I'm so glad I put a purge drain pipe so I could jet wash the pipework occasionally, I too watch back some of the older videos from other youtubers. We're all good here mate. Enjoy the sunshine while it lasts 😁
Thanks lau, I was surprised how much come out after such a short time, I suspect it might be from that recent black algae I had. Hope your all keep safe 👍
@@DerbyKoi there is so much water and plants debris, fish waste, sometime a bit of food, dust and little algea going through the pipes. I bet you even if you were doing it once a month, you would still get stuff. Thanks for filming that, that was good, enjoyed it.
@@DerbyKoi I am going the get a 'thingy' for my pressure washer so I will clean the pipes before the winter. Just a question, you probably went through it right at the beginning, what made you go for that system?
Wish I'd watched this before building my pond, I have to disconnect half my pipework to clean my drain 😫 hopefully this will help others with there build. Thanks for the video pal
Good morning Andy just purchased some fok pond clay on e bay £29.95 for 1.5 kg no postage. Hope this is some help. Enjoying watching your channel Some great tips
Great vid Mucker, I’m gravity but this has been really useful as I may drop my pond lower into the ground sometime in the future which would mean switching to pump fed for me. From your tee piece to your pump have you just used a rubber pipe reducer? Cheers for posting this one👍👍
My opinion is gravity system is better all round, but I didn't have that option mate, where the filterhouse is there are utility pipes/drains, I had to have one moved si I could get the pond in (right headache) on reflection I could have probably fitted something in the pump house but you know how it is best plans and all that 😬. Gives me the incentive to build another pond maybe 🤔
Thanks for this really useful. I am building a new pond using a round plastic liner. I currently have a nexus that is pump fed and don’t want to dig down for the filter house so I can retain the pump fed system. I want a bottom drain though so was wondering if you can pump feed one like you have!
Hi mate without knowing more details of your intended setup its difficult to give a complete answer however you can just either pump or gravity fed from a bottom drain if your pond is above ground them a gravity fed system would be better. If pond is in the ground and you don't want to dig for the filter then so long as the pump is below water lever then pump fed will work. Andy👍
@@DerbyKoi thanks Andy. Yeah it will be a circular liner thats 1.2m deep with about 30cm protruding above ground. So should be fine really for a pumped setup with pump below water level.
I have fitted a purge pipe to clean the drain pipework which you'll see this fri and I would advise a ball valve to isolate the pond incase you need to change or work on your filters or god forbid leaks
I haven't mate, I've found the powerwash does a great job and doesn't take long, it looked more involved on the video because of filming, in reality it only takes a few mins, I like the bendy brush idea though for smaller pipework maybe 🤔. Thanks for watching stay safe 👍
Bit of a complicated and time consuming process but certainly seemed to do the trick. I'm fortunate that my filters are gravity fed through a 4" bottom drain directly into a vortex. I close the valve between the bottom drain and vortex, drain the vortex to remove any accumlated waste then open the valve to the drain and a huge rush of water floods the vortex bringing with it any debris that may have accumlated in the drain line. The pond is 5.5 ft deep and the inlet to the vortex approximately 3 ft below water level so lots of pressure to flush the drain. I clean my vortex every week so a bottom darin purge is part of the weekly process. Whole thing takes about 5 minutes to do.
To be fair it doesn't normally take long to do, the filming probably made it look so, I agree gravity is preferable but wasn't an option for me, although I have seen others with gravity systems that still power wash to remove even more debris. Thanks for watching stay safe 👍
Not everyone can have the luxury of a gravity fed system. My pond is ground level and it was here when we brought the house. So there is no way I can dig 5 foot down to sink a nexus and sieve into the ground
So Am i right in thinking your bottom drain is only “purging” at the rate of the pump via the small diameter pipe work? rather than 4” pipe work with the value opened and purged via gravity? Appreciate the muck in your bucket but how’d you really know how clean your bd pipe work is? Why don’t you purge after your ball valve outside via a T piece?
Your correct I'm purging at pump rate, but that's 10000 litres of water being drawn through a pipe which has been power washed, there is no way if knowing how clean it is without putting a camera through the system but I very much doubt it would be any cleaner than just opening a 4" tap and purging via gravity, but I appreciate your comments stay safe 👍
@@DerbyKoi I was thinking the pump could be too restrictive and may struggle passing any of the larger solids, do you have to strip this down also to check for blockages ?
No mate, I do strip and clean the pump yearly as part of my spring routine but its always been fairly clean, I think if I redesigned the pond and if funds allowed I would make quite a few changes now I've got a better understanding of koi keeping, it's my first pond build, but maybe in the future 🙏 I can build my dream pond. Cheers mate 👍
Cheers leon, I was a bit surprised how much come out, I only did it cuz a subscriber asked how to do it, but I'm glad now I did, are you going to the koi show in cov ?
