It took me 3 months to figure out the post under the seat was for a helmet. Unfortunately I have a 3/4 helmet XL that won't fit in the seat and has a ratchet clasp instead of D ring. I found online a steel T shaped adapter that slides in the clasp and then has a hole in the end to go over the post. I bent it about 30° and it works perfectly.
Good review Peter you hit on all the important points These bikes are just sooooo smoooth I can ride around all day Not having to throw your leg over a motorcycle when you do errands is great the step through design is so convenient and easy
Pete, Love your Reviews… thoroughly clear and informative, Q.. If using a 50cc Liberty or Primavera on country back roads is it possible to travel distances, not looking for anything over 30mph, just some Country Cruising… Thank You… James.
Honestly, that's one of my favourite things to do with scooters! Just see how far you can go taking the "out of the way" route to get places. Where I live, I'd have to get a 150cc bike as there are 90km/h roads nearby, but in many places you can wander big distances on small scooters. It's not for everyone, but if you're adventurous, it's worth it! I'm hoping that one day I can buy a scooter to make some content as a long term test vehicle. I think it would be fun to show everything a scooter can really do!
i drive these at work, but cargo variant and often load it with 50kg + load.. Slow but it has torque and it corners great. Dash dies after two years, light switch soon after. I really abuse Liberties and they last 40-50k km without bigger repairs. Good scooter for sure.
I bought a brand new Piaggio Liberty 50cc in March 2023. Never worked properly since the day I bought it. The engine simply totally stopped responding after some use. I took it several times to the dealer who is an experienced mechanic, took months until Piaggio sent the necessary parts that needed to be replaced. Still, my scooter once again presented other problems this time. Once again it is waiting to be fixed. Piaggio seems to be taking its time to do it. I contacted them describing the problems and all I got is the standard reply that I have two years guarantee. At this rate, it seems that it will spend the first two years in the garage. End result is that I paid for a new scooter in March and still I do not have it. Totally unreliable company, how can you possibly say it is best value for money I wonder. I would not recommend it by any means
Thanks for the detail. The only thing i don't like about this scooter is the size. It seems huge. I used to have a Kymco People 50, which had those same 16 inch wheels, and i loved it. But the body was a bit smaller and lighter than the Liberty. Unfortunately, scooters with 16-inch wheels are almost impossible to find in US. For some reason, companies think we only want those tiny 10-inch wheeled scooters, which abound.
Ok, how fast will it go? I have heard 50CC will not go over 30mph? I’ve heard 30 because some type of governor is placed to stop 50CC from going faster?
I think about 35 to 38 mph is more accurate from my experience. I film in Canada, so we have km/h. They'll go a little over 50 km/h. It will depend on rider weight and other factors on how much faster.
I've enjoyed a 150 for 3-4 years now. Very practical scooter and the bigger wheels mean they roll a bit nicer and the tires last a bit longer than the smaller wheeled scooters.
I am researching on Piaggio Library 150cc because I own 07 Piaggio mp3 250 IE and it to heavy just push it off center stand and hard find parts for it! 😅
Under California law this will be a Motor-driven cycle. Which is a motor vehicle with less than 149cc. You will need a M1 license or endorsement to drive this.
I live in an area where three towns are all linked together. Work is a mile away, shopping farmers market, etc are all five minutes away. I’m a big guy at 5’10” and 230lb. (what can I say, my wife is a great cook 😉). Is a fifty cc Vespa or Liberty too underpowered?
It's not that they're underpowered, but the performance will be lacking for over 200 lbs. LOTS of people around the world ride these 50 cc models with two people, and they work perfectly fine, but if it were me, if it were possible, I'd go for the 150 because you can do anything in town, and still hold a safe speed on secondary highways. (That's why I prefer the 150's.)
I'm in Nova Scotia. Can I drive one of these without any license at all? I cannot drive a car for medical reasons so I've only been able to ride eBikes for the past 15 years. I want more range. I will be due for a new lithium battery, and a good chunk of that cost would cover one of these. I'd rather get one of these.
