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Oh PC sim2 is on the Fortnite store? They should just consider it dead on launch then
idk if you know what would cause this but, i have a intel i5 11600k that keeps overheating to 80 90 degrees celsius every time i play assasins creed odyssey, is it just poor game design or something with my computer?
Wish they kept updating and adding content to the first game rather than turning into a yearly reinstall greedy business model. Good luck.
If I had a dollar every time Jay said "I digress" I'd have a RTX 3090 by now
I'd be running SLI lol
Nah, youd just have the money to be able to buy one. :P
Lol right I was just thinking man when I first started watching it was amusing now it's just like um can we run a poll and pick a new thing for Jay lmao which I'm debating on doing and see if Jay sees and comments lol
Wait until you notice how often he says "obviously".
But that's besides the point🤣
you could possibly use an "L" plug instead of trying to plug in instead of plugging right in to the card plug in to an "L" plug if there's one in the right size
180 degree pcie power adapters exist, they're more like a U than an L, and would have worked in this case. I have them in my sffpc powering a 6800XT. Cost about 7-9 bucks a pop though, so 21-36 bucks for all 3 pin outs...
I came to the comments to suggest this. Haven't used them myself but came across on amazon.
Don't know if they work well? I guess it doesn't make much of a difference, it either delivers power or it doesn't?
@@geoffreycuypers2602 well, they're intended to deliver power. it's not exactly as clear cut as digital signals (1s and 0s). depending on the internal build quality, they could end up overheating, or not giving the GPU enough current, etc. this could happen if the copper inside is of relatively poor quality, the conductors are too thin, or even too close together and not properly insulated. of course, the chances of these problems occurring scale with how cheap of a connector you bought, and how hungry the card is. quality connectors shouldn't have this problem, and hungry cards pull more power through the conductors which can lead to more heat and hitting current limits for that particular conductor (for example, it's physically unable to let more current through at 12V). poor conductivity (increased resistance) leads to these limits being lower.
This is what a lot of SFF people do. Been running them on my 3080ti since July of last year
@@geoffreycuypers2602 use them on a Asus Rog Strix z690 G gaming wifi. Works rather well. Also did the ones for GPU. They certainly come in hand on some builds.
30-series almost 2 years old, still impossible to buy for even just launch MSRP, let alone the discounts it definitely would've gotten by now in a normal market.
Great stuff.
I signed up for EVGA's queue 1.5 years ago . . . . they emailed me last month and I finally got one. I thought about waiting for the 4000s since they were coming out this year but then I remember, It'd probably be 1.5 years before I'd get to touch one and I needed an upgrade 2 years ago.
@@thedave1602 Exactly why I snagged myself a 3070 Ti this weekend for $730 (Microcenter). Thought about waiting for 4000 series but availability is also probably going to be crap.
Probably will never be able to get a 30 series for MSRP. MSRP is now just marketing hype that doesn't really mean anything anymore ...
the 12th gen cpu will be the shortest life cpu ive ever seen in my life thanks to amd forcing intel to actually compete which is bad for us pc gamers in many ways
My retailer here in Australia has cards in stock at MSRP (or RRP as we call it down here).
Argus Monitor can be used to control case fans with the GPU temperature. I was able to set my case fan speeds to be controlled by the CPU or GPU temp, whichever is higher.
does it come with ads or a reoccurring charge
@@accelement3499 There aren’t any ads. They have a 1 yr or 3 yr license option. You can keep using it after your license expires for free but just not get new updates.
They also have a fully unlocked trial (I think 30 days). I tried it and immediately purchased it. It's only like $12 for a lifetime license and you get free updates for a year. I set a custom case fan curve based on my VRAM temps since I have a 3080. The GDDR6x is by far the hottest running thing in my system, so it makes the most sense. I'm running a 5600x with a beefy cooler, and CPU temps never get above the upper 50's, so controlling the case fans based on CPU temp made no sense. The software has worked completely bug free for me, and the developer is incredibly fast to respond to questions. It's honestly probably the best software purchase I've ever made.
@@zues287 german engineering :D
@@bretrick30 cool ty
3090 being called old hurts my heart lol. I only just managed to finally upgrade my 1070 FE to a Gigabyte 3080 Ti last week when I finally managed to get one at MSRP ( or as close as possible 1449.95) at my local Micro Center.
Got myself an MSI 3080 Ti to upgrade my 1080 FTW3 2 weeks ago. Definitely a massive upgrade.
