$700 - I Bought the Most Expensive Backpack - Osprey UNLTD AntiGravity 64L
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 เม.ย. 2022
- I'm shocked that this backpack cost $700!
This is the first look at the Osprey UNLTD AntiGravity 64L!
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The $750 Osprey UNLTD AntiGravity Backpack - First Look
What it is : For the last 2 years, Osprey has been working on what is known as the UNLTD project which is a line of backpacks that harness every single advancement, innovation and technology;
These packs were designed with a focus on design and performance rather than price.
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Versions :
Male and Female
Sizes :
Small to Medium - 64L
Large to XLarge - 67L
Measurements : 31.89H X 16.14W X 15.35D IN.
Materials :
MAIN210D High Tenacity Nylon Ultra-High-Molecular-Weight Polyethylene Ripstop, PFC-free DWR
ACCENT210D High Tenacity Nylon Ultra-High-Molecular-Weight Polyethylene Ripstop, PFC-free DWR
BOTTOM500D bluesign® approved recycled High Tenacity Nylon, PFC-free DWR
YKK Zippers
3D Printed Carbon Fiber Lumbar Pad
7075 Aluminum frame
Weight : 5.5lbs
Price : $750
Impressions :
From what I understand, this pack is based upon the design of the Osprey Atmos AG backpack which is one of my favorite backpacks ever. It’s a top notch system it’s a very good platform to build upon.
With the UNLTD AntiGravity, it is impressive to behold; when you look at the quality of the materials, the very intriguing design, innovative features….it’s impressive….impressive from a design standpoint….
But….
Is it $750 impressive; I wouldn’t go that far. Not from a monetary perspective at least not yet. When the testing begins with this pack, that may entirely change….I will talk about this more in a second.
My wife said it best when this pack arrived; it looks like a regular backpack and it cost $750 and that is true. From a distance, it doesn’t look to be any different from the majority of backpacks that are out on the market.
Standout Features : The 3D printed lumbar support is indeed different and the AutoLift harness system is indeed interesting.
Weight : This pack is heavy at 5.5lbs
Questions and Going Forward -
My Ultimate Question is this : Does the performance of this backpack justify the high price tag?
The Atmos AG backpack from Osprey is already incredibly durable, very comfortable and can be found for a good price, around $270 at the time of filming…..
How does the UNLTD backpack build upon that and improve upon it…..
In other words, how does it justify the price increase?
Considering that the OG Atmos AG is already comfortable enough, it is strong enough…what does this pack do differently or substantially better?
Question : Is this pack going to be substantially better or is it going to be more of a luxury?
Similar to driving a luxury vehicle sort thing?
That is what we are going to find out with my upcoming adventures and testing. My plan is to take this pack across the country to test it out in a wide range of environments to see just how well it performs and I will share with you, my completely agenda thoughts on this backpack.
My goal here with TOGR is to provide information and that’s it. I don’t push products, I don’t sell products, I don’t do commissions….I bought this backpack so I can review it honestly….so you can make an educated decision with your money.
The other UNLTD Backpack :
The other pack in the UNLTD lineup is the AirScape and it was designed to be a hauler; in other words, it was designed to carry more weight than the AntiGravity where it was designed with a priority on comfort and ventilation.
The price of that pack is $750 as well.
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For 700$, the Backpack has to travel on his own behind me.
My exact thoughts lol
It's in fact more expensive than a sherpa. 😅
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I love Osprey products, but there is no way I'm spending $700 on a backpack.
Unless it comes with a sherpa to carry it for me.
Don’t then 🤷♂️
The weekend warriors who use their ultralight tents twice a year will be eating this thing up. Smart of Osprey to realize how many people mindlessly spend money now imo
@@Ro7ard how do you know a lot of people buy UL tents they only use twice a year?
amen sister !!!
that's just crazy & not wieght losses!!!!!!
I'm with you 👍🏽👍🏽
They still have the annoying connector for the chest strap. I've had it come off the rail several times and then it's a lot of work to get it back there. At $700 I would expect it to be ultralight and completely waterproof. And bearproof. Maybe it could feature a solar panel + usb. Throw in an air compressor for inflating and deflating sleeping pads. Maybe it could turn into a chair.
The things already 5.5 lbs, don’t give them any ideas.
AWESOME reply.
I hate that thing.
bearproof...really? gtfo
Love a ultralight, bear proof, mouse proof, waterproof bag. Happily pay $1100 for that over the zpacks.
My Gregory pack cost half that. The original was purchased maybe 12 years and I wore it out. Over stuffed, over loaded, hauled up and down...I sent it in thinking they would repair it...THEY REPLACED IT. For free. The new model is an extreme upgrade, easily as good as this pack with many of the same features. The customer service was gold, the pack is amazing. Half the price or so of this. I had an Osprey pack, it was nice, but $700 is nuts. Just plain nuts. As was mentioned by someone else if this came with a NO questions asked LIFETIME warranty, it might be worth it. But I bet it doesn't. At my age I suspect my Gregory pack is the last one I'll own. Enjoy yours!
Service depends on whether you're in the US or Europe but Osprey's warranty pretty much identical.
