Fav has to stop saying “we capped cost of insulin”. No we didn’t!! We capped cost of insulin for SENIORS. It’s a little thing, but a huge issue in this election was dems gaslighting the country about what a great economy we had. You can’t tell people who are paying 50% of their income towards rent and 40% more for groceries how good they got it. It’s infuriating. And I think that’s what happened to the swing vote. Trump said the economy was bad, dems said it was good. The amount of people living paycheck to paycheck weren’t buying that things were good. Then a struggling family paying $600 or more a month for their kid’s insulin while on Obamacare hears dems saying they cut cost of insulin to $35 a month??? No wonder the working class told the dems to take a hike.
I think trying to separate the term economy from cost of living would be a huge first step. In the UK politicians talk about the term cost of living over economy. (Not saying we're great at the moment either but the debate definitely feels more in tune)
@ here in the states the government declares the “Cost of Living Adjustment” (COLA) numbers every year, and the rubric for calculating it is really outdated. As a result all discussions about cost of living get reframed by funneling the conversation into a discussion of the government’s version of what the cost of living is. The other negative effect is that neither party wants to adjust the cost of living equation up to a more realistic number because whichever party does it to reflect the ACTUAL cost of living increase will get saddled with a bad headline that says the cost of living increased greatly during their administration.
Seniors are also paying extra for it! The drug prescription portion of Medicare has gone up, and many other medications are now higher. The drug companies just shifted the charges around. Outrageous. And it is super complicated to figure out the different plans.
"veering right" = being the most progressive administration ever btw. privileged gatekeeping of political power will not be forgotten when remembering the far-left gatekeeping of winning candidates
“For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.” Chuck Schumer, 2016.
He really said that? Dummy. And keep in mind, losing the white working class was something that was noted in 2016 and 8 years later, they lost the non-white working class.
THIS. This is why we fail! (And thank you for bringing this up, we should NEVER let them live this down!) Jesus, Kamala campaigned with Liz Bloody Cheny!!! And you think that maybe we went too far to the *Left*!? These Corpo-Dems act like Kamala stood on stage and promised "Free Gender Re-Assignment Surgeries for EVERYONE and a Tofurky in every pot! And speaking of which, FREE POT!! She was want mainstream Republicans *used* to be! And of course now, we are looking in the mirror and asking "Should we be more racist!? And if so, HOW!?"
This is really at the heart of it....these kinds of videos are very hilarious. The video has blaberring pundits missing the mark and people just yelling in the comments sections, about ECONOMIC POPULISM
Preach. All PSA and Bulwark are doing is acting like they are doing a postmortem but in reality, they will just continue to serve the pundits and elites. Say what you want about the right, but at least they burned down their party to move to a more populace agenda. Dems have turned into the elites protecting the defunct establishment.
I agree with Bernie who said you can work on both social issues and economic issues like minimum wage and paid leave especially because the working class is multi ethnic and multi racial. He also said the Democrats rely too much on donor class such as the demand to fire the head of the FTC and the embedded political consultants like baseball teams that keep hiring the same managers instead for looking beyond the same people
the problem is that a lot of non-white voters strongly disagree with these social issues, which is why they just switched to Trump and we lost the popular vote. We can live in denial or finally moderate on these issues and start winning big.
@@jkrt8722 we lost because the dems could not activate enough people to vote for them, not because non-white voters switched to trump. actually look at the polling bruh, harris got over 5 million less votes than biden while trump got around the same as he did last time. the dems simply could not energize enough people, and the last 2 months of the campaign they quite literally ran as far into your precious moderation as possible yet peeled less republicans and whites than biden did. time to look at reality, this strategy isn't working
@@jkrt8722that’s absolutely false; not sure where you got that from. Most nonwhite voters care the same about these issues that whites think about them. Black voters became pro-gay marriage once Obama changed his mind on the topic, for one good example
@@Jettplayzgames This is not about gay marriage. That's a winning issue for Dems. The losing social issues for Dems are being soft on immigration, soft on crime and other antisocial behavior, and some of the more extreme trans stuff.
This was probably the most frustrating aspect of the Pod Save/Crooked content over the past few months. I get that he’s their mentor, but it was irritating how much Plouffe’s voice was taken as gospel by the main cast. So they just repeatedly allowed Plouffe to convey his myopic perspective, trusting his wise and perceptive political mind, when he was actually running an archaic campaign strategy. I have no idea how you introduce your candidate as a novel, modern, younger vanguard, only to revert to a conventional, bland, and standardized campaign when running against a “change” opponent. I get that incumbents were in trouble in the current climate, but I’m annoyed that the unique opportunity and promise of altering the path of western democracy was discarded.
These people are incapable of separating personal relationships and allegiances from basic perception of reality it’s so pathetic and so frustrating. We are absolutely fucked come 2028. All of these same ppl that should be fired will be in power in charge of beating JD Vance who is about a million times smarter than trump and a lot more sophisticated in populist policy appeals
@@Unclejamsarmy JD Vance has no charisma. It doesn't matter how populist he pretends to be, he's too icky for swing voter dumb-dumbs and the people who only vote every 4 years.
Brother, the Dick/Liz Cheney endorsement made her less favorable in Pennsylvania by anywhere from -3 to -10. I don’t think people were getting turned off by the left 🤷🏻♂️
The establishment Dems will never admit fault. They will always circle the wagons and find a scapegoat. That scapegoat will always be the progressive wing which they can not win without.
It’s the most obvious thing in the world these people in the dem party bubble are so delusional it’s so frustrating. They don’t know the most obvious things but were in charge of keeping trump out and now resisting him and beating Vance. We need a massive purge of the party establishment and consultant class but nothings happening, they’re just blaming progressives once again as if bernie wouldn’t OBVIOUSLY have won both times.
A kinder, gentler neoliberalism is ALWAYS the answer! Looking forward to avoiding another pesky primary (*lest the poors try Bernie again, jeeesh!) so we can anoint Liz Cheney 2028! The system works!
That only pixxed off super political lefties. Not a single independent went…Cheney…I’m voting Dem. Puhleeze. Not a single independent went Chennny I’m voting Trump. Such nonsense. People voted FOR Treason no more than people voted AGAINST Trump.
@@rbu2136 Democratic campaign ads all sounded like Republican ads of 2001. Tromping Cheney around your events shows that the Dems not only don't care about the left, they don't care about independents. They want racist-but-"moderate" rich, Cheney-like Republicans to buck with their party and vote Dem so that the DNC doesn't have to make corporate donors mad at them and kow-tow to the actual base of the party. It's just greed. The DNC would rather throw as many people under the bus as they can in order to get the magical 51% of the voters rather than convince the base and new voters to support them.
It's a shame they seemed to shut Tim Walz down pretty much after the DNC with the "weird" messaging which not only got him the job but was hitting the right. It was right around that time Harris/Walz ticket peaked.
I'm only 22min in right now, but please understand that winner-take-all voting leads to this race to more extreme stances. Ranked choice voting would force candidates to look for more broad appeal.
I have resisted the urge to give up on the democratic party ever doing anything significantly progressive, but all these election post mortems feel designed to convince me that progressives have no reason to support the democratic party.
