The PAS has two modes your options are mode 0 and mode 1 Mode 1 is the regular mode that you want by default it’s in mode 0 so you must go into settings and put it in mode 1 . This will give the following speeds Eco: 15 mph. Stnd : 28 mph. Turbo: 37 mph
This is the piece of information I was missing: each of the modes (eco/standard/turbo) has it's own speed limit. I just tested on this unit by propping up the back wheel, I got 15 on eco, 22 on standard, and 37 on turbo. How much speed it can actually achieve under normal use I cannot speak to. The 22 MPH I can believe. The 37 seems like a stretch, though the motor did sound like it had considerably more power when switched to turbo compared to eco or standard. It would be nice if this information was listed in the instruction manual!
The throttle response is a controller issue It might be able to change in p-settings but most likely meant as a safety feature Can get a higher end controller that is programmable so you can map the throttle
The pedal assist has two kinds of sensors You are wanting the more expensive kind Cadence sensor is what you have on there Need a torque sensor if you want it to add power depending on the pressure you apply to the pedals One you have is common on e-bikes and definitely this one because it was never really intended for pedaling You can easily switch to a torque sensor but my guess is unless you trim the seat cushion back to be narrower and add some gears it won’t be pleasant to pedal anyway Thanks for the review A lot of the things you are mentioning as issues are just the way most bikes come stock. You can upgrade literally everything to the specs you want You can buy them like that stock but would be a lot more expensive and again this frame and bike was intended as a throttle only with pedals just to make it legal Torque sensor though if you want to pedal without ghost pedaling being an issue and exercise being your goal
That’s weird but if it helps here’s a video from the manufacturer on how to remove the limit th-cam.com/video/o1t1wz07F9g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pO_4dxjgJihnPdp2
Thank you for the review I always wanted one where I could afford plus the pedals making it more legal in my country so it's definitely my best edirtbike choice
The pedal "assist" is not there to actually be used. It's there to bypass police especially where it's illegal to ride these with pegs only. Also the throttle is like that for safety reasons. Too many people accidentally pull on it and the bikes takes off without them lol. You also need to remove the speed limiter and it allows you to use Turbo mode which goes up 37 MPH. The riding times has a TH-cam that shows you how to do it.
Thanks for this bro. Been thinking about this bike for commuting to work. Thanks so much for the dope info and content and visuals. 🙏🏾👏🏾🤙🏾 #addedtocart
The Back Light Is only there so people can see you so that's probably why it's not too bright. With that being said it appears to be decent bike despite the poor quality of the electronics. Not sure why it is electronic but that's fine.
It's impossible to say what you can expect as it will vary depending on the travel conditions. Going up a lot of hills paired with lots of stopping and accelerating will probably cut the charge distance in half or less.
@@JordanU Now I live in Poland, and the weather is normal here, not cold, so I didn't go there and unfortunately on my personal tests in a ridiculous speed mode, it was enough for only 60 km and I drove in the city on bike paths and +- on a flat road. And I can't understand either I got a defective electric bike or the manufacturer exaggerated the power reserve too much if .I translate the text through a translator so it may be poorly translated
@@Nazar-oh5ep My guess would be exaggerated specifications by the manufacturer. Most of the time, the way manufacturers test products results in performance that's far superior to what can be expected from the average user. I had this in mind when I bought it, and wouldn't be surprised if the actual performance is only half of what it claims due to the terrain in my area. In the future I will report back how long it takes to go through the whole charge, but again your results will likely vary from mine.
Regarding the Range Per Charge: From my testing, I have achieved about 35 miles/charge when combined riding on paved roads and off-road trails. I suspect if you stay on the road and conditions are relatively flat, you would be able to achieve upwards of 50 miles/charge. Time on a trail in muddy conditions, particularly climbing hills, goes through the charge very quickly. Riding'times does not describe how the testing was performed, but like most products, it was likely tested under ideal conditions that result in the most efficient operation -- conditions unlikely to be matched in a real-world use case. Manufacturers not testing products in ways that are similar to what can reasonably be expected in a real-world use case is a major problem and something we see today across almost all product categories from almost all brands. Here is a more thorough video discussion on this topic: th-cam.com/video/FKN51Y8e37w/w-d-xo.html
That's the whole idea of pedals in these bigger batteries ebikes nowadays. It's to play with the law. Sure you could pedal but who would wanna pedal a 100-200lbs bike intentionally.
The PAS has two modes your options are mode 0 and mode 1 Mode 1 is the regular mode that you want by default it’s in mode 0 so you must go into settings and put it in mode 1 . This will give the following speeds Eco: 15 mph. Stnd : 28 mph. Turbo: 37 mph
This is the piece of information I was missing: each of the modes (eco/standard/turbo) has it's own speed limit. I just tested on this unit by propping up the back wheel, I got 15 on eco, 22 on standard, and 37 on turbo. How much speed it can actually achieve under normal use I cannot speak to. The 22 MPH I can believe. The 37 seems like a stretch, though the motor did sound like it had considerably more power when switched to turbo compared to eco or standard. It would be nice if this information was listed in the instruction manual!
Cool bike bro glad you got it can't wait to see you ride it soon
Unfortunately it will probably have to wait until the Spring, it's just too cold out now around here.
