EP013: The Genealogy of Genesis 10 | The Divine Council Worldview Podcast
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- In this episode, Ronn and Mike discuss Genesis 10’s genealogical record between Noah and Abraham. They begin by noting that the story of the curse of Canaan (Ham’s son) likely lays the foundation for Joshua’s later confrontation with pagan worhsip in land of Canaan. They then work their way through the lists of names and tribes in Genesis 10, observing the geographical locations settled by the sons of Noah. More importantly, they show how the text hints toward the loss of Yahweh-worship during this critical period of history. The episode ends at the foot of the Tower of Babel, predicting how this event will lead not only to the division of human language, but to the establishment of the worship of other gods through the known world.
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Great episode, guys. Sets up the foundation of the Deuteronomy 32 worldview.
Another biblical story that strengthens the idea that Ham had relations with his mother is Absolom had relations with his father's concubines as a display of patriarchal dominance.
This was a different take on the average teaching you usually hear in church. Thank you.
The "Chart of Nations" in Genesis 10 is described as a list of *70 nations, traditionally derived from the descendants of Noah's three sons: **Japheth, Ham, and Shem*. Here is the list according to the biblical account:
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### *Descendants of Japheth (14 nations)*
1. Gomer
2. Magog
3. Madai
4. Javan
5. Tubal
6. Meshech
7. Tiras
- *Sons of Gomer*:
8. Ashkenaz
9. Riphath
10. Togarmah
- *Sons of Javan*:
11. Elisha
12. Tarshish
13. Kittim
14. Dodanim (Rodanim in some translations)
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### *Descendants of Ham (30 nations)*
1. Cush
2. Mizraim (Egypt)
3. Put
4. Canaan
- *Sons of Cush*:
5. Seba
6. Havilah
7. Sabta
8. Raama
9. Sabteca
- *Sons of Raama*:
10. Seba
11. Dedan
- *Descendants of Mizraim*:
12. Ludim
13. Anamim
14. Lehabim
15. Naphtuhim
16. Pathrusim
17. Casluim
18. Caphtorim
- *Descendants of Canaan*:
19. Sidon (firstborn)
20. Hittites
21. Jebusites
22. Amorites
23. Girgashites
24. Hivites
25. Arkites
26. Sinites
27. Arvadites
28. Zemarites
29. Hamathites
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### *Descendants of Shem (26 nations)*
1. Elam
2. Ashur
3. Arphaxad
4. Lud
5. Aram
- *Sons of Aram*:
6. Uz
7. Hul
8. Gether
9. Mas (Mesch in some translations)
- *Descendants of Arphaxad*:
10. Selah
11. Eber
- *Sons of Eber*:
12. Peleg (in whose days the earth was divided)
13. Joktan
- *Sons of Joktan*:
14. Almodad
15. Sheleph
16. Hazar-maveth
17. Jerah
18. Hadoram
19. Uzal
20. Diclah
21. Obal
22. Abimael
23. Sheba
24. Ophir
25. Havilah
26. Jobab
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### *Summary of Nations*
- Japheth: 14 nations
- Ham: 30 nations
- Shem: 26 nations
*Total: 70 nations*
This list symbolizes the dispersion of humanity after the Flood and provides the biblical framework for understanding the origins of ancient peoples and nations.
Sooner or later people are going to have to face the fact that the continents broke apart in the days of Peleg, 100 years after the global flood. An asteroid hitting the earth could have been a contributing factor along with the centrifugal force of the spinning Earth which caused the continents to slide north as a result. South Africa appears to be where the South Pole was before the breakup.
* It’s the reason for the glacial striations stamped on top of the bedrock like a gigantic (broken) seal covering South America, Africa, India and Australia from glaciers that were moving from south to north from the time when the continents were all still connected to Antarctica at the South Pole. Of course, again, this was after all the sediment layers from the global flood were deposited.
* It’s the reason fossils including those of Spinosaurus and the sediment layers line up between South America, Africa, Madagascar, India and Australia. (The fossils and sediment layers were deposited first and then the continents broke apart, 100 years after the global flood.)
* It’s also the reason there are many frozen animals and entire forest ecosystems buried by tsunamis from the rise of sea levels in North America and Siberia as the continents were being shoved into the Arctic from the centrifugal force after the earth broke apart, possibly due to hardening of the sediment layers and other contributing factors.
* It’s the reason animals made it to South America from Africa and humans did not make it there since they were still trying to build the Tower of Babel before the breakup of the continents. However jaguars were separated from leopards, greater grisons were separated from African honey badgers, tapirs were separated from …tapirs, otters were separated from …otters and all of the other animals arrived at various isolated places around the world before the breakup of the continents.
