while. Using my other camera and hope to edit a bunch of videos when I finish.
i was gona try pct but think i better see if i can do the other coast first if i dont die of old age before i can attempt keep hiking freind enjoy being away form the /insert verb here
People leave beer at those stashes? Or was that just what people tossed? If they leave beer they need to leave a joint or two with a lighter. Be kinda a cool tradition if people did that. Always trying to leave what you can and only take when needed.
Why don't ppl carry a portable water filter, it's light and all you need is a one little water bottle I used it when I hiked on the Olympic peninsula in Washington. You can take any water and its ceramic filter filters everything out bad and you instantly have good drinking water as long as there is any stream or lake nearby. I think that's really bad for all those water bottles that are empty to be there, it's not good for the environment. If everyone would just have their own portable water filter this would eliminate this.
@@low-keyrighteous9575 🤷🏻 it just seems safer. A slight deterrent. Out of sight? Of course a determined predator wouldn’t be stopped but it just feels safer.
Crater lake is among the best places. The worse was mid 1970 south bronx. The bronx grand concourse was among the best places in the United states . Didn't take long to become a dump
It is horrifying to see the amount of garbage that people leave behind. Seeing those caches made my blood curl! I can understand why Bigfoot would want to boot humans out of its territory! Does anyone do the cleanup out there?
They get picked up when they re-supply the cache. Hikers actually pay in advance for water cache to be dropped in certain long stretches. Doesn't always get drooped or re-supplied in time sometimes whether it be from a ranger or trail angle or trail magic. It is nice to have the guthook app because hikers can drop a pin and make note to the hikers behind him the cache is empty or full or just a gallon left at that drop.
Hey I'm a big fan of your videos and hope you post more soon! I'm thinking about hiking the appalacian trail in April and was wondering if you have any advice? Also how do you charge your device when on trail or do you wait to charge it until you reach a town?
+Sevvy sick! I'm itching to hike the AT... I used a battery pack. Kept my phone charged even on longer 8+ days out. Advice? Listen to your body, take it slow, be safe, have fun... you'll learn the rest quickly while hiking. I'm going to review my gear and talk about the trail in some new videos. Leaving Canada now and will post soon.
+Sevvy ya. I'm heading to Gastown on a little self guided tour with two friends. We're down to grab a drink. Don't have service but I'm checking things whenever I get wifi
Don't be that way Bruce, the whole world should be having fun and experiencing Gods beautiful nature! Maybe all the anger would leave them? A Godless world is an angry one, obviously!
We have sasquaths here in the sierras they snatch dogs hunters raid orchards and gardens chicken coops, weird but there for real just another kind of human who shares the mountains.
Everyone’s talking about how scary and dangerous it is to be walking in the wood and in the outdoors, try walking on the West or South side of Chicago. I’d choose the woods!
I dont know. I've lived in some sketchy neighborhoods. Even still, I usually felt reasonably safe as long as I kept my head down and minded my own. With humans, most humans, at least you can establish communication and potentially remove yourself from a dangerous situation non violently. In the wilderness, there are things out there beyond our understanding. We are no longer in our element and in something else's. Because we are fragile creatures we used our intellect to forge tools and create walls and cities to insulate ourselves from nature and its predators. More robust creatures capable of defending against large predators were able to live in harmony with nature and use their intellect to master nature. Take them to a city and they wouldn't have any superiority to man but when we step in their environments the advantage is all theirs
I would not feel safe on the west side, or south side of Chicago. I would maybe feel safer in the woods. Although, the woods this video was filmed in has bears in it, i would definitely have bear spray in my hands walking thru those woods.
@@matthewmead2374 I agree with most of what you said about things in the woods being beyond our understanding. But, there are many more mentally disabled people walking around in urban areas and anything can set them off. Just minding your own business doesn't mean you won't be attacked. Being anywhere near seems to set some off. Consider yourself lucky you've kept yourself safe so far and haven't been targeted. Safe travels my friend.