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Re doing my set up Andy, always good to look back on old video's to see how people have set theirs up. Hope all is well with the family.
I'm so glad I put a purge drain pipe so I could jet wash the pipework occasionally, I too watch back some of the older videos from other youtubers. We're all good here mate. Enjoy the sunshine while it lasts 😁
Nice demo. It's so good to go through the filter system every now and again to remind and help people.
Thanks lau, I was surprised how much come out after such a short time, I suspect it might be from that recent black algae I had. Hope your all keep safe 👍
@@DerbyKoi there is so much water and plants debris, fish waste, sometime a bit of food, dust and little algea going through the pipes. I bet you even if you were doing it once a month, you would still get stuff.
Thanks for filming that, that was good, enjoyed it.
Yes you're correct, all we can do is try and keep things clean. I find having a beer after also helps 😬
@@DerbyKoi I am going the get a 'thingy' for my pressure washer so I will clean the pipes before the winter.
Just a question, you probably went through it right at the beginning, what made you go for that system?
Do you mean why I chose pump fed ?
That's it, I'm cleaning my drain the weekend, Thanks for giving me more work to do 🤣. Great video 👍
Very well designed and thought out! Easy peasy
Thanks Zach, I like easy peasy, just need full automation now 👍😬
@@DerbyKoi that takes the fun away from the hobby! Cleaning filters and getting mucky is what it's all about!
I totally agree, it all part of the hobby 👍
A good informative video mate, Keep them coming 👍👍👍, Take care, Terry.
Thanks Terry.
Jobs a Goodun 👍
Thanks for that Andy, very helpful video 👍👍👍
Thanks Jason, hope you got things sorted mate 👍
@@DerbyKoi all sorted thanks for the advice mate
Glad to hear, and your very welcome 👍
Wish I'd watched this before building my pond, I have to disconnect half my pipework to clean my drain 😫 hopefully this will help others with there build. Thanks for the video pal
Hopefully mate, there's things I'd change about my pond too, maybe that's for the next dream pond. Stay safe 👍
Great video Andy and very good advice on purging your drain stay safe 🙏🐟🐟🐟🐟🙏
Thanks Carol, I appreciate that 👍
Great update mate, it's surprising what's left in the pipework. Keep up the good work 👍👍👍
Cheers mate, I was surprised what was on there after just a few weeks, thanks for watching 👍
Awesome video mate 👍👍👍
Dang that's alot if pipe 😉😉😉
This is a koi channel not xxx movie, oh wait your referring to the "pipework" 😬 ooops 👍
@@DerbyKoi pmsl watcha like 😉😉😉👌👍👍👍
Innocent your honour 👮♂️🤐
@@DerbyKoi pah 😜😜😜
Really good informative video Andy, you definitely dont want that mess left in the drain 👍
Cheers mate, I agree mate it will only harbour bad bacteria 👍
@@DerbyKoi agreed 👍
Nice demo Andy ,purged mine other day ,WOW the smell was bad ,mine just comes straight out of the ball valve 👍🏻
Its amazing what gets trapped in there, we clean our filtration daily/weekly but leave the pipework sometimes for months. Makes you wonder 🤔
Do you ever get to relax lol, stay safe Andy & Bizley 😘
No time for relaxing, Bizley keeps me busy lol, hope your keeping safe.
Jobs a Goodun 👍
@@DerbyKoi ohhh Bizley is beautiful
Thank you, very helpful!!
Cheers Joseph, stay safe mate 👍
Good morning Andy just purchased some fok pond clay on e bay £29.95
for 1.5 kg no postage. Hope this is some help. Enjoying watching your channel
Some great tips
Cheers paul, I've ordered some, if it ever arrives 🤨, thanks for the tip I'll take a look and maybe order some for future use 👍
Interesting video Andy how your filter system works dirt better out than in keep up great work mate 👍
Cheers Dave, I agree mate, stay safe 👍
Great vid Mucker, I’m gravity but this has been really useful as I may drop my pond lower into the ground sometime in the future which would mean switching to pump fed for me. From your tee piece to your pump have you just used a rubber pipe reducer? Cheers for posting this one👍👍
Hi Paul yes i used a 4"-2" rubber reducer then a 2" hosetail so i can go into my eazypod. Andy
Hiya, It seems that a gravity fed system is easier to purge than a pumped system? Good upload and instructions as usual.. Every days a school day...😉👍
My opinion is gravity system is better all round, but I didn't have that option mate, where the filterhouse is there are utility pipes/drains, I had to have one moved si I could get the pond in (right headache) on reflection I could have probably fitted something in the pump house but you know how it is best plans and all that 😬. Gives me the incentive to build another pond maybe 🤔
Thanks for this really useful. I am building a new pond using a round plastic liner. I currently have a nexus that is pump fed and don’t want to dig down for the filter house so I can retain the pump fed system. I want a bottom drain though so was wondering if you can pump feed one like you have!