* It’s the reason why the lifespan of humans was cut in half *a second time* since the global flood from less than a 500 year lifespan to less than a 250 year lifespan. It was a time of dramatic changes to the environment.
* It’s the reason why the meaning of the word Peleg in Hebrew that meant “divided” turned into “as (or where) the waters flow” (in between the continents) in the later Aramaic form of Hebrew. That’s quite an impressive but understandable change in meaning considering such chatostrofic events.
* It’s the reason people isolated into family groups and began speaking their own languages. (Everything that happens is of course ultimately by the power of God.)
* It’s the reason for the formation of the Marianas trench and other subduction zones. The potential for movements of the plates and continents is very likely considering the volumes associated with them. It wouldn’t take much geologically speaking to get them to move although they have reached a place of equilibrium at this point.
* It’s the reason there are dinosaur footprints showing that a dinosaur began walking in Africa and the same dinosaur continues walking in South America also showing that the breakup of the continents happened after the sediments were deposited by the global flood.
*Last but not least, it’s the reason penguins from Antarctica never made it to the Arctic. The penguins found there were buried by tsunamis and apparently never recovered in the Arctic. …And now you know the rest of the story, the whole story.
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The coastland people of the Mediterranean were mostly the descendants of Javan: Elishah Dodanim Kittim and Tarshish. Then there were also the descendants of Riphath the son of Gomer who were also in the Mediterranean. The Medes were also present there as well as the Assyrian descendants. Some other Egyptians and Cushites were there as well as the namesake of the Phoenicians, the descendants of Phut.
Each human lineage is its own study considering that we are what remains of Noah’s three sons and their wives. The Cohen modal haplotype identifies the Semitic IJ lineage of Aaron, Levi, Jacob, Abraham, Arphaxad and Shem. The other two main groups are the Eurasian K group and the Hamitic AB C D and E1 E2 & E3. The C lineage that can only be from the House of the great Hamitic King Nimrod the son of Cush in Asia identifies the Hamitic lineages which includes the D lineage from the Canaanite tribe of Sin/Sinim. Everything else is by following the known migrations of people.
Since we are apparently looking into genealogies and history, enough with so much disinformation. *Neanderthals are Eurasians.* Europeans have less Neanderthals DNA than Asians because most maternal lineages of Europeans are Semitic while Asians have more Eurasian mtDNA. Denisovans are a mix of Eurasians and the Sino Canaanite tribe of Sinim with the D Y-hg in Asia and or the House of King Nimrod’s descendants with the C Y-hg both of which are Hamitic and both are in the area of the Denisovan cave. They are Canaanite and Cushite lineages. The *original* Hittites were also Canaanite.
Neanderthals, who had a larger genome than what we have today, were Eurasians that were descended from Japheth and the Denisovans are a mix of Eurasians and Canaanites and or Cushites descended from Ham. We know this because of the people living today who have Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA. Sumerians were Assyrians and Akkadian descendants of Nimrod since Assyrians and Nimrod are linked together in history.
DNA migrations show that Native Americans crossed the Atlantic to Central America from the Mediterranean Sea. There are four or more separate haplogroup lineages that show this migration route, the A C&D maternal mtDNA lineages and the Q paternal Y chromosomal lineage as well as probably the C paternal Y-hg lineage made this same Atlantic crossing to Central America and then all of these lineages spread north and south from Central America. The Inuit also with the Q Y-hg crossed by way of the Bering Strait hunting whales and seals.
People are ignoring actual known human history. The actual historical records and DNA migrations show that everyone spread out from Mesopotamia. Ancient history is essential for everyone to know, especially that of the sixteen original civilizations… that are from the sixteen grandsons of Noah. Everyone should learn ancient history before trying to learn science. The following are the paternal Y chromosome haplogroups that make the most sense.
1. The first inhabitants of Italy (K) Tubal
2. Thracians (L) Tiras
3. Greek sea people (T) Javan
4. Siberians & East Asians (NO) Magog
5. East Europeans & Asians (P) Meshek
6. Medes (Q) Madai
7. Western Europeans (R) Gomer
8. Hebrews & Arabic (IJ) Arphaxad
9. Elamites (H) Elam
10. Assyrians (G) Asshur
11. Arameans (F) Aram
12. Lydians (F2) Lud
13. Cushites (AB, C) Cush
14. Egyptians (E3) Mitzrayim
15. Canaanites (E2, D) Canaan
16. Original N. African Phoenicians (E1) Phut
The sons of Javan T Y-hg became a significant part of the Mediterranean Sea people and the later Phoenicians. The original Greeks were L Y-hg Thracians. Uyghurs are Judaic. Tibetans are Hamitic descendants of Canaan the same as the Ainu Japanese and Andamanese.