I have a 2070 super. I hear ya haha
It doesn't matter to me, as long as I'm happy with it, and even if it's old, if I can sell it and buy a newer one, it's alright
Microcenter is the best.
Never buy a GPU at the end of its life cycle. It's a tough lesson to learn.
I love itx builds. Been rocking a meshlicious for a few months, it’s awesome to fit so much computing power in a tiny space.
Pricey and *sometimes* difficult, but the result is gorgeous.
@@CollinTheSav yup better save money...with prices of gpu so expensive
I recently joined after I thrifted a mint Fractal Core 500 for $6.99. Turned it into my first ITX build.
It's still weird to me having (*almost) all the power of my ATX gaming PC compressed into such a tiny little cube.
*The ATX has my Poseidon Platinum 1080Ti, meanwhile the ITX has my old Poseidon Platinum 980Ti in it. That's the only real difference.
I was sorta lucky during the shortage: turns out never getting rid of your old cards can be a good thing.
itx builds are extremely enjoyable but damn they are little space heaters
Phil really outdid himself with this video's montage. Well done Phil!
Jay! they make 180 degree adapters for the pcie power for cases just like this. I've had to use them for SFF. Check them out.
Even with the 180 degree adapters, doesn't look the AIO tubes would fit properly anyway....
card is to high still past a rivet he pointed out in vid
I love this build definitely my #1 choice of what I aspire to build one day.
This is the one time where icue could come in handy. I have it control my case fans through a commander pro tied to gpu temp. AIO fans are controlled through the same based off cpu temps.
Agreed, it is nice having iCue control all of the fan speeds. However, because Corsair doesn't use the standard ARGB connector, iCue can't also control the LEDs -- maybe there's an adapter but I didn't have patience trying to find and test one. So, I need to use Armoury Crate for the RGB. Although, RGB control will always be the ornery elephant in the room thus little benefit in complaining.
P.S. The Light Wings are indeed a very nice step up. As Jay stated, the extra range (i.e. higher max RPM) helps a lot when pushing full workloads. Yet, they maintain an acceptable sound (just the whrrr).
@@MacCheetah3 I had the same issue. There are adapters that allow you to control your fans with icue. Pirate Dog Tech is the name of the company. Now I can use only icue instead of 3 different programs to control my whole setup. Hope this helps.
@@MacCheetah3 I use argb adapters that i bought on ebay from a company called G Major Tech. They're 7.99 GBP each, plus shipping so i think it came to 30 bucks canadian overall. They work great. look for 3 pin argb to 3 pin corsair.
I have 6 vardar s evo fans through the linkbox from ek to one channel and 4 fractal prisma AL14 fans throught the other channel. the commander pro thinks they're ML120's. works great.
Jay that spacing you meantion at 8:50 is actually to use 180 degrees pcie adaptors! with that the card wouldve def fit!
this, or custom SFF cables would solve this. I honestly consider a set of custom cables included in the SFF tax as they make a world of difference when dealing with all the tolerances.
Seeing a build that burned down due to a falty one of those on the LTT forum made me never look at them again.
I'd rather bend the individual wires one at a time to make the bend tighter or even add heatshrink to them and trim the plastic of the connector.
At least I'd know what state the insulation was in, unlike a random PCB with a piece of foam stuck to it.
It would still leave the problem of the AIO tubes not having any room to pass through. You could fit the GPU this way, but it would require a different option for the CPU cooling.
I can see Gamers Nexus making a video about these and custom QUALITY cables that are made for this and see the horror that can happen on these POWER HUNGRY MONSTER CARDS
@@JDavies345 you can make (not sure if anyone supplies) cables that end in right angles, obviously this requires considerable knowledge and I would assume if you could buy these they would come at big premium due to the niche circumstances.
Phil once again proves he's the best editor in tech! That build montage was fantastic!
You can tell he's really having fun with them too!
yeah phil really nails it big time. he just gets it haha
8:20 unsleeved cables or 180 degree adapter
I said this when I saw your case review too, but there's 90 degree adapters for the 8 pin cables that'll make it fit.
Jay additionally pointed out the GPU card height was also obstructing the cooling tubes.
I really enjoy watching your videos, they have encouraged me to do my first build even though I'm NOT computer savvy but somehow I felt like I could do it. Thanks.
I've never wanted to do a smaller case/motherboard build. But this case is REALLY appealing to me. It's so clean and well thought out. It would make an awesome PC for sitting on or next to my sim rig or, actually, anywhere. Awesome build, Jay.