Haha! That's a popular opinion. I like the Vespa look and this look equally, but I'll admit, the traditional Vespa style draws me in, even if I know that these larger wheels are probably better for my type of riding. Thanks for watching!
$2,599 how on earth do even know if we want to mess with something with no price it's always such a gd secret want a Vespa it's going to be over $4,000. know why cars have a federal sticker price? in the 60's so many car dealers were ripping people off they made a law about it. my son calls me and tells me the motorcycle dealer has a cool bike for $5,000 I gp look and ask the price they tell me$6,000 (not this dealer). i guess i just loo0k more stupid than him
It took me 3 months to figure out the post under the seat was for a helmet. Unfortunately I have a 3/4 helmet XL that won't fit in the seat and has a ratchet clasp instead of D ring. I found online a steel T shaped adapter that slides in the clasp and then has a hole in the end to go over the post. I bent it about 30° and it works perfectly.
You can lock your helmet with ratchet clasp inside the bucket under seat.
Good review Peter you hit on all the important points
These bikes are just sooooo smoooth I can ride around all day
Not having to throw your leg over a motorcycle when you do errands is great the step through design is so convenient and easy
Pete, Love your Reviews… thoroughly clear and informative, Q.. If using a 50cc Liberty or Primavera on country back roads is it possible to travel distances, not looking for anything over 30mph, just some Country Cruising… Thank You… James.
Honestly, that's one of my favourite things to do with scooters! Just see how far you can go taking the "out of the way" route to get places. Where I live, I'd have to get a 150cc bike as there are 90km/h roads nearby, but in many places you can wander big distances on small scooters. It's not for everyone, but if you're adventurous, it's worth it! I'm hoping that one day I can buy a scooter to make some content as a long term test vehicle. I think it would be fun to show everything a scooter can really do!
He always does a good job explaining all the details for the bikes he reviews.
Go for the 150cc. You won't regret it.
TH-camr Mr. Robot of Motorsport Vespa in San Diego has a video about his trip to Nevada on a Vespa 50 via country road!
i drive these at work, but cargo variant and often load it with 50kg + load.. Slow but it has torque and it corners great. Dash dies after two years, light switch soon after. I really abuse Liberties and they last 40-50k km without bigger repairs. Good scooter for sure.
Thanks for sharing!
I'm curious how much a new switch cost. I assume it's a DIY repair.
I bought a brand new Piaggio Liberty 50cc in March 2023. Never worked properly since the day I bought it. The engine simply totally stopped responding after some use. I took it several times to the dealer who is an experienced mechanic, took months until Piaggio sent the necessary parts that needed to be replaced. Still, my scooter once again presented other problems this time. Once again it is waiting to be fixed. Piaggio seems to be taking its time to do it. I contacted them describing the problems and all I got is the standard reply that I have two years guarantee. At this rate, it seems that it will spend the first two years in the garage. End result is that I paid for a new scooter in March and still I do not have it. Totally unreliable company, how can you possibly say it is best value for money I wonder. I would not recommend it by any means
Thank you for a nice review. I do not understand the meaning of Trip A and Trip B. How to use that?
So you can record the distance on two separate trips
Is the storage under the seats big enough for a trumpet while it is in its case?
Nope!
What is the weight capacity? Do you really can ride with the adult passenger on 50 cc ? Thanks
Great job explaining the scooter 🛵
Are these available in America?
Yes
Yes. Just google it, and you will find it.
Thanks for the detail. The only thing i don't like about this scooter is the size. It seems huge. I used to have a Kymco People 50, which had those same 16 inch wheels, and i loved it. But the body was a bit smaller and lighter than the Liberty. Unfortunately, scooters with 16-inch wheels are almost impossible to find in US. For some reason, companies think we only want those tiny 10-inch wheeled scooters, which abound.
