Do It All Solar Generator Anker Solix F3800 240v Split Phase
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How to use the Anker Solix F3800 solar generator to power a whole house, RV, cabin, and have mobile power. Solar panels are tricky to understand so I keep it simple so you can understand how to get the maximum solar input on the power station.
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“Split phase power comparison” - How about the Anker vs the Ecoflow Delta Plus Ultra?
Note- the latest update for the f3800 expands the compatibility of the unit with many more commercial solar panels. Enjoy
Very good. Thanks for the help...Split phase power comparison!
Debating on this or eco flow delta 3 / or ultra for a blackout
How do these battery powered generators hold up in a non air-conditioned garage in the Texas (Houston area) heat? It's a newer build attached garage, so it's not sweltering like a detached uninsulated garage, but it does get fairly hot. I like this option better than gas powered (no noise, no exhaust, future expandability), but since my main panel is on the exterior wall of my garage, it only makes sense to keep everything in the garage. Thanks for all the content. Very informative!
Also interested in the answer lol
I live in Southern California and it’s around 95-105 every day. Inside my garage. Garage door shuts. It’s not as hot as outside and this runs fine and dandy. I would not open the garage and let direct sun hit this. After awhile of that I imagine it would shut down. But it sits in my garage and works 24 hours a day.
@@dbnoho Thanks for the info!
Excellent reviews and explanations on solar panels. Yes please do more split phase
Great review!! Thank you for your no-nonsense videos.
Good clean explanation. Thumbs up 👍.
The Max VOC on the panel isn't the max voltage possible, it's the max at standard test conditions (25C / 77F). In colder temps the VOC will be higher. Hopefully the power station will just error out, because a cold spell could fry one that's being run close to the VOC limit based only on the sticker.
Very informative video on the F3800, Ben! Keep up the great content!
Ok more information on split phase power a comparison to the Apollo by hysolis. Close to pulling the trigger on off grid system.
Thank you buddy!!
Good video, the Anker F3800 system is decent. I have two F3800's and 6 BP3800 expansion batteries and a Home Power Panel... so I am speaking from experience. Unfortunately I would not buy again because but they essentially have no customer service. And when they do firmware upgrades, they don't know the changes in specs. And they don't ship anywhere near their promised shipping and delivery time. But as for support, each call or chat takes hours and each response it automatic and says they will reply in 2 days... even for the most basic questions. So unless you're a solar expert, don't count on ANKER for any help unless you have a ton of patience. If I could do over again, I would go with EcoFlow for their customer support
Hmm this is a bit funny. I am planning on switching to the F3800 from Ecoflow because their customer support was severely lacking and build quality is questionable. Had a delta pro spontaneously crackle and burn out on me under low load. Dealing with customer support was horrible.
@@gx93117Anker has a phone number you can call and they’ll speak to you. I called back and forth with them for two weeks before I bought on JUST to make sure it was possible to speak to a human. Real crappy that god sends like Starlink, Anker, etc all suffer from not being able to get employees. I think going forward our world will deteriorate due to people not wanting to work thus we won’t get any support for these products that change our lives…..
What was the cost of installation on the inlet switch?
Split phase power comparison.
What is the stand by consumption?
I cannot remember the exact number, it is quite high although. Check Professor Hobo site for more detail.
@@markwetty2269 Thanks for the info. I thought it was high. It is what gave me reservations on the unit originally.
Split phase comparison please. Not just against the DPU.
Split phase power comparison please. This one splits the difference between paralleled units (Pecron E3600LFP, Dabbsson DBS3500) that also cannot provide split phase output when connected to the grid (important callout here), and single-unit split phase power stations like Ecoflow Delta Pro 3, Delta Pro Ultra.
I'm having a hard time understanding why this unit and some expansion batteries would not be a great solar system for a 50 amp fifth wheel. If you plugged it into another 50 amp Jack and ran a transfer switch, basically treating it like a generator, could you not just plug in to shore power and you sure power when needed and then if there was no short power it would automatically transfer to this unit unit?
Can you put a link on the portable poles you use to prop up the solar panels ?
is this a low frequency inverter ?
What about when it gets cold and the VOC increases for each solar panel? How do you calculate VOC vs temp?
How long does it take to charge a Anker f3800 with the 400 watt panel that comes with that unit?
And how low would it take to charge if a person has 2 400 watt Anker panels
Thank you
So which 200watt panel has the right voltage?
I'm looking at this as a possibility for power on a bus or box truck that im thinking of buying and trying to figure out how to ho about wiring up both shore power and solar to this. Absolutely no experience in wiring vehicles or houses lol. Basically I want the option to use either one, but it doesn't seem like the f3800 has a way to connect both. I'm looking up inverters, but it looks like I would have to use the 120v ac plug for charging if I went with routing solar panels and 50amp shore plug through the inverter/switch. Since the f3800 solar panel ports have a unique shape. So anyone know if you can get the same charge speed out of an inverter going to the 120v ac port, or would the solar ports charge faster in full sunlight? I'm planning on using it to run lights, AC, 1500w heater, and laser engraving machines that woukd probably use about 500 watts at most. Basically I'm turning the vehicle into a mobile store for my small business.
