It's been said here already, but worth repeating, Joe's strength is allowing his guests to complete a thought without sensational interruptions. Most talk show hosts won't allow a guest to complete a sentence without interruption... no coherent thoughts allowed. Good work Joe, we appreciate you.
@@Mr_Daddy1980 Ive a master of divinity, study New Testament and theology and what Peterson was saying is non-sense. The fact that the king James version of the Bible is woven through western literature has everything to do with the dictates of power mixed with a bit of luck.
My grandpa has read his Bible every night before bed. Many different Bibles. I asked him to sum up what the bible tells us. He said "the bible proves one thing, that man will fail himself and resort back to needing a god."
@@ZippyG God tells us to love each other as he loves us. it’s important to know that no matter how many times we pray, or fast, if we’re dead and evil within our hearts nothing matters. try to learn to speak WITH God not TO God.
@@BostonsVeryOwn. I see the connective consciousness all around as well, synchronicity’s and phrases, vibes ppl n energy all around is everything I can feel and see it. But the devil can sway away with temptation’s so I stay cautious.
That's a tactic for explaining hard things to those who aren't at the place to ask the right questions themselves to understand what you're trying to explain to them. Many great teachers I've seen do it.
Joe is not a idiot, he's naturally a open book you just need to write the ink. He is gaining endless wisdom the best way possible. Even if they are wrong he gains a insight
@@tasospelou8630 well technically your comment is already from yesteday, so you are officially talking about the past 😁 The past and future do exist, unless you wrote your comment "now" instead of "yesteday"
What a blessing to see Dr. Jordan B. Peterson back on Joe Rogan. Grateful to see his health restored and back to full health sharing some new eye opening revelations that he has gained throughout the years. The most admirable part of his story is his continued growth in the process. So many people get stuck in their ways and are unable to continuously grow with the time and new information. Dr. Peterson shows that regardless of the age you are never too old to learn.
The beauty of seeking knowledge and learning is that knowledge gained expands your horizon of ignorance. In that the more one learns the more one realizes there is more to be learnt, thus it's a constant progression that requires humility and courage.
I agree, but fans of other podcasts would disagree. Literally every other podcast on youtube would have a commenter who would say the same thing you did.
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Yeah honestly he's the best interviewer in the world for multiple reasons/skills but that one really makes the thinking person stop and appreciate the hell out of Joe
I'd like to see the worlds greatest air type writer vs the worlds greatest air piano player, I predict there will be more finger licking action going on
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Joe Rogan is great at interviewing. His ability to fit in with nearly any guest he has and decipher when he should listen and when he should speak is his greatest gift to our modern media. Glad to see Peterson is doing well and appears to have recovered quite well. It's always interesting to hear him speak.
This was great, 4 hrs zipped by. I kicked booze and pills 18 years ago. Life is better now because quitting was hard. Hang tough to all bros out there quitting bad habits.
Jordan is such an unusual person. As he speaks, his own thoughts are playing off of each other, so he's constantly deriving new understandings from his own notions tumbling around and through each other. You have to let him speak, even if it takes several minutes to complete a thought, and what you get at the end is often some amazing epiphany. Jordan is a student of life who will never stop learning until he dies.
People with brains like Dr. Peterson do way better writing their thoughts. When they speak, everything from all corners of memory on the given topic want up front at the same time. He does remarkably well in both. The guy is sharp.
I imagine it’s that they are very easily impressed with themselves… because they do pick up the gist of what J. P. is trying to say. What I question is why don’t they see the obvious - “A very insecure, ageing male who wakes up daily asking himself - “Is today the day I jump off the cliff”.
HOW DARE YOU say “God bless you”!!! You sky daddy religiotard!! You should be praying to SCIENCE and saying “Karl Marx bless you”!! You are childish to believe in such children’s stories like believing in the Easter bunny and santa clause!! You should not be watching these fakesters you should be watching REAL educational content like ancient aliens and Rick and Morty!!! STOP BELIEVING IN A 2,000 YEAR OLD BOOK! Maybe then you will be as enlightened and as intellectually unique as us knowledgeable and distinguished atheists! You’ve been logic’d! (I know for most of you, you’ll know this is a joke, but for those who don’t, yeah it’s a joke)
This reunion was long overdue. I'm so glad that our good Doctor is back in good health and continuing his legacy of helping people and making us think.
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“Dr Peterson, what’s your favorite color?" “Well that depends on what you mean by favorite. And it also depends on what you mean by color. This is a very complex question... One must acknowledge the underlying verisimilitude that is irrevocably nested within a multi-layered metaphysical substrate which many people fundamentally conflate with their ideological presuppositions with uncertain irregularity, the very byproduct of Jung's extrapolation of the archetypal and axiomatic juxtaposition of Raskolnikov's neo-Marxist existential nihilism. With that said... I've written a 600 page book on the subject, which unpacks the uninformative intimations with absolute precision, both biologically and metaphysically..."
Well said . I bet most of his followers don’t understand most of what he says. Part of being genius is to explain complex ideas in simpler terms so everyone can understand . Not everyone has the luxury to study philosophy or other complicated ideas.
This is genuinely one of the most profound ideas I've come across. In this sense, the content of what lies within the Bible becomes the LIVING word as we collectively digest it. As someone who does not identify as a Christian, but is wholeheartedly connected to an active and deeply connected experience of God/Grace, this idea resonates. I wonder if we can't also apply the notion that we are living out so many plot-lines these days, as so many of our works of fiction--their very story lines--are coming to fruition all around us. What a time to be alive. Co-creators in an ever expansive universe, our future hinging on the capacity of collective imagining.
The bible explained it all. We became co-creators once God commanded Adam to name the beasts of the field. Look up Jordan petersons lectures on this topic. Its mind-blowing. There has never and will never be a wisdom as such in the Bible. Infinitely deep.
Grace without truth is to indulge our selfish human nature. Truth without grace is at its best mean and can be downright destructive to our soul. The living word of scripture is designed to be truth with grace. Only our loving Father in heaven can give us both. I’m a Christian because Jesus Yeshua, came here to give me ultimate grace. I put all my hope and trust in His finished work on the cross because the truth is I will fail but He did not. Please open your heart to Jesus message of truth and grace. Give His infinite love a chance. God bless you.
@@Zachhatesyoutube Are you done mopping that floor on aisle 5 yet, junior? Maybe i'm giving too much credit that you would have a job? Lol pseudo intellectual.
THIS is the stuff I want to hear Peterson talk about...His time and energy is so often wasted on fighting social justice warrior type arguments which is quite honestly just a waste of his mind. May as well inspire new novel thoughts in open-minded people than to try and change the minds of those who are uninterested and lazy thinkers.
I disagree. I think we need both sides of Dr. Peterson. We need his intellect and reason to fight the plague that is Progressivism. But we also need his deep thoughts on stuff like this to guide us into a deeper understanding of life.
Joe goes into every interview trying to learn. This is why he is such a good listener. He never thinks he knows everything and always is aware he could learn more.
I think Joe more than half the guys he gives air to. Wonder how many pay him for it, and such. But considering the big media gave him tons to "own" him is rich. Many very liberal people I know who openly dislike Rogan and guys like JP do make a point. It does seem big media, even Lib media, isn't anti-Rogan... it seems to want to buy them out and major critics and wannabe cancelers are the ones who get dropped. I found it funny how everything is still about making old rich men even richer and more powerful.
New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) Watch the TH-cam videos “The New Covenant” by Bob George, and David H.J. Gay. ================================ Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says? What did Peter say below? Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Act 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God? Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage? Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, “baptize” KJV Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
I was about to close the video thinking that he's just trying to seem smart, but than I caught up to him - basically surprised by myself than anything 😅 And the theory about bible being true because of it being a foundation for tons of linguistic content is at least curious
There are echos of the collective unconscious (Carl Jung) and the hero’s journey (Joseph Campbell) in this argument. The more you dig into those ideas the more what is being said will hit home
The more I listen to Peterson, the wiser I feel especially, when he talks about Religion & God. Actually, he's the reason why I'm not an atheist anymore, so thank you Jordan for existing on this Earth. Regarding the Bible, there should be a black pope as Wars and climate changes continue spreading all over the world according to the Bible. Besides, I've talked someone, who reads the Bible more than me, about all of this and to my surprise, we both agreed. Therefore, I wasn´t that wrong about the existence of this black pope.
Just my opinion but I believe that when you take something complicated and make it more complicated you have accomplished nothing... however those that can take something complicated and simplify it to where all types of intellect can understand you're on a different level of intelligence
being able to explain something for all intellect does not make you more intelligent. it makes you a great teacher. you could be the most intelligent person but lack the ability to communicate your own understanding to others.
I agree with you 100%, although people tend to complicate explanations aiming to look smarter or to be accepted by a few...its is the ability to solve or break problems into easier tasks, its all about perspective
Joe is so good at letting his guests talk at the right times. He’s great at knowing when to cut in and ask questions and when to let his guests teach him. There’s a lot of podcasters that have trouble with this.
He’s also very good with focus on subject + placement of conversation, in goggins one he kept guiding him thru and back to the points leading to him and many other guests telling their story on point, he has some what mastered a lot of skills ppl don’t notice.
The first Jordan Peterson interview changed my life. Finally someone else in academics who saw what was going on and was willing to say something, and who had a lot more to offer than criticism.
Working in academia is not an easy thing to do these days. JP's article about why he retired earlier was completely accurate about what is happening to academia.
@Zack from the North Trying putting together a coherent sentence and explain to me why you think he was wrong about the current state of academia. Let's have a conversation.
@@Jtgagemac EDI statements, unconscious bias training, losing out job competitions to under-qualified EDI candidates (and being told as such off the record), being the victim of harassment, ridicule and stereotypes behavior that would otherwise be called racist and not allowed if my skin color was not so light because of course you cannot be racist towards white people. The list goes on...
To put it simpley, since primitive man, literature has influenced other literature and the Bible was one of if not The first book. It influenced other literature and so on. Just look at it like the evolution of culture and literature and the Bible is at the base
Here’s what a conversation with Jordan Peterson is like…….. A. Introduces Idea B. Explains a word or two in idea 1 in further detail C. Gives a story based upon the abstraction of those 1-2 words D. His brain goes off on a tangent related to an idea he had when telling the story and solving his own problem out loud. E. We find out D is not a tangent but actually another subpoint to C F. Repeats this whole process a few more times G. Wraps em the whole conversation bringing together the layering of all these points very precisely and strategically in one large narrative helping us realize he is not crazy and he did in fact have a point.
Although it is often "G."in the case of JP yes; in this case he falls into the pit of not realizing that he doesn't understand that monotheism was built for the only sake of forming state hierarchy. Libertarian/conservative atheists (I guess we are mostly in Europe) have no problem understanding that; there would be no North korean commie dictatorship without monotheist cultism through history (like the pharaohs deified themselves, so did the NK ruler family). The step up from that to an invisible fantasy god isn't a large step. But it controls people.
If you say so. Does he really wrap up the conversation with a "precise and strategic" narrative? I would say absolutely not. Hes a bore. Why can't he just explain things without going off on some silly dialogue that makes no sense when he could just explain an idea without all the BS? If you're really impressed by the way he teaches then you probably haven't listened to many really good teachers. He's somewhat of a fraud as far as I'm concerned.
@@ScottH. makes no sense to you? 👀 Also about your simple answer comment, there’s no simple answer to a complex question, why? Because often times, a simple answer giving as antidote to a complex question will be misunderstood! Also how should he then explain the totality of the idea without bringing up something to anchor it on? And again, why call him a bore? Just because you don’t like his method of teaching doesn’t make it any less interesting. There are people who think that cricket is more interesting to watch than soccer, or basketball, that doesn’t make them any less interesting! And finally if you want to call out someone or make a case about them, you should have logical reasons to do so, so you don’t come off as a hater or more bitter than your comment already let on.
"I just figured this out this week"...the reason why Jordan is so great and knowledgable is because he is always continually learning, you never know it all folks
4:19 It isn’t that the Bible is true. It’s that the Bible is the precondition for the manifestation of truth. Which makes it way more true than just true. It’s a whole different kind of true. And I think this is not only literally the case, factually I think it can’t be any other way. It’s the only way we can solve the problem of perception. - Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
Easy version from C.S. Lewis: “I believe in Christianity as I believe that the Sun has risen, not only because I see it but because by it, I see everything else.”
Lol I used to hear this quote all the time when I went to a Christian school… sounds nice but really doesn’t say anything… what’s the connection or correlation of this big ball of fire gas illuminating the world/what we see around us have to do with Christianity specifically?
@@chrisgertz33 if you’re really a Christian, you’ll see patterns of good vs evil all over the world. You’ll see the destructive consequences of lust, pride and greed as examples
@@chrisgertz33 well Jordan just explained this the whole video . The sun rising shows you people are waking up, starting work, 6am is based upon that, the word morning us based upon that , breakfast literally ur idea of "starting your day" is bas we upon it. The Bible I get saddened by murders why ? Not only because lives are lost because the Bible teaches us about why it's wrong. The year you live in based upon the Bible,law , food EVERYTHING. It's like me bring black, o just view the world differently than other races. Regardless of what I change or feel
@@Obamnaz You don’t have to be a Christian to recognize these things. Just a morally sound human being that’s perceptive enough to recognize the evils of the world
@@ExecutionerHopkins Speak for yourself. I’m not a believer yet I was raised by good people who encouraged me to do good things. The people you speak of are evil people with an evil agenda, though I doubt that’s due to their lack of belief in Christ. Western Europe is predominantly Christian. I hope you realize simply believing in the teachings of the Bible doesn’t make you a good person. People choose not to act on those teachings while being fully aware of them. Some of the most cruel acts in history were committed by religious men.
