Linux Based 4K Satellite Receiver - Mutant HD51 - (Enigma2/OpenViX)
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- === Apologies for the re-upload, had to redact some copyrighted TV that was showing in the previous version! ===
In this video we take a look at the Mutant HD51 4K satellite receiver which runs an OS based on Linux. There is a large number of different Linux "images" available for boxes like this such as "OpenVix," "OpenATV," "OpenPli" and "HDMU." I ended up going with OpenVix which is what I'm demonstrating in this video although most of these images can achieve the same functionality if you were to install the appropriate plugins.
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Apologies for the re-upload. The previous video showed some live TV which caused copyright issues. I have therefore re-uploaded this version with all live TV blurred out. Unfortunately this means that it isn't really possible for you to view the quality of the TV stream but from my experience it looks just as good as any other satellite TV receiver would when viewing Live TV, recordings or timeshifted TV.
Cameron Gray I thought this was a part 2 hehe.
TH-cam can recognise live tv embedded in a video days after its been recorded?
The identified content was from the 4k demo channel I was demonstrating which broadcasts sample clips which are licenced from the copyright holder. Many of the same clips are also present on TH-cam so it was probably picked up as a match against an existing TH-cam video. I can't imagine more traditional TV such as a news broadcast being detected in the same way. I just ended up redacting absolutely everything just to play on the safe side.
It's annoying but oh well, now I know for the future!
Should have fallen under fair use 😟
Yes it should be 'fair use' but TH-cam is overlyprotecive when it comes to that stuff :(.
Those cables are made in a process called overmouldung . The wires are inserted into a injection moulded carrier and then go through a second moulding step to add the outer cladding. The issue with the cheap sata adaptors is the alignment of the power pins.. typically the Shenzhen manufacturers use well used mould tools which causes poor positioning of the internal components
huh, i remember tv, this brings me back :3 interesting video!
Excited to see a new video, love your content. Slightly dissapointed again because I like the stuff you review but it always seems to be a product that is only for sale in Europe.
Absolutely brilliant video bro. I'm blown away. Clear, consice and on point. No rambling and me me me talk. If your reading this, like, share and subscribe! Thankyou Cameron.
I wish we had stuff like this in the US. I would love more control over media in the household. Alas, when you get and satellite or cable variant you are locked into their equipment for the most part. You can get CableCard tuners but they are pretty locked down. OTA is viable but limited where I live.
Love the content, Cameron. My wife loves to listen to you speak. She has a thing for the Scottish burr.
Peace and respect to you and yours!
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Thanks! May be worth taking a look at what satellites you can receive in the US and see if you can find a list of FTA channels available on them. Thankfully in the UK, FTA TV is pretty common and you'd only really need to pay for a subscription service to get some specific entertainment channels or for things like sports/movies.
I was just about to ask in comments, can you get these satellite signals in the US? I used a cablecard once in a TIVO and it was like pulling teeth with the cable company. I guess I don't understand what kind of signals this video is talking about, can you point me to something? Thanks.
Also, nice Pink Floyd icon.
It will come down entirely to what satellites are available form your location and whether they broadcast any FTA channels. The satellites I'm using here (Astra 2 28.2E) are only available within Europe. Unfortunately I don't know anything about the US market but you can probably find lists of satellites and available channels online.
OK. Now that I'm farther in the video, I heard you say that they also have cable tuners. I wonder if something common like Comcast in the states would support something like this. Probably not. I've switched mostly to online streams anyway (DirecTV NOW is awesome!)
Very interesting bit of kit!
Another question sorry.
If i dont have a dish what dish do i need to install ?
Hey Cameron! Any chance on an update video of any pros and cons you've had with it? Thanks man
Can the STB use Videoguard Viewing cards?
im working with marine electronics , and i have recently recieved an antenna dish with 2 motors for satellite tracking control. I wanted a linux based reciever because im already useing linux and i thought the configuration of parameters and beeing able to use the programs i already have would make alot of sence.
But i find it hard to find a configureable linux reciever witch is able to control antenna engines , but i am kind of a newbie when it comes to this subject.
My question is , when you say "satellite tuners" , do you refer to a dish witch is controlled my engines ? or the LNB itself?
And if not , is there a reciever you would advice me to look more in to?