Osprey: It took us 2 years to develop this...
Also Osprey: It will cost you $700
China: Hold my beer....
China 4 days later: $39.95
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Make my day 😂😂😂
At Walmart
@@TheRealPontificator aliexpress no doubt haha
This is the winning comment
Just took my UNLTD backpacking this week. I was unimpressed with it out of the box, but on the trail, Oh MG! Forty-five pounds became nothing. I am highly impressed with the comfort and ease of access to my stowed gear. Taking it to Honstrandir next month. Can't wait.
this is interesting. I get ready for PCT 2024. One point of view is weight distribution, however another side - for me for thru-hike same importancy - is versatility and ease of access to everything. I consider bag as my home for six months. Weight of the bag is not that big concern if it helps me to feel good.I remember for pilgrimage to Santiago, how difficult is even to take bag out, not speaking about digging into it when you are tired. You are even ready to quit drinking if it is too difficult to get your bottle.
The features look nice. In order to justify the price tag, I would want all of that in a pack that weighs 2 to 2.5 lbs, max. Possibly with a smaller 45-55 liter capacity.
I went with Ula ultralight from 100% USA made, in Utah- I am a gear head and guide, so happy to support a company that has a warehouse of workers and makes it all... great value, great style- Circuit is what I got!
And a solar panel water heater shower * :p
I have had also a very similar concept rucksack Deuter Vario (got it about 10 years ago) which weighs unfortunately 2 Kg and the material is way less durable, so I can't imagine shrinking it to 1 Kg... maybe some helium inside (lol).
and water proof
I appreciate a company deciding to go full "John Hammond" and sparing no expense because a lot can be learned from it even if it is just a one-off exercise. However, there is no way I'd spend that much to own one of them. I said before: I'd rather buy a $160-200 backpack and spend the rest of the money on knitting a friend out so that they could join the fun.
lol John Hammond? From Jurassic Park? I haven't heard that before. lol
Great point btw.
- Luke
Hit the nail on the head. Osprey make great packs. That’s not really news. The features they’ve developed and materials used all look great. Does this justify the cost? Nope. Is it significantly better than their current (MUCH) cheaper stable of packs. Nope. Is there really a point to it. Nope.
Still, really informative and entertaining review as always Luke. It was nice to have a look anyway.
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There is a point.Some people want something they perceive as being special - and good luck to them.
A single Bugatti Chiron tyre costs about £9,000 !
@@TheOutdoorGearReview Yep, that's the reference. Another way to look at this is that if Osprey made these packs as an R&D exercise to see just how good a pack they could make without selling them, there would be a small number of people begging them to make a few to sell. They're not for everyone, and there is no way Osprey expects them to be either. In making these, they probably did learn some things that they'll be able to use on their other packs.
I agree to your opinion.
And I agree to the "full John Hammond" expression.
I'm just not sure where this price-point is coming from. I get the carbon fiber webbing.. but why isn't the frame also carbon fiber or titanium? Almost every single decent pack (costing hundreds less) has aluminum in the frame. Why the heavy nylon? Why not Dyneema or some other ultralight/completely waterproof material? Maybe strength? In that case they could have a Dyneema inner layer with maybe a lightweight polyester outer layer - and then just ditch the pack cover completely. I love how the pack opens from the top and from the bottom. That is pretty spiffy... but is it $700 spiffy? I feel at over 5 lbs they missed the mark on what most backpackers and SERIOUS hikers (the ones who are willing to spend $700 on gear) are looking for - water resistance / proof, weight, long-term comfort over everything and then stuff like the water access, mesh pockets, detachable hood, etc. as bonus features. Starting out with 5 lbs before adding any hiking gear is a bit much.... especially for $700. I guess I just don't get it. An entry-level hiker would never buy this. They might spend $700 on all their gear combined. Sure, over time they'll upgrade on things like sleeping pads, tents, sleeping bags, and even packs as they learn where spending extra money is worth it... but most experienced hikers just aren't going to dish out that much money to get a heavier pack that isn't waterproof and doesn't have any mind-blowing features they can't get in the Atmos or similar... Just doesn't make sense.
Regarding the zipper system: its standard for Deuter for years. My almost 10 year old 75l bagpack has it. Its nothing new at all.
About your conclusion: I absolutely agree. I mean my backpack got thrown around in dirt and other crap over the years. Even if this bag would have some unique features I would be worried to much that its getting damaged and that alone reduced the usability in my opinion.
I'm with you, my first thoughts were "why are the materials not high end?" There's just not 700 dollars worth of equipment on here so I'm not sure what the market is supposed to be for this pack...
Im working in a sports store. The representative from osprey told us that the reason for the high price is the low production rate from a few hundred pieces of this model, so its more or less an (marketing)experiment.
Luke I’m sorry but will NEVER EVER spend $700 on any backpack! Love all you do….Keep on keeping on!
@golli waffen It's not about having money for it, it's about is it worth it. For me the weight is a deal breaker. My Exos 48 together with my 2p tent weight as much as this pack.
@golli waffen Because expensive is always better?
I knew this bag will sell well, because it is simply the most expensive.