JP is talking nonsense. Upanishads the Hindu sacred treatises were written in Sanskrit c. 800-200 BC, expounding the Vedas in predominantly mystical and monistic terms. And then there are the Yogic Sciences written more than 10,000 years ago. JP's claim the Bible is the "first book wriiten" is laughable. It is very much like Columbus "dicovering " America. There are million interpretation of the Bible and JP's is one of them. Bible is a book full of absurdities, make believe stories and bizarre happenings. Compared to the Bible, the story of "Jack and the Beanstalk" seems real.
Imagine if all men were understanding and open to understand basic things like this and explode and explore their own thoughts this way and with others on a daily basis, I think the world would be a much better place
@@dareneq1 I agree with your sentiment, but Jordan Peterson is basically a fake intellectual. Society is just mega dumbed down... So he seems like a genius because he's confident and uses higher register. The man is a sophist. You want genius? Read Plato.
I disagree slightly. I personally think this type of open though conversation has resulted in a very confused Jordan having a vocal conjecture with himself while he is trying to make sense of what he has just said. He just beat around the bush and his final statement wasn’t as much convincing as it was a pleasure to watch the struggle end.
Here are some facts and may God Almighty guide our hearts to the truth and keep us steadfast always. Ameen. Muslims believe Jesus pbuh was a mighty messenger of God who submitted his will to Allah (God) and was only sent to the lost tribe of Israel not to the whole of humanity as even stated in parts of the bible. Jesus pbuh never once claimed to be God and say "worship me and 2 other deities im part of a trion God" anywhere in the bible (if that was the case wouldnt rationality dictate for him to make that openly clear and upfront?!!). The trinity's something that was added in the 4th century by church fathers who couldn't agree to add it in till then. Jesus pbuh was born of a miraculous birth (without a biological father) by the will of Allah (God) and was able to perform miracles by the permission of the Almighty as proof to the lost tribe of Israel that he is indeed a prophet of God sent to them to warn them to give up idolatry and mischief as did other prophets before him such as Moses pbuh who also performed miracles by the will and permission of the Almighty (He split the sea) and to worship One God alone without any partners. We Muslims believe that Adam pbuh is humanity's father and the first Muslim and prophet of God on earth, he was born of a more miraculous birth than Jesus pbuh (no father or mother). Islam means submission (also means peace) is not a new religion, its the religion of all previous messengers who all submitted and preached the same message which is to worship One God alone with no partners as Jesus pbuh said he did not come to abolish the law. Jesus pbuh worshipped God alone, did he not say "the father is greater than i" did he also not say "hear o Israel the lord OUR God is one"?!!. Jesus pbuh did not want to be killed or sacrificed for anyone's sins as it is Almighty God alone who can forgive any sin by accepting one's true repentance if he wishes as his mercy incompasses everything. Proof of that in the Garden of Gethsemane when Jesus pbuh fell to his face in prayer to Almighty Allah and asked: "please take this cup of suffering away from me". We Muslims believe Allah answered Jesus's prayer and saved him from his to be murderers by elevating him back up to heaven and what was on the cross was only made to appear to the criminals as such by the will of God. We also await his second coming where he will come to kill the anti christ, destroy the cross and affirm Islam and the Qur'an as the final revelation/legislation. He will marry and live a normal life till he dies. Proof of the coming of the prophet Mohamed pbuh is also mentioned in the bible where it says in John 16:12 "i have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. [13] Howbeit when HE, the Spirit of truth (thats the prophet Mohamed pbuh, if you read his biography he was always known as the truthful one) is come, HE will guide you into all truth: for HE shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever HE shall hear, that shall HE speak: and HE will shew you things to come". That's exactly how our beloved prophet was pbuh. The Qur'an contains absolutely no contradictions. The bible has a multitude of contradictions and many versions in which youll find some ommited texts and books that the church fathers couldnt agree on as the original message of Jesus pbuh and language (Aramaic) was lost in translation centuries later in hebrew and greek and was heavily influenced by the pagan traditions of that time where some human and animal sacrifices often took place. The Jews reject Jesus pbuh completely and consider him an imposter hence why Juda betrayed him etc.. whether you believe it or not Islam and the Qur'an and the prophet Mohamed pbuh is true. Islam is the fastest growing religion on earth and insha'Allah (God willing) will be in the very near future as God's truth always prevails over falsehood no matter how hard people try to cover it. Christianity is dieing because the true message has been so diluted to fit people's worldly and life desires that no one cares to follow it, Christians don't follow the true teachings of Jesus pbuh, Muslims do. An example or two of that: Jesus pbuh used to fast 40 days of the year, He also never ate porc, drank alcohol or gambled yet a lot of Christians today do it openly, they follow Paul's message who abolished the law, not Jesus pbuh. Jesus pbuh never taught or ordained Christmas celebrations or having a lit up Christmas tree (it is considered paganism, even some famous u.s televangelists such as Pat Robertson in admit it but wont condemn it as it because they fear that might drive more christians away from Christianity, so hey who cares what God actually ordains right?! why not, its after all only just another innovation!!) Jesus pbuh was not born on the 25th of December its all pagan traditions introduced and innovated later on. Believing that Almighty God who created all things with his infinite knowledge and wisdom came down or had a son whom he sent to be killed by his own creation is in itself utter blasphemy and the most irrational disrespectful thing one can believe in, claim or imagine of an all powerful all wise all merciful Lord, it is the ultimate sign of weakness and injustice to Almighty God who's never weak, he also never ceases to exist and is not touched by death which only creation experiences, He is the ever living, self-sufficient, omnipotent and the reason why hell was created for the disbelievers, may Allah protect us from it. Ameen. Indeed such beliefs are of the devil who rebelled against his Lord and is to the son of Adam a clear enemy till the end of times. Compare that to what Islam (which is pure monotheism) represents and how much Almighty God is revearead and that argument falls apart. I Invite everyone to read the noble Qur'an with an open mind. Peace
Saying the bible was the first book is total nonsense. Sorry Jordan, but all those books before it were burned remember? Constantine published it in his way to blend all religions together in one book that he gave to the people (free....people didnt buy a bible then), because there was too many religions around and nobody agreed upon anything. The bible was NOT the first book (in book form). Jordan is talking about the invention of "a book"...not the first book every written. The bible was also a bunch of papers that got changed over and over again by translating it. Anyways...one of few times is disagree
Say what you want about Joe but his ability to make an interesting conversation with his guests is top notch. He listens, does not interrupts and asks questions that make his guests excited about the topic.
Top notch ? 😆😆😆😆😆 joe can't even find his way off stage without the help of his Dr. Wife. Let alone understand and respond to an intelligent question. 😆😆😆😆😆
I hope his realization don't lead to another massacres of peoples same as happen in Canada and also don't start another world War in the name of holy Jesus Christ ...humanity have suffered it enough
I like how Jordan said “I learned this last week.” I’ve been a Christian all my life, however I went to the Museum of the Bible in DC too twice BUT only the second time I actually understood the creation of the book. It’s incredible!
Yet, the Vatican, the quintessential progenitor of the Christian religion in the western world went so far as to declare itself a sovereign nation, in order to keep its contents, hidden from the world. What you have learned and think you know is it exactly what they want you to.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. That is a nice intellectual way for Dr. Peterson to explain how fundamental God's word is. I never thought of it like that but I know without a doubt that God is real, Jesus is only son whom he sent to die for our sins and if you believe this and repent you will be saved 🙏🙌🙏
It is hard for me to become atheist, too many things in christianity hold me to believe in Jesus christ. It is hard to live without christianity, it would be chaos in my life, i could do everything i want as long i want it, but christianity give me boundaries and it kept me in order.
When Guttenberg invented the printing press his 1st book was the Bible, as we all know. Do you know what the 2nd one was ? It was a biography of Joseph of Arimathea. The man only mentioned once as the man who donated his own tomb for Jesus to be buried in. He was the Roman Empire's equivalent of the Minister of Mines. Having control over mining and shipping which transported ores and refined metals. So what, you ask. As a devout convert to Christianity he used his power to help Christians escape persecution and transported them to the far flung outposts of the empire. So when the Roman's destroyed Jerusalem ( 70 AD?) approximately 3 million Jews were killed. The road from Jerusalem to Rome was lined with crucified Jewish leaders who rebelled against Rome, but no Christian Jews because Joseph had taken them out of harms way. Thus Christianity was spread as far away as the Britain and Spain and other places far from it's origin in Jerusalem. A man worthy of honor, but little known today.
Wow I've "known" about Joseph but did not know this!! Thank you for taking the time to tell this!! I really look forward to reading a little on this.. I have never heard this..
A 14 year old Atheist could debate him on the Bible and win. That's not because Peterson is stupid, but because fairy tales aren't difficult to argue against.
@@HoneyBadgerClub 🙏🏼yes I figured this out yesterday, the sentence you just shared. This is proof of his existence bc I’m here in my forever in flesh rn. That was the BIGGEST blessing of my life. God loves us.❤️
seems the further away society strays from God, the worse it gets. I never really seen peoples problem with the Bible. Teaches great foundations for mankind...lessons...morals
And within the Bible is it’s core revelation that comes from Jesus “I AM the truth they way and the life” It’s the massive truth within the truth. He is essentially the lighthouse in the middle of all religions, he is the fundamental guide and reasoning that draws the line and confirms what the Torah was saying . He’s the confirmation and stamp of authority that came into the world physically as us to make it abundantly clear . And right now, people are trying to destroy the fact that truth is even objective . Now they are trying to say “personal truth , my truth” When people are willing to threw away a fundamental understanding that truth is beyond them , then they establish themselves as gods and givers of truth. You see this happen in cultures, they take away objective truth to make way for oppressive alternative fake “truths”. If you manage to convince people “truth” is a social construct and a thing decided by votes or coercion , then things will collapse, quickly . This is why you see the people lying so much now and manipulating, they have become lawless, no respect or believe in real truth, rather they want to decide what you believe . What you celebrate , what you get mad at, no path for redemption, only enemies , etc It’s inescapable that the Bible established inescapable reasoning. People will talk about new a ge stuff all the time. And “spirituality” when doing hallucinatory things, so they have no problem with spirituality or a God. They have a problem with the God of the Bible. Because it states he has a standard for people. If he had a standard to build all of reality to exact precision , why wouldn’t he also have a standard for people to do right and also give them guidelines? He’s telling you how to operate to be happiest, and it doesn’t inlove materialism. You see materialism and superficialness is what’s destroying people right now too. Coincidence? That when people disobey , they start to ruin themselves? He didn’t make basic rules to ruin people’s “fun” he made basic rules because if you start operating in a way other than what you were created, your mistakes will ruin you. The Bible is a warning . It’s main warning is to be aware of deception . He’s the manufacture , he knows how this thing is supposed to work, people just don’t want to accept they aren’t in total control, because people are arrogant
there are lots of writing that predate the bible and I wouldn’t agree that the bible was the first book, there are Chinese, Egyptian, Mesopotamian texts that way predate the bible. Including the epic of Gilgamesh which is 5000 yrs old approx and it is the origin of the story for Noah’s ark
Its why so many people want to fight it. In many cases its telling how to be a good person. It takes a lot more energy to disprove it and not belive than it does to just believe. Whats so bad about being a better person and realizing your not the most important person in the room.
@Henry F Wagons He's a shadow of his former self. he's admitted that all the benzo addiction diminished his ability to concentrate deeply and probably is why he resigned. RIP Jordan
@@johnh383 and what's your proof that he didn't exist? Because Jesus Christ himself came to this world God in human form that he may restore humanity back to our Creator, but many did not accept him them and many don't believe in him now, this he said himself,it is appointed unto man death and after this the judgment Because all have fallen short of the glory of God ( sin) and only Jesus Christ himself is the solution .we all have a choice at the end but remember you will either spend eternity in heaven or he'll you can deny it all you want but it doesn't change the reality so please choose wisely
@@johnh383 creation is evidence of Jesus Christ because nothing that was formed without him he is the living word of God,the problem is not proving Jesus Christ but rather what he stands for and requires his followers to do its your heart that rejects the light remember the heart is the most deceitful thing because from it flows the issues of life hate love jealousy, greed envy etc and there's only one who can cure it and he is the almighty savior of the world.
LMAO! And he’s such a nice guy when he’s doing it! Nah, the fact that you listen to him indicates you’re not an idiot, but highly intellectually curious. 🤙
The Bible is as much fun to read as it is to quote. "Hear and give ear; do not be haughty, for the Lord has spoken. . . . And if you say in your heart, 'Why have these things come upon me?' it is for the greatness of your iniquity that your skirts are lifted up, and you are violated . . . because you have forgotten me and trusted in lies. I myself will lift up your skirts over your face, and your shame will be seen." (Jeremiah 13:15-26 NRSV)
@Lennox Lewis There is still significant benefit from the OT, even the prophecy books, but yes, its important to recognize the intended audience in each instance.
