People really act like if a card game isnt dethroning magic, then it cant survive. There are plenty of more niche games that still have healthy playerbases
@@cf135 Our local store gets more attendance for Lorcana than for ANY non-commander Magic event. And I say this as someone whom played Magic for 20 years and basically entirely moved to Lorcana.
Australia is have its first challenge event in a month. I know hundreds who are tracking from across the other side of this vast desert who are attending. Doubt the games going anywhere soon
So I'm a Pokémon player myself, but I help organise my local league and we work closely with the Lorcana group. Here there's definitely a bit of a dropoff in the players already but that's to be expected after a first boom, always a 50/50 if it wants to stick. The people still playing seem very passionate about it however and as long as Ravensburger doesn't do something stupid I definitely expect they're here to stay
I'm curious to see what happens when we get on year 3. Will they create an eternal and a rotating format? Right now it's still very beginner friendly, I'm concerned that either it won't be on the near future, or it will get boring of cards divvy do "more", but that potential problem is years in the future
I think we will get some kind of rotation at some point. What it looks like and when it happens remains to be seen. But I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen at some point.
As someone who helps run a comic book store, not to be negative but I don’t think it is going to last outside of niche communities in larger cities. I’ve only ever sold two Lorcana packs and one deck, which is nothing in comparison of even the smallest of the three Yugioh, that pales in comparison of Pokémon/Magic. There just isn’t the fan base that routinely comes back like with Magic/Yugioh (where they want to remain competitive for decks) or fans wanting to just collect (Pokémon), at least in rural/medium sized towns.
I think the issue is also supply. Many tend to buy stores of all products to resell at ridiculous prices and leave the rest of us trying to hunt down product. It's not just happening with Lorcana but everything. I see people who don't even play buying because they want to make money off it.
@ Possibly, we have Yugioh tournaments kick off routinely, in fact the time between Thanksgiving/Christmas has been the driest season in quite some time. Some have expressed some interest in One Piece but no where near enough for us to buy into it, especially when it’s at most two/three people. Idk why the owner bought into Lorcana since it’s also only two/three people who have bought product and nobody has asked me about how the game is run, but at the end of the day I don’t approve orders so idk.
I don’t know if you can play lorcana at your store as well? This because of what i see in my town is that the store where you can play lorcana, sells out all of there pre-order sets, and the stores where you can only buy instead of buying and playing won’t sell that much.
Can't say that's the case in my area, the game is frequently sold put of product at all our big box stores. Game stores usually have stuff but they tend to run out of certain boxes by the time a new set comes out.
It is a lot easier now, all the scalpers left after the first set or two thankfully. I do think there's a big problem with allocation at the moment though, but that has to do with distributors and not Ravensburger. I see people in the comments saying their stores can't get rid of the cards, meanwhile in my area which has tons of card game players, big box stores can't seem to keep the shelves stocked and games strore managers often tell me they get about half of the product that they actually order (so not enough). Seems like the game isn't selling bad, it's selling well, but that they're sending large quantities of product to areas that probably need a lot less.
I feel like the major problem with Lorcana is that it's very limited in its potential. Pokemon, Yugioh, and MtG have the freedom to not be bound to characters, where each one is capable of basically producing new cards every few months with new characters. Yes, they each have their staples that they'll return to, but that's not all these tcg's have. Lorcana has a major problem where they can only use Disney characters (yes, they can start bringing in star wars and marvel to have more options, but even that's not gonna be good enough to sustain this game). At the end, we won't know the longevity of this game until 4.5 years from now which is the make it or break it period of damn near every tcg.
1. There are so many Disney characters it's insane 2. You brought up Pokémon which is literally an argument I made in the video. There's been 200+ Pikachu cards in the history of the game, and it's fine, Pokémon still sells incredibly well. 3. The existence of its own lore and Floodborn characters breaks any limits they might have had, plus every card has subtitles, which also breaks any arbitrary limits they may have had.
People really act like if a card game isnt dethroning magic, then it cant survive. There are plenty of more niche games that still have healthy playerbases
@@cf135 Our local store gets more attendance for Lorcana than for ANY non-commander Magic event.
And I say this as someone whom played Magic for 20 years and basically entirely moved to Lorcana.
Glad to see an even-headed response to a lot of, let's say "less than good faith criticisms" of the game. Thank you for making this!
Australia is have its first challenge event in a month. I know hundreds who are tracking from across the other side of this vast desert who are attending. Doubt the games going anywhere soon
I don't really play the game, but I love collecting them. Things are looking great!