Ok, how fast will it go? I have heard 50CC will not go over 30mph? I’ve heard 30 because some type of governor is placed to stop 50CC from going faster?
I think about 35 to 38 mph is more accurate from my experience. I film in Canada, so we have km/h. They'll go a little over 50 km/h. It will depend on rider weight and other factors on how much faster.
@@PeterLoweOnewhat is your weight and what top speed did it reach?
Is this type of scooter good for work comute? Like a distance of 21 miles just to get from home to work?
Yes, but take secondary road instead of highway because the slow speed(less than 60 kilometres per hour/!
I BOUGHT A 50CC AND HAVE RODE IT 4 YRS.NEVER A PROBLEM..
I've enjoyed a 150 for 3-4 years now. Very practical scooter and the bigger wheels mean they roll a bit nicer and the tires last a bit longer than the smaller wheeled scooters.
These scooters are such great value, and fun! I wish more people knew about them!
this is going to be my first scooter
I have this but older one,it's best desicion of my life
I want this bike
ok this one is on my list ,,, thanks
Congratulations Peter, Excellent Videos. Can you compare Piaggio Liberty 50 cc
vs Aprilia sr motard 50cc
Brilliant little scooter like thanks class videos 👍🇬🇧🇨🇦
How much is a50cc scooter
Check the link in the description of this video for the most up to date pricing.
What is the price on a new one
Check out the link in the description for up to date pricing.
I am researching on Piaggio Library 150cc because I own 07 Piaggio mp3 250 IE and it to heavy just push it off center stand and hard find parts for it! 😅
The Piaggio 150cc is really easy to manage, I think you'l like it! Thanks for watching!
I have Piaggio Beverly that shares many parts with MP3 which is also hard to find! Hate it's water pump.
Can you drive this with regular CA. car license?
Under California law this will be a Motor-driven cycle. Which is a motor vehicle with less than 149cc. You will need a M1 license or endorsement to drive this.
I live in an area where three towns are all linked together. Work is a mile away, shopping farmers market, etc are all five minutes away. I’m a big guy at 5’10” and 230lb. (what can I say, my wife is a great cook 😉). Is a fifty cc Vespa or Liberty too underpowered?
It's not that they're underpowered, but the performance will be lacking for over 200 lbs. LOTS of people around the world ride these 50 cc models with two people, and they work perfectly fine, but if it were me, if it were possible, I'd go for the 150 because you can do anything in town, and still hold a safe speed on secondary highways. (That's why I prefer the 150's.)
@@PeterLoweOne sounds like good advice. 👌
Posso sapere la differenza del liberty 50 2023 con quelli precedenti?
In Canada, il modello 2023 è lo stesso del modello 2022. Avrà alcuni nuovi colori.
How much it sir
Up to date pricing can always be found using the link in the description.
I'm in Nova Scotia. Can I drive one of these without any license at all? I cannot drive a car for medical reasons so I've only been able to ride eBikes for the past 15 years. I want more range. I will be due for a new lithium battery, and a good chunk of that cost would cover one of these. I'd rather get one of these.
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These bikes look better than Vespas
Haha! That's a popular opinion. I like the Vespa look and this look equally, but I'll admit, the traditional Vespa style draws me in, even if I know that these larger wheels are probably better for my type of riding. Thanks for watching!
Beautiful scooter, but only for small people
I'm 5 ft 11 inches, and i test drove one. Very comfortable. I never thought of myself as a small person.
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50cc need laisans
$2,599 how on earth do even know if we want to mess with something with no price it's always such a gd secret want a Vespa it's going to be over $4,000. know why cars have a federal sticker price? in the 60's so many car dealers were ripping people off they made a law about it. my son calls me and tells me the motorcycle dealer has a cool bike for $5,000 I gp look and ask the price they tell me$6,000 (not this dealer). i guess i just loo0k more stupid than him
Price is very easily available with a simple google search. Don't know why you're having such trouble finding that info.
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