@Martin Luther I think that these passages answer those questions as well. "The Lord your God will drive out those nations before you, little by little. You will not be allowed to eliminate them all at once, or the wild animals will multiply around you. But the Lord your God will deliver them over to you, throwing them into great confusion until they are destroyed. He will give their kings into your hand, and you will wipe out their names from under heaven. No one will be able to stand up against you; you will destroy them. 25 The images of their gods you are to burn in the fire. " Deuteronomy 7
I'm 5 years sober, married 2.5 years, 1.5 year old baby girl with a boy on the way in April all thanks to jbp first interview on rogan years ago. He literally saved my life from addiction.
JBP had nothing to do with your sobriety, you control your actions and life. Give yourself credit, everything you have is because of you. He went on a podcast. You made the changes. You saved your life from addiction
@@jakep9643 he told a story that got me going back to AA and MA. I don't think I would have got sober again if it wasn't for him. Also his talks about family and children encouraged me to meet my wife and take the plunge into parenthood. I'm naturally a very selfish person. I needed some motivation to have a family. It's easier to just game and smoke weed.
It's a TOTAL SHAME that NO ONE has yet decodes what 12 STONES at the foundation of New Jerusalem truly are. No one even got interested! And that's the last sentences of the Bible!It's a TOTAL SHAME that NO ONE has yet decodes what 12 STONES at the foundation of New Jerusalem truly are. No one even got interested! And these are in the last sentences of the Bible!
Its a breath of fresh air to see more people coming to Christ. Watching Peterson and his journey...I pray Joe is able to bring it on in with Jesus and the family of Christ.
Share your knowledge of the holy spirit Jesus Christ on why he is great to others as well as yourself! Every religion talks of a heaven but who resides in the New Jerusalem? Become knowledgeable of many but serve one brother. That’s an art of war.
@@chaselephart7274 i pray for every good person of any religon what passed on them by culture or parents, they true for themself and what they belive thats why i pray for them
@Seth Belfort I'm actually an optomist more than anything, but my cynical side is still there. but i am a realist, and I don't see this as often as I'd like. perhaps I've been looking in the wrong places.
God is not 'magic man in sky'. He's the Creator of heaven and earth. None of this vast universe exists apart from Him. I would also remind you that apart from the mindset and the principles laid out in the Bible, there would be no Western civilisation. No democracy. No freedom. No Internet. No you. Imagine that! I suggest you get hold of and read a book called 'Return to the God Hypothesis' by Steven Meyer. It's on Kindle and not expensive. It will open your eyes. I also suggest you get hold of a Bible and read it. You'll find it doesn't read like fiction - it reads like fact. It starts, "In the beginning, God made the heavens and the earth." Nothing about a magic man in the sky. Don't end up being one of the ones who will stand before him in judgement to their utter destruction. Good luck dealing with that. Today is the day.
@@Stevie-J He did say that he only came to that realization a week earlier. Often, ideas have to be bounced off of others, honed down through reflection and argument/discussion before they become "on point".
I love when joe just zones out in fascination when an interesting guest is speaking. He really enjoys this stuff and truly wants to learn everything he can.
If he were intently listening, he would actuality be zoning _in_ - to say that he's zoning out would be to imply that Jordan's not holding Joe's attention.
Sean McCreadie But GOD, Who inspired the writing of the Bible, is NO LEGEND. Peterson tends to treat Him as though He were, in public at least. OK, so the Bible has played a critical role in the development of Western culture. We knew that already. More should be said about its UNIVERSALITY, for the Gospel was meant to be preached to ALL NATIONS. And so it has, to a remarkable extent. Which country sends out more Christian missionaries per capita than any other, the USA and UK included? SOUTH KOREA, apparently. Where in the world has evangelism exploded in our generation? In sub-Saharan Africa. These are no mere colonial outposts of 'Western culture'! Far from it.
@@scintillam_dei You betray a combination of abominable ignorance and equally abominable arrogance. You may go far in life, though in the wrong direction. Rocks exist in many places; some are useful and some not. Rocks reside within your heart and within your cranium. They are not of the useful kind, but hindrances. The belief that this amazingly ORDERED universe arose by happenstance, without aforethought, all its recognized and unrecognized physical laws in place, is so preposterous that I cannot possibly summon up the 'faith' to accept it. But this SUPERSTITION is not of recent origin, despite its prominent place among modern heresies. We find evidence of it in the ancient world; as the Hebrew psalmist writes: 'The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." ' Funny thing, how atheists feel such a powerful compulsion to uncover themselves in public! They have no shame. Some get paid a lot for doing this, and they do it on their own behalf, not at the behest of criminal exploiters.
This is, hands down, one of the most consequential videos I have watched to-date. It helped me reconcile a longstanding internal conflict that I have been struggling to resolve... pretty much for as long as I can remember really. Thank you Dr. Peterson! You continue to use your voice & knowledge to help others. Very few will ever reach the level of influence & have the level of (positive) impact that you have already achieved. Not only have you reached & helped tens of millions of people over the years, you have also done more to advance humanity, on a mental/ emotional/psychological/spiritual etc level, than almost any other in our lifetime. You are in a very exclusive league of genuine good-doers and I am so very thankful that God sent a gift to his children in the form of Dr. Jordan Peterson!
What is the problem you have? Worrying too much if it’s real or not? Who cares. It’s not important. Live your life and be happy or at least try to. Please don’t believe a man 2000 years ago saved the world and rise from the dead 😂
One of the best courses I took in Humanities while at University was a course called the Bible as Literature. That was decades ago, but I learned more about the Bible and literature than most of my other courses. The Bible is fundamental to literature. Nothrup Frye understood this in his book The Great Code, which I highly recommend. Yet, if you ask most graduate students today what's the importance the Bible has towards literature and the understanding of literature they might call you a right wind nut.
You are. After all you are part of the collective who believes that western civilization and christianity are superior to everything else. It's also the roots from where white supremacists comes from - the 3 goes hands in hands.
@@thedissidentleftist6997 Well America was founded upon Christian principles and in less than 300 years it became the dominant superpower in the world that people from all over the plant come to, I’d say yeah it’s superior in almost every way
@@thedissidentleftist6997 the Bible should have been an introduction to older texts. But that’s only the case for those seeking greater understanding. People who just want to confirm beliefs they were raised in will never venture past the Bible into the texts that created the Bible. Crazy how many people think the garden of Eden was the creation of intelligent life on earth when the Bible clearly shows it ain’t.
I gotta admit. He’s much smarter than me so sometimes I struggle to keep up, but towards the end when he started talking about how deep the rabbit hole of truth and reality go, and how when you remove all of your pre existing beliefs and look at it objectively….the Bible has given us fundamental and objective truth…that blew my mind lol.
While the Bible holds significance in the Western world, it's important to acknowledge that various ancient texts predate it, contributing to diverse cultural and intellectual traditions globally. Asserting its exclusivity as the "first book" can perpetuate a limited perspective. Discussions should consider multiple historical and cultural viewpoints to foster a more comprehensive understanding, helping to avoid reinforcing biased ideologies such as atrocities carried out under the guise of the white mans burden and perpetuated by the papal bulls.
This is so mind blowing... imagine if every creature in society practiced what Mr. Jordan is saying about fundamental truth. Each one of us, before jumping to conclusions and scoffing at every idea foreign to our own, would sample the idea presented, consider it, try it out, and see if it is true. What a different world we would live in with every person, great and small, being heard and understood... not necessarily agreed with, but understood.
Quinn Nelms Yeah lol idk why he would want every person to follow Dr. Peterson lol. If every single person had the 10 commandments written on his heart from birth the relationships between humans on this earth would be flawless.
Well Jesus Christ in Jordan's words through Jung represents the absolute pinnacle of what one man can do at its extreme lengths. That is known as an Archetype. Even JC said it's all within us should we seek to find. Jordan is how some say "being the light you want to see in the world." Leading by example hence his amazingly helpful books and his implacable word. You are 100% right brother. That's the end game but it's all starts with each and every individual first. This is how the world you are saying will form. Keep it real and keep it up ✌🙏💖 Love from Melbourne Australia to all the brothers and sisters out there.
I Called on you at my lowest point Lord, you heard me and rescued me from all my pain and fears. I will remember that and give you praise all the days of my life. Prayers going up for everyone to beat any struggle they face in our Lord Jesus Christ Mighty Name. Call on God in prayer and tell him your needs, fears, and anything you might be going through, ask for his help in Jesus name. God is a great friend in times of trouble. ✌🏽🙏🏽❤ Love yall
@@lukem2260 Your laughing at an actual real life experience that another person had. Not an opinion, not a story, not what I think, but at something that actually happened in my life, which still happened weather you believe it or not. Its Your life, and your choice, but you should Repent of your old ways, and research about Jesus , so that you have a better understanding of who he is, what he did, and why we all need to accept him as our Lord. The Bible tells us that Jesus is the only way to the father in heaven. It's worth taking the time know him while we are still alive and still have that chance because once our body dies, Our souls will go somewhere, either Heaven or hell, and eternity is a long time to spend in hell. Please pick up a bible and read it, it will literally save your life. ✌🏽🙏🏽
@@HydraulicJack hey David, thank you for your msg, I appreciate that you cared enough to write me and help me with my wording, thanks for your kindness and your well written msg. I'd like to start by saying that i will definitely be praying for him as I do for everyone in this world because of the new Love I have found for all Gods children through what I've learned from Jesus in the Bible. I want to explain that My telling him about Hell was not a suggestion, Hell is the harsh reality that We will all face if we don't repent from our ways and accept Jesus as our Lord and savior. It would have been Harsh if I held that info from him knowing it can potentially help him rather then not say anything and let him continue on that path that leads to hell, that would be harsh. Belive it or not, but my telling him about hell is out of Love so that hes aware now and can change while he still has time. Jesus brought the same msg to everyone in this world so that we would be saved, not because he hates us, but because he loved us so much that he told us these things ahead of time so that we would be aware and make the neccessary changes that would lead us to being saved while we still have the time, that's Love. For example, if I had a little brother who was driving down a road and I knew there was danger ahead, if I loved him I would talk to him and warn him of that danger so he can avoid injury or death. I would tell him that because I love my brother and wouldn't want him to end up injured or dead. If I didn't love him, then I would not say anything, which would end in injury or death for him. How would I feel then, knowing I could have saved my brother if I only had told him what lies ahead? I hope that makes sense, that's where I was coming from. Have a great night, God bless you, and thank you for the well wishes, Lord knows I need it ✌🏽🙏🏽
“The Bible is the precondition for the manifestation of truth” Masterfully worded. The Bible is, or should be, the lens through which we view the world. It’s not just true, it’s the foundation of what we call true. Without it truth would be in the eye of the beholder, and the beholders are fundamentally flawed humans that are notoriously bad at acknowledging unbiased and unfettered truth. Which is why we need a perfect and holy God to impart to us the truth as He intended it.
Jordan talking about his brother in law Jim Keller designing AI chips, how Jim said they're going to be way more revolutionary than the Internet... We've started to see it. 😬
So basically, he’s saying what we all already knew…the Bible is a fairytale book written to advance the cause of WP and thereafter, cement and solidify WS for however long it has lasted. But, as he well knows, the lies of Western Civilization are on their last legs.
The world hated you first? Why, the world hardly knows you. But saying things such as that does argue for the possibility that, the more “the world” gets to know you, the more opportunity for you to be more hated by it will be. Unless of course you were throwing out an unattributed quote about somebody you are jealous of being more hated by the world than yourself. Just have patience, and good luck.
@@joehellno9097 he's not speaking about himself, it was Jesus who said: "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you."
@@rules4life337 Translation: Of course this man is very brilliant. I was saying in comparison to Biden, Harris or Trudeau, there is no comparison. They are the most useless leaders of all time...
Jordan just tapped us with his sack quite literally. It was a clean tap right across the dome. He explained the pinnacle of everything which was the structure category. And the root point of everything being the Bible. Unbelievable.
I know but what else can Joe do, this man is limited to the English language. Imagine how much more complex is actual thoughts and thought processes are.
Joe isn't ready to battle an intellect of Dr. Petersons' level. Besides that, Joe hates Christianity and cannot accept that someone so intelligent could embrace THE Bible as THE truth.
@@outdoorsadventurer I think your referring to a rant he made a long time ago. He’s said in recent years, he isn’t a believer but thinks the principles are good.
@@gabemoon9644 I appreciate your civil response to me, thank you! I'm not the biggest Rogan fan but he is funny a lot of the time. I'm glad to hear he has backed off his former stance, if true. He should approach it like Ghandi did, 'I love their Jesus I don't care for their Christians'. Not really an exact quote but pretty close.
Two off topic observations: 1. He really dressed up for this. 2. How cool is it that Jordan Peterson’s brother-in-law is the guy that sets off the Terminator timeline? I mean, who saw that one coming?
Greatest thing you can do! I knew a lady one time who was suffering from anxiety etc.. And she called a elder in the church and told her what she was facing. This great elder told her "Just read your Bible until you love it" She did what she was told and now nearly 25 years later she no longer struggles with anxiety. The Bible says in Isaiah 26:3 "Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee."
This argument kind of falls apart when you think about it. The Bible might have been the first massively popular book printed and bound, but it was far from the first hugely influential set of stories and philosophy. For that you can thank the ancient Greeks. Of course, non Western cultures also have myths and philosophies that significantly pre-date the Bible. That isn’t to say the Bible isn’t vastly influential. But to argue that it is the very lens through which we perceive reality, or the substance of our reality, is a huge stretch considering places like India, where the Bible has no influence yet they are still a largely peaceful democracy that likes good food, job security and going to the movies as much as we do.
