BELLY BOW BATTLE! (with Jörg Sprave)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Jörg and I have collaborated at a distance before, but never met for real.....
Jörg saw a video of my gastraphetes and decided to make his own version in only the way Jorg can and as he is in the UK right now, I took my Gastraphetes over for a comparison with his more modern version.
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The craftsman dream team is coming to show us their features.
@@justapotatogaming677 wtf are you going on about?
@@rockinHurley777 probably some kid who has no idea what he's doing
@@rockinHurley777 He wants to see their features 🤣🤣
Jorge only has one power level....over the top.
Jorge knows only 2 modes: Sleep and Destroy and he ain't wearing no pyjamas
I was kind of worried there for a while Tod was going to be flung somewhere over the top until he got through the initial power stroke of Jorg's bow
It's over... 9000?
MORE POWER! HOUHOUHOU!
Ah yes, Jorge Správez
9:28 "I wanted more power so I had to just take another one" - Joerg talking about neighbouring kingdoms.
That line goes well with the German accent.
@@bigsolidboss781 Probably Hitler's words xD
bwahahahaha xD
Teacher i require se little polish boys desk too
"Now you lift it up, when you actually shoot it like a normal bow." gun noise.
when you install too many mods and accidentally some conflict occurs in your skyrim game and all bows sound like guns now
Meanwhile it shoots more like an Instant Legolas than a normal pre-20th-century bow.
@@daanwilmer well, those are the norm now for him XD
@@daanwilmer But he said he wanted to be true to the crossbow so it had a lock. That is not at all like the IL :D
I would love to see a crossbow with Jorg's design sense and made by Tod with the technology and materials realistically available in medieval Europe.
That would be a great idea, but there are so many crazy things to make instead......20 shot arrow sabots for giant crossbows........etc
@@tods_workshop that sounds insane lol
@@tods_workshop an anti tank crossbow? This sounds fun. APDS bolts? Sounds like Jorge
@@tods_workshop now that I wanna see like a crossbow shotgun fleshet rounds
@@peach8685 a crossbow that shoots drones that launch knives.
Jorg: "Serious kick"
Slow mo Jorg: "Motionless and emotionless"
Hahahah, I noticed that as well. His body had zero movement as a result of firing it.
I love how these two guys who work in completely different interact with one another in such a mutually respectful way and just have a laugh
It is nice, but at the end of the day we both like to shoot interesting stuff
@@tods_workshop that’s why we all think the content you both make in so great!
@@tods_workshop I can definitely identify with that. I love to shoot interesting things as well, the next best thing is watching you guys shoot interesting things. Cheers
Jorg: "But wouldn't it be possible to..."
Tod: "Well they didn't have a Jorg Sprave did they."
"Jorge Sprave made one in his garage...... OUT OF SCRAPS!!!!!"
"I'm not Jorge Sprave....."
What can you do with a CO2 fire extinguisher for use as a power source?
@@aishashaw5885 stop! dont put ideas in his head. germany is not allowed to have devices on the same level als nukes
"I had to use 2 bows cause i maxed out whats posible on one"
Jörg channeling Gork and Mork!
MOAR DAKKA!
Waaaaaagh
Jörg as a warboss. The imperium would not stand a chance.
Even Yarrick would piss himself..
@@timbackman5915 dont get ahead of yourself
Holy.... Joerg's Overkill Crossbow makes an echo
That wonderful British understatement. 'Blimey'. Quietly spoken as the arrow goes through the target and both ends of the barn!
i have a 80lbs longbow.. and have now plenty of holes in my barn...
A dream collaboration - two ends of a spectrum, and both fantastic content creators.
Thanks and it was a fun day
Well said Ian. Couldn't agree more.
@@tods_workshop I thought you were going to stab Jorg when you pulled out the crossbow bolt and he moved in. You know the majority of archery injuries is when you pull out the arrows.
There's an obvious difference, but I mean, that's sorta a given with over two millennia of technological progress. The original is very impressive for it's time!
Thanks
@@tods_workshop You're quite welcome! Keep making cool weapons and videos!
@@tods_workshop Haha, no need to be humble. It's a given.
Can you imagine these two presenting themselves to an ancient King 2,000 years ago. "Your Highness, we may be of service to you"
And THAT my friend was how the world was conquered !!
I can imagine we get a 1100lb multi shot elephant killing crossbow with red dot and laser aiming...of course made tastefully in original medieval style.
Bellygolas
collab of the century! Lets see it's features!
4:30 - "Modern day gastro-fetus."
The belly baby.
