Gordon Ryan is the greatest submission grappler of all time | John Danaher and Lex Fridman
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มิ.ย. 2024
- Lex Fridman Podcast full episode: • John Danaher: The Path...
Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
- Onnit: lexfridman.com/onnit
- SimpliSafe: simplisafe.com/lex and use code LEX to get a free security camera
- Indeed: indeed.com/lex to get $75 credit
- Linode: linode.com/lex to get $100 free credit
GUEST BIO:
John Danaher is a coach, scholar, and educator of jiu jitsu, submission grappling, judo, MMA, and the martial arts.
PODCAST INFO:
Podcast website: lexfridman.com/podcast
Apple Podcasts: apple.co/2lwqZIr
Spotify: spoti.fi/2nEwCF8
RSS: lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/
Full episodes playlist: • Lex Fridman Podcast
Clips playlist: • Lex Fridman Podcast Clips
SOCIAL:
- Twitter: / lexfridman
- LinkedIn: / lexfridman
- Facebook: / lexfridman
- Instagram: / lexfridman
- Medium: / lexfridman
- Reddit: / lexfridman
- Support on Patreon: / lexfridman - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
I like to think John is secretly master mind behind Gordon’s online trash talk. “Gordon Ryan post... Gordon Ryan today we will systematically attack Dillon Danis...”
🤣🤣
4:10, a fighter scared out of their mind before a fight: GSP. Arguably the GOAT. Still got scared before each fight but overcame his fears and went on to succeed.
Mike Tyson said he was so scared before his fights he used to literally have to vomit in the locker room. But once he stepped into the ring, his mind just switched, and we all know how that looked like.
Yes, but GSP’s biggest fear was failing/being embarrassed - he said once the fight started he was fine/in his element.
@@angelsjoker8190 Yeah early on in the amateurs. Not in the pro's, where he would punch holes through walls in the locker room before he got to the ring.
I'm pretty sure John is part human.
hahahahaha 🤣
They really upped their game with humanoid robots
This guy, and Gordon Ryan too actually, are absolutely fascinating individuals. Thanks for a great video.
Gordon is about as fascinating as a lump of coal. He’s a terrific athlete, he’s a deeply fucked person
@@politicorey8817 elaborate, plz
@@politicorey8817 yeah elaborate a bit pls
Boxer Andy Lee, who trained under the great Emanuel Steward, says his mantra is to take the little things very seriously and matters of great importance lightly.
The most shocking thing about this interview is no rash guard.
thats his new podcast rash guard
Hilarious
Not even going to lie... thought that was a rashguard... lol
Just like a loose fitting one
@@codyferrell1896 rofl same here.
Though to be fair, he’s probably only wedding this because “it’s the closest thing to a rash guard that isn’t a rash guard”
This is the most bagy item of clothing Danaher has ever worn, I'm glad there was a camera to document such an event.
I am starting to believe.... that Danaher is a rogue agent from an ancient rendition of The Matrix.
2:00 Danaher legit sounds like a roboter here.
🤣🤣🤣
Specially when he says "technology"
i can just listen to him all day. guy never misses a beat.
Yes sir
I can't wait for the coming generations of grappling, there will be many individuals that are levels better than Ryan. just based on the popularity of grappling/mma rising, we'll be privileged to witness superior athletes choosing combat sports over traditional sports.
This is amazing interview.
Lex Fridman talking with John Danaher is going in my Relaxation playlist
Great point about the mental aspect. Plus, you don't get to choose who you are and how you perform the best. You just have to embrace it.
"because he knows his training partners are typically better than the people he's actually going out to compete against"
SHEESH
Let’s go!! New Zealand baby !
no rash guard!? I don't believe this is really Dr. Danaher.
Scrolled through the comments just for this
Ryan is the king, nothing to argue about there, Roger in the gi ...and he's a beast w out it too. Gordon is the best ever
@Kevin C Dillon Danis has a record of 18-16 in submission grappling. That’s not even top 25, even against the tough competition he’s faced, because the top guys all have
@Kevin C Then you don't know anything about Jiu Jitsu. Everyone that knows anything about rolling on the mat knows Gordon is an anomaly. He is the most dominant force in the sport to ever exist and isn't even 30 years old.
@@margaretpritchet he is only 25, scary
He’s a fucking juice head
@@blazer33x I was thinking that too. Dude looks juiced. Roger Gracie looks natural to me.
I swear John Danaher is the only person that can make himself more likeable through saying "I am also a notoriusly cold and unemotional person" haha
(0:30)
Welcome to Thoughts For Your Thoughts. I'm Derry Murbles, filling in for David Parker who took off for 8 months to study the migration patterns of our nation's squirrels. He has not been heard from since.