You should read "Dominion" by Tom Holland. It's written by an atheist, but claims pretty much the opposite of what you're saying. Here's a video of him. th-cam.com/video/favILmUsVdg/w-d-xo.html
Yes, most ideas encoded in the bible are derived from even older texts and stories like in the epic of gilgamesh. So it is not the bible but an even older orginial first text. But Ithink in general what he says about there being an original story shared between all of us and ingrained in all of the human condition holds true.
This is a really good point. Keep in mind as well that Jordan Petersn has recently converted to Christianity. This kind of argument seems to align with the whole "Christians vs savages" idea. It also ignores the relative peace of other societies as you say, such as First Nation societies. I tendto argue that the bible was influenced by underlying natural common human beliefs that still exist today. And those beliefs were what allows the bible to remain relevant for such a long time.
I love having these types of conversations. I wish I knew more people willing to go this deep Edit: To everyone saying the ideas Jordan is speaking of are bs: the accuracy of ideas being shared is not as relevant to me as much as the willingness to think so deeply about a particular subject. Who cares if you’re wrong. Don’t be afraid to think deeply and share those thoughts. If they turn out to be wrong, oh well, no big deal. Take the correction & use the new information to go down another rabbit hole.
@@lukec5623 what he's describing is how in our universe things are connected whether it be barely at all or super connected point is there's a connection. All the connections from human thought and language stems from the perception of the bible
@@jvvlbeats It's easy to see Jordan Peterson philosophy; He believes in bringing order and positivity into the meaning of life by welcoming the believe in God. As Jordan Peterson logically claims that without belief in God, we are left with nihilism, and mostly negativety. Therefore he seems to strongly support the belief in God for this reason. That doesn't mean to say that believe in God Is true, it just means according to Jordon Peterson, that it supports a more positive order in the meaning of life by believing in God.
@@jvvlbeats there are regions in the universe that are completely disconnected from ours, but I get that point. What he says about the bible though is utter nonsense. He's just not making a lot of sense in general.
@@jvvlbeats the bible is really not that special. There are many influential writings and the bible itself is a collection of stories from older cultures. Like the Iliad or other mythological texts.
Sounds gay. Jokes asides, JBP is one of the shallowest philosophers I know. If his message will and can heal anybody I support that and I'm happy for it, but understanding basic concepts like buddhism, natural healing, shamanism, christianity and ancient greek philosophy can be a lot more fulfilling because you understand the roots. *Buddhism:* Let go, practice emptiness and find your peace. *Natural healing:* Follow your balance and grow the way you want to grow. *Shamanism:* Achieve deeper states of your consciousness to understand the world you are living in. *Christianity:* Accept Jesus as your savior, because he died for you sins and live in respect for selflessness. *Ancient Greek Philosophy:* Find your clarity and share it with others. Abstract ideas as a set of rules for society.
@@pikpik42 the only problem is most of those exist as a way themselves, sure you can sample them for "the best parts" but then you're contradicting the meaning of most of those texts because they are dependent upon themselves being the truth.
@@bulkyy Understanding that the core to wisdom is healing and balance was the main key for me. From then you can just compare different methods of enlightenment and their ways of working.
@@pikpik42 "enlightenment" is bullshit, you're just teaching yourself to connect your brain and body to feel more balanced and in control. Basic biology, nothing wrong with religion but acting like you can make some super religion out of everything is pretty stupid as they usually contradict each other heavily
@@bulkyy Easy there buddy, no need to be insulting. Enlightenment is not religion based and as you said it is about connecting mind and body. This process of clarification and felt clarity is called enlightenment in many different cultures from buddhism to european renaissance. Like I said, the main key is healing and healing in german (where I come from) in the word "Heil" is connected to "heilig" like holy. I don't want to make up a super religion, I want to learn from culture and develop as a person.
Everyone here saying Joe is an amazing interviewer because he lets his guest talk, but I'm sure he's just quiet because he's trying to figure out the complexity of what Jordan is saying just like the rest of us! 😂
I am not sure how long into the interview this was, but there has got to be a mental exhaustion at some point to try to process all the information being thrown at you like this as well. Jordan has spent a long time thinking about these ideas, big ideas and for someone to try to grasp that all at once has gotta be mentally challenging for anyone.
It's been said here already, but worth repeating, Joe's strength is allowing his guests to complete a thought without sensational interruptions. Most talk show hosts won't allow a guest to complete a sentence without interruption... no coherent thoughts allowed. Good work Joe, we appreciate you.
@Orca Lol, true
You don't Joe's silence was simply couldn't grasp the ramblings of a mad man?
@@Steinborn24 What?
@@Steinborn24 What?
@@Mr_Daddy1980 Ive a master of divinity, study New Testament and theology and what Peterson was saying is non-sense. The fact that the king James version of the Bible is woven through western literature has everything to do with the dictates of power mixed with a bit of luck.
“I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.”
~C. S. Lewis
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what a load of horse shit if you don't mind my saying.
Time to get the Dizzle in Joe Rogan podcast
Love your channel, watch it regularly, keep up the good work!
My grandpa has read his Bible every night before bed. Many different Bibles. I asked him to sum up what the bible tells us. He said "the bible proves one thing, that man will fail himself and resort back to needing a god."
100 percent
@@ZippyG God tells us to love each other as he loves us. it’s important to know that no matter how many times we pray, or fast, if we’re dead and evil within our hearts nothing matters. try to learn to speak WITH God not TO God.
@@BostonsVeryOwn. I see the connective consciousness all around as well, synchronicity’s and phrases, vibes ppl n energy all around is everything I can feel and see it. But the devil can sway away with temptation’s so I stay cautious.
Well it’s that man’s sin is great but god’s grace is greater and he deserves all the glory bc he is holy
I hate to like this.
I love Jordan’s willingness to always learn and self aware enough to change his own interpretations. God bless him.
Exactly
True 👍!
Amen
watch a clip on youtube where gabo mate speaks about jordan peterson
Me too!
i love how jordan is asking himself questions and answering them and joe's just sitting there in silence 😆
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That's a tactic for explaining hard things to those who aren't at the place to ask the right questions themselves to understand what you're trying to explain to them. Many great teachers I've seen do it.
Joe is not a idiot, he's naturally a open book you just need to write the ink. He is gaining endless wisdom the best way possible. Even if they are wrong he gains a insight
It's called teaching...
Joe Rogan is an A-class example of great communication skills. First beginning with LISTENING! Respect.
Not always my man. Sometimes, mostly in years past he was pretty bad about interrupting.
@@bri0013 There's only truly *Now. Past and future do not exist. Currently he is a great communicator and an example too for others.
@@tasospelou8630 well technically your comment is already from yesteday, so you are officially talking about the past 😁 The past and future do exist, unless you wrote your comment "now" instead of "yesteday"
I agree and William F. BUCKLEY Jr., too.
@@SantiYounger You cannot live off of yesterday's oxygen, nor breakfast. We are only, truly, ever here, now, come and join us dear fellow x
What a blessing to see Dr. Jordan B. Peterson back on Joe Rogan. Grateful to see his health restored and back to full health sharing some new eye opening revelations that he has gained throughout the years. The most admirable part of his story is his continued growth in the process. So many people get stuck in their ways and are unable to continuously grow with the time and new information. Dr. Peterson shows that regardless of the age you are never too old to learn.
@@TheFearmoths yeah it must be his fault for incoherent rambling rather than you just don’t understand.
What else could it be?
@@TheFearmoths you're pretty dense eh?
@@darylingoteborg3178 Peterson is most definitely off his rocker but hey more power to him and you hope you get what your looking for.
@@TheFearmoths yikes get help
@@TheFearmoths I fully agree. Tangential and run on.
Jordan is simultaneously the professor/philosopher and a wide eyed student. The ultimate feedback loop.
True. It never ends.
Seeking more knowledge and remaining curious is how you learn….
That's how we learn 😁🙏
@@ryandeskar1555wisdom and understanding scream out from the mountains but people pay her no mind.
The beauty of seeking knowledge and learning is that knowledge gained expands your horizon of ignorance. In that the more one learns the more one realizes there is more to be learnt, thus it's a constant progression that requires humility and courage.
I love how Joe asks questions, but knows when to just let guests speak..He does it better than any other platform, kudos Joe💯
I agree, but fans of other podcasts would disagree. Literally every other podcast on youtube would have a commenter who would say the same thing you did.
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Yeah honestly he's the best interviewer in the world for multiple reasons/skills but that one really makes the thinking person stop and appreciate the hell out of Joe
He's stoned so he just zones out
ok?....
Jordan Peterson: The most proficient air piano conductor of the 21st century. I've seen less hand gestures in sign language school.
LOL great comment 🤣
I'd like to see the worlds greatest air type writer vs the worlds greatest air piano player, I predict there will be more finger licking action going on
@@GrowingDownUnder clean your room
You should see Trump play the air accordian
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You're going to give Ethan Klein a heart attack with this episode.
Good
Hopefully
Ethan doesnt really care. its just for drama content. he has nothing else to do on his shows. and im a h3 fan. its all drama nowadays and issues
Nah he’s fine cause he doesn’t have to “think about it dude”
What will we do without men!?!?
Joe Rogan is great at interviewing. His ability to fit in with nearly any guest he has and decipher when he should listen and when he should speak is his greatest gift to our modern media. Glad to see Peterson is doing well and appears to have recovered quite well. It's always interesting to hear him speak.
Much ado about nothing...
Agreed! Rogan's knack for engaging with diverse guests is unparalleled. Peterson's recovery is inspiring, his insights always enlightening.
Joe's looking at him thinking, "I should not have smoked before this show."
hm, he rather thought "You should not have taken opiates before this show."
YES! do not smoke, or else your brain will also turn to mush and you'll stop making any sense at all, and just ramble on and on about structures.....
@@andrabook8758 nailed it
@@natetuohy2615 lol
so funny. to the contrary he smoked and thought: oh these words make me high: pre-condition, perception, low resolution
This was great, 4 hrs zipped by.
I kicked booze and pills 18 years ago.
Life is better now because quitting was hard.
Hang tough to all bros out there quitting bad habits.
Were you addicted to booze?
Dammit man… I just bought some EJ booze..
Gotta quit dude…
Right On!
Living the struggle
@@timothyandrewnielsen more than likely, I find it hard to believe he was addicted to pills and not booze.
Jordan is such an unusual person. As he speaks, his own thoughts are playing off of each other, so he's constantly deriving new understandings from his own notions tumbling around and through each other. You have to let him speak, even if it takes several minutes to complete a thought, and what you get at the end is often some amazing epiphany.
Jordan is a student of life who will never stop learning until he dies.
People with brains like Dr. Peterson do way better writing their thoughts. When they speak, everything from all corners of memory on the given topic want up front at the same time. He does remarkably well in both. The guy is sharp.
Jeez, Why do you JP sheep try so hard to emulate his manner of speech in your comments 🤣. It's pretty weird.
@@steven95N "jeez" "sheep"
Well aren't we the word wizard of originality.......thanks for the laughter
I imagine it’s that they are very easily impressed with themselves… because they do pick up the gist of what J. P. is trying to say. What I question is why don’t they see the obvious - “A very insecure, ageing male who wakes up daily asking himself - “Is today the day I jump off the cliff”.
@@rdutch1958 No, it's "Is this the last day of my life?" He asks the questions most Humans are afraid to.
How wonderful to be able to witness modern day philosophers discuss great ideas such as Truth. God bless you both.
Had
True 👍
HOW DARE YOU say “God bless you”!!! You sky daddy religiotard!! You should be praying to SCIENCE and saying “Karl Marx bless you”!! You are childish to believe in such children’s stories like believing in the Easter bunny and santa clause!! You should not be watching these fakesters you should be watching REAL educational content like ancient aliens and Rick and Morty!!! STOP BELIEVING IN A 2,000 YEAR OLD BOOK! Maybe then you will be as enlightened and as intellectually unique as us knowledgeable and distinguished atheists! You’ve been logic’d!
(I know for most of you, you’ll know this is a joke, but for those who don’t, yeah it’s a joke)
Nothing true about the bible
@@Collins170 blasphemy
This reunion was long overdue. I'm so glad that our good Doctor is back in good health and continuing his legacy of helping people and making us think.
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Dude, reboot, your head's corrupted.
*o not 0
you ok?
Yahweh the demiurge?
“Dr Peterson, what’s your favorite color?"
“Well that depends on what you mean by favorite. And it also depends on what you mean by color. This is a very complex question...
One must acknowledge the underlying verisimilitude that is irrevocably nested within a multi-layered metaphysical substrate which many people fundamentally conflate with their ideological presuppositions with uncertain irregularity, the very byproduct of Jung's extrapolation of the archetypal and axiomatic juxtaposition of Raskolnikov's neo-Marxist existential nihilism.
With that said... I've written a 600 page book on the subject, which unpacks the uninformative intimations with absolute precision, both biologically and metaphysically..."
You forgot that after reading that book, you still don't have an answer, because it's all word salad filler.
This is brilliant.
Well said . I bet most of his followers don’t understand most of what he says. Part of being genius is to explain complex ideas in simpler terms so everyone can understand . Not everyone has the luxury to study philosophy or other complicated ideas.
I’m 💀 🤣
Hhhaa!!
This is genuinely one of the most profound ideas I've come across. In this sense, the content of what lies within the Bible becomes the LIVING word as we collectively digest it. As someone who does not identify as a Christian, but is wholeheartedly connected to an active and deeply connected experience of God/Grace, this idea resonates. I wonder if we can't also apply the notion that we are living out so many plot-lines these days, as so many of our works of fiction--their very story lines--are coming to fruition all around us. What a time to be alive. Co-creators in an ever expansive universe, our future hinging on the capacity of collective imagining.