A single Bugatti Chiron tyre costs about £9,000
@golli waffen What with ya made up new account, ok Troll .
@Obese Sheboon Ratchet if I were rich ( I'm totally not at only 45k a year) I'd buy top end on every hobby I love
700 + dollars for any backpack in my view is that it had damn well even carry itself. I have a Frostfire 73 expedition pack that is well over 20yrs old that has many of those same features for many hundreds of dollars less, and that pack is still going strong.
I have one of those smaller Osprey for summer activities, light weight, for light weight gear. I love it, very versatile. I have a large Savotta for winter gear, heavy pack for heavy gear. With colder weather it is slightly less difficult to have some extra weight in the pack itself. I think I won't spend this amount of money on a lightweight pack, personally. However I think there are people who may want (to pay the price for) this for the longer mountain trips, it is an awesome pack of course.
Thanks for the introduction!
Wow that's insane! So that would probably be close to 900$+ Canadian! Quality hiking and camping gear is outrageously expensive in Ontario, Canada!
It'll probably be 1k + up here. I've seen the osprey aether sold for $500+tax.
You got that right I dropped $500 on my jaakari L pack but it has not let me down.
My price cap is 150 CAD.
It quite simply should be waterproof, I have two custom made ultralight waterproof packs that are supremely comfortable and both were less expensive, a lumbar bag, a flight cover 🤷♂️ I don’t get it, like you said it should be ultralight like a levity but with all the extra features, basically it’s a gimmick for people with more money than sense
I would say the pack would have to be part of a system. A tent that fits perfectly, a bear bag that is easily pulled out, bear spray quick access, a chair that quickly attaches to the side, hiking poles... But I still would not spend 700.
Great ideas! Are you listening Osprey?
Ooo, that's a good idea. Like, a "system" of items that are quality and fit in the pack.mesnt for it, which also has great features. You hit the nail on the head
This backpack is way too expensive for me! It must have gold implanted in it somewhere! Thank you Luke for checking on this backpack, I just don't see the point in paying that much when there are GREAT backpacks for a lot less! Hey Susie!🥰
That would make it to heavy. Platinum, diamonds better 😁
An interesting product for sure. But for that price I would expect at least two hip belt pockets and fabrics that don't require a separate rain cover.
Great bag. Great review again. These bags are just about the best I think. Thanks again for all you do and provide to this community. Always very professional and well presented. You provide a priceless service and honest reviews almost impossible to find these days. Well done Sir! Safe happy trails and adventures. As we say at Jemazzy, Live your Adventure….thanks for helping everyone do so….
Good first impressions. I’ve never bought an Osprey pack and at this price I wouldn’t even if they kept all the features and managed to reduce the weight by half. At that empty weight they’re in the range of several military packs which are significantly less to purchase and have more storage space.
I feel like the price is to fund the massive R&D that went into this pack so that its features can trickle down into the rest of the lineup over time, and end up benefiting from economies of scale
I'm thinking the same, feels like this was one of those 'what would you build if you could build anything!?' projects. I reckon they've designed a fantastic pack, with some neat ideas; the price will eventually come down, and like you say ideas and feedback will be applied to the rest of the Osprey family.
This is hard to say but to people who uses a backpack going outdoors might love it without thinking of the price but to me I would not purchase it not because of the price but it's a bit much for my own usage being in the Navy, I have used the ALICE and MOLLE packs and has served me well. Having the right equipment is always the answer. Thanks Luke for the info.
Thank you very much for doing the review! Looking forward for more information.
That pack looks amazing!
I am from Germany and a huge fan of american outdoor equipment.
I especialy like my MysteryRanch Terraframe.
It is the most thought through pack i have ever seen. I did not find any flaws....
The load panel and the bag only option are truely amazing.
I also like the hyperlite mountain gear packs.
I enjoy your channel and videos a lot.
Thanks:)
To everyone, thanks to your support and enjoying of this product. I'm a member that designs this pack, I totally understand many comments on the price and I want to add some details of what you will get:
The price is high because of the following:
1. New advanced technology parts: the lumbar is developed with Carbon company, which has the most advanced 3d print technology DLS. This technology can do many things that none others can do so far. it means that it adds so much benefits to the users: patterned cushioned areas, different hard cushioning layers ( outer layer is softer than the inner layer so it's comfortable whether you have heavy or light load) you can get this from foam, sponge. ... as usual, the down side of it is the time to make it is very long, the machine is very expensive. You can find this in the Specialized bike seat, Adidas shoes and many other...
2. The print on the mesh is silicon. Print silicone on mesh is very hard and labor, time consuming, but this make your pack part of your body.
3. The frame is Aluminum 7075 series, there're not many company can do the extrusion as well as bending it. How much values of this material you can find in the bike industries! strength, flexibility and light weight.
4. The fabric is a composure of high molecular yard which is very strong.
Cool info
What people are missing with this bag is, it's not really a bag they're pushing intending to sell alot of them....what they are is a backpack equivalent of a concept car, its what can they do if limitations are removed, the only difference to a concept car is they are offering it for sale for anyone who really wants to own a concept backpack.