The whole purpose of this is learning. Thank you
Hi. On this box possible ad newcamd codes?.
what the position of the antenna is pointing
love the web login features on the mutant hd51, could i put my sky card in it ? and would i need to drop the card back into the old box every month for a night to update the card ?
hey another bigclive fan. was watching this vid cause I'm going to buy a HD51. I saw another video where the remote control was identical to the remote control of the HD500c but yours is having a different remote control. Hoping I find a seller selling the HD51 with the old style remote :(
Can you use optusd1 satellite?
Great review 😎👌
Is it available in Amazon market and what it price?
can it handle motor equipped dishes ?
You said about molded sata cable connections, are you meaning both data and power cables molded together? My Seasonic psu has sata power cables molded from power supply. It's when you use adapters from molex to Sata you have to wath out for.
The molex to SATA (or other adapters) with the moulded connectors definitely seem to be the worse offenders as they are made so cheaply (seemingly with limited quality control) but personally I try to avoid them whenever possible just to be safe. Hopefully the ones on a name brand PSU are made to a decent enough standard. Also came across them in a few Supermicro servers at work but hoping those will be okay.
So could this replace my sky + box. Because of the card reader. Im moveing houses and we want to tech the place out and i have a few mini pc's and i was gonna use the http viewing feature to share channels to each tv.
I definitely wouldn't recommend using a Sky viewing card with one of these, it will almost certainly go against Sky's terms of service. You also risk issues such as the card becoming deactivated as Sky automatically updates data on viewing cards and keeps them active using satellite transmissions. Sounds like for your situation you would be much better off with something like Sky Q.
The local network operator blocked CCCam lines. Is it possible to install a VPN on a Linux OS receiver?
Can hd51 open 4k 4.2.2 feed
Thanks for the video Cameron. I've got one of these boxes connected with a standard aerial, no satelite, and I'm using Freeview. Its a setup to replace a very old Sony HDD/DVD recorder + Sony freeview receiver. The channel selection and ordering, even with bouquets, is different than that of my fathers TV freeview settings. I'm just wondering if anyone else has a similar problem and how this can be corrected. Is there another App? How does a TV work out its freeview list of channels? The difference I find annoying. I agree the unit is very responsive, I do wonder how long the remote control will last as is feels cheap.
Update: Unable to upgrade the software. Anyone got this working? Which USB stick did you use?
I wonder if it's possible to use Kodi instead of the offered firmware. Something like LibreELEC
I'm not aware of any builds for a box like this although I imagine it would be possible to build something yourself. There are however Android based satellite receivers that I've seen which may be a better option if you wanted Kodi.
That EPG skin looks nice. Can you record from EPG the same way as Directv/Sky does? Without manually setting begin and end time, and with possibility to record all episodes of the show selected.
Is there a similar box that supports freeview and 4K? Plus whats this like for Plex / DLNA streaming to and from?
You can order it with DVB-T tuners for Freeview although I have no idea how well it would work for that. That said, there's no 4K Freeview channels so you're not really getting any benefit over a non-4K box. There's also a chance that if 4K Freeview channels were launched in the future, this box may not support them. It's worked fine whenever I've used the OpenWebIf based streaming however I haven't yet done anything with Plex (although I need to look into this to reduce the bandwidth usage of the streaming)
What would the 2023/2024 model to use these days?
Your lucky to be able to get so many Free to Air Channels on Satellite where you are. Here in north America we have to have a big C Band dish to get most of the good stuff.
Do you think Cross EPG will work for north America?. There is no EPG data on Satellites on this side!
Hey man can I watch HEVC 4k satellite channels on my HD (non 4k decoder) It doesn't matter if the video quality is downgraded. please
idk if anyone will respond, but how would I reset the system clock, it currently thinis its Sunday at 9pm.
thanks for the answer in advance 😊
Is it possible to use this box with Plex to record TV shows?
I've never got around to using Plex myself but the box records to standard MPEG files stored on its hard drive (or on an external network share). Probably wouldn't be too hard to get those recordings into Plex.