I personally live alone in the wilderness, off the trail, in a hobbit hole I dug out and put a wood and tarp roof with dirt over it...I don't use a rifle so I remain silent.. I have a sling shot with .38 steel ammo and a compound bow (65 lbs draw weight) I should also mention I'm indigenous and I can legally hunt year round.. which makes living out here a lot easier.. but I would rather live out here than in the streets of Chicago ANY DAY... especially with Covid on the loose...woof. I'll cuddle up to Smokey da Bear...not the crackhead bear in Chicago.. "Da Bears"
@@IamINyourTV the Chicago Bears do not smoke crack...maybe a few of them do. But not all of them
CA. Serial Killers, Satanists, Meth Cooks, Homeless drifters, etc. I am more worried about that. I hike the Appalachian Trail alone but I carry a .38, one in the chamber, on my hip. Don’t care if it’s “illegal” in state or federal parks. I’m not gonna risk getting caught out alone for some BS rule.
Why only one round? Even with a human one round might not be enough, let alone a bear. If you're packing the weight of a handgun you might as well carry max ammo.
Seriously? One IN THE CHAMBER he said.
One in the chamber on a revolver huh? Lofl!!
@cali gdp I thought they meant ONLY one lol, i was probably stoned when I commented that
You couldn’t pay me a million dollars to do this. Too much weird shit going on in the woods. I grew up in Oregon and camped many summers in the Three Sisters area. I also walked the Camino de Santiago in Spain right before my 50th bday. Its not about fear. The older you become, the more you know, and subsequently, the more cautious you become in your life choices.
AGREE
What kind of weird shit are refering to ?
Just curious ...
@@blackmetalgoat9060 Just a guess, but maybe the number of people who seem to go missing in the wilderness. Some are found alive, some dead, some are never found.
For example, a Virginia woman named Jennifer Coleman was just found dead after going missing while hiking in Montana at the end of August.
@@blackmetalgoat9060 missing 411
that's what happens when people think predators aren't real...
When I worked at Crater Lake for the summer of 1978, I did a lot of spike camping in our group, been on the PCT out by Annie Creek area, and never came across anything untoward. Also drank straight from streams, refilled our canteens from Vidae Falls, the lake itself, Annie Creek...so many creeks and never got sick.
Now, I would never drink from any of those streams without some kind of purification device or system.
Nor would I camp like I did without a camper of sorts.
This world has changed, and not for the better.
The PCT, which I have never hiked, reminds me of Cheryl Strayed. She was very lucky she survived that monumental hike unscathed and came out of it a better person. There are many dangers there now and hiking alone is not advisable. Still I admire those who have the cojones to go it alone for long distances.
Why do you say this ? What has changed in the area to make it more dangerous ?
@@leequinn2733 I already did that's why I asked this question... I just want to see what this person's speculation is on what is causing these hikers to go missing.
No it hasn't changed. People have always gone missing. There has always been serial killers, rapist, pedophiles and murderers, etc. People always think their living in the worst of times.
@@leequinn2733
Cheryl Strayed. Saw the movie. Didn't read, but read about the book. Was she lucky? Or lying? I wonder if she did what she claimed. Idk. Lotsa BS out there to make $$$. For a attractive woman to go off on her own alone "into the wild" seems unlikely to me. Even her name is suspect to me. To convenient.
Whatever. She got paid in the end.
I swam across the lake. It was really strange because you can see down for 2 miles. Seriously clear water. Like being in space.
Dude that’s frickin impressive that’s a huge lake. I swam out about 20 feet before I looked down into the abyss and got scared 😂
See any lake Monsters?
Must have been pretty cold!
60 degrees, quite comfy when you're acclimated to it@@overwatchxrescue
I don't see how that's possible.
There are plenty of streams around there. Why aren't you carrying a Water filter?
When I camp, I bring my own water.
I only carry a filter, maybe a gallon- but always a filter.
I grew up before plastic bottles, and it took many, many, many commercials to get people to accept the taste.
Kids were put out of a job, finding glass bottles and returning them to any store....