Agree. At the start one person article blames 2024 on 2020 politics of what they promised in the primaries. As stated Biden won btw. More importantly in 2024, Harris didn't push one progressive item that Republicans were bringing up. This is the problem, the Democrats are really stupid enough to let Republicans term what is Woke when they can't even describe it and now the Dems are agreeing with them just like trying to get Republicans to vote for them. Democrats lost cause people didn't show up to VOTE for them. They lost running Republican Light policies. Keep being stupid and run on Republicans policies and you won't get progressive minded people turning out to vote. Then good luck trying to convince people of voting for the Fake Republicans when they can get the real thing.
i know i'm personally done. i will allow them the opportunity to earn my vote by supporting policies i believe in, but i'm pretty indefinitely going third party here on out by default and shifting my focus to local and state.
Agree. Plus I hate YT comment deleted. Person trying to blame 2020 politics in a primary on 2024 is ridiculous. Harris ran center/conservative campaign and never mentioned or barely countered anything the Republicans were trying to define as "woke". Now the Democrats are stupid enough I guess to fall of it and will let Republicans dictate what they run on. I can't believe their cowardness. Oh it wasn't Latino's or whoever choosing not to vote on wokeness issues. Less people showed up than in 2020 because the Democrats were running as Republican Light.
I switched from registered Democratic to Independent. The party has focused too much on special interest groups that do not necessarily help the community at large. And, some of the special interests are bordering on stupid. I listen to the Dems on podcasts drop the F-bomb every other word, and then read in The Atlantic an article that the word "please" can be interpreted as offensive. Then I hear Trump talk about the craziness of the left, and think he has a point. Before anyone jumps down my throat, I did not vote for Trump.
@@hohuho420 that’s exactly where I am at as well. I’ve held my nose and voted for dems in 2016, 20, 24. I did it for “harm reduction” so that marginalized groups would be protected. But I see no evidence that the democrats have done anything to protect them. They are owned by the billionaires same as the GOP, and they offer nothing but lip service to BIPOC, lgbtq, and working people.
They can't. This is something many of us normal democrat voters have been mulling with. We hate trump... We liberal pundits, DC liberals, Hollywood liberals but they expect our blind allegiance (while not listening to anyone except their bubble) Basically the normal people who aren't activists are looking at these kinda people who've gotten wealthy talking about politics for years.. these people are trash. If trump/maga want to go after these people. We're not standing in their way anymore. They've burned so many bridges.
Maybe more so called elite lefties can tell us what the low information/non educated people want. Maybe some more insultingly arrogant name calling will help.
Another issue is: There are no critics of the Right within the Right. There might be some lil squabbles and disagreements, but they always fall in line.
He’s completely delusional. It’s so obvious and yet he just denies it. Bernie would’ve won easily. You fight right wing populism with left wing populism, not by moving to the right EVEN MORE. We are so fucked come 2028. Gavin news on running on keeping trans out of the WNBA vs JD Vance with the teamsters endorsement talking about the working class
Podcasters and pundits reflexively state "voters aren't stupid," all the time. Respectfully, how else would you describe an inability to understand complex issues, systems or even discern fantasy from reality? Almost every time they say this, it is in response to the electorate responding unfavorably to highly curated, manicured and outwardly artificial personas used by career politicians. We constantly see the voters craving someone who is more "authentic." Voters are complicated and certainly not a monolith, but in general they are not as smart as they think, distrustful of authority and contemptuous of anything they deem as phony.
Voters are not stupid. Ehh, you do know Trump was just reelected, right? People started Googling policy AFTER the election, and whether they could change their vote after the election. That's pretty freaking ignorant.
Voters wanting strong rich men as their leaders. I don't think this is them being smart. This is third world stuff and is working due to the erosion of money in public education.
I think the dominant lesson of 2016, which we totally failed to incorporate this time around, was the anti-status quo sentiment, particularly among younger voters. People want a change candidate, a disruptor. I think 2020 was kind of an exception because we were in the midst of a crisis and voters wanted stability in the wake of a summer of mass protests, a year of lockdown, an election season of conspiracy theories on election integrity, etc. I think we're back to people being sick of the status quo, and that, in my opinion, is why Harris lost.
White voters don't vote Democrat culturally. Democrats will have to depend on minority turnout to win. The white voters who like democratic policies will vote democrat. Trying to peel white voters from the republican party will be hard to do.
“Non-educated” and “low information” are clearly not related the way the guest is describing. The condescension is real. Many highly educated individuals are “low information” because or the bubbles they live in. The condescension the guest is displaying is what lost this election.
I don't agree with your point about condescension. But, of course, you could have a phD in botany and never read a newspaper. You could be putting your all into an astronomy research project and only glance at headlines.
A kinder, gentler neoliberalism is ALWAYS the answer! Looking forward to avoiding another pesky primary (*lest the poors try Bernie again, jeeesh!) so we can anoint Liz Cheney 2028! The system works!
Movements thinking that their role is to pressure politicians, and not voters, is really the foundation of this problem. Righteousness might feel good, but you still also have to go do the work to persuade other people of your correctness. Assuming your correctness and using that to simply batter politicians is a losing endeavor. One's being right is not self-evident to other people. It's never just, "Oh, I just need to show them my position and they'll see that I'm correct." That's an idiotic view and an idiotic attitude to have.
Why is this never a question - "Was Dems strategy of cetaring only to disenfranchised Republicans and campaigning with Liz Chaney responsibile for Trump's victory?"
I love John 's childlike naïvité. He got it wrong again, he's a happy cheerleader. But fails to acknowledge that reality is more pessimistic than he cares to accept.
I think most Dem politicians do not know how to speak to Americans frustration. Politics is not as much about policy specifics as it is about emotions. Trump and Bernie know how to speak to emotions. Trumps are all negative and tear it down, but clearly more effective than Kamala who spent a lot of time on policy specifics. Bernie spoke to issues that a lot of progressives felt were at fault for our pain. The truth is that voters want it fixed but don't really care how it gets done. This election outcome made that obvious to me.
It’s interest groups with big money that support ideas that are unpopular that need to be turned away. Examples of this are AIPC and the health care lobby not trans activists or working families activists.
Adam jentleson is one of the scummiest most dishonest dem operatives I’ve seen. All these groups and no mention of AIPAC that spent $100mil in democratic primaries pushing very unpopular positions on Israel, AND a bunch of money electing republicans! His boss is AIPACs #1 guy so he dishonestly pretends that not part of this equation at all and it’s only the left groups that are a problem.
No matter what side of the spectrum you are on, unless you’re rich, you agree on social policy. You don’t want to spend tax dollars on war. You want your money to lift others up. That’s why they have no choice but to use fear and division combined with voter suppression because if we voted for policies only, the world would be different and arguably better for everyone.