John actually strikes me as quite a warm guy
He definitely looks like he’s a hugger
Well look who he’s sitting next to
If you live in the arctic
He said Domination like a Dominatrix
Do you have any clips of sports psychology?
Where is his rash guard?
One of his fancy ones 😂
Underneath
I absolutely believe him when he says it. Gordon Ryan is a beast absolutely the best in the world probably the best all time grappling and bjj
I MISS THESE TYPE OF MASTER IN MY LIFE...
Really wanted to see him against aoiki
Marcelo is up there as well
Don't know how good he is in BJJ but he cured my insomnia
Respect please
@@jeffsstt total respect. Have not slept this easily and this well in years. Had the whole interview play in the background. My fitbit showed 90% deep sleep.
Isn’t that also just the current state of bjj though? I used to compete in pro mma and have my bjj blackbelt and love rolling, but I can’t sit and watch bjj. I’ve tried to get into watching it. It reminds me of baseball how I loved playing it as a kid, but can’t sit and watch it. I used to enjoy watching bjj when marcelo garcia was competing. Maybe it was more takedown/top game oriented.. idk
Literally fell asleep to this podcast at 10p.m. last night
@@paulbarclay4114modern mma exists because of bjj 🤣 learn your history! Also, it's needless to say you have never competed and are clueless as how you have standing, clinch, and ground training in mma and how boxing kickboxing, judo wrestling and judo, and duuh duh duuuuuuh bjj for ground are taught in ALL mma gyms
I think Danaher is getting the situation wrong, there's no explanation needed at this point. Do we need more proof than we have already seen about Gordon Ryan? He's definitely the best
This is like the npr of Ju Jitsu
Ryan didn’t half as shredded as this thumb nail while on Rogan last week.
Let's see Khabib vs. Gordon in a grappling match
Gordon would submit Khabib.
@@rnkmode1876 I think it depends what rules they were playing by. It would be interesting for sure. I lean towards Khabib by decision though.
Gordon would win quickly
In mma Kabib in adcc Gordon
Anyone saying khabib would beat Gordon in MMA is a goof. Of course he would, only one of them is an MMA fighter. In submission only, Gordon wins 90 of 100 matches minimum.
Shinya Aoki is the uncrowned 🐐
Who is Hodger?
is that John's date rash shirt he's wearing for you Lex?
Lol he should interview and ask Dillon Danis the same question
Baki Hanma will be in contact with you in regards to this title.
Thats not a rash guard, is it?
Why is John not in a rashguard
It's under his sweatshirt
I would love to develop the level of critical articulation as that of Danaher
Does John train with any mma with anyone? And like how would that work does he train jujustu part of the day wiht his students then teaches them mma or what?
He trained GSP a bit leading up to his fight with Jake Shields
@@Kaizsu_ A bit?! He has been training GSP WAY before he even won the belt lol.. he is also FARAS coach...who is GSPs MMA coach at Tristar lol
He’s the greatest in the present moment but just like how times have shown BJJ players get better each generation
True of every sport
Yah but noones even close right now
What about Rickson….? 🤔
Somehow he reminds me of Ron Swanson
1) Roger, 2) Gordo, 3) Rafa, 4) Marcello, 5) Buchecha, 6) Cobrina, 7) Pena, 8) Cyborg
I say Gordon #1 no gi better in the leg attack game than Roger. Just that alone sets him apart from Roger.
No gi gordon and I used to hate on him. Very sad they moved to p.r since I live in nyc
What about Rickson historically
Exactly, for his time he was way ahead and in self defense he would destroy them all
@@yusufbassa8034 yes..a true beast
So this is what Dr. Evil is doing these days
Rickson?
Definitely the Greatest of his time and even beyond.
Let him go to mma then John!
People make fun of Jon, but he's probably the most intelligent and incisive explicator of BJJ in the English language.
Gordon vs Khabib ... who you got?
We would love to see him competing him against Khabib in a fenced cage like MMA
What happened to danahers voice? Sounds like a rough diplophonia happening.
Felipe Pena?
Wonder how Roger would do against Gordon in nogi. Roger seems to specialize in gi more.
Roger has won many no gi tournaments- in their prime Roger wins Gi or No gi, but Gordon would have the best chance of beating Roger
@@rxnupe Do you think he could win via submission? Most guys just beat gordon on points. They don't engage. But Roger goes for the kill and that might open him up to leg locks. I wish we could see that match up, traditional jiu jitsu vs modern progressive jiu jitsu.