Hi mate without knowing more details of your intended setup its difficult to give a complete answer however you can just either pump or gravity fed from a bottom drain if your pond is above ground them a gravity fed system would be better. If pond is in the ground and you don't want to dig for the filter then so long as the pump is below water lever then pump fed will work. Andy👍
@@DerbyKoi thanks Andy. Yeah it will be a circular liner thats 1.2m deep with about 30cm protruding above ground. So should be fine really for a pumped setup with pump below water level.
I have fitted a purge pipe to clean the drain pipework which you'll see this fri and I would advise a ball valve to isolate the pond incase you need to change or work on your filters or god forbid leaks
Best way 👍👍
Cheers mate, stay safe 👍
Interesting video have you tried a long bendy brush to dislodge debris I'm sure I've seen that sort of thing somewhere ??
I haven't mate, I've found the powerwash does a great job and doesn't take long, it looked more involved on the video because of filming, in reality it only takes a few mins, I like the bendy brush idea though for smaller pipework maybe 🤔. Thanks for watching stay safe 👍
Some great advice as usual. Interesting how bad it was after only a short time, could it be that recent slimy algae maybe?
Thanks Graeme, yea I was thinking the same thing. Glad I did it now. Stay safe mate 👍
Bit of a complicated and time consuming process but certainly seemed to do the trick. I'm fortunate that my filters are gravity fed through a 4" bottom drain directly into a vortex. I close the valve between the bottom drain and vortex, drain the vortex to remove any accumlated waste then open the valve to the drain and a huge rush of water floods the vortex bringing with it any debris that may have accumlated in the drain line. The pond is 5.5 ft deep and the inlet to the vortex approximately 3 ft below water level so lots of pressure to flush the drain. I clean my vortex every week so a bottom darin purge is part of the weekly process. Whole thing takes about 5 minutes to do.
To be fair it doesn't normally take long to do, the filming probably made it look so, I agree gravity is preferable but wasn't an option for me, although I have seen others with gravity systems that still power wash to remove even more debris. Thanks for watching stay safe 👍
Not everyone can have the luxury of a gravity fed system. My pond is ground level and it was here when we brought the house. So there is no way I can dig 5 foot down to sink a nexus and sieve into the ground
So Am i right in thinking your bottom drain is only “purging” at the rate of the pump via the small diameter pipe work? rather than 4” pipe work with the value opened and purged via gravity? Appreciate the muck in your bucket but how’d you really know how clean your bd pipe work is? Why don’t you purge after your ball valve outside via a T piece?
Your correct I'm purging at pump rate, but that's 10000 litres of water being drawn through a pipe which has been power washed, there is no way if knowing how clean it is without putting a camera through the system but I very much doubt it would be any cleaner than just opening a 4" tap and purging via gravity, but I appreciate your comments stay safe 👍
@@DerbyKoi I was thinking the pump could be too restrictive and may struggle passing any of the larger solids, do you have to strip this down also to check for blockages ?
No mate, I do strip and clean the pump yearly as part of my spring routine but its always been fairly clean, I think if I redesigned the pond and if funds allowed I would make quite a few changes now I've got a better understanding of koi keeping, it's my first pond build, but maybe in the future 🙏 I can build my dream pond. Cheers mate 👍
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Hi Andy, I’ve sent msg over on your last video but doesn’t seem to come up 🤦🏻so I’m trying here 🤣
Hi mate, I can see this message but the others are greyed out and says no longer available, been having probs with TH-cam studio, very frustrating 😡
Strange I just commented with yours and Leon’s chat which shows 🤦🏻
Yeah I can see that one too, I'm not the only TH-camr having problems either 🤨.
Maybe it's a copyright thing lol
@@DerbyKoi 🤣🤣🤣
Cant do better than putting the pressure washer down it from time to time
Cheers Martyn, couldn't agree more 👍
I had a curry last night can I lend your karcher to purge my bottom drain 🤣
It's not powerful enough mate, here's someone who may help. Www. Dino rod extreme. Com. 😂
@@DerbyKoi 🤣🤣. Nice one mate it really pull out some crap 👌👍
Cheers leon, I was a bit surprised how much come out, I only did it cuz a subscriber asked how to do it, but I'm glad now I did, are you going to the koi show in cov ?
@@DerbyKoi no mate I'm going to the byer diaries grow and show on Saturday not sure if they clash. Are you coming to the byer g & s ?
No mate, maybe next time, have you entered or just looking