We all need to take some molly and disconnect from some of the awfulness, but in that same moment, celebrate that voters are dissatisfied with the status quo. That's a huge opportunity. I was part of it. I love me some bulwark, but just like the fact that specific, economic arguments work better than wonkish platitudes, we clearly need to highlight the specific things about our democractic institutions worth preserving. No wonder voters didn't see the appeal in the party of contemplative bureaucrats. If things were aligned a little differently, in a world where WW2 & FDR never happened or something, and Bernie had won a party nomination, there could have just as easily been a "defend the institutions" movement against him that could have looked a heck of a lot like the Harris campaign. So, is there a way to resist on the specifics rather than assuming the whole entire system will fall (even if we think that's a possibility)? It seems 90% of people actually agree there are major institutional problems.
it's their lack of recognizing reality. It's Hunter's laptop- BTW- what happened to THAT storyline- Matt Gaetz. It's the inability to communicate effectively on all platforms that people access for their "news". THERE IS TOO MUCH MEDIA and not enough ATTENTION. It's the "getting on board- go along to get along" once the battle is lost and NOT going and STAYING on offense. It's me, It's you. It's the inability to move on. It's...
Didn’t vote for Trump, but I’m not going to pretend what just happened didn’t really happen … it’s time to pull heads from sands, not reminisce about how lovely the sunset at the beach was.
21:40 But then people (media people) were critiquing Kamala saying she didn’t give details in the last campaign. 🤷♀️ So give details, but not too much, against a candidate who has “a concept of a plan.” WTH.
To be clear, I was a life long Democrat, but I’m done. I’m fully radical left now. Not only do I not care if democrats think they will lose because of leftists, but if that’s how stupid they are, then I’m happy to let them lose while actually fighting for what’s right. I was not happy by the Harris message. Nothing she was fighting for should even be considered as progressive. If anything, she was regressive compared to Biden. In France, the left was adopted and they won. Everywhere else in the world, the left was rejected and they lost.
Privileged people when they lose the popular vote for the second time in 30 years. Have fun with Vance 2028 then you'll see the reason why thinking Republicans and Democrats are the same is only shared in your gated community!
100%. These people are so cowardly, so unable to see the most obvious things because it would piss off their friends in the club of the party establishment. Claudia Sheinbaum won in Mexico (not known for its woke gender politics) because they elected the Mexican bernie sanders, AMLO, and he governed well. Despite inflation being worse there the incumbent party won with a woman candidate. But no the problem is the ACLU and sunrise…???
@@azriel29-yl5xfYou know, a good way to hide that you’re actually a troll might be to not copy and paste your response verbatim, multiple times. We can see your comment history. And maybe don’t invoke the bogeyman of Soros, as he’s literally just an old philanthropist that gives to decent causes. There’s nothing nefarious; most of the organizations are focused on increasing democracy and democratic reforms, increasing transparency and civilian oversight of government, feeding people, housing the homeless, and giving people a decent job or education. Like, you can actually look up where all the money goes.
If no, then this title is pure clickbait. If yes, then it's the worst take ever, bu inline with some of the stuff recently spewed by Favreau and why it's really hard to watch him nowadays - living up to the worst of the pundit class in style. Not watching the video, just here to vote down the title.
NGL. Am dismayed that he could not convince or break it down for his parents. We need to get better at breaking it down for people in our circles first
If you don't blame the progressives, you would have to blame the donors and consultants and the NYT douchebags, who are of course, the Pod Johns' meat and potatoes.
The activists are so intertwined with the democratic politicians is the problem. They can't/won't agree on enough to get a majority take to win. It's gone too far and split into too many smaller groups. Common sense is uncommon amongst them.
Which group of people does the party not have a “plan” for, and what if individuals don’t like the “plan” the party has for them? There can only be so many in the donor class, celebrity sphere, and pedantic media class. Also, “working class” might want more than an Amazon warehouse job, a 400 square foot apartment in an urban center, and rations.
I don't get this odd debate argument, if I debate, it's not to change the person's mind, that person have a ton of physiological reasons to be who you are, that would take countless years of therapy to fix. Not something I could ever do in a "debate", the point is you need to show others an alternative to bad behavior, so they never start bullying gays or whatever thing I fight for, because when you haven't already harmed gays, you don't need to JUSTIFY your past behavior of harming gays to yourself. It's way easier to not start hurting someone, than it is to stop.
It wouldn't. This is more proof the left will revert right back to their identity politics. It's in their DNA. The sect of people they always fail to discuss are parents. Parents want their daughters to be safe. This means men with penises use men's bathrooms...full stop.
Are Republicans getting a more heterogeneous coalition? Is there one Republican in Washington DC who isn't conservative? To me, it still seems like Democrats need leftists, liberals, centrists, & Never Trump conservatives to all support the party if they are going to have a chance.
Sure! Clear because if someone not have the right wing ideals cause the lose of the left, because the right and the left should be equal😂😂😂😂. Then all the same, this is an atrocity.
The trans debate is just about whether people deserve respect and equal access. You don’t have to believe someone to give them the respect of calling them by their preferred name. It’s choosing to treat them nonchalantly as you would any other person. It’s drawing a line and saying hey you cannot take away someone’s personhood for being different. You cannot deny them healthcare, goods/services, education, or employment on something as frivolous and personal as gender identity. Republicans want to take away the rights of your neighbors and dictate how you are allowed to express yourself. This hurts all men and women. It puts people into strict boxes of how they are allowed to look. Are you a man who looks masculine enough? Are you a woman who looks feminine enough? Republicans want the government to decide. If you think it is a fad or cry for attention, then don’t respond with outrage. Treat it as normal and mundane and the people who are insincere will move on to something new. If you were wrong, then you know you treated them with the dignity and respect they deserved. If someone is annoying and trans, they just have an annoying personality. You don’t have to like their personality. If you find the whole thing strange, that’s okay too it’s just not for you. You can just move past it and focus on yourself. Republicans keep bringing it up because they want to justify taking away trans people’s basic rights. Same rights you and I have. Then they want take away some of the rights gay people, women, certain races, and certain religions have gained over the last century. All people deserve dignity and equal access. When we police people’s inherent differences, we create a more dangerous society for ourselves.
Jesus you guys still can’t figure out your candidate was shit. “Democracy is on the line” so you decided to install a candidate and rig a 3rd straight primary. Jon acts like his shit doesn’t stink😂😂😂
I don’t think there is a lesson to learn here. The money in politics, the divisive tactics by the parties, and the lack of accountability have left the population I think bitter and distrustful of everyone. Im sad that the election went the way it did but I wonder if it was a vote for the villain you know? When I talk to trumpers they know he’s a criminal but they don’t care. Sort of like shaking the monopoly board to end the game
Bernie sanders would’ve won easily. In 2016, and 2024. You fight right wing populism with left wing populism! Not appeals to honor and protecting institutions and bipartisanship. Not hugging dick Cheney who had a 13% approval rating when he left office. This is not rocket science. But left wing populism threatens dem elites cushy jobs and dems billionaire donors (like mark Cuban who Kamala idiotically campaigned with). They did twitch stream aimed at young people and had bernie on, great. But they had mark cuban and he started arguing how capital gains tax should be much lower than the income tax rate working people pay because billionaires like him take so much “risk” investing in companies. Any moron could tell you that’s horrible politics in general but especially for young progressive people
People who say inflation isnt bad frustrate the hell out if me. I almost paid 3 dollars for a can of soda the other day thars insane. The dollar store isnt even a dollar anymore 😂 and lets no even get into the insane costs of rent
We're making this too complicated, the solution is simple. Democrats should just try to maximize black voter turnout. They need to start campaigning in Mississippi and Louisiana... HEAVY!!