I noticed that on the receiver it had 2 LNB inputs, so does that mean it would be able to tune to say Astra 19 East and HotBird 13 East? I wouldn’t mind getting my hands on one of these boxes if it can, also it would be fab to get the free 4K/UHD content from both positions, I don’t expect the box would be able to show the 4K content down scaled on to a non 4K TV, I have a Icecrypt S3750CHD receiver which allows me to get both and put the channels where I want them but minus the 4K channels as the box can’t show the pictures
I haven't tried it myself but I'm pretty sure you can set up different satellites on each tuner. However bear in mind that because you only have one satellite on each tuner, you may have issues recording one channel while watching another or while watching one channel on the box while streaming another channel on another device, it may work but both channels would need to share the same frequency band and polarisation). I can also confirm that mine is happy to downscale 4K content to 1080p.
@@camerongray1515 I probably wouldn’t bother with the recording side as it would not be used for that really, but thanks for the quick reply,
Hey Cam how's your experience with this receiver been so far? Any issues? Been looking into DVB-S2X receiver and this one is on my shortlist
It's working pretty well so far, only issue is that it's locked up a couple of times while it's been in standby but this is extremely rare and hasn't happened for a while. Issue may also be with the specific version of the firmware I installed.
Any reason why you didn't opt for something like tvheadend instead?
I could have done that although for me the primary focus was to have a box directly connected to my TV (instead of relying on network streaming) with the streaming side of things as an added bonus. Having a dedicated box just seemed like a much simpler solution than having to build a TVHeadend server and maintain the whole software stack around it.
Cameron Gray fair enough, if you don't already have the hardware in place. Interesting video nonetheless, didn't know these existed!
The Webif plugin is basically a TV Home Run but built into a box.
I'll have to see if this box - or something similar - is available here in the US, and compatible with US service providers. I love the idea of having a set top box running Linux.
All of them run linux, just oem embedded versions
I really want one with the DVB-T/T2 tuners - at least youll he getting a better deal with that box as Freesat is very limited! Channel 4 HD has been removed from Freesat as well as Vintage TV (also loads in the past has been removed) but these should work fine on here!!
Yeah, that's one of the reasons I went for something like this, the channel selection is so much better than with Freesat. It has a lot of channels that Freeview lacks and there's only a few Freeview channels that aren't available FTA on satellite.
Cameron Gray I would of got the DVB-S tuners myself - but since Sky changed the LNBs to the wideband ones they removed out Octo-LNB for a duel one for my mum's Sky!! I currently have Virgin and I've noticed that most of my shows are on Freeview!! Have you had much play with the Virtual Tuners? Love your videos! Super love long videos like yours :-)
Three questions:
1. What would you recommend instead of the Firestick?
2. What is the delay like?
3. Is the bitrate trough the webinterface the same as on the decoder?
Thanks!
Hi Cameron, was wondering what you think of this device, a year on? I am looking for something with similar features and was wondering if you still use this and rate it highly? Or maybe could recommend something better? Thanks for the video and the review.
That particular model seems to be sold out on your link and they are recommending the Zgemma H7S :(
Definitely still works well. I have however noticed that maybe once every few months it will lock up while it's been sitting idle and need rebooted. When this happens it interestingly stops HDMI CEC working for the rest of my setup until I reboot. Not a deal breaker but pretty annoying and could cause recordings to fail.
@@camerongray1515 Is mutant-digital.net the manufacturer website? If so, it looks like there been no news in well over a year :(
if they are encrypted then how did u watch them?
The encrypted channels I refer to are for paid TV services such as Sky, the free to air channels that I watch are not encrypted. Any reference to "Sky" in the EPG is simply because I'm using the Sky EPG numbering, none of the paid Sky channels are available.
i use to use the Zgemma H2s Enigma2 but it was so unreliable so i built a HTPC instead with 2x Twin Tuners along with Linux, MythTV and Kodi which is better than these boxes. FreeSAT boxes suck so i use a HTPC instead for everything cant go wrong.
Hi Cameron, interesting to see your video on this. I was interested in a receiver that would be able to stream to other devices and I don't want to have multiple coaxial feeds and receivers. I know Sky Q can do this but I don't want to use them for lots of reasons. Freesat boxes are totally locked down and it doesn't seem likely they will allow this anytime soon. You may or may not be aware about the recent problems with the Freesat EPG (cost for broadcasters to be included in it per channel) - essentially 4 HD is not available on the Freesat platform just now while Freesat and C4 have this spat so it is interesting to see that it looks like you can get it on this device. The series link options don't look nearly as good as with TiVO, Sky, or Freesat so it will be interesting to see how your machine works out in a few weeks or months.