People will not be complaining when you start getting features drip down onto other bag ranges at reasonable prices.
This bag offers nothing new or inovative. It's not a "concept" bag. It's a frog with lipstick on it. What does this bag do or offer that a $200.00 bag doesn't?
@@briansimpson8116 name a bag with the 3d printed carbon fibre lumbar support, or the new harness system?
@@TheSotai I would if he'd said the lumbar support and "new" harness system were at all impressive or better than any pack he ever used. But he didn't. So those features were unremarkable to him. And he's been using products for decades.
@@briansimpson8116 he was impressed with the harness system, and the 3d printing.
The only thing he wasn't impressed by was the weight and price tag. But seeing as it was designed for comfort not weight we can possibly over look the weight issue. We won't have a real review from him for awhile as he intends to use it before doing so.
@@TheSotai I don't agree. I like the sticky stuff idea so the bag have a less tendency to slide or move. But at the same time, it would seem as if there are features on this bag, that counteracts this, such as being thick and heavy.
And I don't like the placement of the waterbag. Could puncture, get really dirty and it seems a lot of hazzle to get it in and out.
I also find it plain ugly, that is of course taste. It's screaming color and says "come and steal from me, I am a city slicker and walking in the jungle".
Sometimes features are not so smart after all. Look at curvy tv sets. No one sell that anymore. It came and it went. We'll see. It may prove long term positive.
3d printing can either be fragile or strong. Carbon is not always strong in all directions. For example my own carbon MTB brake discs that splinter if touched sideways.
Aluminium 7050T6 frame sticks is okay but not ultimate. And we all know extruded aluminium bicycle frames that bent or dented and became soft over time. And sun degrades
carbon parts. And good luck trying to take out a tent in heavy rain through that top front letter box opening. Or doing the same with the whole pack open in heavy rain.
To me, it looks like a computer geeks weekend bag. It's like other outdoor brands mixing with some self proclaimed "upmarket" clothing brands. Doesn't make any difference except the manager who shovels money in to his or her own account in bonuses.
It's not very innovative and way overpriced. I see it as a move towards stealing more money, by trying to call this an "upmarket" piece of kit. It's not. Waste of money.
Kind regards.
Looks like they took a duffle bag, turned it on end and added a frame. Innovation is not throwing a Fanny pack on top and adding some Lycra pockets. For 700 bucks it could have detachable pockets that convert to gaiters, a mini inertia electricity generator for batteries, color matching internal bags, or any number of truly innovative design aspects. This is a backpack.
I really appreciate you purchasing this and reviewing it. Based off your knowledge and experience I believe you will give this the real world tests and reviews that us the consumers really deserve. Looking forward to your critique on this. I however would not ever purchase this, unless I win the lottery. But again thank you for doing this and your honest opinion with these products.
There are some great features built into this pack. Good on Osprey for having the balls to even produce this pack. Im not sure how many they will sell to individuals, at five and a half pounds it is on the heavy side. I can see rescue groups or institutions like Nolls having these for their instructors. Otherwise for the price I could buy so many other things that i actually need like a down payment on a car or replace parts on my house.
Plenty of people can easily afford it though.
@@redpillnibbler4423 Really? , The world skint.
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Are where I live - millionaires! - £700.= pocket change,honest.
@@redpillnibbler4423 What ever .
Or a tent
With inflation over 8% and gas prices over the top, Osprey releases a backpack for $700...someone in marketing has completely lost it. Sorry you threw your money away by purchasing a gimmick that will never sell to real backpackers. I love your reviews Luke. Keep up the good work.
While I agree with most of what you said... the CF lumbar support is hopefully something that we will see in some more reasonably priced packs. And to be honest, I'm quite curious how it compares to something like Deuters Air Mesh.
inflation goes up and down so if they price based on that alone they can sell now for cheap and charge more for it later. lol thats just stupid
@@coryb6722 Long-term, inflation does not go down. The down points are always temporary before rising higher than ever before (without government intervention, beyond the classic "print more"). Remember in the 90's when candy was 50 cents to 75 cents? Then 1 dollar, now 1.5-2 for all candies for the past 5-6 years. I don't even eat candy but just something I noticed.
Always enjoy your vids. And thx for the work yall put in and the reviews. Well done
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Absolutely love my Osprey Xenith Pro, it's a 7500 cubic inch capacity expedition pack, and it's been a solid bag for two decades now. Also attached is a Vector Summit for a great day bag.
I do believe it was the $700 pack of it's day. I spent two active duty enlistments in the Army and this is by far best fitting bag I've ever used.
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Hands down you are one of my favorite gear reviewers and I know that you'll lay it all out honestly.
My opinion is similar to your first impression, I wouldn't even blink at the price if Osprey made an Atmos AG and used carbon fiber stays and Dyneema and got it down to sub 2lbs. They went the complete opposite way though, rather than practical they went full gimmick
A lot of those features are not new to Osprey packs, but what would make that worth 700$ to me is less shoulder/neck stress and pain when backpacking. That is what I find to be unbearable when hiking and I've always wished for something more dynamic. I am excited to see what the results are!