Use rubber pads in between the fan and the case, Jay. That will greatly reduce, and most likely remove that noise.
Honestly I don’t know how I hadn’t thought about that I have a fan that’s directly on the metal without grommets I’m gonna have to grab a few strips and try them out. Just needs to hold until I can get my new pc finally built 😅
genius thank you for the tip never thought of that lol
Use small rubber o-rings
What about noctua rubber “things”?
It's a bit insane that a guy like Jay doesn't know that
I actually really love how well this case worked out. That's such a beefy system for such a little box and I'm impressed with the thermal performance! It's a big difference from skunkworks giant design but I like that it proves you don't need a big case anymore to have a top tier pc.
I would absolutely die for an ATX supported version of this case. In the middle of filing a claim with my movers, my PC is destroyed now (even cracked the frame of my Thermaltake Level 20XT) which I was in love with. When I eventually get to rebuild (if I can even get a decent value from the claim), I'd love to use a case like this.
Two quick tips. 180° eight pin connectors are a cheap effective option for compact SFX builds. On power supply's 1000w SFX-L PSU are available with 1100w&1300w SFX/SFX-L PSU about to release. They are a big step up from 750w/850w PSU both in noise & OC stability.
As great as the huge modern graphics cards look - like the EVGA FTW3 cards - the difference between a thicc and tall 2.5 or 3 slot card and a 2 slot one is pretty big once you enter the ITX relm. I'd probably only go for a maximum size card in an ITX chassis if I knew from someone else on the internet that my hardware was going to fit without issues. Even then, I tend to change ITX cases every year or two and I wouldn't want to have to worry about a huge GPU fitting.
Why the hell do you change your case yearly lmao
@@raynman6466 Because cool new cases come out often and I like to change things up.
I would have loved to get a FE card instead of a FTW3 but those always sell out instantly because they're the only ones sold at announced msrp.
@@ffwast Oh well, there are worse problems I suppose haha
I have this feeling that when the new RTX 4000 series comes out, it's going to make ITX builds really difficult to keep cool due to size limitations, so much that even the NR200 case was made with a 3-slot design to accommodate newer designs.
Personally, I think Mini-ATX cases that have 4 (or 5)-slot are gonna be the standard for air-cooled high end cards. I've noticed this since the RTX 2000 cards especially when they stopped making ITX-sized cards all together.
Glad I went 5950x instead of I9. I like my CPU sitting at 70 degrees under load. That phanteks case makes me jealous though.
Even am confused between 12900k and 5950x as 12900k is a hot chip and i will be building a sff build any review from you would help
I've never given a small build a try before, but I might just give it a go with this case. Thanks Jay!
0:00 Intro
0:28 Parts Listing
1:42 Sponsor Block - PC Buliding Simulator 2
3:21 Parts Detailed Review
6:43 Buliding Montage #1
7:14 Cabling Issue Interruption
9:08 Buliding Montage #2
9:59 Jayz Mighty Finger - PowerUp
10:31 Build Temperatures/Performance Review
12:42 CPU Cinebench Run - 28105p
15:20 CPU Voltages
15:55 GPU Timespy Run
16:54 GPU Cabling Clutter Issue
17:57 CPU 3dMark Run
18:17 Ending
19:00 Outro
19:15 :)
your welcome ;)
I use a pretty aggressive fan curve to keep the flow going good for my GPU to get as much fresh cool air as possible.
it's it 100% 24/7 aggressive? you gotta be in the 100% 24/7 squad or you aint nothing 🤣🤣
@@M3PH11 real close.
Mine hits 100% after like a 3 degree bump lol.
I gotta say, the montage edits get better and better.
The inverts on the fan itself on the FE card, enlargements on the GeForce emblem, the bit around the infinity front. Epic stuff. 👌
Wow, thanks Jay for the quick build in this case! I was really looking forward to this!
I really like that motherboard. Nice build! Love tiny builds!
Respect to Phil’s montages, always creates another dimension to the videos!
Love from sweden ❤️
Just put a thermal pad onto your backside mounted NVMe so when you install the mainboard the whole case is the NVMe heatsink :bigbraintime: :)
thanks, after doing a stupidly big Dynamic XL custom loop, been thinking of doing a SFF build and loved the look of that case from your review, so you doing this has made it easier to visualise :)
Always make sure you GPU fits beforehand and spend more money for soft braided cables.