The plastic addiction is generational and would take double to return to Eden.
Because he wouldn't be able to make a video about how there isn't water caches available
@@GardenerEarthGuy so true
Back in the late 60's I did a bit over 20 miles including camping with only one quart of water... up near Mt Jefferson. Nobody filtered water in those days... we drank from every little spring or stream if it looked OK, and in hundreds of miles on the Skyline Trail as it was then called, none of us ever got sick. Giardia is the gift from Vietnam that keeps on giving ;-(
I remember being able to drink out of streams--cold, clear,clean alpine streams--those were the good old days!
Giardia did not come from Vietnam. It's is in all the animals GI track their feces get into the streams we drink the water s get the parasite that makes humans I'll.
I once received Girardia, that was later traced to a local McDonald's, that was not a pleasant experience. I guess I wasn't the only one with it either, because the local CDC was involved. Man that sucked.
@@anneN0221 We did not have giardia in the US before returning troops brought it home. Once here, it quickly spread…people to animals to people, etc…..
Stone Tool.. I think you have your facts wrong I don't believe our soldiers came back from Vietnam or anywhere and gave our wild life Giardia. The animals have it in their gut and it's spead in the water. People drink polluted water and get sick. You cannot with the naked eye see Giardia, thus it's not safe to drink untreated water.
I hiked the Pacific crest Trail in 1976. Water was a problem then also. We took water from lakes and streams when available and purified it with iodine pills. We eventually had to quit as there was a drought that summer and we did run out of lake and stream water. Our food was sent by mail to the next nearest post office so we could stock up that way. There were no stashes in those days. Overall it was a wonderful experience and nothing bad happened besides bears in the campsite now and then. Better be in good shape it is a lot of hiking in and out of valleys and up the next mountain but well worth the effort. Glad I went when I did. It was not crowded in those days and you could go for days without seeing anyone. It took me more than a week to acclimate back into society because it was such a shock to my system after being in the wilderness for a few months.
Memoriesssssss. I snowboarded on one of the peaks of crater Lake. I stood my snowboard up and a gust of wind hit it just right, I thought it was going to go into the lake itself, but thankfully as it started to go down the ridge, it went on the opposite side, saving me $1000 snowboard at the time.
Sleeping on the rim is a 500$ fine, but littering the forest with plastic water bottles gets mass respect from those trying to enjoy nature‼🤯🤯
That's why im trying to figure out...
The bottles are in a single concentrated area and are cleaned ul and replaced with new ones so thru hikers don't dehydrate.
@@ozcarshere8779 and "recycled". So WASTEFUL compared to the rest of history. I still have a couple of my Grandpa's canteens.
Still stupid to give so do e $500.00 for sleeping
Not littering at all.
Back in 83 we backpacked From a gravel pit downside of chinook pass Washington State up-and-over the top to sheep herder lake we set up camp we seen orbs that evening in the tree line at dark it was quite frightening
Hi what happen to this dude?👋
@@anasantiago3581 Nothing happened just a terrifying experience
Maybe I'm missing the point here. The PCT passes around Crater lake on its west side, quite some distance and in terms of altitude, well below the crater rim. It does not go near tourist or populated areas. Unless a PCT hiker goes out of his way to do so, there is no reason why he would ever run into a park visitor anywhere near the rim area.
The official trail is close enough to the rim that the vast majority of hikers opt to hike the rim trail so that they can see Crater Lake and of course EAT at the lodge!! All You Can Eat Buffet,..... need I say more? lol. also you can get water at the lodge. There is no reason to hike the Official route in that section because its dry, dusty and boring......
I prefer to drive around the rim, more to see at lookouts
I’d post a map but no photos allowed in comments, basically there is a trail that splits off pacific crest and to the rim of crater lake trail, several trails around there, the pacific crest trail intersects at the main road going to crater lake, there is another beautiful trail that leads to a waterfall
The woods is where I find piece and serenity. Where I escape the nastiness of the world. If you are at piece the woods and the animals will be at piece around you!
