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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 พ.ย. 2022
- Jocko Podcast 27 - 01:50:17 - 02:01:41
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You guys didn’t mantion that in Judo there ARE chokes and arm bars and locks. Its not only pins
Leg grabs were not banned because of wrestlers. No wrestler ever won a big international ijf tournament. They were partially banned in 2010 because they usually only scored koka or yuko, which is like advantage in bjj, and then he would play defensively to ride out the time to win on points. In 2013 they were banned outright to differentiate themselves from wrestling which the IOC dropped from the Olympics temporarily.
Great commentary! One thing i have a different opinion though, best to learn Judo before juijitsu. Concentrating too much on ground before stand up throws can slow down your progress in throwing later on. This observation was made by jigoro kano in the book "mind over muscle".
Facts: A judo player fighting your average bad guy on the street will win the confrontation much quicker, with less effort and danger of getting injured himself compared to a Jiu Jitsu player. Problem is JJ player will probably submit the Judo player on the ground in a training setting where there are mats, pulling guard is ok, Judo player has to engage on the ground, no punches etc... so they think its better overall. Same goes for wrestling compared to JJ. For fighting Judo and wrestling are better no doubt, plus as a judo or wrestler you train Jiu Jitsu for 3-6 months and that familiarity with Jiu Jitsu brings the Jiu Jitsu players you can probably control on the ground all the way up to brown belt. Thats if you are already a high level Judo/Wrestler.
I studied Judo in the military. My Sensei was one of the guys that the Strategic Air Command sent to Japan to learn what they considerd the most effective way to fight in combat. I slammed a dude who tried to rob me in a Greyhound bus terminal and he just layed there for a bit and gave me plenty of time to escape. I also slammed a guy when he attacked me playing volleyball, it took him awhile to get up before leaving the game embarrassed as hell. Nothing can end a fight faste than slamming someone hard..A saying in Judo is "Let the ground do the hitting"
Should have this conversation with Travis Stevens.
you could ask them to compare a nuke with jiu jitsu and somehow Jocko and Echo would still end up favoring jiu jitsu
If the leg ban was because of wrestling guys, greco roman wrestlers would dominate judo. Which is clearly not the case, leg ban was to differenciate judo from wrestling
As a judoka my view is run, if u can't, throw then run. The chances of an untrained person being thrown on concrete and contine fighting is highly unlikely. I know how to fall and be thrown, and we have really good mats, it's sucks. I can't imagine what that would be like on concrete. I've used judo to defend myself and it wasn't a big throw and it was on wet grass, the guy was completely shell shocked.
Jocko!! You couldn't have explained it better. As a Judoka, i agree that part of the fighting has been left out in completions due to rules.
Judoka here - a fair commentary save that it wasn’t mentioned that choke, strangle and armbar submissions are still a significant part of the Judo curriculum.
Judo is the only martial art that uses the concrete as a weapon. The best part about that weapon is that it is everywhere you go, and you don't have to carry it.
Several wrong things in the podcast by Jocko:
You dont need a triangle choke or pin ur attacker when u can throw them headfirst in the hard concrete Judo is badass
I like to look at bjj, judo, wrestling, and sambo as just brand names for grappling. The question then becomes which brand name do you want to buy, but you're still just grappling
In Judo if you pick up your opponent whose holding guard/triangle etc for a slam, you reset.
I have to disagree with jacko. He is absolutely wrong when he stated on
Personally I like to do more judo takedowns in the Gi and in No gi I use more wrestling style takedowns
I don't understand why they want people to think that the rear naked choke (hadaka-jime) and other submissions don't exist in judo nor that judoka don't practice both standing (tachiwaza) and groundfighting (newaza).
Can’t throw a rock these days without hitting a jj fan or gym. Super trendy Like the new crossfit.