I snagged a Shift XT pre-order this weekend. I am REALLY hoping my 6900XT fits in there. It will be extremely tight. I bought a Silverstone 1000W SFX PSU for it. Taking my rig out of my Tower 100 and putting it in the Shift. I can't wait.
Just look up the dimensions of your card vs the MSI card he showed off in the case review last video
@@swizzler8053 ASRock OC Formula Radeon RX 6900 XT. According to the specs it doesn't fit in my Tower 100 either. 🤷♂
@@Joe-nr9xf According to published specs it shouldn't fit in the Tower 100 either so I am holding out hope.
@@grimzadi2480 Yea thers no possible way its a chunk bigger then the 3090 in the video he used plus the triple power connectors
@@connorjohnson4402 Yeah it's not even close. Oh well. Time to build another PC. 😜
You've probably had time between making this video and getting it onto YT, but if you've not found a way to resolve the fan situation, I use Argus Monitor which allows you to select any fan header to follow any temp sensor. Pretty simple to use and has a 30 day trial. You can save your fan curves and then save the profile and have it load the selected profile at startup.
Also that build montage was a piece of art and Phil truly outdid himself.
Or you can just torrent it for free, which is the best option.
Had to pause halfway through to appreciate the editing. You've got a great team Jay, love your content
That last image with that little form next to the 65 broke me. Thanks for the build and I enjoyed the update when it didn't go as planned. Makes me feel better that I am not the only one. Building my first water cooled systems sense 07 and keep coming into hickups.
Some 180 degree adapters should solve that cable problem.
This looks soooooo good!! Love it
Hey Jay, thanks for another great build video. I'd love to see a video on how to set up fan curves, with any and all variations: cpu cooler (water vs air), case fans, gpu fans. I haven't been able to find good recommendations.
Just built my dream computer configuration in a O11D XL because of the ease on water cooling. My first time building a computer and that case made it easy. Now I’m kinda wishing I waited a few more months, I guess Ill just have to build one of these just cause never know when I might want to take my pc somewhere. I love this case so far.
Again, not a big small form factor person, but that is a very aesthetically pleasing rig. Good job, Jay!
Phil you editing is off the charts
Now this build is F****** SICK! LOVE IT.
Glad you decided to make a build in that new case, it looked amazing in the review!
16:13 @Phil Tell your boss you need "Atomos Ninja V+" you can record the monitor signal with that in couple easy steps.
And it would give you rather nice capability to show side by side in video's with HD sharpness.
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Would it not be nice if a 90° angled adapter existed for those pci-e connectors
Yeah, I’ve only seen 180° adapters so far
@@wojtek-33 I never heard of this company. I also never came across these adapters anywhere. Thank you for sharing.
would or wouldnt it?
I just want to shout out that 1) this is a badass build in a really cool case. 2) The montage was freaking sweet (even with the interruption). 3) The ifixit has been one of the best investments I've ever made. Thanks JayzTwoCents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yess I was waiting for the build in this case after your review of it.
Is there better way to end the day than with new awesome video from Jay 😁😊
Is there any kind of 90 degree adapters you could put on the 3090 to avoid the curved wire issue?
yes
Curved wires were only part of the issue tho
The board comes with a two-pin temp sensor, run a cable behind the GPU PSU with a temp sensor diode and adjust your fan curve of that!
What a beast of a beautiful build!
Build montage was on point! Great work as always!
"I know what you're thinking - another spoiled youtuber..."
No, I'm thinking how in the world is that poor 750W PSU going to handle a 12900K with a 3090. Geez, give that PSU a trophy.
The 750 has a plat variant. Probably handles full load easier.
@@user-op8fg3ny3j And a UPS…
@@joshua41175 It does indeed. In fact it was tested by a couple reviewers to be able to handle well over 750W with ease for extended periods of time with no repercussions.
Not recommending that obviously, but it can apparently handle it fine.
Platinum or not? I think I'd still rather have an 850 or 1000 with a 3080 TI or 3090. Micro center has both in stock for SFX.
Silverstone Platinum 1,000 W for $329 and an EVGA 850 Gold for $189
@@chadbizeau5997 I wonder how hot that 1000w gets.
love the esthetic of small form factor builds
So happy you did a build in that case. Looks great!
I've been seeing a lot of reviews of this case that mention not great temps for the GPU. Could you let us know a bit more on that after some use time? I'm in love with that case but wanted to be sure those temps stay chill! Thanks
Its an extremely small case, the temps on everything will be absolutely atrocious.