How much load do you usually carry? I have found that the best way to prevent shoulder/Neck Stress is to use a heavier but more comfortable Backpack and lighten the weight of your other Equipment.
By using a quilt, a Air and foam Pad Combo (for Winter) and a light tent (Like lanshan) + clothes like the Decathlon down Jacket, you can get a base weight of Like 5kg without the Backpack for a full setup for really cheap. Paired with a really comfortable Backpack you can get around 9-10kg for 2-3 nights with food and water. Really light, comfortable, cheap and no more pain
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Gregory has been doing a lot of this for 20 years now. Top loaders with side access zippers. Huge detachable lids that can be used independently or strapped to your chest. Designs that hold the back panel away from your back for airflow. Huge, very stretchy mesh front stuff nets that work independently from what is stuffed in the main compartment. That's why I initially fell in love with Gregory packs. They always had huge mesh stuff nets on the front that were very stretchy. You never need to take something off and toss it in the main compartment. You could often stuff so much into them that I'd often end up with half a 65 liter pack on the outside mesh stuff pocket by the end of a trip.
I appreciate the fact that Osprey isn't afraid to go for it. $700 isn't in my budget although I've already begun to keep an eye out for a used one that is in my price range. I'm a diehard Osprey fan and currently own three of their packs. Which I love with each having a different purpose. If I had an extra seven hundred I would have one.
This review is like Top Gear / Grand Tour. Thank you for the detailed review of the Ferrari that 99.9% of your viewers will never be able to buy.
Luke, I know this may go against what your channel is all about, but I think a fair evaluation of this pack is to let another person who doesn’t know the price tag on this pack test it out. We are all human and even though you do great on evaluating products, deep down there is always that bias that may skew your opinion. Just my 2 cents brother. Think of it as a “control”.
I know for a fact that osprey makes amazing bags but for $700 I hope it also makes amazing coffee.
It looks like a nice pack. I'm looking forward to seeing what you really think of it over time.
I was waiting for your conclusion after trying it?
Setting aside price for a moment... I think there's been a bit of a tunnel vision on reducing weight on certain components that has actually gone down a wrong path. The backpack weight itself is only a fraction of your total system weight. Therefore it may in fact be wise to expand the "weight budget" of the backpack a bit if doing so provides compounding or exponential benefit. i.e. it allows you to build a far more advanced harness and weight distribution system. Which allows you to carry more total system weight far more comfortably than a ultra light backpack. Coming from a military perspective there is a trend among load barring equipment (chest rigs, plate carriers, battle belts, etc.) towards more sturdy, better load distributing rigs that themselves are heavier than what was formerly the trend of ultra light ones. I think this was what Osprey is trying to achieve; jury is still out on if they've successfully done that however.
Love ur vids! Keep up the good work!
Looks like a darn nice pack and good to see you reviewing something other than the military stuff.
I wonder how durable this backpack is in the long run. With that price tag it should last a lifetime and then some aswell. It looks awesome but I wonder if small knife cut, branches or ember ruin this backpack?
Yup a major part of it being justified to be that price would be an expectation of it lasting to be handed down to the next generation to be used.
Nope. At that price I’d be too worried about getting it dirty or scuffing/tearing it, that it would take the fun out of backpacking for me.
I've been waiting for a thorough review of this pack! Looking forward to your review of it in action. You did an excellent job on the details! Really good video. I love my Osprey Aether and Aether plus packs though. As cool and innovative as this Ultimate is, I can't see how this pack would enhance my experience in the back country. I'm already satisfied! I do commend Osprey though for striving for perfection and being a ground breaking company (pardon the pun). Strange that they took the "stuff pouch" that was in the center and moved it to the side. From my perspective, it seems like they just did away with it altogether since I carry a water bottle on both sides. I usually stick my river crossing shoes or stow a clothing layer in that center stuff pouch. If the goal of the new placement was to have things accessible without having to remove the pack, it doesn't make sense for me. I still have to remove the pack to shed or don a layer or to change into water shoes. I'm sure Osprey was trying to reduce the amount of weight we keep adding to the back of packs though, pulling our center of gravity backwards all the time!
With this pack I would miss that 2nd zippered pouch in the top lid found in the Aethers. I also don't love that limited access to the main compartment from the top of the Unlimited. Maybe I'd get used to it, but even though I use the front access a lot on my Aethers, I use the top access all the time, loving the ability to have a full view down into the pack; never mind the ease of placing a rainproof liner into the main compartment.
Anyway- great review- great pack as of now- just not a practical price point.
Hi from Syracuse NY brother thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures with equipment
No doubt, this pack is EXTREMELY cool. I love the features and it looks amazing, but as many have already said, $700 is complete and utter insanity. Lol The weight is a huge turn off too, but that’s just me.
Agreed. Part of the weight is the adjustability. You can easily get around that if you try a couple of other backpacks and find one that fits you well.
@@etherealicer For sure! I actually just bought the REI Flash 55 on sale for $139.99 and it’s nothing too special, but at the same time it is pretty much the perfect pack for me in every way. I do really love the look of this Osprey pack though.