The only way to determine the actual paternal lineages is with the Y chromosome. E1 is Phut, E2 is Canaan and E3 is Mitzrayim. The descendants of Cush are A B and C with C being the descendants of the great House of King Nimrod the first King of the world (with his many descendants reinforcing his genes) which was from Akkad in Mesopotamia to Assyria otherwise known as the Sumer. The many descendants of Nimrod later spread to the Americas, the Pacific islands and South Asia. It’s the reason Olmec statues often appear Polynesian since they share the same common ancestor with Polynesians. In Europe it’s the C1 Y-hg lineage, in the Pacific islands it’s the C2, in the Americas it’s the C3, in Australia it’s the C4 and in Asia it’s C5.
The D paternal Y-hg Sino tribe of Sin descendants of Canaan migrated from Canaan through the land of Sin/Sinai and then east to Andaman Islands, China, all the way to Japan and Tibet where these Sino descendants are found today. The other Hamitic C paternal Y-hg descendants of Nimrod migrated as far as South Asia, Australia, the Pacific, Mongolia, Europe and all the way to the Americas *by way of Atlantic* accounting for the Olmec civilization in Central America along with the Q Y-hg descendants of Madai ancestor of the Medes that also crossed the Atlantic to Central America along with the maternal lineages of A C and D.
The A *maternal* haplogroup belonging to the *Semitic* N mtDNA lineage accompanied the Eurasian Q *paternal* Y-hg to Central America. The C&D maternal haplogroups belonging to the *Eurasian* M lineage also accompanied the Atlantic crossing of the Q paternal Y-hg Medes and probably the C paternal Y-hg to Central America. The Semitic B maternal mtDNA haplogroup seems to have crossed on the other side via the Pacific Ocean to South America.
The Mediterranean *paternal* R1b and the *maternal* X2a (also found in Galilee) represent yet another Atlantic y crossing of the later Phoenicians in the days of King Solomon considering also the additional Mediterranean paternal Y chromosome haplogroups of T, G, I1, I2, J1, J2, E and B found in Native Americans today *in addition* to the Mediterranean R1b found in Native American Populations. J1 and J2 are Arabs and Hebrews. I1 is most likely the tribe of Dan and I2 resembles the movements of the sailing tribe of Asher. The T Y-hg is the Mediterranean Greek Sea people who became Phoenicians. (E and B are Hamitic and G is Assyrian from Asshur.)
Of course there are also the Cohen, 50% of which are J1 P58 known as the Cohen modal haplotype which identifies the IJ paternal lineage of Hebrews and Arabs that are descended from Arphaxad. J2 M172 is the largest group of descendants probably of the House of the kings David *and* Solomon. Now you know a lot more of what is now verified human history.n
The mtDNA maternal lineage of the out of Africa claim goes from African to Eurasian and then to Semitic while the Y chromosome lineage goes from African to Semitic and then Eurasian. So according to that Africans produced Semitic males and Eurasian females who then produced Eurasian males and Semitic females completely invalidating the Out of Africa claim. *The reality is that all of these various lineages had to have existed simultaneously.*
I wasn’t sure if I could use F, K and P for a while. The problem is that they are actual individual populations and lineages since F is literally two *separate* lineages. We can’t have people without a lineage designated to them so they are the large group and they are also individual lineages sharing a common ancestor.
With F, it’s not that a marker is being gained going from left to right. The markers are being lost going from right to left. This is what makes identifying people so confusing. IJ has the IJK marker of their common ancestor with K that is lost to the HIJK lineage which is subsequently lost to the GHIJK lineage which is in turn lost to the FGHIJK lineage which is lost to the CF CT lineage which is *already* “X-DE” and lost to the AB lineages.
Mike is doing his best to jump in… 😂
Is there an email I could send a question to?
Unfortunately it is very difficult to listen to two people having a conversation.
We are just going to forget that Melchizedek is a Canaanite and correct he didn't worship YHWH he worshiped the Most High. They all did this, which is why YHWH did not use someone from there but Jacob, who was from outside of the land of Canaan. YHWH is not the Most High.
Many would disagree with your statement. Abraham was not an Israelite but God chose him.
Oh these nutcase statements.... 🙄
@MRETV-rm1bh the bible clearly states he chose Jacob.
@@ElizabethV01NOR what that Melchizedek was a Canaanite?