KAMALA SHOULD HAVE HER OWN PODCAST!.!…. And invite all kinds of pod casters like you guys and other popular and contrasting issues with her….The World Needs To See And Learn More About Her!.!….To Be Comfortable With Her And Tim Walt….
Bahahahahaha... this post proves you have no clue who Harris is. No way could she be creative, authentic, or likeable. It was all an act. Her anxiety is off the charts and why she drinks so much.
YES!.! She has 4 FOUR years to talk over the tyranny of Chump, the 🍊guy …. AND To INFORM her constituents as a Vice President and till Jan. 20th a former VICE PRESIDENT , Of the things she accomplished as a Vice President with President Biden …. AND ALSO What Her Proposals Were During Her election…. AND more of WHO she really is…!.!.
@ Maybe she didn’t have the right electoral assistant plan…. She could have been more successful if she’d had more exposure and grow less dependent on her script by having her own PODCAST!.!…. On a lot of the points the 🍊guy did were things that were not true, because there was NOT a steady stream of information to EVERYONE, like the 🍊guy did to get his worshipers, And he REALLY bank on whether the things he barfs 🤮 out his 🍊 mouth was true or not enough times people start to believe it!.!…. Kamala needs to get her groove on with repeating what it is and do it with Nonsctripted swagger !.!….
A major problem is that politics is too big. One thing the Dems need to do is emphasize organizing and control on a local voting precinct level. The party should have offices and officers in every precinct. Precinct Captains and their immediate subordinates should act as pressure groups on every level
I'd support a Jon Favreau Katie Porter ticket! Presidential duties can be delegated, give me those daily 3 hour presidential shit list youtube videos straight into my veins!!!
Yes we should AMLO is awesome, and Claudia sheinbaum was one of the only incumbent presidents who was re elected in the world because AMLO is so well loved in Mexico because he governed well despite the inflation. Literally the model for winning, you’d rather lose than have a left populist because we know left populism worked for AMLO and Claudia winning!
What are your thoughts on the fact Americans are always trying to achieve and move up either financially and socially, whether a marginalized group or not, and part of that “moving on up” means leaving something behind? It seems that something we are leaving behind is the marginalized feeling. To have empathy seems kind of an unnatural aspect of the human condition in our cultural construct. I’m confused how government can create empathy for others. Certainly not campaigns.
Great interview, Jon. Activism brings change but Harris didnt campaign on any of that. It just turns out that millions of Americans would rather have a narcissistic, lying, convicted felon/sexual predator insurrectionist grifter as president a second time rather than a smart, accomplished, empathic, qualified woman. Really makes me sad.
@bigjared8946 let's analyze that....Hillary lost, then Biden won, then Harris lost. And between Biden and Harris, Trump tried to overthrow the government, was convicted in civil court of rape and was convicted of 34 felonies over payments to a porn actress. He's a despicable human who arguably caused the deaths of 1000s of people due to his mismanagement of covid. And still Americans thought he was better than a woman. I mean.....
What makes a person qualified to be president? According to the 2020 primaries, the VP had to drop out of the running for POTUS because she was going to lose her home state.
The article in the NYT was mainly on point. We tried to please everyone and got crushed. This strategy doesn’t work, for example Dearborn MI went for Trump, he got 44% and Kamala got 36%. Elections have consequences and the consequences for this group is going to be more settlements in the West Bank. I’m sorry but have you noticed the decline in viewership across left leaning content? We are exhausted and what we need is pragmatic, common sense leadership in the party that can win elections.
Fav has to stop saying “we capped cost of insulin”. No we didn’t!! We capped cost of insulin for SENIORS.
It’s a little thing, but a huge issue in this election was dems gaslighting the country about what a great economy we had.
You can’t tell people who are paying 50% of their income towards rent and 40% more for groceries how good they got it. It’s infuriating. And I think that’s what happened to the swing vote.
Trump said the economy was bad, dems said it was good. The amount of people living paycheck to paycheck weren’t buying that things were good.
Then a struggling family paying $600 or more a month for their kid’s insulin while on Obamacare hears dems saying they cut cost of insulin to $35 a month???
No wonder the working class told the dems to take a hike.
I think trying to separate the term economy from cost of living would be a huge first step. In the UK politicians talk about the term cost of living over economy. (Not saying we're great at the moment either but the debate definitely feels more in tune)
Trump capped the cost for all, then Biden got rid of it day 1, a year later he brought it back, and claimed it as his idea.
@ here in the states the government declares the “Cost of Living Adjustment” (COLA) numbers every year, and the rubric for calculating it is really outdated. As a result all discussions about cost of living get reframed by funneling the conversation into a discussion of the government’s version of what the cost of living is.
The other negative effect is that neither party wants to adjust the cost of living equation up to a more realistic number because whichever party does it to reflect the ACTUAL cost of living increase will get saddled with a bad headline that says the cost of living increased greatly during their administration.
Seniors are also paying extra for it! The drug prescription portion of Medicare has gone up, and many other medications are now higher. The drug companies just shifted the charges around. Outrageous. And it is super complicated to figure out the different plans.
The system works.
The only way forward is to justifiably blame corruption and corporate interests. It’s something we can all agree on. Start there.
I agree. But that's not how the Dems work - we will just become MORE risk-adverse and afraid of real substantive change.
Democrats: LET'S VEER RIGHT
Also Democrats: IT'S THE LEFTS FAULT.
Also Democrats: HOW COULD THIS HAVE POSSIBLY HAPPENED???
"veering right" = being the most progressive administration ever btw. privileged gatekeeping of political power will not be forgotten when remembering the far-left gatekeeping of winning candidates
All caps dialogue meme takes: LOOK AT ME
@@ProgressiveWindsoryou have to be kidding. Left of FDR. Give me a break. Blue anon gaslighting
@@ProgressiveWindsor i suggest you develop a healthy sense of curiosity
“For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.” Chuck Schumer, 2016.
He really said that? Dummy.
And keep in mind, losing the white working class was something that was noted in 2016 and 8 years later, they lost the non-white working class.
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THIS. This is why we fail! (And thank you for bringing this up, we should NEVER let them live this down!)
Jesus, Kamala campaigned with Liz Bloody Cheny!!! And you think that maybe we went too far to the *Left*!?
These Corpo-Dems act like Kamala stood on stage and promised "Free Gender Re-Assignment Surgeries for EVERYONE and a Tofurky in every pot! And speaking of which, FREE POT!!
She was want mainstream Republicans *used* to be!
And of course now, we are looking in the mirror and asking "Should we be more racist!? And if so, HOW!?"
That would only work if someone doesn't turn Non-Voters into Republicans and make sure Democrats come out to vote.
Chuck Schumer was wrong. That’s why Kamala failed
"We have a consultant class that deserves scrutiny and we're talking about Sunrise Movement...why?" Yes exactly!