How is Anker's customer support. I'm hearing bad things.
So people know. I run mine out of the smart panel. And it’s awesome. However, the maximum output I get even when fully charged, is around 1.8kwh’s.
Mine never goes past 1.8kwh’s in output while using the smart home panel.
That's because in the grid-on Time of Use mode when used together with the Home Power Panel, Anker decides to derate the power of each 3.8 KWH battery capacity to 1.9 KW for prolong the life of the battery. So 1 F3800 can output 1.9 KW, 1 F3800 + 1 BP3800, or 2 F3800, can output 3.8 KW. 1 F3800 + 2 BP3800 can output 5.7 KW. 1 F3800 and 3 BP3800, or 2 F3800s and 2 BP3800s, can output 6 KW top. Any more addition does not help with this max derated output of 6 KW top. In the backup load grid-down mode, however, there's no derating.
How does this compare to the Apollo?
Split phase power comparison.
Split phase comparison
low max voltage is the problem of these generators like ecoflow and anker . If you don't need portable its better and cheaper to get eg4 6000 xp
6000xp is off grid only. Not legal in some areas either.
*Ben, you have succeeded in producing the most nebulous, convoluted, and confusing video on Photovoltaic application I think I have ever seen ! What ? I have to do what again to get the maximum PV input Wattage ? I'm not going to dance to this manufacturer's tune ! I don't want any solution which is this complicated to use. For one thing, the funky-assed MPPT's the power station manufacturers are choosing to install in their power stations need to be far more solar panel input tolerant than the extremely narrow characteristics they're using today ! It would be more practical if the MPPT in question had a broader input Voltage and Amperage tolerance, so the end user had more connection options and choices of solar panel designs they can use. More importantly, the simpler the solar panel connection options would be. What you like to quote - "Volts times Amps equals Watts," is not what we need to know when it comes to essential home backup. The more important equation is WATTTS DIVIDED BY VOLTS EQUALS AMPS. So let's see here shall we ? This Anker Solex F3800 outputs a rated 6000 WATTS @ 240 AMPS, therefore, 6,000 Divided by 240 Volts AC =25 Amps of current to run your entire household in an off grid, or emergency power outage situation. (6000/240=25) This is not bad, but it's not good either ! 25 Amps of current to run just critical loads only is not really enough ! I understand one does not turn on every light or run every appliance all at the same time when in a power out backup situation, but even so, homes running essential loads such as a well pump, Air-Conditioner, or hot water heater, furnace, freezer and refrigerator could easily exceed 25 Amps of current. Also, being able to run a house in backup mode for only 3 hours isn't very practical is it ? In fact, it's rather useless don't you think ?*
You missed the whole point of his vid. He's not suggesting you buy one, he's giving ideas on how to make best use of the limited input range on a unit some of us already have. Mine works very well as a limited back up system and keeps me from having to listen to a generator for 24 hours.
@@rickdougherty1371 Actually, this was one of my points. I think there's an issue with the power stations employing large capacity and great expandability, but employing very narrowly parameterized MPPT solar charge controllers. One might have thought it was in the best interest of the manufacturers to make it easy for end users to connect as many and as broad a range of solar panels as possible ? Perhaps this is deliberate to limit choice ? One does have to wonder about why this is, because it's overly complicated, and it shouldn't be ?
Yeah that is a great point. @@markjob6354
The main point here, in my opinion, is how limited the solar inputs are on some of these battery systems. It really takes an application of electrical theory combined with the right panels to get it right. It’s not easy for the consumer to figure out.
This Anker has some seriously compromised inputs. 1200W / 25A = 48V. Good luck finding panels with a Vmp over 48V and a Voc under 60V!!! Nearly impossible to max out these solar inputs!
This Anker has some seriously compromised inputs. 1200W / 25A = 48V. Good luck finding panels with a Vmp over 48V and a Voc under 60V!!! Nearly impossible to max out these solar inputs!
Can with there panels 😂 . This kind of company strategy i stay away from . These things show that companies think customers are stupid . When will companies ever learn to manage right . This very thing is costing the company thousands of $$ . This is spreading throughout the solar community .
Easier to pull off if their panels are low cost and work well . Well their panels cost a lot and do not collect energy from the sun very well . So when i save enough to buy a portable generator and will power exclusively from solar it leaves Anker as not worth the purchase
@@jimjr9143 Anker claims their 400W panel had an “Operating” voltage of 48V and current of 8.33A, which conveniently multiply to exactly 400W. They give a proper Voc (open circuit voltage) but not the industry standard Vmp (voltage @ maximum power) specification. I FIRMLY suspect their panel does not operate at Vmp 48V / Imp 8.33A as they are implying. It might get you close, but even if it were the case you would need laboratory conditions to do it.
Also, the Voc is 57.6V, so using this panel in cold weather won’t work either as it will exceed the 60V limit on the input (panel voltage increases in cold weather, decreases in hot weather).
Solar input sucks on this one.
first of all you haven't seen anyone covering this because not many can afford such a solor generator. expensive.specially for the people who rent . not obvious to spend big $$$$. personnaly i look for a solar gen that can make my fridge an d freezers work when out of power.