That's some naive shit man. I mean I get what you are saying but that philosophy will get most people killed.
A lot of people have gone missing at Crater Lake.
People go missing in the Finger Lakes.
When traveling through Medford years ago I saw a sign to Crater Lake and instantly felt fingers of fear down my back. I knew there was something dangerous there and thought 70 something miles away was close enough. I didn't know about Dogmen in those days, and they didn't have those 411 videos then.
Missing: 411
@@cahtshiri dog men?
@@cahtshiri Wow! I just heard that creepy high-pitched Outer Limits music just reading that.
Been there many times. Oregon native. Ive lived and hiked all over before becoming disabled.
Your vids are all 5 yrs, whered u go
Did PCT this year Oregon is the easiest stretch for sure, after Southern California obtaining water was not an issue Crater lake was a nice stop my lungs have still not recovered from the smoke though.
I’ve never even heard of people using water stashes. I guess I just spend my time away from trail systems and use filters. Isn’t the whole point of getting out there and away from other people is to become self reliant? Just my thoughts. I literally plan all my hunts and trips around my ability to acquire water from natural sources in the mountains.
Yes I agree!
He's thru hiking the PCT
I’m aware of what he was doing, I grew up on the PCT. I just prefer to not have to rely on someone else to get me through my backcountry adventures.
@@jasonjohn1978 smart
Exactly. Who goes camping expecting someone else to leave provisions for them? Every generation introduces some of the oddest things to old pass-times.
Ole timers call that area bigfoot canyon.
Sasquatch is everywhere in the CA sierras. Ask me how I know
@@markh3279 I’ll bite.... how do you know
@@2makealongstoryshort269 like to know to. they are everwhere or their cousins
@@markh3279 I’m more worried about Meth tweakers and cooks.
after the recordings that came out of the sierra camp up there in the 70s i do not understand why ANYONE would go in the wild within 100 miles of there. i mean those things were mimicking human voices at some point. it is scary
That's cool they do cashs out there. in ny in the Adirondacks you're on your own besides a nice couple hiking walking by saving you with they're big spray so the black flies don't carry you away
So you can't boil or filter water from a source? I have a small solar powered thermos and it works well if I need quick clean drinking water. I mean there's no excuse to die from thirst up there.
Hello Thank you for Beautiful stunning scenery and music
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Yvonne Mullion Cornwall England 🏴
Thanks for being my first PCT hiker series person. I have watched hundreds of videos. I am obsessed! Can't wait for my dream to come true.
Leslie Toohey my dream too, I live in So Cal
Year later...did you realize your dream?
Stupid but honest question: why are trails curvy when you can make a straight shot trail?!? Lol I’m just wondering! I’m here looking in to Samuel Boehlke’s case. Your video came up. Checking it out.
I love Crater Lake. Went there as a kid. I’m 51 now. I’d love to go back. I’m not skeert! I’m skeert to camp tho lol
Best video I've seen in a long time. Great job and thanks for the advice.
Can you ride a motorcycle on those trails to crater lake?
who fills those caches?
Crater lake is a known place where people go missing. Something in the trees takes people.
No kidding. I was hiking in Starved Rock state park, IL in winter 2005. Towards sundown I felt I was being followed and spun around. Shape shifter right behind me moving up fast. She froze. Stared her down for a good 20 sec.s. I turned around and returned to walking. Took 3 steps and realized there was no sound and no way she could come up that fast without making any noise. I'd also just looked back like 30 seconds prior and for 1/4 mile back there was no one. I spun back around cuz there was just NFW she could come up that fast. Nothing. She was gone. Vanished. Shape shifter.
@@drewodessa2483 you are very lucky then . I live in Michigan and my wife's family has a cabin 3 1/2 hours north of where I live and that's where the Michigan dog man has been spotted and it's in a National Park. Makes you think about going hiking or anything close to the park. I bet there are a lot of places along the west coast where folks go missing .