Pass. Let me know what PSA is ready to accept that Americans want a government that really works for them and not pundits and corporations.
This is really at the heart of it....these kinds of videos are very hilarious. The video has blaberring pundits missing the mark and people just yelling in the comments sections, about ECONOMIC POPULISM
@@ADITYAMISHRA-h7g Economic populism doesn't work
Preach. All PSA and Bulwark are doing is acting like they are doing a postmortem but in reality, they will just continue to serve the pundits and elites. Say what you want about the right, but at least they burned down their party to move to a more populace agenda. Dems have turned into the elites protecting the defunct establishment.
Lol. "Wake me when they start agreeing with me" is just the absolute worst. You suck.
Seriously this is such delusion from Jon I’m really disappointed
I agree with Bernie who said you can work on both social issues and economic issues like minimum wage and paid leave especially because the working class is multi ethnic and multi racial. He also said the Democrats rely too much on donor class such as the demand to fire the head of the FTC and the embedded political consultants like baseball teams that keep hiring the same managers instead for looking beyond the same people
the problem is that a lot of non-white voters strongly disagree with these social issues, which is why they just switched to Trump and we lost the popular vote. We can live in denial or finally moderate on these issues and start winning big.
@@jkrt8722 we lost because the dems could not activate enough people to vote for them, not because non-white voters switched to trump. actually look at the polling bruh, harris got over 5 million less votes than biden while trump got around the same as he did last time. the dems simply could not energize enough people, and the last 2 months of the campaign they quite literally ran as far into your precious moderation as possible yet peeled less republicans and whites than biden did. time to look at reality, this strategy isn't working
@@jkrt8722that’s absolutely false; not sure where you got that from. Most nonwhite voters care the same about these issues that whites think about them. Black voters became pro-gay marriage once Obama changed his mind on the topic, for one good example
@@Jettplayzgames This is not about gay marriage. That's a winning issue for Dems. The losing social issues for Dems are being soft on immigration, soft on crime and other antisocial behavior, and some of the more extreme trans stuff.
@@jkrt8722Republican party always wins white voters yet somehow it’s always non-white voters fault when dems lose
This was probably the most frustrating aspect of the Pod Save/Crooked content over the past few months. I get that he’s their mentor, but it was irritating how much Plouffe’s voice was taken as gospel by the main cast. So they just repeatedly allowed Plouffe to convey his myopic perspective, trusting his wise and perceptive political mind, when he was actually running an archaic campaign strategy. I have no idea how you introduce your candidate as a novel, modern, younger vanguard, only to revert to a conventional, bland, and standardized campaign when running against a “change” opponent. I get that incumbents were in trouble in the current climate, but I’m annoyed that the unique opportunity and promise of altering the path of western democracy was discarded.
These people are incapable of separating personal relationships and allegiances from basic perception of reality it’s so pathetic and so frustrating. We are absolutely fucked come 2028. All of these same ppl that should be fired will be in power in charge of beating JD Vance who is about a million times smarter than trump and a lot more sophisticated in populist policy appeals
@@Unclejamsarmy JD Vance has no charisma. It doesn't matter how populist he pretends to be, he's too icky for swing voter dumb-dumbs and the people who only vote every 4 years.
Brother, the Dick/Liz Cheney endorsement made her less favorable in Pennsylvania by anywhere from -3 to -10. I don’t think people were getting turned off by the left 🤷🏻♂️
The establishment Dems will never admit fault. They will always circle the wagons and find a scapegoat. That scapegoat will always be the progressive wing which they can not win without.
It’s the most obvious thing in the world these people in the dem party bubble are so delusional it’s so frustrating. They don’t know the most obvious things but were in charge of keeping trump out and now resisting him and beating Vance. We need a massive purge of the party establishment and consultant class but nothings happening, they’re just blaming progressives once again as if bernie wouldn’t OBVIOUSLY have won both times.
A kinder, gentler neoliberalism is ALWAYS the answer! Looking forward to avoiding another pesky primary (*lest the poors try Bernie again, jeeesh!) so we can anoint Liz Cheney 2028!
The system works!
That only pixxed off super political lefties. Not a single independent went…Cheney…I’m voting Dem. Puhleeze. Not a single independent went Chennny I’m voting Trump. Such nonsense. People voted FOR Treason no more than people voted AGAINST Trump.
@@rbu2136 Democratic campaign ads all sounded like Republican ads of 2001. Tromping Cheney around your events shows that the Dems not only don't care about the left, they don't care about independents. They want racist-but-"moderate" rich, Cheney-like Republicans to buck with their party and vote Dem so that the DNC doesn't have to make corporate donors mad at them and kow-tow to the actual base of the party. It's just greed. The DNC would rather throw as many people under the bus as they can in order to get the magical 51% of the voters rather than convince the base and new voters to support them.
It bugs me so much that you all say "how do we reach them?" and not "what if we reached them, and they still don't like our ideas?"
No. Corporatists and no legitimate primaries are to blame.
No room for the idea that Plouffe might just be wrong and making bad judgments. Instead we just hear insider info about how he's a political windsock.
He’s on the Obama team so Jon just can’t fathom him being wrong or a liability or criticize him publicly
It's a shame they seemed to shut Tim Walz down pretty much after the DNC with the "weird" messaging which not only got him the job but was hitting the right. It was right around that time Harris/Walz ticket peaked.
I'm only 22min in right now, but please understand that winner-take-all voting leads to this race to more extreme stances. Ranked choice voting would force candidates to look for more broad appeal.
"please understand" = nails on chalkboard
@@jimnyenhuis560 any self-righteous sjw zealotry = nails on chalkboard
This is actually the exact opposite of what the Political Science literature shows lmao.
I have resisted the urge to give up on the democratic party ever doing anything significantly progressive, but all these election post mortems feel designed to convince me that progressives have no reason to support the democratic party.
Agree. At the start one person article blames 2024 on 2020 politics of what they promised in the primaries. As stated Biden won btw. More importantly in 2024, Harris didn't push one progressive item that Republicans were bringing up.
This is the problem, the Democrats are really stupid enough to let Republicans term what is Woke when they can't even describe it and now the Dems are agreeing with them just like trying to get Republicans to vote for them.
Democrats lost cause people didn't show up to VOTE for them. They lost running Republican Light policies. Keep being stupid and run on Republicans policies and you won't get progressive minded people turning out to vote. Then good luck trying to convince people of voting for the Fake Republicans when they can get the real thing.
i know i'm personally done. i will allow them the opportunity to earn my vote by supporting policies i believe in, but i'm pretty indefinitely going third party here on out by default and shifting my focus to local and state.
Agree. Plus I hate YT comment deleted.
Person trying to blame 2020 politics in a primary on 2024 is ridiculous. Harris ran center/conservative campaign and never mentioned or barely countered anything the Republicans were trying to define as "woke".
Now the Democrats are stupid enough I guess to fall of it and will let Republicans dictate what they run on. I can't believe their cowardness.
Oh it wasn't Latino's or whoever choosing not to vote on wokeness issues. Less people showed up than in 2020 because the Democrats were running as Republican Light.