@@ManivanAdventures Currently my most used is the TSL Dragonfly 15/30 (I think I paid around $70). Overall a pretty mediocre backpack (quality looks etc). But it can switch between 15 and 30 litre and that is so amazing for me...
I’ll take my ULA Ohm 2.0 over this pack every time. Cost me a little over $250, weighs 2lb and no complaints after 4 years.
I wouldn’t pay $700 for a pack unless it came with a mule.🤷🏻♂️
I think a pack that big is meant for people who intend to carry a mule on their back though..
Crazy amount but I got it and am glad. I've done lots of mileage with this pack and where I've come home with aches and pains before with other packs, this one brings me home in great shape carrying the same if not more weight. This alone makes it worth it for me. Very well made, extremely comfortable...
I would think kinda heavy for that expensive of a bag...can't wait to hear what ya got to say.. Thank you for sharing this with us
Now because this bag is the most expensive on the market the ultra light fruit cakes are going to jump on it and make a shift to "technical gear" because it's outrageously priced
Except it weighs like half my base weight lmao
thank you for sharing this information with us all .I definitely like the features of the pack looks very durable and comfortable. I just wish it wasn't so expensive .iam a huge osprey fan and have a few of their parks that I absolutely love. looking forward to your overall opinion and review .
Great review, I really like how it opens up from the opposite direction, so you have access to everything instead of pulling out all of your items to get to the bottom of the pack. Can neatly pack items better I’d imagine too. But $700 is just ridiculous.. I’ll be sticking with my Atmos AG 65 for now.
Take it from somebody who has a double-zipper backpack - those zippers will be the first thing to fail. Once they fail...
Thanks so much Luke for giving us unbiased reviews
I love the comprehensive review. You do excellent reviews.
As for the pack, I hate all the failure points and heavy features of this pack.
Back in 1983 I bought a Cannondale backpack for a whopping $225. That is analogous to buying a pack for $1000 today. Though there are things I still like about it, it has a double-zipper main entry. The zipper failed within a dozen short trips.
I can still use it because it has the extra zipper. I just removed the unlocked zipper and stitched up the zipper end. But I will never again get a backpack with a zipper, aside of detachable hip or shoulder pouches.
A roll-top design is far superior. Make the pack with XPAC or DCF, and it is hard to beat, provided the fit and straps are comfortable.
As for water-resistant zippers? I have them on an otherwise excellent five-year-old daypack that I bought on sale at Aldi, of all places. They are not water-resistant forever. They crack and leak, which requires you to use a pack cover. Fortunately, that pack has those zippers only on a few, small pockets.
An excellent compromise between packs that are too light and consequently not especially comfortable (my Zpacks Arc Haul) and packs that are too heavy and full of failure points is the Seek Outside Divide - a highly-versatile, ultralight XPAC roll-top backpack that can carry up to 200 libs in it's heaviest, framed configuration, yet can be set up as an ultralight, stripped-down frameless pack and somewhere in between, as well. It can weigh from 2 pounds to 3 pounds, depending on the configuration. My customized version cost me around $450 - not cheap, but not over-priced.
Pay attention to Seek Outside's excellent strap system and innovative quick-release buckles.
This pack carries 50 pounds better than my Arc Haul can carry 35 pounds.
As far as the price point of the Osprey? It is ludicrous, especially when you consider all of the extra doodads that will eventually fail. It clearly is targeting the middle-aged wannabe who has way too much money who is spending $700 on a pack to impress his equally shallow buddies. I saw it all the time when I worked in the bike biz. Vain, arrogant, vapid, fat rich guys buying exorbitantly-priced racing bikes to ride for one season and then they get parked in the basement/garage, unused, forever. It drove me to quit the industry after 13 years. They are the same guys that buy '67 Stratocasters to hang on a wall as a decoration. Makes me want to puke.
Hey man i love your videos, especially the ones where you bring us camping, it feels like i’m really out there with you! I just have a request that may be helpful for backpackers like me who are new and on a budget. I was wondering if you could do a sleeping bag review on the Cabelas Instinct Scout 0 degree. It’s very cheap but there’s not much information anywhere on it. Figured you were a great person to test or review it! If not, no worries, keep up the awesome content!
Luke, im afraid this falls into the "luxury" but I'm anxious to see how well it proves out to you! It reminds me of my 2 M4s one a colt the other a ruger. The ruger is dusty and lives in the truck as a "coyote" multi use daily use thingy. The colt lives in a safe inside a soft case and is pristine and slick. I get the same performance out of both, they have slightly different features but the colt is much more prestigious to show off. I have a feeling this is where osprey is at with this expensive pack. Thx for the reviews !
I just received my Osprey UNLTD 32. I just didn't think I needed the big brother for short hikes or even an overnighter. I'll find out though. As of right now, the pack seems great but I wish it had some of these features your pack has although it has a lot of them. I can't wait to get out there and try it out
I don't know if the pack will end up being worth that hefty price tag, I can't imagine it will be. BUT....it sure looks cool and I'm loving the features! It is definitely a sharp looking pack! The cool factor is there! And it really does look crazy comfortable! I feel like if the design is awesome, even if it weights a bit more, that will be offset by the efficiency of that design. I hope so anyway! Looking forward to all the field testing and your opinion on it as you go on your adventures this summer!