@cali gdp when my mom and aunt were small children and my grand parents had a convenience store and barbershop. second floor was the barbershop and the girls were watching the store while their dad went to town about 20 minutes away
they got in trouble for all the ground beef being gone and the packages being ripped open in the cooler
but they both tell the same story, a man, very tall and covered in long thick hair, even his face with no clothes came in. even opened the screen door and ate the beef raw. they were out of dog food on a shelf at the time so they both hid on the shelf cause they were small. said he smelled worse than anything they had smelled before, other than a skunk
eh could have been a homeless guy or maybe he got rabies
@cali gdp they have told the same story for 30 years
and the same story separately and had no concept of bigfoot at the time
@cali gdp my grandmother was upstairs in the barbershop doofus
I seen a bigfoot in elko nevada and they do exist five foot instep
What year was it ?
@@DaveEPie 1993
Love Crater lake, drove the bikes up there with my bros in dad going cross country in '02, beautiful
The 411 disappearances led me to this video. I would never hike or camp around those parts after hearing about those things.
Me 2 lol
Maybe this guy is the reason behind the missing 411? Just saying; there's a very prolific, evil, human hunter around there who has plenty of access to victims with no witnesses. And plenty of places to put his kills where they will never be seen again. You have to think to yourself, was that hiker you passed earlier the one? Or was it that friendly guy a ways back who seemed interested in your company? Just know that a wolf dressed as a hiker is stalking his hunting grounds looking his next thrill. Keep your head on a swivel
David Paulides is a con man, like that Steve guy from that how to hunt channel. Bullshiters who talk tough, and that’s all. Go enjoy the outdoors, and don’t be afraid of them or their monsters.
@@SteventheWolfKing he provides information from extant reports And suggests people stay safe in the woods. Some con man. 🙄
@@SteventheWolfKing his entire published work is documented facts with source material and input from the involved ppl. He offers no claims or assumptions. Whats the con or angle that im missing?
I just slept out on the rim under this past full moon in the open bed of a truck... I survived to tell the tale.
Check out David Paulides' channel Can Am Missing 411......you won't be very eager to sleep outside, near the water, in an open bed of a pick up truck........just saying.
@@georgiaconti2691 lol been doing it my whole life in one of his supposed cluster areas.
@@Shastavalleyoutdoorsman What was your scariest time? If you have any?
@@Lilmickcrocodiledundee0001 oh I've got a few weird ones. Too long to type. Probably going to tell the stories on my channel soon.
@@Shastavalleyoutdoorsman Nice! Can't wait to hear
Stay OUTTA places like THIS! You're gonna end up in a David Paulides book or movie about Missing 411
@Kieran Hannon I truly am not trying to scare ANYONE! I am just amazed and somewhat devastated at people who think =
WELL THAT WON'T HAPPEN TO ME! This missing 411 stuff terrifies my soul! I'm just simply warning people that's ALL
@Kieran HannonI been listening to David Paulides since 2015! Heard a few horrifying stories about Crater Lake! Convinced there's something beyond our realm of comprehension out in that place! 😳
@Kieran Hannon Stay safe in your travels my friend! I will pray for U and your safety also
Choose love over fear and that bad energy flees
Take a personal locator beacon.
You would think someone would periodically check those water stashes
I'm pretty sure the water stashes are refilled by normal people hiking. Not a DNR.
No one is allowed to camp along the river banks either. Camped on the Umpqua River didn't have a problem, found out later that it's illegal. Arrived too late in the year to do the trail (research before you go very important!) so changed plans and traveled along the coast, and water between towns was a problem there as well. Next time arrive earlier and stick to the trail.
I don't camp any more...just hotels
I wonder if uploader is okay. He hasn't uploaded at all
I don't camp anymore either. Too many weirdo's and mysterious beings out there. But I still camp on my bass boat. We anchor way off shore in deep water. Some serial killer would be dog tired by the time he swam that far, plus it's extremely hard to climb up into a bass boat without a ladder when you're that tired.......which means he would be at MY mercy.......not the other way around. I even pack along a small propane grill on the boat. Best camping we've ever done.