The bible explained it all. We became co-creators once God commanded Adam to name the beasts of the field. Look up Jordan petersons lectures on this topic. Its mind-blowing. There has never and will never be a wisdom as such in the Bible. Infinitely deep.
Grace without truth is to indulge our selfish human nature. Truth without grace is at its best mean and can be downright destructive to our soul. The living word of scripture is designed to be truth with grace. Only our loving Father in heaven can give us both. I’m a Christian because Jesus Yeshua, came here to give me ultimate grace. I put all my hope and trust in His finished work on the cross because the truth is I will fail but He did not. Please open your heart to Jesus message of truth and grace. Give His infinite love a chance. God bless you.
uh huh...
You know the saying "you are what you eat" well the mind is the same for word.
Joes face- "im not high enough for this, also im way underdressed. Have you ever smoked a frog?"
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Lol after listening to that it sounded like Jordan was the one who was high
@@ajithzam1 right I never heard him spew that hardcore of bs. I see what he's saying and that makes it worse.
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Joe's head exploded within the first five seconds 🤯
My favorite thing about Joe is how he honors people by listening to them.
Yes. Hei is awesome.🙌🏼🙌🏾💜
It's because he has not got a fucking clue what JP was talking about, and tbh, neither did I?
@@WayneDavisqotm exactly 😂😂😂
Well since Jordan speaks so abstract and off subject at times I don't blame him for saying nothing.
He doesnt always do that. He gets worked up quick.
We waited for a new Jordan Peterson episode! 👏😌
Now I have to go to Spotify because ain't no way I'm not listening to the whole conversation.
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@@Zachhatesyoutube Are you done mopping that floor on aisle 5 yet, junior? Maybe i'm giving too much credit that you would have a job? Lol pseudo intellectual.
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@@Zachhatesyoutube All intellectuals are pseudo. They should lay bricks every once in a while.
To summarize. There is one truth. That Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. He is the son of man.
This is just 4 minutes of an over 4 hours long podcast. What a ride we're about to be in store for...
@Flower No i did not miss it at all.
Nah couldn't watch jordan talk more shit
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How do you know? Where can I watch the whole thing>?
@@shefchenko111 Spotify
Jordan Peterson can literally sit for hours and explain something to himself.
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It's the result of introversion and a high level of intelligence.
If only you could think so thoroughly yourself.
He’s like coke if coke was human
It certainly seems that way when he is speaking with Joe.
JK Joe.
THIS is the stuff I want to hear Peterson talk about...His time and energy is so often wasted on fighting social justice warrior type arguments which is quite honestly just a waste of his mind. May as well inspire new novel thoughts in open-minded people than to try and change the minds of those who are uninterested and lazy thinkers.
I disagree. I think we need both sides of Dr. Peterson. We need his intellect and reason to fight the plague that is Progressivism. But we also need his deep thoughts on stuff like this to guide us into a deeper understanding of life.
agree, we need him back at continuing his biblical series. next is exodus story, we only want what we were promised, nothing more lol
@@divinecomedian2 lmao think for yourself bro. You don't need people to tell you how to think
He makes brain rejoice.
@@divinecomedian2 you cannot f9ght ignorance. They don't want to understand.
Jesus = Truth, Therefore bible is as well. Choose wisely.
Yes, of course, The Bible is The Word of God; Jesus IS The Word; Jesus was like a walking, talking Bible while He was here on Earth in the physical.
Joe goes into every interview trying to learn. This is why he is such a good listener. He never thinks he knows everything and always is aware he could learn more.
Nah he just stoned
Just like me! And let me tell you why! Oh, shit… sorry. :-/
Well said
I think Joe more than half the guys he gives air to. Wonder how many pay him for it, and such. But considering the big media gave him tons to "own" him is rich. Many very liberal people I know who openly dislike Rogan and guys like JP do make a point. It does seem big media, even Lib media, isn't anti-Rogan... it seems to want to buy them out and major critics and wannabe cancelers are the ones who get dropped. I found it funny how everything is still about making old rich men even richer and more powerful.
New Covenant Whole Gospel:
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by
husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
Watch the TH-cam videos “The New Covenant” by Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
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Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?
What did Peter say below?
Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Act 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?
Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
“baptize” KJV
Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
I have listened to this 8 times trying to convince myself I’ve fully understood what he just said.
thats the exact concept he’s trying to explain
I was about to close the video thinking that he's just trying to seem smart, but than I caught up to him - basically surprised by myself than anything 😅
And the theory about bible being true because of it being a foundation for tons of linguistic content is at least curious
In short: If I scream, every echo, no matter how musical might sound is still just a scream.
There are echos of the collective unconscious (Carl Jung) and the hero’s journey (Joseph Campbell) in this argument. The more you dig into those ideas the more what is being said will hit home
Nah he's a nonce.
Thank you Joe for never interrupting guests and letting them talk. You are awesome!!! Hang in there with the stupid media. We all love you out here!!
The old Joe rogan did this a lot. He's grown a lot
@@rowenakers8712 na, he's still the same size.
Joe has no fucking clue what he’s saying
@@vitolibido no no no, YOU dont have a clue as to what your saying, joe is actually very wise and intellectual. He simply did nit want to interrupt
@@rowenakers8712 so damn true
The more I listen to Peterson, the wiser I feel especially, when he talks about Religion & God. Actually, he's the reason why I'm not an atheist anymore, so thank you Jordan for existing on this Earth. Regarding the Bible, there should be a black pope as Wars and climate changes continue spreading all over the world according to the Bible. Besides, I've talked someone, who reads the Bible more than me, about all of this and to my surprise, we both agreed. Therefore, I wasn´t that wrong about the existence of this black pope.
Just my opinion but I believe that when you take something complicated and make it more complicated you have accomplished nothing... however those that can take something complicated and simplify it to where all types of intellect can understand you're on a different level of intelligence
being able to explain something for all intellect does not make you more intelligent. it makes you a great teacher. you could be the most intelligent person but lack the ability to communicate your own understanding to others.
So math is pointless?
This was very well said!!
@@dawsonb2901 i think you guys both have good points
I agree with you 100%, although people tend to complicate explanations aiming to look smarter or to be accepted by a few...its is the ability to solve or break problems into easier tasks, its all about perspective
You can tell Jordan is/was a teacher. He keeps it going with or without a response lol
True and he also appears to read the listener's face for comprehension rather than agreement.
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It’s hilarious!! 😂 😆
He’s a teacher at heart
Perferably no response
lecture minded- brilliant for podcasting
Joe is so good at letting his guests talk at the right times. He’s great at knowing when to cut in and ask questions and when to let his guests teach him. There’s a lot of podcasters that have trouble with this.
He’s also very good with focus on subject + placement of conversation, in goggins one he kept guiding him thru and back to the points leading to him and many other guests telling their story on point, he has some what mastered a lot of skills ppl don’t notice.
Joe's skillful balance between guiding the conversation and letting guests shine sets him apart. Other podcasters could learn from his approach.
Oldest text of all time- “In the beginning there was the Word. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.”
Yes the word is god. Be careful what you speak for all things are created from the word cuz the word is god and nothing is created without it.
What an honor it must be for Joe to be the only student in Jordan Peterson's class this day.
How many views on Spotify did this podcast get …… that’s how many students were in class this day
@@travismiller7596 I was going to say something similar dr. Peterson's classrooms no longer brick and mortar it's anywhere the internet reaches
We were all students today.
@@tonyshaw7420 UoT was only holding him back anyway. His platform has far surpassed an institution like that could dream of making.
@@user-vr5zk9ox8d very true 👍
jordan was playing an imaginary piano while talking to Joe about the bible, what a savage
I think he was typing.
Lmfaoo
I can't unsee that now😳! 😅
Nah he was playing a 3 level keyboard in a prog band.
I cannot unsee that now! 🤣
The first Jordan Peterson interview changed my life. Finally someone else in academics who saw what was going on and was willing to say something, and who had a lot more to offer than criticism.
hear hear
Working in academia is not an easy thing to do these days. JP's article about why he retired earlier was completely accurate about what is happening to academia.
@@lowrecoil You had to write the most awkard EDI Statement, too, eh? Bragging about how much you care? It made me feel so slimy.
@Zack from the North Trying putting together a coherent sentence and explain to me why you think he was wrong about the current state of academia. Let's have a conversation.
@@Jtgagemac EDI statements, unconscious bias training, losing out job competitions to under-qualified EDI candidates (and being told as such off the record), being the victim of harassment, ridicule and stereotypes behavior that would otherwise be called racist and not allowed if my skin color was not so light because of course you cannot be racist towards white people. The list goes on...
I can’t be the only one that watched this and said afterward “what the hell did that even mean?!”
Right?!
To put it simpley, since primitive man, literature has influenced other literature and the Bible was one of if not The first book. It influenced other literature and so on. Just look at it like the evolution of culture and literature and the Bible is at the base
Here’s what a conversation with Jordan Peterson is like……..
A. Introduces Idea
B. Explains a word or two in idea 1 in further detail
C. Gives a story based upon the abstraction of those 1-2 words
D. His brain goes off on a tangent related to an idea he had when telling the story and solving his own problem out loud.
E. We find out D is not a tangent but actually another subpoint to C
F. Repeats this whole process a few more times
G. Wraps em the whole conversation bringing together the layering of all these points very precisely and strategically in one large narrative helping us realize he is not crazy and he did in fact have a point.
Although it is often "G."in the case of JP yes; in this case he falls into the pit of not realizing that he doesn't understand that monotheism was built for the only sake of forming state hierarchy. Libertarian/conservative atheists (I guess we are mostly in Europe) have no problem understanding that; there would be no North korean commie dictatorship without monotheist cultism through history (like the pharaohs deified themselves, so did the NK ruler family). The step up from that to an invisible fantasy god isn't a large step. But it controls people.
He probably did. Somewhere in all that🤣
@@eugenedaubermann5561 😂🤣😂🤣🤣
If you say so. Does he really wrap up the conversation with a "precise and strategic" narrative? I would say absolutely not. Hes a bore. Why can't he just explain things without going off on some silly dialogue that makes no sense when he could just explain an idea without all the BS? If you're really impressed by the way he teaches then you probably haven't listened to many really good teachers. He's somewhat of a fraud as far as I'm concerned.
@@ScottH. makes no sense to you? 👀
Also about your simple answer comment, there’s no simple answer to a complex question, why? Because often times, a simple answer giving as antidote to a complex question will be misunderstood!
Also how should he then explain the totality of the idea without bringing up something to anchor it on?
And again, why call him a bore? Just because you don’t like his method of teaching doesn’t make it any less interesting.
There are people who think that cricket is more interesting to watch than soccer, or basketball, that doesn’t make them any less interesting!
And finally if you want to call out someone or make a case about them, you should have logical reasons to do so, so you don’t come off as a hater or more bitter than your comment already let on.
Weird to think that I was first introduced to JP while watching Joe. Years later watching him now it's feels full circle.
same with me. i ate well rounded food as a baby .now im eating well rounded food again. full circle baby!
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Same both are legends, thanks to joe for showing us this man.
Same!
Peterson is one of the few guests that turns a 'talk' show into a 'listen' show.
Boom, focus. . .
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Verbose and articulate, He is a blessing to this generation.
Also Neil deGrasse Tyson, cause you can't get a word in
I kinda feel bad for Peterson, it seems like his drug addiction has messed up his brain... there was a few times where he made absolutely no sense.
That description of how we use the word as a filter to see the truth in situations around us is crazy accurate.
I love how Joe just let's people talk. He doesn't interrupt every 5 seconds so that we have to listen to him for 90% of the show.
I like it too, but he almost seemed like he was on downers or needed sleep for this interview.
There is a reason for that, if he could he would
thats why he is bigger than CNN and FOx
That really depends on the guest to be fair.
@@fefemcgee3757 With Petersons lengthy rants that's understandable
"I just figured this out this week"...the reason why Jordan is so great and knowledgable is because he is always continually learning, you never know it all folks
I think he is in need of very much more learning.
@@robert-parsifal-finch We all are as op said, but why did you feel the need to say it again as an insult?
JP is the definition of a pseudo-intellectual. The only people who think he is smart are people incapable of critical thinking.
@@Kanglar what about this clip upset you?
My late father used to say: "The day that you stop learning is the day you die." So, so very true...
Jordan: shows up in tuxedo
Joe Rogan: shows up in t-shirt
Jordan: Am I a joke to you, Bucko?
Tuxedo is a terrible look, id rather see him in a classic black suit like fridman wears
and then jon danaher turns up in a rashguard to really kick off a debate
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4:19
It isn’t that the Bible is true. It’s that the Bible is the precondition for the manifestation of truth. Which makes it way more true than just true. It’s a whole different kind of true. And I think this is not only literally the case, factually I think it can’t be any other way. It’s the only way we can solve the problem of perception.
- Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
Easy version from C.S. Lewis: “I believe in Christianity as I believe that the Sun has risen, not only because I see it but because by it, I see everything else.”
Lol I used to hear this quote all the time when I went to a Christian school… sounds nice but really doesn’t say anything… what’s the connection or correlation of this big ball of fire gas illuminating the world/what we see around us have to do with Christianity specifically?
