Hi Neil, I'm a subscriber to your channel and appreciate your videos as your playing is articulate and clear. I often direct my group to your videos for reference of how things 'ought to be played' when I find myself unable to break poor habits or not quite articulate things exactly as they are written (often with 1/32 notes in 2/4 marches). I am moving right now to begin instructing my group with our first Jig, and I've chosen this tune to start with. There are a number of versions of this tune, but as I have done in the past, I stick to the Scots Guards version. However, my version of the tune from my copy of the book seems to be written slightly different than the way you're playing it, and I wanted to know what your version states. I hear in your playing, the first group of triplets being played as a dotted 1/8, a cut 1/8 and a straight 1/8 making up the first beat of most measures. My version in the Scots Guards book is written the other way around though; straight 1/8, cut 1/8 and dotted 1/8. The other versions of the tune that I've seen are written without any dots or cuts in the tune and it doesn't have nearly the same charm. Can you talk to the point of rhythm in this jig? Thank you.
Hi there. My edition of the book is pretty old, and has a few mistakes. One of the usual is for instance in Jigs, the dots/cuts don't always make sense, at least to our modern ears.I was actually taught this tune dotted and cut, ie with long notes rather than all even as is more common these days. In both book one and two you see a degree of confusion over this, at least in some versions. I can't remember the exact state of the tune in this edition, but where it doesnt add up, or is inconsistent, I tend to go for the nearest version to what is written..... that still makes sense. If that makes sense... You're right about the 32nd notes in 2/4 marches for example, we'd hardly ever play them at that length, so we approximate to what sounds best. You really have a choice of 2, possibly 3 styles here. You could round the whole lot off and play it even, play it this way, or stick to the book. The problem is with my book, it runs through 3 different styles in the one tune... so I've pleased myself to a certain extent, based on experience, and went for consistency. Hope this helps..
@@NeilClark-FalkirkPiping yeah, 100% I think my plan is to do a lesson from the McGillivary book in preparation, and then begin teaching this tune rounded. Once I'm confident the groups got the basic melody down, I'll introduce dots and cuts, only because this is our first jig. I guess the only confusion I really have about my version of the tune which is straight followed by cut then dot, is that its much more difficult and less common to put the dot last instead of first. I wonder how come this book is written that way.
Thanks, you are my first go to video sure whenI learn a new tune.
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Hi Neil,
I'm a subscriber to your channel and appreciate your videos as your playing is articulate and clear. I often direct my group to your videos for reference of how things 'ought to be played' when I find myself unable to break poor habits or not quite articulate things exactly as they are written (often with 1/32 notes in 2/4 marches).
I am moving right now to begin instructing my group with our first Jig, and I've chosen this tune to start with. There are a number of versions of this tune, but as I have done in the past, I stick to the Scots Guards version. However, my version of the tune from my copy of the book seems to be written slightly different than the way you're playing it, and I wanted to know what your version states.
I hear in your playing, the first group of triplets being played as a dotted 1/8, a cut 1/8 and a straight 1/8 making up the first beat of most measures.
My version in the Scots Guards book is written the other way around though; straight 1/8, cut 1/8 and dotted 1/8.
The other versions of the tune that I've seen are written without any dots or cuts in the tune and it doesn't have nearly the same charm.
Can you talk to the point of rhythm in this jig?
Thank you.
Hi there. My edition of the book is pretty old, and has a few mistakes. One of the usual is for instance in Jigs, the dots/cuts don't always make sense, at least to our modern ears.I was actually taught this tune dotted and cut, ie with long notes rather than all even as is more common these days. In both book one and two you see a degree of confusion over this, at least in some versions. I can't remember the exact state of the tune in this edition, but where it doesnt add up, or is inconsistent, I tend to go for the nearest version to what is written..... that still makes sense. If that makes sense... You're right about the 32nd notes in 2/4 marches for example, we'd hardly ever play them at that length, so we approximate to what sounds best. You really have a choice of 2, possibly 3 styles here. You could round the whole lot off and play it even, play it this way, or stick to the book. The problem is with my book, it runs through 3 different styles in the one tune... so I've pleased myself to a certain extent, based on experience, and went for consistency. Hope this helps..
@@NeilClark-FalkirkPiping yeah, 100% I think my plan is to do a lesson from the McGillivary book in preparation, and then begin teaching this tune rounded. Once I'm confident the groups got the basic melody down, I'll introduce dots and cuts, only because this is our first jig.
I guess the only confusion I really have about my version of the tune which is straight followed by cut then dot, is that its much more difficult and less common to put the dot last instead of first. I wonder how come this book is written that way.
Where can I find the sheet music for this tune with settings in this video?
In Scots Guards Book 1
Oh my God. These strikes on pipe are so complicated. I can play if I drink whiskey.
Whiskey will give you a terrible American accent, best to stick to Whisky ;-)
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