Even then..... . Being older, and coming from parents, grandparents who traveled, some things are the same, others, well, not so much. First, people have been good, bad, since day one. Second, all creatures, same. Mix the two in ever increasing meetings, what are the chances.
So, that being said, the water quality has decreased. What we could do in the previous generations, can't do anymore. Would not advise using the water from those jugs either...... .
Camp safely, plan for contingencies, and use common sense the Good GOD gave you.
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@@donnagoring250 Are you aware of just how many people go missing suddenly & mysteriously from national parks and our forests......and often right out from under the noses of people who were right there with them? Because the number who go missing every year is very alarming. No sign of any animal attack whatsoever, or foul play by humans, and tracking dogs either can't pick up their scent trail, or will cower down & refuse to track at all. It's downright scary. Scary, because the Department of the Interior and the US Forestry Service refuses to give out a list of missing people from most of these lands, when ALL other agencies not only offer lists of missing people from cities and towns, they beg for the public's help. This can only mean that those federal agencies know something, and they're hiding it from the public. David Paulides has written several books about it, including many actual cases and the mysterious circumstances surrounding each case.
@@howabouthetruth2157 You are missing the message. Read on, the message also says, plan for contingencies, and if something does not feel right, use your common sense. The message also states, things have changed. Don't lecture, my grandparents were born in the 1800s. And most of my family have traveled the world, career and leisure.
It is the same on the Appalachian Trail, There are too many wild pigs that root up stream, and now you have growing herds of elk to contend with. There's no way that I would drink water without boiling it first.
i bet you took the Covid gen therapy injections without a doubt, right ? Or are you one of the very few who use their brain all the time 😁
How you know the water is clean?
you ever see any bears or cougars? I just go hike up around there for the day and i'm always worried.
In high school we went up there in Winter, and with a ten dollar blow up boat we got in the freaking lake. Ask me if I can swim.
Spent most of my life in the mountains of Montana and never seen anything but wildlife and nature ! The only supernatural thing in the woods is you!
Tried looking for the opening screen music. Where can I find it, please?
I climbed Mt. Theilsen once that's about as adventurous as I get.
Good memories of summer in the mid 1980s for me.
Since the video is a few years old, I'm going to guess, the stash's are still there ? Yes/no ? And, since my long distant hiking days are over, is anyone maintaining the stash's I'm moving to the area later this year and might try looking into helping out maintaining the stash's. Does anyone know if there are groups doing any of the work ?
There was water in july 2021 at the highway when i hiked by in the pct
Would drinking water in plastic in the sun be the wisest move ?
Safer than no water.
What, worried about the leaching of plastic into the body. To late buddy. Its already in us.
I keep coming back. Zach is a cool guy. Love his attitude.
Is this the Spokesman of Dr. Squatch? i ordered a bar.
🤣🤣🤣
maybe when someone drinks one of the waters they could carry the empty bottle out with them?
I would never drink water someone else left, it's a evil world with evil poeple guy you better wake up man.
not out there though. its not like that on the trail. you are scared little man, it sounds like.....
He clearly states he brings his own H20 and doesn't rely on the caches.
Hikers are a community and the bad guys are fewer and farther between than in civilization.
For emergencies buddy and u would drink it if u were dieing of thirst
Sitting in my office wondering how nice it would be to do what you do
It really sucks when you stumble across a really awesome video like this and you check the channel out and no new videos for several years…………..??? Damnit!!! 😡
Hope he's ok 🙁 It'd be good to get an update of some sort.
Thanks for this post! I enjoyed it!
The campsite right at the base of thielson next to thielson creek is my favorite place in the world highly recommend staying the night there if you can plan it right while on the pct
Brandie Minor I slept maybe 5 miles north on the pct. will check it out if I'm ever back in the area!
zach rotondo it was awesome one of the best sunsets. Close enough to grab water nice trees to hammock! miller lake to crater lake is one of my favorite portions of the pct I have done so far
great video!
Anyone know why it's illegal to camp there
Where you going to go camping next? Hmmm?