@@chrisgertz33 if you’re really a Christian, you’ll see patterns of good vs evil all over the world. You’ll see the destructive consequences of lust, pride and greed as examples
@@chrisgertz33 well Jordan just explained this the whole video . The sun rising shows you people are waking up, starting work, 6am is based upon that, the word morning us based upon that , breakfast literally ur idea of "starting your day" is bas we upon it. The Bible I get saddened by murders why ? Not only because lives are lost because the Bible teaches us about why it's wrong. The year you live in based upon the Bible,law , food EVERYTHING. It's like me bring black, o just view the world differently than other races. Regardless of what I change or feel
@@Obamnaz You don’t have to be a Christian to recognize these things. Just a morally sound human being that’s perceptive enough to recognize the evils of the world
@@ExecutionerHopkins Speak for yourself. I’m not a believer yet I was raised by good people who encouraged me to do good things. The people you speak of are evil people with an evil agenda, though I doubt that’s due to their lack of belief in Christ. Western Europe is predominantly Christian. I hope you realize simply believing in the teachings of the Bible doesn’t make you a good person. People choose not to act on those teachings while being fully aware of them. Some of the most cruel acts in history were committed by religious men.
Peterson asks his own questions because he’s gotten too used to dumb questions by incompetent interviewers XD
'If I want better questions, I gotta ask them myself.' 🤣
JP is talking nonsense. Upanishads the Hindu sacred treatises were written in Sanskrit c. 800-200 BC, expounding the Vedas in predominantly mystical and monistic terms. And then there are the Yogic Sciences written more than 10,000 years ago. JP's claim the Bible is the "first book wriiten" is laughable. It is very much like Columbus "dicovering " America.
There are million interpretation of the Bible and JP's is one of them.
Bible is a book full of absurdities, make believe stories and bizarre happenings. Compared to the Bible, the story of "Jack and the Beanstalk" seems real.
Peterson is just another Right -Wing hack. Nothing intelligent ever comes out of this mans mouth.
Tekken and Yu the only dumb question is the one you dont ask.
@@lawratify You are right, but Peterson does say "from the perspective of Western civilisation" so he does clarify his point.
Imagine if all men were understanding and open to understand basic things like this and explode and explore their own thoughts this way and with others on a daily basis, I think the world would be a much better place
Absolutely. There has to be open dialogue.
@@dareneq1 I agree with your sentiment, but Jordan Peterson is basically a fake intellectual. Society is just mega dumbed down... So he seems like a genius because he's confident and uses higher register. The man is a sophist. You want genius? Read Plato.
Bro write a cohesively structured sentence, then tell men what to do 😂
I disagree slightly. I personally think this type of open though conversation has resulted in a very confused Jordan having a vocal conjecture with himself while he is trying to make sense of what he has just said. He just beat around the bush and his final statement wasn’t as much convincing as it was a pleasure to watch the struggle end.
Here are some facts and may God Almighty guide our hearts to the truth and keep us steadfast always. Ameen.
Muslims believe Jesus pbuh was a mighty messenger of God who submitted his will to Allah (God) and was only sent to the lost tribe of Israel not to the whole of humanity as even stated in parts of the bible.
Jesus pbuh never once claimed to be God and say "worship me and 2 other deities im part of a trion God" anywhere in the bible (if that was the case wouldnt rationality dictate for him to make that openly clear and upfront?!!). The trinity's something that was added in the 4th century by church fathers who couldn't agree to add it in till then.
Jesus pbuh was born of a miraculous birth (without a biological father) by the will of Allah (God) and was able to perform miracles by the permission of the Almighty as proof to the lost tribe of Israel that he is indeed a prophet of God sent to them to warn them to give up idolatry and mischief as did other prophets before him such as Moses pbuh who also performed miracles by the will and permission of the Almighty (He split the sea) and to worship One God alone without any partners.
We Muslims believe that Adam pbuh is humanity's father and the first Muslim and prophet of God on earth, he was born of a more miraculous birth than Jesus pbuh (no father or mother).
Islam means submission (also means peace) is not a new religion, its the religion of all previous messengers who all submitted and preached the same message which is to worship One God alone with no partners as Jesus pbuh said he did not come to abolish the law.
Jesus pbuh worshipped God alone, did he not say "the father is greater than i" did he also not say "hear o Israel the lord OUR God is one"?!!.
Jesus pbuh did not want to be killed or sacrificed for anyone's sins as it is Almighty God alone who can forgive any sin by accepting one's true repentance if he wishes as his mercy incompasses everything. Proof of that in the Garden of Gethsemane when Jesus pbuh fell to his face in prayer to Almighty Allah and asked: "please take this cup of suffering away from me". We Muslims believe Allah answered Jesus's prayer and saved him from his to be murderers by elevating him back up to heaven and what was on the cross was only made to appear to the criminals as such by the will of God. We also await his second coming where he will come to kill the anti christ, destroy the cross and affirm Islam and the Qur'an as the final revelation/legislation. He will marry and live a normal life till he dies.
Proof of the coming of the prophet Mohamed pbuh is also mentioned in the bible where it says in John 16:12 "i have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
[13] Howbeit when HE, the Spirit of truth (thats the prophet Mohamed pbuh, if you read his biography he was always known as the truthful one) is come, HE will guide you into all truth: for HE shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever HE shall hear, that shall HE speak: and HE will shew you things to come". That's exactly how our beloved prophet was pbuh.
The Qur'an contains absolutely no contradictions. The bible has a multitude of contradictions and many versions in which youll find some ommited texts and books that the church fathers couldnt agree on as the original message of Jesus pbuh and language (Aramaic) was lost in translation centuries later in hebrew and greek and was heavily influenced by the pagan traditions of that time where some human and animal sacrifices often took place. The Jews reject Jesus pbuh completely and consider him an imposter hence why Juda betrayed him etc.. whether you believe it or not Islam and the Qur'an and the prophet Mohamed pbuh is true.
Islam is the fastest growing religion on earth and insha'Allah (God willing) will be in the very near future as God's truth always prevails over falsehood no matter how hard people try to cover it.
Christianity is dieing because the true message has been so diluted to fit people's worldly and life desires that no one cares to follow it, Christians don't follow the true teachings of Jesus pbuh, Muslims do. An example or two of that: Jesus pbuh used to fast 40 days of the year, He also never ate porc, drank alcohol or gambled yet a lot of Christians today do it openly, they follow Paul's message who abolished the law, not Jesus pbuh.
Jesus pbuh never taught or ordained Christmas celebrations or having a lit up Christmas tree (it is considered paganism, even some famous u.s televangelists such as Pat Robertson in admit it but wont condemn it as it because they fear that might drive more christians away from Christianity, so hey who cares what God actually ordains right?! why not, its after all only just another innovation!!) Jesus pbuh was not born on the 25th of December its all pagan traditions introduced and innovated later on.
Believing that Almighty God who created all things with his infinite knowledge and wisdom came down or had a son whom he sent to be killed by his own creation is in itself utter blasphemy and the most irrational disrespectful thing one can believe in, claim or imagine of an all powerful all wise all merciful Lord, it is the ultimate sign of weakness and injustice to Almighty God who's never weak, he also never ceases to exist and is not touched by death which only creation experiences, He is the ever living, self-sufficient, omnipotent and the reason why hell was created for the disbelievers, may Allah protect us from it. Ameen.
Indeed such beliefs are of the devil who rebelled against his Lord and is to the son of Adam a clear enemy till the end of times.
Compare that to what Islam (which is pure monotheism) represents and how much Almighty God is revearead and that argument falls apart.
I Invite everyone to read the noble Qur'an with an open mind. Peace
Saying the bible was the first book is total nonsense. Sorry Jordan, but all those books before it were burned remember?
Constantine published it in his way to blend all religions together in one book that he gave to the people (free....people didnt buy a bible then), because there was too many religions around and nobody agreed upon anything. The bible was NOT the first book (in book form). Jordan is talking about the invention of "a book"...not the first book every written. The bible was also a bunch of papers that got changed over and over again by translating it. Anyways...one of few times is disagree
Say what you want about Joe but his ability to make an interesting conversation with his guests is top notch. He listens, does not interrupts and asks questions that make his guests excited about the topic.
Top notch ? 😆😆😆😆😆 joe can't even find his way off stage without the help of his Dr. Wife. Let alone understand and respond to an intelligent question. 😆😆😆😆😆
Thats basic. He is no special son.
I hope his realization don't lead to another massacres of peoples same as happen in Canada and also don't start another world War in the name of holy Jesus Christ ...humanity have suffered it enough
So true
I'll say Joe pushes false information constantly.
I like how Jordan said “I learned this last week.” I’ve been a Christian all my life, however I went to the Museum of the Bible in DC too twice BUT only the second time I actually understood the creation of the book. It’s incredible!
Yet, the Vatican, the quintessential progenitor of the Christian religion in the western world went so far as to declare itself a sovereign nation, in order to keep its contents, hidden from the world.
What you have learned and think you know is it exactly what they want you to.
That's exactly how I felt after reading the latest batman comic!
@@jdrex5039 how did you feel exactly?
I would love to go there now! Going to tell my bf tomorrow! I need to go asap!
@Justin Eden the thing about that is.. God doesn't do any of that because he doesn't exist!
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
That is a nice intellectual way for Dr. Peterson to explain how fundamental God's word is. I never thought of it like that but I know without a doubt that God is real, Jesus is only son whom he sent to die for our sins and if you believe this and repent you will be saved 🙏🙌🙏
It is hard for me to become atheist, too many things in christianity hold me to believe in Jesus christ. It is hard to live without christianity, it would be chaos in my life, i could do everything i want as long i want it, but christianity give me boundaries and it kept me in order.
Amen
Jordan Peterson has his tremendous worth in many fields, but videos like these show that he needs to stick to those he knows about
When Guttenberg invented the printing press his 1st book was the Bible, as we all know. Do you know what the 2nd one was ? It was a biography of Joseph of Arimathea. The man only mentioned once as the man who donated his own tomb for Jesus to be buried in. He was the Roman Empire's equivalent of the Minister of Mines. Having control over mining and shipping which transported ores and refined metals. So what, you ask. As a devout convert to Christianity he used his power to help Christians escape persecution and transported them to the far flung outposts of the empire. So when the Roman's destroyed Jerusalem ( 70 AD?) approximately 3 million Jews were killed. The road from Jerusalem to Rome was lined with crucified Jewish leaders who rebelled against Rome, but no Christian Jews because Joseph had taken them out of harms way. Thus Christianity was spread as far away as the Britain and Spain and other places far from it's origin in Jerusalem. A man worthy of honor, but little known today.
The man who helped raise Yahushuah
Wow I've "known" about Joseph but did not know this!! Thank you for taking the time to tell this!! I really look forward to reading a little on this.. I have never heard this..
What exactly was the name of the book?
And who exactly wrote it?!
DAMN !!! Somebody was paying attention !!
I really wish that I could have seen a Christopher Hitchens and Jordan Peterson debate on the Bible.
this guy is zero compared to hitchens, in fact below zero
A 14 year old Atheist could debate him on the Bible and win. That's not because Peterson is stupid, but because fairy tales aren't difficult to argue against.
@@Azra2769 for me, hitchens was an antisemitic fat drunk & overrated, so go figure...
People forget Hitchens fell off the deep end his final years. Became a huge hypocrite. 90's Hitch was a legend though.
Sam Harris already did it. It was not pretty...
I've never met a man who could so easily think out loud and be understood as clearly along with being captivating. A true mark of wisdom
Agreed . He has been truly blessed
Neil de grease Tyson would be up there as well
Very well said!
He isn’t proving anything. It’s absolute drivel.
Our Lady of Guadalupe.
I applaud Joe for being able to patiently listen to that word garbage 🗑 👏
I love how humble peterson is. "I just figured this out this week"
Love from Bender everyone
Not really humble because he goes into saying what he thinks is true only learning it a month earlier
@@realitygaming7982 yes, but it took him a lifetime to get there.
True 👍 ✔
@@HoneyBadgerClub 🙏🏼yes I figured this out yesterday, the sentence you just shared. This is proof of his existence bc I’m here in my forever in flesh rn. That was the BIGGEST blessing of my life. God loves us.❤️
I have never heard anyone explain the Bible in that kind of text that was quite an Awakening moment for me
seems the further away society strays from God, the worse it gets. I never really seen peoples problem with the Bible. Teaches great foundations for mankind...lessons...morals
I’m a bit confused in what he was saying in the beginning, but the ending is an eye opener. God is great.
And within the Bible is it’s core revelation that comes from Jesus
“I AM the truth they way and the life”
It’s the massive truth within the truth. He is essentially the lighthouse in the middle of all religions, he is the fundamental guide and reasoning that draws the line and confirms what the Torah was saying . He’s the confirmation and stamp of authority that came into the world physically as us to make it abundantly clear .
And right now, people are trying to destroy the fact that truth is even objective . Now they are trying to say “personal truth , my truth”
When people are willing to threw away a fundamental understanding that truth is beyond them , then they establish themselves as gods and givers of truth. You see this happen in cultures, they take away objective truth to make way for oppressive alternative fake “truths”. If you manage to convince people “truth” is a social construct and a thing decided by votes or coercion , then things will collapse, quickly . This is why you see the people lying so much now and manipulating, they have become lawless, no respect or believe in real truth, rather they want to decide what you believe . What you celebrate , what you get mad at, no path for redemption, only enemies , etc
It’s inescapable that the Bible established inescapable reasoning. People will talk about new a ge stuff all the time. And “spirituality” when doing hallucinatory things, so they have no problem with spirituality or a God. They have a problem with the God of the Bible. Because it states he has a standard for people. If he had a standard to build all of reality to exact precision , why wouldn’t he also have a standard for people to do right and also give them guidelines? He’s telling you how to operate to be happiest, and it doesn’t inlove materialism.