I switched from registered Democratic to Independent. The party has focused too much on special interest groups that do not necessarily help the community at large. And, some of the special interests are bordering on stupid. I listen to the Dems on podcasts drop the F-bomb every other word, and then read in The Atlantic an article that the word "please" can be interpreted as offensive. Then I hear Trump talk about the craziness of the left, and think he has a point. Before anyone jumps down my throat, I did not vote for Trump.
@@hohuho420 that’s exactly where I am at as well. I’ve held my nose and voted for dems in 2016, 20, 24.
I did it for “harm reduction” so that marginalized groups would be protected.
But I see no evidence that the democrats have done anything to protect them.
They are owned by the billionaires same as the GOP, and they offer nothing but lip service to BIPOC, lgbtq, and working people.
PSA just accept you were also part of the problem and stop serving this trash.
They can't. This is something many of us normal democrat voters have been mulling with.
We hate trump... We liberal pundits, DC liberals, Hollywood liberals but they expect our blind allegiance (while not listening to anyone except their bubble)
Basically the normal people who aren't activists are looking at these kinda people who've gotten wealthy talking about politics for years.. these people are trash. If trump/maga want to go after these people.
We're not standing in their way anymore. They've burned so many bridges.
Maybe more so called elite lefties can tell us what the low information/non educated people want. Maybe some more insultingly arrogant name calling will help.
Another issue is: There are no critics of the Right within the Right. There might be some lil squabbles and disagreements, but they always fall in line.
The weird thing should have stuck. It was getting to the right and would have made for some great ads
One thing i haven't heard being touched on is Kamala's "most lethal fighting force " vs. Trump's "end war."
He’s still not getting it.
Could you explain it?
He’s completely delusional. It’s so obvious and yet he just denies it. Bernie would’ve won easily. You fight right wing populism with left wing populism, not by moving to the right EVEN MORE. We are so fucked come 2028. Gavin news on running on keeping trans out of the WNBA vs JD Vance with the teamsters endorsement talking about the working class
@@infernoreilo "Proud to be an American" > "America is inherently racist, sexist, transphobic, etc, etc, etc......."
Podcasters and pundits reflexively state "voters aren't stupid," all the time. Respectfully, how else would you describe an inability to understand complex issues, systems or even discern fantasy from reality? Almost every time they say this, it is in response to the electorate responding unfavorably to highly curated, manicured and outwardly artificial personas used by career politicians. We constantly see the voters craving someone who is more "authentic." Voters are complicated and certainly not a monolith, but in general they are not as smart as they think, distrustful of authority and contemptuous of anything they deem as phony.
Voters are not stupid. Ehh, you do know Trump was just reelected, right? People started Googling policy AFTER the election, and whether they could change their vote after the election. That's pretty freaking ignorant.
Voters wanting strong rich men as their leaders. I don't think this is them being smart. This is third world stuff and is working due to the erosion of money in public education.
I think the dominant lesson of 2016, which we totally failed to incorporate this time around, was the anti-status quo sentiment, particularly among younger voters. People want a change candidate, a disruptor. I think 2020 was kind of an exception because we were in the midst of a crisis and voters wanted stability in the wake of a summer of mass protests, a year of lockdown, an election season of conspiracy theories on election integrity, etc. I think we're back to people being sick of the status quo, and that, in my opinion, is why Harris lost.
Average MSNBC watcher 😂😂😂
We’ve tried moving right for 15 years. Maybe try moving left for once?
no you haven't
@ It’s time to stop becoming like 1990 Republicans. It doesn’t work.
Obama famously moved right when he passed universal healthcare insurance. Where are the far-left fantasies coming from?
Biden moved left and he got zero credit for it, and a lot of backlash.
Moving left as in what? More white male grievance?
White voters don't vote Democrat culturally. Democrats will have to depend on minority turnout to win. The white voters who like democratic policies will vote democrat. Trying to peel white voters from the republican party will be hard to do.
“Non-educated” and “low information” are clearly not related the way the guest is describing. The condescension is real. Many highly educated individuals are “low information” because or the bubbles they live in. The condescension the guest is displaying is what lost this election.
I don't agree with your point about condescension.
But, of course, you could have a phD in botany and never read a newspaper. You could be putting your all into an astronomy research project and only glance at headlines.
A kinder, gentler neoliberalism is ALWAYS the answer! Looking forward to avoiding another pesky primary (*lest the poors try Bernie again, jeeesh!) so we can anoint Liz Cheney 2028!
The system works!
No.
Movements thinking that their role is to pressure politicians, and not voters, is really the foundation of this problem. Righteousness might feel good, but you still also have to go do the work to persuade other people of your correctness. Assuming your correctness and using that to simply batter politicians is a losing endeavor.
One's being right is not self-evident to other people. It's never just, "Oh, I just need to show them my position and they'll see that I'm correct." That's an idiotic view and an idiotic attitude to have.
Why is this never a question - "Was Dems strategy of cetaring only to disenfranchised Republicans and campaigning with Liz Chaney responsibile for Trump's victory?"
No. Next question
It’s not the left it’s the indentitarian left
Betteridge's law of headlines: Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no.
I love John 's childlike naïvité. He got it wrong again, he's a happy cheerleader. But fails to acknowledge that reality is more pessimistic than he cares to accept.
Let me save you an hour of your life: NO !!!!
I think most Dem politicians do not know how to speak to Americans frustration. Politics is not as much about policy specifics as it is about emotions. Trump and Bernie know how to speak to emotions. Trumps are all negative and tear it down, but clearly more effective than Kamala who spent a lot of time on policy specifics. Bernie spoke to issues that a lot of progressives felt were at fault for our pain. The truth is that voters want it fixed but don't really care how it gets done. This election outcome made that obvious to me.
It’s interest groups with big money that support ideas that are unpopular that need to be turned away. Examples of this are AIPC and the health care lobby not trans activists or working families activists.
He works for John Fetterman? Why would I trust what he has to say?
This is exactly why Trump won.
When will far-left dogwhitsling end?
So true. Does Fetterman have any cred left?
@@Berry_NNone.
Adam jentleson is one of the scummiest most dishonest dem operatives I’ve seen. All these groups and no mention of AIPAC that spent $100mil in democratic primaries pushing very unpopular positions on Israel, AND a bunch of money electing republicans! His boss is AIPACs #1 guy so he dishonestly pretends that not part of this equation at all and it’s only the left groups that are a problem.
No matter what side of the spectrum you are on, unless you’re rich, you agree on social policy. You don’t want to spend tax dollars on war. You want your money to lift others up. That’s why they have no choice but to use fear and division combined with voter suppression because if we voted for policies only, the world would be different and arguably better for everyone.
We don’t want our money spent on illegal imgrants at all.
The problem is a miniscule media counterpoint (across the media landscape) to all of the right-wing media.
Quarden Token is easily going to hit $1 this month
We all need to take some molly and disconnect from some of the awfulness, but in that same moment, celebrate that voters are dissatisfied with the status quo. That's a huge opportunity.
I was part of it. I love me some bulwark, but just like the fact that specific, economic arguments work better than wonkish platitudes, we clearly need to highlight the specific things about our democractic institutions worth preserving. No wonder voters didn't see the appeal in the party of contemplative bureaucrats.