Jorg is actually pronouncing it more correctly than Tod is. its "gas-tra-fee-tees"
@@Hephera that's because in German you generally pronounce words like you write them, in English you do not. Example: The letter e in English may be pronounced in like...4 different ways? Can be ə ɛ ɪ i or even voiceless. In German it's way more consistent.
This is what happens when two mad scientists hang out together.
Glorious, isn't it?
Joerg “Serious kick!”
*As solid as a statue in replay*
I want a Jörg isekai anime where hes send to the middle ages!
Sadly theres no truck big enough that could send Jörg off.
Kkkkkk this is gold my friend
It'd need to be a heavy industrial mining ore carrier truck-kun that isekais Jorg off
He isekai'd the truck.
I want to see a Tod & Jorge Trebuchet collaboration. "Can we hit Calais with a dead cow? Let's find out".
Jorge saying "let me show you it's features hahaha" as Todd slowly cranes the lifeless carcass of a belted Galloway into a mass of wood, rubber and steel re-enforcements would be quite a visual
The First Trebuchet with a 20 Shot magazine and a firing rate of 2 cows/second
@@vincentvt6229 High capacity magazines might fall foul of current firearms regulations. Maybe a 5 round stripper clip would be ok.
I had the same thought! A trebuchet collab would be AMAZING!!!
Rubber powered of course here at the slingshot todd channel lol🤔
"let me show its features"
Ultimate power!
This model, I call the Gillette. Four compound bows combined!
when you shot a weapon and it makes everybody laugh and smile like a small child you know you done a good job
Maybe Jörg and Todd should make a pommel-pummler together. Jörg makes slingshots, Todd makes crossbows and swords, nobody else could make medieval artillery that could end one rightly.
Coil spring pommel launcher
"what should we do together?"
easy... make repeating balista...
Full auto ballista
Rapid fire trebuchet.
@@SuperDominic4 It's been done. If I believed in reincarnation I would suspect that Dionysius of Alexandria was Georg Sprave in a past life.
Yes! Repeating balista!
Yes
brilliant! two youtube giants (well one giant and one slightly vertically challenged craftsman) talk about belly bows..! my day is complete and it's only 9 am! great stuff fellas.
I dont think Tod is short
@@wierdalien1 hahah, who said he was? it just when standing next to the Teutonic man-mountain any mere mortal would appear "challenged" in the size dept..
Tod: How would it be made by historical people with historical context and mindset.
Joerg: I JUST GOT 4 BOWS THAT I BUFFED TO THEIR LIMITS AND 600 HP DIESEL ENGINE HOOKED TO THAT WITH 5 THOUSAND ARROWS IN DETACHABLE MAGAZINE! LET ME SHOW YOU ITS FEATURES.
Joerg is a genius, honestly. in everything he makes its obvious he thinks about every single part and aspect of a weapon when he makes something. great vid Tod.
Jorg's sounds like a gun, not that I've ever heard real gunfire though.
Ive heard real gunfire, and it does haha
@@Seraphus87 Agreed very scary, be interesting to hear what just the bow sounded like shooting a more distant target...
That's freaking ballista
I hope someone makes this thing it’s wicked powerful and you don’t need a cocking device other than your body
Trust me, it does
"LET MI SCHÖU JU ITS FIITSCHÜRZ! HA HA HA!"
:D awesome
I wondered when the excellent ancient bowmaker Tod and the excellent thought out modern bow maker Jörg would meet. Looking forward to the joint project. Thanks guys.
The mad engineer meets the virtuoso craftsman
Fun fact: finnish hunters used to shoot on the hip "very accurately" until at least 1798-99, described by italian Giuseppe Acerbi.
@@grigorsamsa6564 if you practice a lot MAYBE it's accurate, but it's a very stupid way to shoot and is inherently inaccurate and offers no advantages over instinctive shooting while shouldering
@@LaughingMan44 Yes, to be able to shoulder a weapon and aim with it, is an overlooked feature. Its no wonder that handgonnes were not revolutionary in warfare even though they were more powerful than bows and crossbows, only with the later invention of the arquebus, which you can shoulder and give aimed fire, battles began to change drastically.
@@Scout887 Pistols/handguns of that period were not necessarily more "powerful" than crossbows and, say, longbows: within 10 meters perhaps, but the velocity of such handgun projectiles would have dropped dramatically and quickly. Arquebus not only were powerful, they had far better effective range of the handguns.
I mean, gun slingers shot from the hip. There are still competitions where they need to shoot guns as fast and accurate as possible from the hip, so it can be done with training. It'll never be quite as accurate, but I guess you learn through muscle memory.
@@MrEsphoenix can be done =/= practical or logical
I feel like this thing is intended to be used from fortifications. You reload behind a wall and then rest it on a loophole or battlement and hold the handles with both hands to aim.