@@da1stlangzai Yes I see Roger tapping Gordon Ryan. Keep in mind they say Roger has not been tapped since he was a Blue Belt and that's a great accomplishment. Ryan lost once by tap to Pena who is good, but no where close to Roger's level.
@@rxnupe Yea that's a good point. Pena beat him the 2nd time too pretty convincingly. But how come his style of Jiu jitsu doesn't seem effective in MMA. Marcelo and Galvao both dabbled in MMA but their jiu jitsu didn't seem that effective. Maia who's less accomplished than all 3 of the guys i mentioned runs through guys if he can get them down.
@@da1stlangzai I think it's because everyone trains in BJJ to some extent. You have to have some type of stand up game as a striker even if your BJJ is top notch.
for example, Kron Gracie has top notch BBJ, but lost to Cub Swanson who is a far better striker.
Gordon
Rodger
Tonon
Danaher is a hybrid cross between the Dalai Lama and Jeffery Dahmer wearing a rash vest.
Marcelo Garcia for me, but Gordon is right up there for sure.
You mean you prefer Garcia? In reality Gordon has surpassed him in skills.
@@brendon2462 no, I believe Garcia is better.
@@joaopedrocavalcante3184 But he's not in reality. Why? because he doesn't posses the level of leg attack game ryan does. Garcia is probably my favourite. But Ryan is definitely more well rounded. He's putting it all together upper and lower body attacks. He's only getting better abd better.
@@brendon2462 @kendra campbell two different generations and different weight classes, and not taking anything from ryan, i just believe marcelo was more skilled than ryan, had a more fluid game, thats why he is the goat for me, but if we are talking well rounded we can put Roger at the top.
]
😊😊😊
@@joaopedrocavalcante3184 Ok fair enough, i just don't understand how Garcia is considered better in your view when he lacked leg lock game? Garcia was very good at upper body. But not the other 50% the leg lock game. Why ignore 50% of the human body. I think Lister said that. Gordon is definitely more well rounded than Garcia. He can do everything really well.
Did Gordon Ryan sign with the UFC?!?!?!?!?
If they fought who wins? Gordon vs Roger
Roger
Gordon. Younger, stronger, more well rounded.
@@Kinosis79 Lol Buchecha was stronger and Younger than Roger and look what happened. Also, well rounded???? Roger is a 4th degree Black Belt and Gordon is 1st degree Black belt so please explain. Are you say gordon knows more about BJJ than Roger? Roger has not been tapped since he was a Blue Belt.
Rickson by armbar
Rickson is Gordon and John combined. He developed moves and concepts where Gordon is just learning from John
Gordon will lol give him time rickson had 20 years of training at Gordon’s age
100% to innovate takes even more greatness than to copy
Marcelo is the goat. Gordon is the goat of taking steroids and stomach problems. Also very good at grappling.
You’re an idiot my friend
Roger gracie
How about Khabib?
They are talking about pure submission grapplers not MMA grapplers, Khabib is probably the greatest MMA grappler of all time.
I would have liked to have seen him against prime Maia or Marcelo, would've been awesome. (yes I realize the weight difference)
... or Hickson Gracie
... or Rigan Machado
... or Roger Gracie
Obviously Gordon hasn’t met me yet. I will teach him a few tricks. I see his weaknesses and would sub him in five minutes
I subbed ur wife in 5 mins
what makes Gordon or Roger so superior is what makes Magnus Carlson superior.....they see steps/moves ahead of their competitors. it is without a doubt an advantage. another analogy is a stockbroker who has insider information on a stock. Gordon/Roger/Magnus/Rickson have insider information on their opponents.
How to get insider information??? not more or hard training, BUT more specific/thoughtful/purposeful training, when training use your brain not brawn
He needs to work harder on his abs😂
Better than Marcelo???
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
This dude speaks like a book.
Pretty sure some fella from Dagestan might have something to say about that.
And he would be wrong.
I thought John said Roger Gracie was the greatest.
He said Roger was the best in jiu jitsu overall but that Gordon Ryan was the best in the submission grappling subset. (He said jj has four subsets--gi, no gi/submission grappling, MMA, and self-defense)
Marcelo garcia is the GOAT
Yeah, what happened to him? Did Ryan just take over and Garcia grew old?
Definitely one of them, Roger and Marcelo are 2 of my top & Rickson of course.
Gordon is extremely unathletic, Marcelo is better, Roger is better, Raf Mendes is better, Ciao Terra is better...this may be Gordon’s time for sure but labeling him GOAT is inaccurate unless GOAT is to mean “Greats Of All Time”
He is the greatest of all time in a sport that wasn't a thing 30 years ago. And still the talent pool is relativly small compare to other grappling sports.