You see materialism and superficialness is what’s destroying people right now too. Coincidence? That when people disobey , they start to ruin themselves?
He didn’t make basic rules to ruin people’s “fun” he made basic rules because if you start operating in a way other than what you were created, your mistakes will ruin you.
The Bible is a warning .
It’s main warning is to be aware of deception . He’s the manufacture , he knows how this thing is supposed to work, people just don’t want to accept they aren’t in total control, because people are arrogant
there are lots of writing that predate the bible and I wouldn’t agree that the bible was the first book, there are Chinese, Egyptian, Mesopotamian texts that way predate the bible. Including the epic of Gilgamesh which is 5000 yrs old approx and it is the origin of the story for Noah’s ark
Its why so many people want to fight it. In many cases its telling how to be a good person. It takes a lot more energy to disprove it and not belive than it does to just believe. Whats so bad about being a better person and realizing your not the most important person in the room.
Good to see Dr Peterson in good health and back to public speaking.
i concur. without a doubt perfect
@Henry F Wagons He's a shadow of his former self. he's admitted that all the benzo addiction diminished his ability to concentrate deeply and probably is why he resigned. RIP Jordan
JBP is a legend! Here comes proof!
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@Henry F Wagons yes, I’m sure you’re a better, stronger and more helpful person.
I wish…this was actually recorded in a spare room during the Schulz Wedding
The Bible is not one book, it is a collection of Books.
-Peterson (and many others)
Man the 4 hours podcast was a blast, it's was really enjoyable.
it would know if it wasn`t on Spotify ...fuck em
“For what shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his soul?”Jesus The Christ.
Jesus didn't exist as you think.
@@johnh383 and what's your proof that he didn't exist? Because Jesus Christ himself came to this world God in human form that he may restore humanity back to our Creator, but many did not accept him them and many don't believe in him now, this he said himself,it is appointed unto man death and after this the judgment Because all have fallen short of the glory of God ( sin) and only Jesus Christ himself is the solution .we all have a choice at the end but remember you will either spend eternity in heaven or he'll you can deny it all you want but it doesn't change the reality so please choose wisely
@@randychief4284 No evidence.
@@johnh383 creation is evidence of Jesus Christ because nothing that was formed without him he is the living word of God,the problem is not proving Jesus Christ but rather what he stands for and requires his followers to do its your heart that rejects the light remember the heart is the most deceitful thing because from it flows the issues of life hate love jealousy, greed envy etc and there's only one who can cure it and he is the almighty savior of the world.
@@randychief4284 Your extremely delusional and should seek help.
Jordan Peterson never fails to make me feel like an absolute idiot.
Read then
LMAO! And he’s such a nice guy when he’s doing it!
Nah, the fact that you listen to him indicates you’re not an idiot, but highly intellectually curious. 🤙
@@flapjackson6077 highly intelectually curious lol just some critical thinking don't rush things up
@@cibbrre
Intellectually curious and critical thinking go hand in hand.
@@flapjackson6077 but you need to read in order to become intellectual. Curiosity is the start, and the spark
The fact Joe listens and interprets without interruption is why he must be one of the best hosts and interviewer of the age fantastic Joe.
For kicks I looked up Jim Keller, chip designer, and indeed, he is a rock star chip designer married to Jordan's sister. Fascinating.
This made me wanna read the bible going for Mathew's book right now.
The whole book is life changing
Amen brother. I pray you come to know the truth through it
The Bible is as much fun to read as it is to quote. "Hear and give ear; do not be haughty, for the Lord has spoken. . . . And if you say in your heart, 'Why have these things come upon me?' it is for the greatness of your iniquity that your skirts are lifted up, and you are violated . . . because you have forgotten me and trusted in lies. I myself will lift up your skirts over your face, and your shame will be seen." (Jeremiah 13:15-26 NRSV)
@Lennox Lewis There is still significant benefit from the OT, even the prophecy books, but yes, its important to recognize the intended audience in each instance.
@Martin Luther I think that these passages answer those questions as well. "The Lord your God will drive out those nations before you, little by little. You will not be allowed to eliminate them all at once, or the wild animals will multiply around you. But the Lord your God will deliver them over to you, throwing them into great confusion until they are destroyed. He will give their kings into your hand, and you will wipe out their names from under heaven. No one will be able to stand up against you; you will destroy them. 25 The images of their gods you are to burn in the fire. " Deuteronomy 7
I'm 5 years sober, married 2.5 years, 1.5 year old baby girl with a boy on the way in April all thanks to jbp first interview on rogan years ago. He literally saved my life from addiction.
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
JBP had nothing to do with your sobriety, you control your actions and life. Give yourself credit, everything you have is because of you. He went on a podcast. You made the changes. You saved your life from addiction
@@jakep9643 he told a story that got me going back to AA and MA. I don't think I would have got sober again if it wasn't for him. Also his talks about family and children encouraged me to meet my wife and take the plunge into parenthood. I'm naturally a very selfish person. I needed some motivation to have a family. It's easier to just game and smoke weed.
Love to hear it man
Thats amazing bro
Once you start reading the Bible you realize how much life is based from it! Everything from laws to movies just about
"Nothing in this world is new under the sun" - The Bible
Ecclesiastics 1:9. ..one of my favorites..
You made me smile😁❤🙏
It's a TOTAL SHAME that NO ONE has yet decodes what 12 STONES at the foundation of New Jerusalem truly are. No one even got interested! And that's the last sentences of the Bible!It's a TOTAL SHAME that NO ONE has yet decodes what 12 STONES at the foundation of New Jerusalem truly are. No one even got interested! And these are in the last sentences of the Bible!
“There is no new thing under the sun” stop misquoting the Bible. It looks sloppy
@@BeingConsciousness-yw3zw said the rabbi to the priest lol
Its a breath of fresh air to see more people coming to Christ. Watching Peterson and his journey...I pray Joe is able to bring it on in with Jesus and the family of Christ.
Share your knowledge of the holy spirit Jesus Christ on why he is great to others as well as yourself! Every religion talks of a heaven but who resides in the New Jerusalem? Become knowledgeable of many but serve one brother. That’s an art of war.
amen
Amen in the mighty of Jesus Christ!
Brainwashing is real
@@chaselephart7274 i pray for every good person of any religon what passed on them by culture or parents, they true for themself and what they belive thats why i pray for them
it's really nice knowing we still have thinkers out there.
Just not in the comments.
Bible Clout
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@Seth Belfort I'm actually an optomist more than anything, but my cynical side is still there. but i am a realist, and I don't see this as often as I'd like. perhaps I've been looking in the wrong places.
@@bevrosity what the hell is this ? Lol
JP can talk for hours and hours and say ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
just say you didn't get him
Haha clearly the vast majority of people disagree with you.
Just say you don't understand someone who speaks as an academic
Love how Joe knows just when to let Jordan speak in depth without interruption. Fascinating to listen to both these guys together.
God is not 'magic man in sky'. He's the Creator of heaven and earth. None of this vast universe exists apart from Him.
I would also remind you that apart from the mindset and the principles laid out in the Bible, there would be no Western civilisation. No democracy. No freedom. No Internet. No you. Imagine that!
I suggest you get hold of and read a book called 'Return to the God Hypothesis' by Steven Meyer. It's on Kindle and not expensive. It will open your eyes. I also suggest you get hold of a Bible and read it. You'll find it doesn't read like fiction - it reads like fact. It starts, "In the beginning, God made the heavens and the earth." Nothing about a magic man in the sky. Don't end up being one of the ones who will stand before him in judgement to their utter destruction. Good luck dealing with that. Today is the day.
Or maybe Joe didn't know how to talk back to Jordan P. :)
Some folks just like to hear their own Kermit voice
@@Stevie-J He did say that he only came to that realization a week earlier. Often, ideas have to be bounced off of others, honed down through reflection and argument/discussion before they become "on point".
It’s called THC haha
I love when joe just zones out in fascination when an interesting guest is speaking. He really enjoys this stuff and truly wants to learn everything he can.
I know right! Its so nice getting to hear his guests just speak and not get interrupted a million times.
Elon Musk meets Jordan Peterson!! th-cam.com/video/Zhr9o1Hs4tw/w-d-xo.html 😂 😆
It’s so funny that I cried a little bit
If he were intently listening, he would actuality be zoning _in_ - to say that he's zoning out would be to imply that Jordan's not holding Joe's attention.
Zones out means he is not listening to him speak.
interesting. I felt as though at some moments in the podcast, joe wasn't following some things
Joe teaching us all patience, understanding and emotional intelligence rapidly 😂 what a legend
Sean McCreadie
But GOD, Who inspired the writing of the Bible, is NO LEGEND.
Peterson tends to treat Him as though He were, in public at least.
OK, so the Bible has played a critical role in the development of Western culture.
We knew that already. More should be said about its UNIVERSALITY, for the Gospel was meant to be preached to ALL NATIONS.
And so it has, to a remarkable extent. Which country sends out more Christian missionaries per capita than any other, the USA and UK included? SOUTH KOREA, apparently. Where in the world has evangelism exploded in our generation? In sub-Saharan Africa. These are no mere colonial outposts of 'Western culture'! Far from it.
A pet rock can do the same. Guess a pet rock is a legend too.
@@scintillam_dei
You betray a combination of abominable ignorance and equally abominable arrogance. You may go far in life, though in the wrong direction.
Rocks exist in many places; some are useful and some not. Rocks reside within your heart and within your cranium. They are not of the useful kind, but hindrances.
The belief that this amazingly ORDERED universe arose by happenstance, without aforethought, all its recognized and unrecognized physical laws in place, is so preposterous that I cannot possibly summon up the 'faith' to accept it. But this SUPERSTITION is not of recent origin, despite its
prominent place among modern heresies. We find evidence of it in the ancient world; as the Hebrew psalmist writes:
'The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." '
Funny thing, how atheists feel such a powerful compulsion to uncover themselves in public! They have no shame. Some get paid a lot for doing this, and they do it on their own behalf, not at the behest of criminal exploiters.
When exactly did Joe start doing this so called teaching. Where is it.
The definition of legend must have changed.
This is, hands down, one of the most consequential videos I have watched to-date. It helped me reconcile a longstanding internal conflict that I have been struggling to resolve... pretty much for as long as I can remember really. Thank you Dr. Peterson! You continue to use your voice & knowledge to help others. Very few will ever reach the level of influence & have the level of (positive) impact that you have already achieved. Not only have you reached & helped tens of millions of people over the years, you have also done more to advance humanity, on a mental/ emotional/psychological/spiritual etc level, than almost any other in our lifetime. You are in a very exclusive league of genuine good-doers and I am so very thankful that God sent a gift to his children in the form of Dr. Jordan Peterson!
What is the problem you have? Worrying too much if it’s real or not? Who cares. It’s not important. Live your life and be happy or at least try to. Please don’t believe a man 2000 years ago saved the world and rise from the dead 😂
Truth!!
@Nate Dill your surname serves you well 👌
@@natedill9180 you're definitely projecting rn
This sounds a lot like a cult member worshipping his leader, but my mind can be changed. What exactly did this video help you reconcile?
One of the best courses I took in Humanities while at University was a course called the Bible as Literature. That was decades ago, but I learned more about the Bible and literature than most of my other courses. The Bible is fundamental to literature. Nothrup Frye understood this in his book The Great Code, which I highly recommend. Yet, if you ask most graduate students today what's the importance the Bible has towards literature and the understanding of literature they might call you a right wind nut.
You are. After all you are part of the collective who believes that western civilization and christianity are superior to everything else. It's also the roots from where white supremacists comes from - the 3 goes hands in hands.
@@thedissidentleftist6997
B.S.
@@thedissidentleftist6997 lmao great take bro excellent assumptions 💀💀
@@thedissidentleftist6997 Well America was founded upon Christian principles and in less than 300 years it became the dominant superpower in the world that people from all over the plant come to, I’d say yeah it’s superior in almost every way
@@thedissidentleftist6997 the Bible should have been an introduction to older texts. But that’s only the case for those seeking greater understanding. People who just want to confirm beliefs they were raised in will never venture past the Bible into the texts that created the Bible. Crazy how many people think the garden of Eden was the creation of intelligent life on earth when the Bible clearly shows it ain’t.
I gotta admit. He’s much smarter than me so sometimes I struggle to keep up, but towards the end when he started talking about how deep the rabbit hole of truth and reality go, and how when you remove all of your pre existing beliefs and look at it objectively….the Bible has given us fundamental and objective truth…that blew my mind lol.
To think, all you woulda had to do was gone into a church to find that out but nah you waited til it was on youtube.
@@cominus All things to all men.
humble yourself to wisdom that stood the test of 5000 years. a 15 year old doesn't believe in God because he's lived a long and educated life lol
makes you wonder what the bible was dependent on.
@@LikeIverson3 God.
While the Bible holds significance in the Western world, it's important to acknowledge that various ancient texts predate it, contributing to diverse cultural and intellectual traditions globally. Asserting its exclusivity as the "first book" can perpetuate a limited perspective. Discussions should consider multiple historical and cultural viewpoints to foster a more comprehensive understanding, helping to avoid reinforcing biased ideologies such as atrocities carried out under the guise of the white mans burden and perpetuated by the papal bulls.