Hope this guy made it out of the area okay he hasn’t uploaded any videos in years
Really that is strange
@@ethanmills2459 a bear ate him
@@AG-ge6bt is that right dang hate it when that happens
Be safe dude. Watch your six.
Who fills the caches? I don't think I'd feel comfortable drinking some random water in the woods. Also, you were wearing pants?? 😜
Hell no I'm not about to drink acid or some shit
I live near Crater Lake and recreate all around the area... there's water to be found in the warmer months... you just have to know where to look. Just prepare for the worst when hiking the PCT. It's a beautiful hike for sure. Equally as beautiful is the winter activities when you sled into the Northern Entrance. It's our own little mini-Alaska!
I live in the Death Valley mountains for the better part of 30 years. I won't say exactly where, because I'd lose my privacy, but I'm always in the canyons and mountains alone. Water is scarce but I know where many seep springs are located.
Obviously I love living like this!
When I camped on this lake a military fighter plane flew over the lake so low and so fast it was pulling water up from the lake it was strange it came from nowhere
Getting out in nature should not be feared! Live your life, be bold, have fun! Fear is for puss$#s!
All these people saying "I would never walk or camp in the woods" lmao. Tell me you're a weak person without telling me you're a weak person.
People need to know that it’s a spiritual world.
People need to know that the only way to god is through the son jesus
No I'm not embarrassed
For I know the truth Jesus Christ is my lord and saviour!
@@sampsonlonghair5559 amen
@@sampsonlonghair5559 what absolute rubbish the truth is Jesus Jehovah Yeshua YHWH Elohim or whatever ridiculous name you want to call your imaginary God is pure fiction stop reading your Bible upside-down and believing in those biblical fairytales. A closer examination of the evidence shows that the story of Jesus Christ is what we call mythology. Jesus began as a theological concept and was used as a character in allegorical stories and was then historical as someone whom people believed really existed. The belief in a literal human Jesus emerged as eucharist rituals and theology developed around the concept of the flesh and blood of christ and these concepts merged with allegorical narratives about the figure. There is thousands of God's but your Christian God is the one true God right because they ALL say that. Honestly how brainwashed and indoctrinated into that cult of christ are you?
@@ceeceee6056 I've stood face to face with Yeshua Sienna, rest assured he does exist and he does love you!
BEAUTIFUL country…! 🥰🥰👣🩴
You just walked past crater lake was It dry? HA HA HA.
I'm curious what you're carrying... do you have a gear list or done a gear run-through? Great vids too!
Will definitely do one next month after I finish the trail! Almost out of space on my phone too - this might be my last video for a while. Using my other camera and hope to edit a bunch of videos when I finish.
@@zachrotondo hope dude has a side arm...that's some dangerous parts brother
i was gona try pct but think i better see if i can do the other coast first if i dont die of old age before i can attempt keep hiking freind enjoy being away form the /insert verb here
Always carry out there wierd people and wildlife. Some crazy people met awesome people too. Lived in kfalls
Be careful out there buddy. Have 🤩
I use a grocery bag on my motorcycle trips for food. Nice and convenient.
In the 90's we would go out there to trip and ZERO problems.
Have you seen the blue orbs or amber orbs?
Ball lightning?
@@jegr3398 No such animal.
@@GAVACHO5150 That's a star. Orbs are small and close. Stars are big, hot and far away from you.
Gorgeous scene 💜 subbed
Back when this was a free country you could camp wherever you wanted without being extorted or molested by your government.
Isn't that the truth, for sures.👍
People leave beer at those stashes? Or was that just what people tossed? If they leave beer they need to leave a joint or two with a lighter. Be kinda a cool tradition if people did that. Always trying to leave what you can and only take when needed.
Why are people leaving their water jugs behind!?!?! Being from Hawaii something like that would be seen as very disrespectful.
Well this is California. There's a certain give and take where respect is concerned
It's a cashe that's refilled for hikers on dry parts of the trail
Give me a 500 dollar ticket and I'll get a warrant because I'm not paying to sleep.