This is such a great video! And I totally agree with your points. Bravo 👏
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
So I'm a Pokémon player myself, but I help organise my local league and we work closely with the Lorcana group. Here there's definitely a bit of a dropoff in the players already but that's to be expected after a first boom, always a 50/50 if it wants to stick. The people still playing seem very passionate about it however and as long as Ravensburger doesn't do something stupid I definitely expect they're here to stay
I'm curious to see what happens when we get on year 3. Will they create an eternal and a rotating format?
Right now it's still very beginner friendly, I'm concerned that either it won't be on the near future, or it will get boring of cards divvy do "more", but that potential problem is years in the future
I think we will get some kind of rotation at some point. What it looks like and when it happens remains to be seen. But I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen at some point.
As someone who helps run a comic book store, not to be negative but I don’t think it is going to last outside of niche communities in larger cities. I’ve only ever sold two Lorcana packs and one deck, which is nothing in comparison of even the smallest of the three Yugioh, that pales in comparison of Pokémon/Magic.
There just isn’t the fan base that routinely comes back like with Magic/Yugioh (where they want to remain competitive for decks) or fans wanting to just collect (Pokémon), at least in rural/medium sized towns.
I think the issue is also supply. Many tend to buy stores of all products to resell at ridiculous prices and leave the rest of us trying to hunt down product. It's not just happening with Lorcana but everything. I see people who don't even play buying because they want to make money off it.
Might just be your store. Our area is thriving. Same with one piece. And we see almost zero yugioh.
@ Possibly, we have Yugioh tournaments kick off routinely, in fact the time between Thanksgiving/Christmas has been the driest season in quite some time.
Some have expressed some interest in One Piece but no where near enough for us to buy into it, especially when it’s at most two/three people. Idk why the owner bought into Lorcana since it’s also only two/three people who have bought product and nobody has asked me about how the game is run, but at the end of the day I don’t approve orders so idk.
I don’t know if you can play lorcana at your store as well? This because of what i see in my town is that the store where you can play lorcana, sells out all of there pre-order sets, and the stores where you can only buy instead of buying and playing won’t sell that much.
Well said! ❤
The arguement about “running out of characters” is so nonsensical.
I was going to play this but my lgs got shut down after the owner locked a kid in his store for hours attacking him so now there’s nowhere to play
Yikes. I hope you can find a group somewhere.
I wish i could play it with the sim
Yeah idk. I’ve seen lorcana rot on local gamestore shelves more than other niche games like digimon or onepiece
Can't say that's the case in my area, the game is frequently sold put of product at all our big box stores. Game stores usually have stuff but they tend to run out of certain boxes by the time a new set comes out.
It’s definitely easier to find packs now. This is the extent of my knowledge of the game.
It is a lot easier now, all the scalpers left after the first set or two thankfully. I do think there's a big problem with allocation at the moment though, but that has to do with distributors and not Ravensburger. I see people in the comments saying their stores can't get rid of the cards, meanwhile in my area which has tons of card game players, big box stores can't seem to keep the shelves stocked and games strore managers often tell me they get about half of the product that they actually order (so not enough). Seems like the game isn't selling bad, it's selling well, but that they're sending large quantities of product to areas that probably need a lot less.
@ scalpers suck. Hopefully the distribution issue is a solvable problem.
It's ok, you can say Rudy's name 😂
Not gonna lie I forgot all about that guy. Even when I played Magic I didn't really watch his videos.
I feel like the major problem with Lorcana is that it's very limited in its potential. Pokemon, Yugioh, and MtG have the freedom to not be bound to characters, where each one is capable of basically producing new cards every few months with new characters. Yes, they each have their staples that they'll return to, but that's not all these tcg's have. Lorcana has a major problem where they can only use Disney characters (yes, they can start bringing in star wars and marvel to have more options, but even that's not gonna be good enough to sustain this game). At the end, we won't know the longevity of this game until 4.5 years from now which is the make it or break it period of damn near every tcg.
1. There are so many Disney characters it's insane
2. You brought up Pokémon which is literally an argument I made in the video. There's been 200+ Pikachu cards in the history of the game, and it's fine, Pokémon still sells incredibly well.
3. The existence of its own lore and Floodborn characters breaks any limits they might have had, plus every card has subtitles, which also breaks any arbitrary limits they may have had.
Not to mention there are actual "lorcana" based items as well like hidden inkcaster.
The current meta for the game is boring af and it hasnt changed in almost a year, We get like 2 playable cards a set
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