This is so mind blowing... imagine if every creature in society practiced what Mr. Jordan is saying about fundamental truth. Each one of us, before jumping to conclusions and scoffing at every idea foreign to our own, would sample the idea presented, consider it, try it out, and see if it is true. What a different world we would live in with every person, great and small, being heard and understood... not necessarily agreed with, but understood.
In other words imagine if every human followed the Holy Bible
Quinn Nelms Yeah lol idk why he would want every person to follow Dr. Peterson lol. If every single person had the 10 commandments written on his heart from birth the relationships between humans on this earth would be flawless.
Totally agree. Very well said. 🤜🤛
Well Jesus Christ in Jordan's words through Jung represents the absolute pinnacle of what one man can do at its extreme lengths. That is known as an Archetype. Even JC said it's all within us should we seek to find.
Jordan is how some say "being the light you want to see in the world." Leading by example hence his amazingly helpful books and his implacable word.
You are 100% right brother. That's the end game but it's all starts with each and every individual first. This is how the world you are saying will form.
Keep it real and keep it up ✌🙏💖
Love from Melbourne Australia to all the brothers and sisters out there.
Vedas are far older and far more complete. The Bible is the abridged version of the truth. The Vedas are the unabridged full version of the truth.
I Called on you at my lowest point Lord, you heard me and rescued me from all my pain and fears. I will remember that and give you praise all the days of my life. Prayers going up for everyone to beat any struggle they face in our Lord Jesus Christ Mighty Name. Call on God in prayer and tell him your needs, fears, and anything you might be going through, ask for his help in Jesus name. God is a great friend in times of trouble. ✌🏽🙏🏽❤ Love yall
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Beautiful. I've heard it said, "suffering is a gateway to enlightenment." It's the hardest thing, and the most beautiful.
@@lukem2260 Your laughing at an actual real life experience that another person had. Not an opinion, not a story, not what I think, but at something that actually happened in my life, which still happened weather you believe it or not. Its Your life, and your choice, but you should Repent of your old ways, and research about Jesus , so that you have a better understanding of who he is, what he did, and why we all need to accept him as our Lord. The Bible tells us that Jesus is the only way to the father in heaven. It's worth taking the time know him while we are still alive and still have that chance because once our body dies, Our souls will go somewhere, either Heaven or hell, and eternity is a long time to spend in hell. Please pick up a bible and read it, it will literally save your life. ✌🏽🙏🏽
@@HydraulicJack hey David, thank you for your msg, I appreciate that you cared enough to write me and help me with my wording, thanks for your kindness and your well written msg. I'd like to start by saying that i will definitely be praying for him as I do for everyone in this world because of the new Love I have found for all Gods children through what I've learned from Jesus in the Bible. I want to explain that My telling him about Hell was not a suggestion, Hell is the harsh reality that We will all face if we don't repent from our ways and accept Jesus as our Lord and savior. It would have been Harsh if I held that info from him knowing it can potentially help him rather then not say anything and let him continue on that path that leads to hell, that would be harsh. Belive it or not, but my telling him about hell is out of Love so that hes aware now and can change while he still has time. Jesus brought the same msg to everyone in this world so that we would be saved, not because he hates us, but because he loved us so much that he told us these things ahead of time so that we would be aware and make the neccessary changes that would lead us to being saved while we still have the time, that's Love. For example, if I had a little brother who was driving down a road and I knew there was danger ahead, if I loved him I would talk to him and warn him of that danger so he can avoid injury or death. I would tell him that because I love my brother and wouldn't want him to end up injured or dead. If I didn't love him, then I would not say anything, which would end in injury or death for him. How would I feel then, knowing I could have saved my brother if I only had told him what lies ahead? I hope that makes sense, that's where I was coming from. Have a great night, God bless you, and thank you for the well wishes, Lord knows I need it ✌🏽🙏🏽
“The Bible is the precondition for the manifestation of truth”
Masterfully worded. The Bible is, or should be, the lens through which we view the world. It’s not just true, it’s the foundation of what we call true. Without it truth would be in the eye of the beholder, and the beholders are fundamentally flawed humans that are notoriously bad at acknowledging unbiased and unfettered truth. Which is why we need a perfect and holy God to impart to us the truth as He intended it.
Jordan talking about his brother in law Jim Keller designing AI chips, how Jim said they're going to be way more revolutionary than the Internet... We've started to see it. 😬
I don’t take my theology from Jordan Peterson. But I’m glad he found meaning and purpose from the Bible.
@@TXMAC The internet doesn’t care what you do or don’t do... so why'd you comment hahaha classic murican
@@TXMAC dumb enough to not see the irony in your comment lol.
So basically, he’s saying what we all already knew…the Bible is a fairytale book written to advance the cause of WP and thereafter, cement and solidify WS for however long it has lasted. But, as he well knows, the lies of Western Civilization are on their last legs.
@@ubuntuiqinisoofuna7852 gr8 b8
@@ubuntuiqinisoofuna7852 The only reason you have an internet to spew your nonsense is being of western civilization.
Now I can understand why so many people hate this man. “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first’’
The world hated you first? Why, the world hardly knows you. But saying things such as that does argue for the possibility that, the more “the world” gets to know you, the more opportunity for you to be more hated by it will be. Unless of course you were throwing out an unattributed quote about somebody you are jealous of being more hated by the world than yourself. Just have patience, and good luck.
@@joehellno9097 he's not speaking about himself, it was Jesus who said:
"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you."
One of the most brilliant men I have ever listened to. Have you listened to Biden, Harris or Trudeau at all?
@@nhaatik5224 Biden? For real?
@@rules4life337 Translation: Of course this man is very brilliant. I was saying in comparison to Biden, Harris or Trudeau, there is no comparison. They are the most useless leaders of all time...
Jordan just tapped us with his sack quite literally. It was a clean tap right across the dome. He explained the pinnacle of everything which was the structure category. And the root point of everything being the Bible. Unbelievable.
I really like how Joe just sat back and let this man speak.
I know but what else can Joe do, this man is limited to the English language. Imagine how much more complex is actual thoughts and thought processes are.
Joe isn't ready to battle an intellect of Dr. Petersons' level. Besides that, Joe hates Christianity and cannot accept that someone so intelligent could embrace THE Bible as THE truth.
@@outdoorsadventurer I think your referring to a rant he made a long time ago. He’s said in recent years, he isn’t a believer but thinks the principles are good.
@@gabemoon9644 just like Mormonism, good principles, but only one of them can be correct since they both claim exclusivity to heaven. 🤔
@@gabemoon9644 I appreciate your civil response to me, thank you! I'm not the biggest Rogan fan but he is funny a lot of the time. I'm glad to hear he has backed off his former stance, if true. He should approach it like Ghandi did, 'I love their Jesus I don't care for their Christians'. Not really an exact quote but pretty close.
Two off topic observations:
1. He really dressed up for this.
2. How cool is it that Jordan Peterson’s brother-in-law is the guy that sets off the Terminator timeline? I mean, who saw that one coming?
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I think it’s scary! We don’t need computers in our brain, our brain IS a computer! The brain is also safer because, so far, they can’t tap into it.
Wait his brother in law did terminator :0
@@echospace7347 not the movies, but he’s working on stuff that reminds me of it.
@@christopherus what’s he doin👁👄👁
Great to be alive and see these two in Action - I'm a start reading the bible
You should, it helps.
Ohhh thats gooooooooood😊😍
Exodus 20 is my favorite
Please do. It’s the only way.
Greatest thing you can do! I knew a lady one time who was suffering from anxiety etc.. And she called a elder in the church and told her what she was facing. This great elder told her "Just read your Bible until you love it" She did what she was told and now nearly 25 years later she no longer struggles with anxiety. The Bible says in Isaiah 26:3 "Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee."
We all need Jesus Christ.
This argument kind of falls apart when you think about it. The Bible might have been the first massively popular book printed and bound, but it was far from the first hugely influential set of stories and philosophy. For that you can thank the ancient Greeks. Of course, non Western cultures also have myths and philosophies that significantly pre-date the Bible. That isn’t to say the Bible isn’t vastly influential. But to argue that it is the very lens through which we perceive reality, or the substance of our reality, is a huge stretch considering places like India, where the Bible has no influence yet they are still a largely peaceful democracy that likes good food, job security and going to the movies as much as we do.
You should read "Dominion" by Tom Holland. It's written by an atheist, but claims pretty much the opposite of what you're saying. Here's a video of him.
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Yes, most ideas encoded in the bible are derived from even older texts and stories like in the epic of gilgamesh. So it is not the bible but an even older orginial first text. But Ithink in general what he says about there being an original story shared between all of us and ingrained in all of the human condition holds true.
This is a really good point. Keep in mind as well that Jordan Petersn has recently converted to Christianity. This kind of argument seems to align with the whole "Christians vs savages" idea. It also ignores the relative peace of other societies as you say, such as First Nation societies.
I tendto argue that the bible was influenced by underlying natural common human beliefs that still exist today. And those beliefs were what allows the bible to remain relevant for such a long time.
@TJ M Democracy pre-dates the Bible. It's a Greek word.
I love having these types of conversations. I wish I knew more people willing to go this deep
Edit: To everyone saying the ideas Jordan is speaking of are bs: the accuracy of ideas being shared is not as relevant to me as much as the willingness to think so deeply about a particular subject. Who cares if you’re wrong. Don’t be afraid to think deeply and share those thoughts. If they turn out to be wrong, oh well, no big deal. Take the correction & use the new information to go down another rabbit hole.
It's mostly bullshit he's talking. This is what you would call pseudo intellectual
@@lukec5623 what he's describing is how in our universe things are connected whether it be barely at all or super connected point is there's a connection. All the connections from human thought and language stems from the perception of the bible
@@jvvlbeats It's easy to see Jordan Peterson philosophy; He believes in bringing order and positivity into the meaning of life by welcoming the believe in God. As Jordan Peterson logically claims that without belief in God, we are left with nihilism, and mostly negativety.
Therefore he seems to strongly support the belief in God for this reason. That doesn't mean to say that believe in God Is true, it just means according to Jordon Peterson, that it supports a more positive order in the meaning of life by believing in God.
@@jvvlbeats there are regions in the universe that are completely disconnected from ours, but I get that point. What he says about the bible though is utter nonsense. He's just not making a lot of sense in general.
@@jvvlbeats the bible is really not that special. There are many influential writings and the bible itself is a collection of stories from older cultures. Like the Iliad or other mythological texts.
I listen to Peterson every chance I get. He touches something deep in my mind and soul.
Sounds gay.
Jokes asides, JBP is one of the shallowest philosophers I know. If his message will and can heal anybody I support that and I'm happy for it, but understanding basic concepts like buddhism, natural healing, shamanism, christianity and ancient greek philosophy can be a lot more fulfilling because you understand the roots.
*Buddhism:* Let go, practice emptiness and find your peace.
*Natural healing:* Follow your balance and grow the way you want to grow.
*Shamanism:* Achieve deeper states of your consciousness to understand the world you are living in.
*Christianity:* Accept Jesus as your savior, because he died for you sins and live in respect for selflessness.
*Ancient Greek Philosophy:* Find your clarity and share it with others. Abstract ideas as a set of rules for society.
@@pikpik42 the only problem is most of those exist as a way themselves, sure you can sample them for "the best parts" but then you're contradicting the meaning of most of those texts because they are dependent upon themselves being the truth.
@@bulkyy Understanding that the core to wisdom is healing and balance was the main key for me. From then you can just compare different methods of enlightenment and their ways of working.
@@pikpik42 "enlightenment" is bullshit, you're just teaching yourself to connect your brain and body to feel more balanced and in control. Basic biology, nothing wrong with religion but acting like you can make some super religion out of everything is pretty stupid as they usually contradict each other heavily
@@bulkyy Easy there buddy, no need to be insulting. Enlightenment is not religion based and as you said it is about connecting mind and body. This process of clarification and felt clarity is called enlightenment in many different cultures from buddhism to european renaissance. Like I said, the main key is healing and healing in german (where I come from) in the word "Heil" is connected to "heilig" like holy. I don't want to make up a super religion, I want to learn from culture and develop as a person.
Epic of Gilgamesh the oldest book/written story. Also the Bible was campfire stories for a long time before anyone put anything into writing
Everyone here saying Joe is an amazing interviewer because he lets his guest talk, but I'm sure he's just quiet because he's trying to figure out the complexity of what Jordan is saying just like the rest of us! 😂
A least Joe lets him get to his point and I love the path to his point. Joe allows this.
Others would have an ego that compels them to think it's a competition of wits
I love your honest comment 🙂👍🏻❤️ God bless you
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I am not sure how long into the interview this was, but there has got to be a mental exhaustion at some point to try to process all the information being thrown at you like this as well. Jordan has spent a long time thinking about these ideas, big ideas and for someone to try to grasp that all at once has gotta be mentally challenging for anyone.
Wow, I am reading the Bible and this hit home. The truth!
It's not the truth though.
@@totallyanonymousbish9599 Can you quote 5 verses of The Bible by heart?
@@lionofjudahlambofgod9132 no, the only one I know by heart is Exodus 22,17 "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." which tells me enough.
@@totallyanonymousbish9599 you have told me enough about your mind also. Take care.
@@parisgreen13 pop off murder enthusiast.