If things were aligned a little differently, in a world where WW2 & FDR never happened or something, and Bernie had won a party nomination, there could have just as easily been a "defend the institutions" movement against him that could have looked a heck of a lot like the Harris campaign.
So, is there a way to resist on the specifics rather than assuming the whole entire system will fall (even if we think that's a possibility)? It seems 90% of people actually agree there are major institutional problems.
it's their lack of recognizing reality. It's Hunter's laptop- BTW- what happened to THAT storyline- Matt Gaetz. It's the inability to communicate effectively on all platforms that people access for their "news". THERE IS TOO MUCH MEDIA and not enough ATTENTION. It's the "getting on board- go along to get along" once the battle is lost and NOT going and STAYING on offense. It's me, It's you. It's the inability to move on. It's...
Didn’t vote for Trump, but I’m not going to pretend what just happened didn’t really happen … it’s time to pull heads from sands, not reminisce about how lovely the sunset at the beach was.
21:40 But then people (media people) were critiquing Kamala saying she didn’t give details in the last campaign. 🤷♀️ So give details, but not too much, against a candidate who has “a concept of a plan.” WTH.
We need left wing populism. Winning is about turnout, centrist politics ain't giving us turnout, we have the receipts.
To be clear, I was a life long Democrat, but I’m done. I’m fully radical left now. Not only do I not care if democrats think they will lose because of leftists, but if that’s how stupid they are, then I’m happy to let them lose while actually fighting for what’s right. I was not happy by the Harris message. Nothing she was fighting for should even be considered as progressive. If anything, she was regressive compared to Biden. In France, the left was adopted and they won. Everywhere else in the world, the left was rejected and they lost.
Privileged people when they lose the popular vote for the second time in 30 years. Have fun with Vance 2028 then you'll see the reason why thinking Republicans and Democrats are the same is only shared in your gated community!
100%. These people are so cowardly, so unable to see the most obvious things because it would piss off their friends in the club of the party establishment. Claudia Sheinbaum won in Mexico (not known for its woke gender politics) because they elected the Mexican bernie sanders, AMLO, and he governed well. Despite inflation being worse there the incumbent party won with a woman candidate.
But no the problem is the ACLU and sunrise…???
Body autonomy was the only issue she seemed progressive everything else was either Biden repeat or more to the right.
Mexico also, and it was an incumbent!
US funding of massacres should be a non-starter. It's what the base of the party wanted.
Leaks coming out about Trump working together with shareholders involved with Quarden Token
Yeah george soros right hand . And the biggest donatur for democrat is goerge soros 😂
@@azriel29-yl5xfYou know, a good way to hide that you’re actually a troll might be to not copy and paste your response verbatim, multiple times. We can see your comment history. And maybe don’t invoke the bogeyman of Soros, as he’s literally just an old philanthropist that gives to decent causes. There’s nothing nefarious; most of the organizations are focused on increasing democracy and democratic reforms, increasing transparency and civilian oversight of government, feeding people, housing the homeless, and giving people a decent job or education. Like, you can actually look up where all the money goes.
If no, then this title is pure clickbait. If yes, then it's the worst take ever, bu inline with some of the stuff recently spewed by Favreau and why it's really hard to watch him nowadays - living up to the worst of the pundit class in style. Not watching the video, just here to vote down the title.
NGL. Am dismayed that he could not convince or break it down for his parents. We need to get better at breaking it down for people in our circles first
Why would I watch this? No. It’s not the progressives’ fault.
If you don't blame the progressives, you would have to blame the donors and consultants and the NYT douchebags, who are of course, the Pod Johns' meat and potatoes.
The answer is no, let's see how they get there
The activists are so intertwined with the democratic politicians is the problem. They can't/won't agree on enough to get a majority take to win. It's gone too far and split into too many smaller groups. Common sense is uncommon amongst them.
Why would introspection ever be useful????
@@ChrisMissal The answer is yes
Which group of people does the party not have a “plan” for, and what if individuals don’t like the “plan” the party has for them? There can only be so many in the donor class, celebrity sphere, and pedantic media class. Also, “working class” might want more than an Amazon warehouse job, a 400 square foot apartment in an urban center, and rations.
We lost because of the economy
Why, what have you done to it?
The Dems can call out big corps since they sold out to them, and so it's the progressives' fault.
I’ll save yall the 54:46 its not.
If you can’t see the ridicule in free breast implants for incarcerated men, no one can help you and you will continue to lose.
Speaking of Katy P...what's she up to these days? Her voice is a real loss.
No.
Again No.
I don't get this odd debate argument, if I debate, it's not to change the person's mind, that person have a ton of physiological reasons to be who you are, that would take countless years of therapy to fix. Not something I could ever do in a "debate", the point is you need to show others an alternative to bad behavior, so they never start bullying gays or whatever thing I fight for, because when you haven't already harmed gays, you don't need to JUSTIFY your past behavior of harming gays to yourself. It's way easier to not start hurting someone, than it is to stop.
Best lesson of this entire podcast in my opinion is at 44:26 about how Mexico’s president handles communications.
Fresh Air with Terry Gross in 2005 was pretty good…these guys impersonating Terry in 2024 is hard to hear. Uffda!
Why would a bathroom policy target anyone but the people who should be targeted?
It wouldn't. This is more proof the left will revert right back to their identity politics. It's in their DNA. The sect of people they always fail to discuss are parents. Parents want their daughters to be safe. This means men with penises use men's bathrooms...full stop.
Are Republicans getting a more heterogeneous coalition? Is there one Republican in Washington DC who isn't conservative? To me, it still seems like Democrats need leftists, liberals, centrists, & Never Trump conservatives to all support the party if they are going to have a chance.
Let me save time by answering the video's title: No.
Sure! Clear because if someone not have the right wing ideals cause the lose of the left, because the right and the left should be equal😂😂😂😂. Then all the same, this is an atrocity.
can we stop
No we're paid to create scapegoats for the Dems so they have an excuse for losing.
Ngl I’ve never even heard of the sunrise movement(group) until this pod
The trans debate is just about whether people deserve respect and equal access.
You don’t have to believe someone to give them the respect of calling them by their preferred name. It’s choosing to treat them nonchalantly as you would any other person. It’s drawing a line and saying hey you cannot take away someone’s personhood for being different. You cannot deny them healthcare, goods/services, education, or employment on something as frivolous and personal as gender identity. Republicans want to take away the rights of your neighbors and dictate how you are allowed to express yourself. This hurts all men and women. It puts people into strict boxes of how they are allowed to look. Are you a man who looks masculine enough? Are you a woman who looks feminine enough? Republicans want the government to decide.
If you think it is a fad or cry for attention, then don’t respond with outrage. Treat it as normal and mundane and the people who are insincere will move on to something new. If you were wrong, then you know you treated them with the dignity and respect they deserved. If someone is annoying and trans, they just have an annoying personality. You don’t have to like their personality. If you find the whole thing strange, that’s okay too it’s just not for you. You can just move past it and focus on yourself.