Hi Cameron, I know it's been quite a while since you uploaded this video, and by the way, it's excellent!, but I wonder if you can recommend one, and help me decided on a replacement stb for my VU+ solo2, which is getting on now. I don't want to buy an stb that is not supported, the VU+ I have now, is not 4K and is rapidly losing support. It would appear that Open PLi no longer support VU+ which is such a shame, as I find their image the best suited for my use.. Have you updated your box since this video? If so, what did you go for.. Hope you can help, thanks. Graham.
I've since moved to Sky so I'm pretty out of the loop with any Enigma2 stuff unfortunately.
To be fair that adapter doesn't seem to me very safe, if the screw is not properly fastened you can end up easily with live pins exposed, also someone like a child could plug that adapter in and touch the live pins if you leave it laying around open.
I don't also get why do they include an adapter, that is a standard cable so they could have simply replaced the cable with the correct one, probably would have also costed less money than including the adapter.
I don't get why they would include it rather than supply a new cable but I can hardly see it being any more dangerous than a regular rewireable UK plug which would also expose the user to live parts if it wasn't screwed together properly.
That's quite a big remote actually. My DVD Player remote's small lol.
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Is it possible to record every channel at once for like 7 days?
I wonder what the TH-cam copyright computer looks like? Probably takes up a whole 1u rack because it has about as much intelligence as the pop artists it is trying so hard not to get played!
Haha, in fairness it must be pretty good since what it detected was the mini TV which was showing while I was talking about plugins so it must at least be able to handle the video being cropped.etc. Just wish that it had been treated as fair use (which is what I expected it to be) or I'd at least been contacted and given a chance to blur the content in place rather than having to completely re-render and upload everything again!
Why did they cover live tv?!?!?!?!?!
I had had a previous upload of this video taken down by a copyright claim for some of the live content shown, it was therefore safer to reupload with any potentially copyrighted content covered to prevent another takedown.
Cameron, you mention that you are a user of Freesat. Could you please comment on the differences between Freeview and Freesat?
I have wired my home with 1 x coax to all 8 rooms and currently use a 1-to-8 terrestrial distribution amplifier to share my aerial around the home.
I am considering adding a satellite dish and a satellite multiswitch but unclear if there are enough benefits of Freesat to warrant an upgrade from Freeview-only.
It's really just the channel selection so you'd be best to just look up a list of channels on each platform and decide if the difference is worth it for you. Realistically, it's relatively minor, just a few "nice to haves" like BBC News in HD. For me it was worth it because I already had the satellite cabling installed to the correct place, but I'm not sure I'd necessarily install the equipment for it from scratch.
@@camerongray1515 Thanks Cameron. Yes, BBC News HD dropping off Freeview was a disappointment for me, but I agree that running new infrastructure to get it back may be OTT. I will maybe see if I can snag a bargain on a dish.
I enjoy your videos btw and we share a lot of the same setup. I live in Glasgow and recently ran 2000ft of Cat 6A across 8 rooms and have the same Unifi switch + Unifi Router + multilple Unifi APs setup...
I also have a Nest thermostat and Texecom alarm system but went hard-wired on the Alarm system.
"copyright issues" -the issue is copyright c;
bokeh Disney renews its copyrights
so wait, it can run DOOM?
Don't just buy random receivers off the internet.
Why not? What should I have bought instead?
I flagged this for copyright. It just upsets me that you think you can show live tv
It upsets me that there are spiteful people like you who flag review videos! He is clearly not intentionally trying to breach copyright and is just trying to show the features of the device. BTW graphics in games can be copyrighted too, how about I flag all YOUR videos for copyright violation!?!?
hate to point out this is not a satellite receiver ... this is a air HD receiver ... using an intena ... i dont know what kinda schools they have in URO's but ... satellite are big circle object on top of your house .. here in the USA and most of uro's are " dish network / direct TV .. " ... its a ok vid but .. your hyping up dumb people trying to get rid of there hoppers .. ..
This literally is an FTA satellite receiver connected to a satellite dish on the roof pointing to a satellite in orbit, it is not connected to an antenna...