You could get a very good tent for that price that will last you for years. 700 for a backpack is just insane!
Thanks for taking the hit on this one, Luke!
I enjoy your reviews and I am a gear junkie for sure, but nothing will ever replace my dear Alice!
Luke, it’s an awesome pack, but that is a lot of money. I’m just starting out so I don’t own a backpack and we just go camping with the cub scouts. We take a regular backpack and carry a first aid kit and some water bottles inside. Watching this was cool to see what the tip of the mountain is right now. It’s really cool and can’t wait to watch your other reviews on the pack.
I use Kelty exclusively. They are the mid, to upper price packs, and I really, really love them. Osprey makes good packs, just been partial to Kelty. However, even for a Kelty, I would not spend $700. Too pricey for me. My go to packs are the Kelty Coyote family, in the 50L and 65L packs, and I don't much care for the new versions. The last version, IMHO, was the best!
Thank you for the video and keep the reviews coming!!
Hi Luke, Mark here from New Zealand! I've just bought this pack and will report back to you after my first hike (we call it tramping). A huge improvement over the Atmos 50ag
Would love to hear back about this!
Thanks for another good review
Great Review. Interested to know your final thoughts. Agree on the pack cover being an option and not included to reduce price. Most folks would just go with Nylofume. Could actually take that same material used for the pack cover and make the lumbar pack also convert to a small backpack if needed. Shame there isn't a second hip belt pocket. I congratulate them on their efforts to push the boundaries. That's how progress is made. Unfortunately, (and I'm, a big Osprey fan), the weight makes it a no go for me. I could bite the bullet and spend the dough, but at 5+ lbs., I have reservations.
An interesting thought I just I had about the hydration bladder location is that it will be closer to your body, preventing it from freezing as quickly in extreme cold conditions.
To me, I dont care if a pack is ultralight. I'd rather lasting durability. I'm looking forward to seeing your thoughts after testing this bad boy. Definitely a cool design, and I'm sure theres alot of people who are more than happy to buy this!
I got one, its amazing. A whole weeks wage but it is super comfortable, and although i thought id have buyers remorse, once i wore it I’m in love. Mind you, i haven’t had other backpacks so don’t really have anything to compare it too.
looking at my ole reliable bleached out, mud encrusted, 5 years old, 40 Bucks, China Made, 3-day-assault-pack copy cat by "Mil Tec"... I had to drag that thing through countless work commutes, travels, hikes & camps UNTIL it finally tore on a day where I stuffed it real heavily and had excessive amounts of weight hanging on the Molle-webbings all around - I was barely able to lift it up and upon arrival noticed small blood vessels on my shoulders popped from the weight. And I am still using it today because the little rip that appeared on its outside tissue doesn't even mess with the backpack's integrity or weight bearing structure, it's just a potential leaking spot.
So when I compare that to 700 dollars, never ever could that backpack somehow ever impress me, no way! I watched your review on it with great curiosity and interest and I wanna thank you a lot for your detailed and objective approach, you give insights most people wouldn't dare to take for such a price in the first place.
But to be fully honest, like.... am I the only one who feels like.... if you have 700 dollars flying around so loosely that you even remotely consider getting such a backpack, wouldn't there maybe be more noble things you could do with such money? Don't know what target audience Osprey thought of, but for what I can say, all the people I know enjoying nature, hikes, travels, outdoor sports etc. would laugh their brains out hearing about a guy who spent 700 dollars on a backpack. It's a hillariously pathetic way to compensate for a midlife-crisis or last-resort-gift-idea. Would never let myself be seen with such a thing!!!
Thanks for sharing your review.
I don’t think there is ever a justification for $700+ for a back pack of any sort. That’s just insane. $700 better give you all of the components in one. That being; Light weight, Comfort, storage, extras like the lumbar/backpack detach options, customizable, and I would love to see a roll top on it for expandable options. And still I would be hard pressed to pay $700 plus tax for it. Maybe $500 max. Just not enough features for a main storage area and some side pockets with breathable frame. But that’s just my opinion. Love the videos Luke! I watch all your videos but never have commented. Strength and Honor my man! Till next time.
What's up Luke I see you got a new osprey that you're reviewing for a second time and yes $700 is still way more than what it should be
Tell Susan the kids I said hello and take care
Good video as always
I love osprey, although I only have one of their backpacks a stratos 50. I would justify such a high price, for a super comfortable, yet indestructible pack that would last me a lifetime. Something like a combination of osprey with maxpedition or bergans with demolition ranch! Hopfully, after your testing, all the know-how and technology of osprey will prove me wrong, and this will be proven to be an exceptional pack!
Very informative and interesting as always luke...I think I will stick with my Atmos, it does the job ....thanks and God bless...🙏❤
Every company should be doing what Osprey has done here. Put all the research and development into a high quality and innovative product. Yes, it is expensive but that is not the point. The beauty of it is that people WILL buy it and start sharing the pros and cons. Adjustments will be done to it, competitors will heed the call, and more affordable packs with similar tech will start to be produced. Bravo Osprey
It’s an interesting R&D project and I’m sure some things Osprey learned from this will influence future products.