The throttle response is a controller issue
It might be able to change in p-settings but most likely meant as a safety feature
Can get a higher end controller that is programmable so you can map the throttle
The pedal assist has two kinds of sensors
You are wanting the more expensive kind
Cadence sensor is what you have on there
Need a torque sensor if you want it to add power depending on the pressure you apply to the pedals
One you have is common on e-bikes and definitely this one because it was never really intended for pedaling
You can easily switch to a torque sensor but my guess is unless you trim the seat cushion back to be narrower and add some gears it won’t be pleasant to pedal anyway
Thanks for the review
A lot of the things you are mentioning as issues are just the way most bikes come stock. You can upgrade literally everything to the specs you want
You can buy them like that stock but would be a lot more expensive and again this frame and bike was intended as a throttle only with pedals just to make it legal
Torque sensor though if you want to pedal without ghost pedaling being an issue and exercise being your goal
That’s a very nice bike I had a riding times 1500 W E bike and then I decided to upgrade to a ride star that goes 45 miles an hour
Thanks for letting me know.
@ how fast does that one go?
@@crazygarageguy6967 According to the box it caps at 25 MPH.
@@JordanU cool
There is only really a delay for the throttle in turbo mode and it’s a safety thing 16:19
How do you turn off the safety thing?
@ you can’t
In fact, the actual top speed is 37 mph and number one in settings is to turn the speed limit off
1 is of 0 is on to clarify
According to the box, the maximum speed is 25 MPH.
That’s weird but if it helps here’s a video from the manufacturer on how to remove the limit th-cam.com/video/o1t1wz07F9g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pO_4dxjgJihnPdp2
Get a different remote
@@jacobortwine7063 I don't know what you're talking about.
Thank you for the review I always wanted one where I could afford plus the pedals making it more legal in my country so it's definitely my best edirtbike choice
You're welcome.
What is the range bro? The p mode means park man.
The range is about 155 miles
It claims 85 miles/charge, which will vary depending on conditions.
Thank u I love the view that u took of the bike
Awesome review. What are dimensions of the actual battery? Wanting to see if a larger single battery can be used. 5.5x6.5x15 inches
They're not much smaller than the dimensions you listed, probably around 15x4x6.
The pedal "assist" is not there to actually be used. It's there to bypass police especially where it's illegal to ride these with pegs only. Also the throttle is like that for safety reasons. Too many people accidentally pull on it and the bikes takes off without them lol. You also need to remove the speed limiter and it allows you to use Turbo mode which goes up 37 MPH. The riding times has a TH-cam that shows you how to do it.
I had suspicions it had something to do with road legality and wasn't intended to actually be used.
is there any way to make it go faster in the settings?
Same
Thanks for this bro.
Been thinking about this bike for commuting to work.
Thanks so much for the dope info and content and visuals. 🙏🏾👏🏾🤙🏾
#addedtocart
You're welcome.
The Back Light Is only there so people can see you so that's probably why it's not too bright. With that being said it appears to be decent bike despite the poor quality of the electronics. Not sure why it is electronic but that's fine.
You have to understand its goal is to be a very affordable bike not to compete against surron or any other powerful ebike/emoto
@@specunit9274 Good point. I didn't think about that.
These are all electronic, because they're powered by the electricity.
can it wheelie
How long would it last riding 700miles a month?
I have no way of knowing at this time.
Can u swap the pedals with pegs
Yes, comes with both.
@@JordanUcan u show the pegs it comes with?
How do u put the pegs in
an you please make a video about the power reserve, for example, how much it will be able to drive on a full charge at a speed of 25/35/60 km/h
It's impossible to say what you can expect as it will vary depending on the travel conditions. Going up a lot of hills paired with lots of stopping and accelerating will probably cut the charge distance in half or less.
@@JordanU Now I live in Poland, and the weather is normal here, not cold, so I didn't go there and unfortunately on my personal tests in a ridiculous speed mode, it was enough for only 60 km and I drove in the city on bike paths and +- on a flat road. And I can't understand either I got a defective electric bike or the manufacturer exaggerated the power reserve too much if .I translate the text through a translator so it may be poorly translated
@@Nazar-oh5ep My guess would be exaggerated specifications by the manufacturer. Most of the time, the way manufacturers test products results in performance that's far superior to what can be expected from the average user. I had this in mind when I bought it, and wouldn't be surprised if the actual performance is only half of what it claims due to the terrain in my area. In the future I will report back how long it takes to go through the whole charge, but again your results will likely vary from mine.
Do a ride vid
I will when we get some warmer days.
Regarding the Range Per Charge:
From my testing, I have achieved about 35 miles/charge when combined riding on paved roads and off-road trails. I suspect if you stay on the road and conditions are relatively flat, you would be able to achieve upwards of 50 miles/charge. Time on a trail in muddy conditions, particularly climbing hills, goes through the charge very quickly.
Riding'times does not describe how the testing was performed, but like most products, it was likely tested under ideal conditions that result in the most efficient operation -- conditions unlikely to be matched in a real-world use case. Manufacturers not testing products in ways that are similar to what can reasonably be expected in a real-world use case is a major problem and something we see today across almost all product categories from almost all brands.
Here is a more thorough video discussion on this topic: th-cam.com/video/FKN51Y8e37w/w-d-xo.html
I like it
OK
Does it have pedal assist? If so how many levels?
Watch video/read description, this is discussed in both...
Don’t mind if I ask what was your top speed
It cuts out at 21 MPH for me. I have not yet attempted to remove the speed limit.
Send it to me
No
I own one and I don’t have the issues you have, you might just have a lemon
Yours came with a better manual?
@ No, but the videos on the bike they posted helped a lot.
I have since watched some of them.
@@Jovx___ yes lol I didn't even bother with the manual it came with. The videos are the actual manual
Pedals in this is just for show
That does seem to be the case.
That's the whole idea of pedals in these bigger batteries ebikes nowadays. It's to play with the law. Sure you could pedal but who would wanna pedal a 100-200lbs bike intentionally.
@@specunit9274 On flat ground, I would for the exercise.