The old school guys submitted people at no weight class, no time limit, no holds fight tournaments. Ju-jutsu used to be a grappling heavy fighting style.
Bjj used to be self defense and vale tudo based.
I respect the sport, i respect the athletes, but we shouldn't call great fighters less skilled grapplers.
Could Gordon Ryan stand hours with Kimura or Sakuraba in a vale tudo fight? Will Gordon Ryan be able toss around youngster with perfectly executed throws when he will be a feeble old man?
Is he the GOAT submission grappler or only if the rules highlights his grappling?
He did kind of contradict himself though by saying Gordon was even better in the gym. Then he said basically the opposite and how good he was when the pressure is on 🤔 for the record im not talking shit I managed to cave when the stakes her highest lol
In Brazil there were many guys like Gordon Ryan in the last 20 years, most of them are unknown nowadays.... he`s a product of Flograpling nothing else... if he were the best, he should go to worlds in GI....
gordon ryan and Marcello Garcia
Khabibs mentality is the greatest for combat sports
The matrix !
Marcelo Garcia
unpopular opinion Craig jones is a better grappler... gordon clearly cheats and takes steriods. and in his match with craig jones jones had an armbar right at the end but ran out of time. then gordon won when he was gifted Craig's back
Gordon lifts weights 4 times a week doing bodybuilding workouts.....you can search it up
Rickson Gracie begs to differ
Rickson would destroy them.
LMAO. Felipe Pena submitted his ass in DOMINANT fashion not 1 but 2 times (no -gi) all while also (Felipe) training in Gi most of the time.
True but that’s when Gordon was 20-21 years old when Felipe Pena beat him. Different animal now, I guarantee!!
Gordon Ryan was submitted once by pena, not twice.
@@SaNsToRmS24 your right . Felipe Finished him the first time, shut him out 6-0 the second time.
@@SaNsToRmS24 peña is only 4 years older and trust me he is also a different animal now.
@@alexberdugo5169 Only 4?? That four years make a big difference. Imagine an 18 years old beating on an 14 years old. big difference there, right?
This thread is funny. People truly love to hate on Gordon simply because he’s a troll. These emotional responses are exactly what hes talking about
I wouldn't say Gordon is the greatest grappler or submission grappler of all-time.. Very good NO-GI but what about the GI..
HRT lol
You can't submit an athlete you can't get the upper hand against on the feet so long as that athlete is content not to go to the mat
John Danaher fails those "are you a robot" online tests.
The greatest grappler is wong FEI hung.
Roger, Marcelo, Bruno Malfacine, Rafa Mendes, Buchecha, Braulio, Galvao, Kron, Xande, Pena (who subbed Gordon and beat him 6-0, both nogi) ... how soon we forget. Fighting nogi only is a tactful way to avoid fighting the best guys.
Yea true p4p Marcelo has to be on the mount Rushmore
@@EmperorNerox Must greco roman wrestlers also do freestyle? Do Senegalese wrestlers also needs to compete in Mongolian wrestling? Dumbest argument against Gordon being the best nogi-grappler of all time.
@@aznravenflame no gi grappling..submission wrestling...Gordon is the best.
@@EmperorNerox You know and and everyone knows it. But they like to undermine people who are literally at the top of the world in their field.
@@aznravenflame haters gunna hate, it's cuz they don't like him, but to try to deny his talent is a joke
i'll have a hard time not falling asleep during this podcast
Rickson is the goat
And now he is retired
Dillon Danis whoops both these men low diff
Gordon wrote on Instagram he even thinks Marcello Garcia is the GOAT
No he didn't? He thinks Roger is the greatest BJJ athlete of all time. He says Marcelo is up there though.
@@tle398 yes he did check the comments section of his last post, don’t just type “no he didn’t “
@@Norfolkjiujitsu Yup checked. He didn't. Nice
@@Norfolkjiujitsu You are literally a neckbeard. Wanna know how I know he doesn't think Marcelo isn't the GOAT? Because he blatantly says it every time one of you virgins brings him up in the same conversation as Gordon and Roger
@@tle398 instagram.com/p/COjybySpAx7/ there’s ya proof can argue with stupid ... can’t argue with proof
Sorry but I just have a hard time believing that Gordon or Roger is better than Rickson
You take prime Rickson from the 80s and 90s and put him against Gordon, he won't even know how to stop Gordon's leglocks
@@ThePatcam you sure about that? Rickson has experience with leglocks. Gordon wouldn't be able to handle Ricksons invisible strength.
@@ThePatcam you really believe that Rickson taps to a leglock?