If it's your passion, go for it. I bicycle tour, bike pack and even have a snow bike. I got rid of my car because I didn't use it and bicycling became a way of life. I spend on items that don't make biking easier, but the quality give me peace of mind. If this pack gives you a buzz, buy it...or you'll be out hiking and thinking about it, even if it turns out to be a minor upgrade
I need a rugged waterproof shell. Can handle branches and brush scrapping up against it, and still stay waterproof. If this can do it. I'd pay around $325-$360 for this. Good support and back saving designs is more beneficial than just cutting load weight by a pound or two. Can't wait to see how this holds up this summer!
Greetings Luke great review, Luke I have no experience expensive backpack but I would agree with a good backpack with same kind of warranty and a registration in today's economy we need every dollar count. Keep up the good work...
I want to say that I have an 2 Ospreys, a 75 and 100 and they are already high quality!
Loved the innovation. Great design features just about all tha I would seek in a long term backpack. Yet the price, maybe if it was filled with some essentials, like a bladder, soft bottle with filter, and so on....pricey
Well Luke, with all the different packs you have experience with. You would be the go to guy for a review and honest answer on this one. For Me at that price, well it would need to carry my load out in a true anti gravity hovering behind me all day and be right there when I whistle for it. Now that's $700 +tax and shipping worth it. Ha! Thanks Luke. Since you have had back injuries along with many of us, we await your verdict.
@Luke Try reviewing the Mardingtop 75L pack. I think you'll be impressed with that pack and it's quite affordable.
I love my Osprey AG packs (one for backpacking and a day pack) but wow!!! Crazy expensive. I can’t imagine buying one no matter what the improvements are.
The most advance and the best tool one can ever have is one's own body. Keep it sharp and you're good to go anywhere.
Great review. I have an Osprey backpack myself, which is great. I think the tried hard to make this thing full of feature but in my opionion missed the mark on allot of the main goals i would have for a bag.
Like them top part you can disconect. Very few people probably would use that. But it adds allot of weight with its padding etc. Alsonormally the top lid would protect the top opening from water etc. This one has a water resistant zipper below. Granted most packs are water resistant and not waterproof, but this could have been something to justify 700 dollars. Also That opening doesnt look as good as with conventional bags.
The compressable sleeping bag compartment sounds nice, but also redundant since most sleeping bags have a compression sack themselves. Also if you use a light and small sleeping back it wont be of any use, because they are way smaller than this compression compartment.
The pack has allot of compartments, which is great if you like that and bad if you want a more streamlined lighter pack. No pro or con, depends on you.
The padding and comfort sound great and im sure they are, but for me they would be the only pro i see for this pack compared to other ones.
We are Osprey super supporters, I personally have 4 and counting, love the features however for $700.00 price tag..... it would have to carry me up the mountain 😂😂😂😂 I just subscribed to the channel, curious on your feedback after you put it through the paces. Nice demo!!!!
Expensive. Great info. Thanks
Great review so far Luke.
I have the exos 48 love it.
This new one looks impressive but so far it’s not making me want to buy it.
I want to buy the original AG 65 atmos as it’s awesome.
I will however wait for your in depth review.
So far impresed with the look of it but not €700
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I got this lil pack from lidil on sale for 5 bucks about 3 years ago, still holding up good. Nothin special, one large pouch one small pouch. Decent pack.
I know I know, a bit pricy but I figured you only live once
Anti Gravity catchy name good zips well thought out handy pockets. Brilliant bag.
Awesome pack!, Never seen anything like it, can't imagine what other companies will come out with, pricey, still love my Alice pk
Meanwhile, the ULA Ohm 2.0 63L, a tried and true pack used by many experienced hikers, weighs 33 oz. and costs around $260 depending on options.
I’m starting my 5th year with my Ohm 2.0 with zero complaints, and it’s still going strong.
Great pack from a great company.👍🏼
I’ve got a Catalyst. Half the weight of the Osprey. Mine is Xpac, not sure how that fabric compares to that used in the Osprey but I like it. Just can’t see packing around 5.5 pounds before even adding gear.
I am hoping that they did something special with the rain cover also. Some adjustability so if you have gear stuff in that external pocket or something like a tent or foam pad attached to the lower gear loop clips then the cover will still work.
Loved your review of the OMG-$700X! Osprey.
For $700, it really should have my coffee ready first thing when I wake-up while in the back country. I've seen several reviews for these packs already, and: 1) I really like some of the features of this pack. 2) You hit the point directly; for $700, you would want a pack with the same features (or very close) and be a lot lighter weight. At 5.5 lbs (6.3 for the S/M AirScape!) I agree.
I realize that this pack is designed to carry the load so that it feels lighter, but for the money, it seems they could have found ways to shed some weight.
It looks like a very nice backpack with well thought out options but the 700 dollar price is steep. I would say it's geared for the person who needs to have the best of the best and doesn't care of cost. The rest of Us live in reality. Nice to see the review thanks Luke 👍