I guess don't take id with you on your hike and you can tell them you're paul Bunyan
Why don't ppl carry a portable water filter, it's light and all you need is a one little water bottle I used it when I hiked on the Olympic peninsula in Washington. You can take any water and its ceramic filter filters everything out bad and you instantly have good drinking water as long as there is any stream or lake nearby. I think that's really bad for all those water bottles that are empty to be there, it's not good for the environment. If everyone would just have their own portable water filter this would eliminate this.
New subscriber Dinosaur Colorado USA saying hello and stay safe out there brother 😉🤙👍
good video. I think it is becoming more and more important to go with at least one other person.
For lots of reasons...
Good job bro…god bless u
Nice new official bag man. Yes it is getting cold quickly this year. Good luck
Thanks
I have camp here and loved it. But we did have a bear come up
I'd rather try this than staying in Minneapolis, where I'm from Now, THAT is a weird place, and I don't miss it.
Crater Lake is in my favorite video game Days Gone. So cool they used actual locations in the map.
BIG 10-4 right there. And God knows I wanted to. Thank you Dave Palides so saving a few of US.
The Appalachian trail even in NJ you run into all kinds. Some clearly not right.
No tent 🏕? Isn’t it bear & cougar country?
What's a tent going to do against a bear or cougar lol
@@low-keyrighteous9575 🤷🏻 it just seems safer. A slight deterrent. Out of sight? Of course a determined predator wouldn’t be stopped but it just feels safer.
Wonder why no camping on the rim?
It's not legal - $500 fine.
Crater lake is among the best places. The worse was mid 1970 south bronx. The bronx grand concourse was among the best places in the United states . Didn't take long to become a dump
It is horrifying to see the amount of garbage that people leave behind. Seeing those caches made my blood curl! I can understand why Bigfoot would want to boot humans out of its territory! Does anyone do the cleanup out there?
They get picked up when they re-supply the cache. Hikers actually pay in advance for water cache to be dropped in certain long stretches. Doesn't always get drooped or re-supplied in time sometimes whether it be from a ranger or trail angle or trail magic. It is nice to have the guthook app because hikers can drop a pin and make note to the hikers behind him the cache is empty or full or just a gallon left at that drop.
@@jeffccr3620 Thank you for the info. I appreciate. Let’s hope none of that plastic gets left behind or flies off in the wind.
If you believe in Bigfoot your dumb as rocks
That intro music is epic 🪐
dont eat the yellow snow and keep hiking, good luck.
Hey I'm a big fan of your videos and hope you post more soon! I'm thinking about hiking the appalacian trail in April and was wondering if you have any advice? Also how do you charge your device when on trail or do you wait to charge it until you reach a town?
+Sevvy sick! I'm itching to hike the AT... I used a battery pack. Kept my phone charged even on longer 8+ days out. Advice? Listen to your body, take it slow, be safe, have fun... you'll learn the rest quickly while hiking. I'm going to review my gear and talk about the trail in some new videos. Leaving Canada now and will post soon.
Are you in Vancouver by any chance? If you are and want to grab some beers on me let me know!
+Sevvy ya. I'm heading to Gastown on a little self guided tour with two friends. We're down to grab a drink. Don't have service but I'm checking things whenever I get wifi
The Cambie is my favourite bar down there if you're looking for a place. What time do you have in mind?
+Sevvy we're close by and down to have a drink. Will walk over around 4
Was this dude found?
the guy who made the video is missing?
@@bullluttttt serious ?
@@low-keyrighteous9575 I don't know I ask the question because of the comment of Itsme 23
it's been almost 4 years since he made a video,so
Love your video
Stay scared...more peace and quiet for me in the wilderness
Don't be that way Bruce, the whole world should be having fun and experiencing Gods beautiful nature! Maybe all the anger would leave them? A Godless world is an angry one, obviously!
We have sasquaths here in the sierras they snatch dogs hunters raid orchards and gardens chicken coops, weird but there for real just another kind of human who shares the mountains.