Republicans keep bringing it up because they want to justify taking away trans people’s basic rights. Same rights you and I have. Then they want take away some of the rights gay people, women, certain races, and certain religions have gained over the last century. All people deserve dignity and equal access. When we police people’s inherent differences, we create a more dangerous society for ourselves.
If you have a penis you are a dude and should NEVER be in a real woman's private spaces... full stop.
David loving data wasn’t enough. He doesn’t have the political instinct to win in this environment because of his surroundings.
Villains of the week? Nish and Coco for joint press secretary?
Jesus you guys still can’t figure out your candidate was shit. “Democracy is on the line” so you decided to install a candidate and rig a 3rd straight primary. Jon acts like his shit doesn’t stink😂😂😂
He's a centrist millionaire.
@ he’s actually everything the voters hate. I watch him just to see how pretentious the elite actually are.
Your guest is naive to believe we will accept any ‘changes’ that go against normal conventions.
no.
No....
I don’t think there is a lesson to learn here. The money in politics, the divisive tactics by the parties, and the lack of accountability have left the population I think bitter and distrustful of everyone.
Im sad that the election went the way it did but I wonder if it was a vote for the villain you know?
When I talk to trumpers they know he’s a criminal but they don’t care.
Sort of like shaking the monopoly board to end the game
Bernie sanders would’ve won easily. In 2016, and 2024. You fight right wing populism with left wing populism! Not appeals to honor and protecting institutions and bipartisanship. Not hugging dick Cheney who had a 13% approval rating when he left office.
This is not rocket science. But left wing populism threatens dem elites cushy jobs and dems billionaire donors (like mark Cuban who Kamala idiotically campaigned with). They did twitch stream aimed at young people and had bernie on, great. But they had mark cuban and he started arguing how capital gains tax should be much lower than the income tax rate working people pay because billionaires like him take so much “risk” investing in companies. Any moron could tell you that’s horrible politics in general but especially for young progressive people
Better an honest criminal than a lying cop, or so they say.
Yes He, mentioned Mexican election.🇲🇽
34:19 OMG yes…..thank u!
Where do they want to depot Jon to 😂
Dont get it
All the bots are out
People who say inflation isnt bad frustrate the hell out if me. I almost paid 3 dollars for a can of soda the other day thars insane. The dollar store isnt even a dollar anymore 😂 and lets no even get into the insane costs of rent
Yeah but that's not inflation. It's price gouging. There's a huge difference. Google it.
Soda is like 2 -3 dollars everywhere. Tbh you shouldn't be drinking so much soda. Just drink more water. Which can be so much cheaper and healthier.
@hopeintruth5119 it's just an example. I drink unsweetened ice tea and that's expensive af too lol
Great guest, great interview! Please have him on more often, I really appreciated his POV.
A lot of this seems so much inside baseball and it lost me at several points. :/
You are
Lol everyone giving likes to the quarden bots.
Awesome
We're making this too complicated, the solution is simple. Democrats should just try to maximize black voter turnout. They need to start campaigning in Mississippi and Louisiana... HEAVY!!
How does anyone watch this bs
This guest is clearly “low information” … whatever their degrees read.
KAMALA SHOULD HAVE HER OWN PODCAST!.!….
And
invite all kinds of pod casters like you guys and other popular and contrasting issues with her….The World Needs To See And Learn More About Her!.!….To Be Comfortable With Her And Tim Walt….
Bahahahahaha... this post proves you have no clue who Harris is. No way could she be creative, authentic, or likeable. It was all an act. Her anxiety is off the charts and why she drinks so much.
YES!.! She has 4 FOUR years to talk over the tyranny of Chump, the 🍊guy ….
AND
To INFORM her constituents as a Vice President and till Jan. 20th a former VICE PRESIDENT ,
Of the things she accomplished as a Vice President with President Biden ….
AND ALSO
What Her Proposals Were During Her election….
AND more of WHO she really is…!.!.
@ Maybe she didn’t have the right electoral assistant plan….
She could have been more successful if she’d had more exposure and grow less dependent on her script by having her own PODCAST!.!….
On a lot of the points the 🍊guy did were things that were not true, because there was NOT a steady stream of information to EVERYONE, like the 🍊guy did to get his worshipers,
And he REALLY bank on whether the things he barfs 🤮 out his 🍊 mouth was true or not enough times people start to believe it!.!….
Kamala needs to get her groove on with repeating what it is and do it with
Nonsctripted swagger !.!….
Good conversation! Let's keep doing this!
A major problem is that politics is too big. One thing the Dems need to do is emphasize organizing and control on a local voting precinct level. The party should have offices and officers in every precinct. Precinct Captains and their immediate subordinates should act as pressure groups on every level
I'd support a Jon Favreau Katie Porter ticket! Presidential duties can be delegated, give me those daily 3 hour presidential shit list youtube videos straight into my veins!!!
AMLO is to the left in Mexico what Trump is to the right in the USA. We should not use him as an inspiration of what we need to do differently.
nobody cares about rules and norms and shit except nerds who wish they were in grad school
Yes we should AMLO is awesome, and Claudia sheinbaum was one of the only incumbent presidents who was re elected in the world because AMLO is so well loved in Mexico because he governed well despite the inflation. Literally the model for winning, you’d rather lose than have a left populist because we know left populism worked for AMLO and Claudia winning!
Kamala should not only have her own podcast but make it a requirement for allll people who are wanting to serve our country!.!….
What are your thoughts on the fact Americans are always trying to achieve and move up either financially and socially, whether a marginalized group or not, and part of that “moving on up” means leaving something behind? It seems that something we are leaving behind is the marginalized feeling. To have empathy seems kind of an unnatural aspect of the human condition in our cultural construct. I’m confused how government can create empathy for others. Certainly not campaigns.
Our party needs less hurt feelings and more winning SO WE CAN take care of everyone. Because we will! They wont. Remember that.
Great interview, Jon. Activism brings change but Harris didnt campaign on any of that. It just turns out that millions of Americans would rather have a narcissistic, lying, convicted felon/sexual predator insurrectionist grifter as president a second time rather than a smart, accomplished, empathic, qualified woman. Really makes me sad.
Quit focusing on Trump and start focusing on the people who lose elections to Trump.
@bigjared8946 let's analyze that....Hillary lost, then Biden won, then Harris lost. And between Biden and Harris, Trump tried to overthrow the government, was convicted in civil court of rape and was convicted of 34 felonies over payments to a porn actress. He's a despicable human who arguably caused the deaths of 1000s of people due to his mismanagement of covid. And still Americans thought he was better than a woman. I mean.....
What makes a person qualified to be president? According to the 2020 primaries, the VP had to drop out of the running for POTUS because she was going to lose her home state.
The article in the NYT was mainly on point. We tried to please everyone and got crushed. This strategy doesn’t work, for example Dearborn MI went for Trump, he got 44% and Kamala got 36%. Elections have consequences and the consequences for this group is going to be more settlements in the West Bank. I’m sorry but have you noticed the decline in viewership across left leaning content? We are exhausted and what we need is pragmatic, common sense leadership in the party that can win elections.
You are right!
Great conversation today Jon
He has food in his beard….
I think that is a metal spike. The true sign of an expert…