The day these two come into the shop together, we'll end up having a self-loading, repeating siege ballista with exchangeable magazines that is able to pierce through aircraft. And we'll love it.
Someone has shot down a helicopter with a homemade crossbow made from car leaf spring. Was mentioned in TV programme years ago: troops were sent to protect oil company staff from locals.
Trying to look up where it was (I thought in happened in Indonesia) apparently from an excerpt from her soon-to-be published memoir: USO Girl in Vietnam by Suzanne Cogan it had also happened in Vietnam.
0:20 - missed opportunity to say "and today I have a Jörg Sprave here... let me show you his features"
Regarding which weapon you guys should make together: a siege engine of some kind would do just nicely.
How about this for your collaborative weapon: A spear that can launch its own head.
If you can lauch the spearhead a few meters and then retract it and the head of the spear is placed again solidly, that my friend, is a fucking incredible weapon.
Hi tod. Could you covere rock slings again, maybe a long vs short, light vs heavy, glandes vs stones, etc.
This may have been said elsewhere, but has Joerg considered using different cams which don't have such an abrupt fall-off? If you're using your weight to draw it, the draw force is pretty constant, and since he put a lock on it, it doesn't need to be so light at full draw. Also it looked awkward to have such a jerk downwards (and the rail almost jabbing one's stomach) when the resistance suddenly fell.
Agreed. This is a very small hole in his ethos of design. He’s a big strong guy, (I am as well so I definitely understand) and many of his designs reflect this rough and ready attitude. Also let us not forget he’s often making a quick and dirty tool/weapon.
alternatively, adding a stirrup on the bottom of the contraption and some rubber bands could allow to use even stronger bow. Basically invest energy on pulling the bow back with your legs and back muscles, and retrieve it when pushing down (especially it would help on the initial stage of the string drawing). This solution would allow to have draw weight even higher, then shooter's own mass.
Combine Tod's skill with medieval implements with Jörg's penchant for P O W E R, and make a ballista
Zeus's lightning bolt. I'm imagining an elite squad of gastrophetes archers in a fantasy setting.
Jörg's hi-tech gastraphetes sounds almost like a rifle while shooting ! :-O
Joerg: Let me show you mine
Tod: Yes, please
Tod's wife: >:(
I'd love to see Todd and Joerg sketch a dream weapon they'll build over beers...the further the video drags on the more features get thrown on
I am left speechless. How lucky can we get ? Tod and Jorge together IRL, agreeing to make a weapon together? I have no words.
The two of you together makes for twice the fun.
Just saw Joerg's Vid, then came here.
I like jörg's laugh . Especially when he's talking about powerful the weapon is lol
For the collaboration: Trebuchet.
Repeating Trebuchet
4:03 Jorg fires an unfamiliar weapon and doesn't even blink, let alone flinch.
I like the elbump at the end; I wonder if that will survive as a replacement for shaking hands once Covid is a fading memory?
In this episode a couple of craftsman compare bellies. Let me show you their features.
A bromance for the ages! You two should definitely collaborate on a repeating ballista.
The JoergsTod machine ballista
So glad you both got to finally meet and hang out, that was great! I do also hope this will become a regular thing.
Tod and Jörg. It finally happened. I hope the universe can handle this. 💪😅
It's so fun seeing you two hanging out and nerding over weapons. Can't wait to see what else you both make
Hi, I'm Tod Cutlery from the Workshop & Tod's Cutlery Workshop & Workshop
That was Fantastic!
Can’t wait for the cooperative weapon!
I would like to see some numbers for these: speed, arrow weight, range. Maybe you could make a video about that.
Thank you gents for sharing and this was a true joy to watch. Looking forward to that combined effort. Take care and God Bless. 💖
Instat legooas, instant gastraphetes Next episode instant-trebuche-anti-catsle-minigun.
When he said that it was made of two compound bows, I had a vision of it shooting two arrows at once!
I'd feel nervous with Jörg's bow, with the end coming up towards my face as I push down and those handles looking a tad shaky. Perhaps with slightly longer, connected levers?
a portable trebuce that fires steel ball bearing at 300 fps or more . Like a tiny version you can carry around . That is what you should make and of course a rubber banded Ballista .
This is going to have a shed load of views by lunchtime.
1K at 1205
What a legendary collaboration with such a legendary concept.
When your two favourite channels do a inperson collaboration. Get in there, And you get to watch it twice lol.
Jörg Sprave is a true legend of our community. I love him and his content!
I thought Jorge's bow was double barrelled for a second
As for a joint project a version of a seige weapon or find a way to recock a medieval style crossbow like a windlass without needing to remove the cocking device
The screw-worm in the stock crossbow would do that. I know it's in Payne-Gallaway's "Crossbow" book but wouldn't be surprised if Tod's already done it a while ago.
@@2bingtim if it's similar to the "assassin's crossbow" it would be very ineffective. Not having to remove a part is only a bonus if it doesn't increase loading time
@@ricasteli The advantage you're missing is that if it's intrinsic to the bow, you can't lose or get stolen the cocking device. It's basically a long threaded rod that goes right through the stock from the butt, ending in a claw to engage the string. A kinda large wing-nut at the butt is what you wind up/down to allow the claw to reach & engage the string, then wound up until it cocks the string at the nut. Not terribly fast to use I'd think, but probably similar to cranequins or windlasses. I'd guess a lever-system built into the stock would be best for speed.
How about making modernized Trebuchet with Jörg? Also fantastic to see two great craftsmen together.
Joerg and Tod should bring back his "rowing machine" bow. But make one where you lie on the ground (small target) and shoot great distances with good aiming.
when Jorg is showing his creations Tod is nodding in both respect, admiration and also a hint of "man, this guy..." disapproval :D
This is truely wonderful. Once covid is over, we'll need a convention for all these wonderful craftsmen and historic TH-camrs, so we get a Megacollab
I love you two collaborating! And you can see what a monster of a man jörg is. This man could compete with a lot of strongman easily
I love joerg but your camera and mike quality is so much better than his 😂
Watching Tod and Jorg I have learned so so so very much.
Tod: Look at this cool slide loading crossbow I made
Jorg: Hold my beer... and its features
Just watched Joerg's version of this, now watching Tod's (no favouritism, it's the order TH-cam served them up!) Fantastic video both times!
Collaborating at a social distance.
Sad fact at the mo
Two talented, accomplished people enjoying each other's company. You love to see it. 😊
Cant wait to see what those two will come up to. "This is what we came up with, let us show its features."
Tod makes beautiful pieces of art which are interesting and pleasant to watch. Jörg has the strong tendency to make mean looking killing devices with "double up the rubber".
What a joy to see these 2 weapon giants together. Interesting to see Tod handling Joerg's weapon much better than vice versa. Could mean Tod has the better instant understanding of unknown weapons, based on his superior craftsmanship. Could also mean Joerg has built the much better weapon that works for anyone, based on his superior engineering.
These two gentlemen look like alternate universe versions of each other trying to make a machine to rescue their common ancestor back in the 14th century
The dual bow design helps with the archer's paradox, whereas the wooden one has the string pulling off them line of fire. I would think Jeorgs would have less wear on the string.
What a combination that would be: Tod and Jorg. We can't wait to see that some day.
A great combined project would be a version of the ‘assassin’s bow’ that was much higher power and more lethal.
It's awesome to see how much both these guys respect the others domain. Many differences, yet they both appreciate and embrace it. I bet they hugged and shook hands off camera but didn't do so in the clip due to Covid and not wanting to set a bad example. Good move! Great guys, great channels.
Love how the casual British sarcasm goes over Jeorgs head sometimes
Thank you both for showing us these fantastic weapons with amazing and explosive features !
Super cool and creative. Finally, a use for my belly. A collaboration would be great.
I'd like to see you guys tackle a torsion weapon. It's one of those energy storage systems that completely died out between your eras, so a modern revival take on it would be neat.
The two luminaries of humanly powered ballistic weapons worldwide. To see them together in the first of hopefully more coops is simply great.
Joerg and Tod... You are both incredible! Thank you..
Two of my absolute favorite weapon makers showing off the goods, awesome video.
I've got an idea for you - as we all know we've recently been plagued by dragons, and as we also know they tend to have a fairly thick hide and can fly, so naturally, the only logical conclusion, as we've seen in various documentaries on the subject, like The Hobbit, dragon-slaying is most effective when employing the cunning use of a heavy-caliber stationary weapon. Therefore I propose you build a magazine-fed, rapid-fire ballista. Preferably one that can traverse 360° and elevate 90°. Because modern dragons are tougher than the ones our forefathers battled back in the fantasy days, I'd say it should have a removable magazine/drum to ensure a high volume of fire, and of course, it should have an anti-aircraft "spider sight", this is important because of all sights used on weapons this size, the spider sight is by far the coolest looking one. And I loved your video, two of my favorite TH-camrs in the same video, what a treat, and stay safe.:-)
I think "mad genius" would be a fair description of Joerg.
It's so nice seeing Tod holding back the fanboying smirk
and Joerg feeling wholesome
That's the best version of "If you show me yours, I'll show you mine." I've seen! 😆