@@jaredchampagne2752 the temps in the video seem atrocious to you? sure almost 80c on the GPU seems high, but it's SFF ... if you want that, you need to give up a few degrees. The CPU is perfectly fine. it will not hit 93c on your everyday use.
@@funkysmokee8764 SFF just seems like a waste of time to me, loud fans, high heat, and just worrying about thermals forever, do people really not have enough space for an atx?
@@jaredchampagne2752 i mean, i think people just like having a small pc. maybe some do it so they can take it with them easily, maybe some just for the looks. i don't think the space problem is that much of an issue.
@@jaredchampagne2752 Some people can't fit an ATX mid-tower PC on their desk. Some people like their desktop PCs to be portable.
This pains me to see, these "shortcomings" are are a part of the sff building process. Adapt and figure out a solution. For example, try adding standoffs to the PCIe riser support to bring the 3080ti closer to the side panel.
A test of patience and creativity. The challenge is what drew me to sff building. Definitely not for everyone.
Or get some right angle power adapters for the original 3090
I was debating on whether to make a comment about that, you beat me to it! Thumbs up!
Yup, you could easily solve it with some creative thinking, which is practically a requirement for SFF builds if you want to do something other than a barebones kit. It requires research into compatible parts, some modding, some compromises and pushing the limits. I've personally shaved the plastic around front panel connectors to get an ATX PSU into the OG RVZ01 (i.e. non -E). That same build had me making custom shrouds out of cardboard (didn't have any foamboard on hand) to direct hot air from the CPU cooler straight out of the case, as the cooler wasn't up against the side panel vent and the CPU position on my ITX board wasn't perfectly alligned with it.
@@phenomanII my current case is an RVZ03 and the cardboard feels like a universal experience with the raven cases lol
Im excited for this build! Cant wait to see what you do with it! Hype!
Very cool, I do love a good ITX case. You ROCK.
I knew that eventually, I'd witness you building a PC using a top shelf AIO and calling it good enough. Been using them since the 1st Corsair H70s appeared. Good stuff and don't weigh as much as those customer fluid monsters you have been touting forever. Easier to upgrade new gear inside of too. Nice build, Jaysome.
I hope to someday run into an issue where I have to settle for a 3080TI instead of my 3090
Building my first PC this week and your videos have been extremely helpful! Love the channel, man! Keep up the great work!
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In 1974 my late friend Rick Pope bought a used 1960 something Sunbeam Alpine, aluminum body car. He worked with the frame and dropped a worked, Ford 427 engine in it. The Holley Carbs would have been a little behind the driver's right arm. THAT is what this computer reminds me of. Congratulations Jay, for building about the COOLEST computer that I have ever seen! Too bad it isn't literally the coolest but still! I keep thinking EATX for my Z690 build, but those are pretty damn big boxes like the 5930K, BEAUTIFUL metal flake gold, ASRock Formula next to me now.
looks like the video title is a good slogan for me. 8 1/2 years of driving a cab during overnight shifts and the new owners of our cab company just axed a ton of very loyal and competent people, along with any hope of us overnight drivers (and even many daytime drivers) of ever making money again, while so many are out of a job all because of corporate greed from one guy who bought a couple of cab companies, put one out of business, and is still worth 10 million $.
That's a good looking build. Love that case!
These small form factor builds are just amazing!
Jay, are you planning on doing an Alder lake overclocking video/guide?
If I'm honest I'd love to see more full or mid tower builds.
750watt with a 3090 and a 12900k? Jay you crazy. I had big issues with a 750 watt. Went 1000watt and had not an issue. I love that case though. Would never fit my video card
This is the case I want next to my TV for sure, just gotta wait for it to come out in places in Denmark where I can actually buy it, it's not even on german amazon yet (the default amazon for most EU users, since it's VAT excempt)
The great thing about that case is that it has that PCI-E extension. You don't have to worry about the GPU adding heat those stacked NVME's.
Jay, you used to be tied with many other “TechTubers” as my favorite, but you’ve pulled ahead, by far, to be my single favorite channel.
You’ve managed to think of great activities, subjects, and discussion topics, even though the very tough times “TechTube” has been having. Your content is always entertaining, and sets an awesome chill and fun type mood. Keep up the great work!
I see no reason for the huge case when you only have M.2 drives. I think compact atx or small form factor is the way to go. The only problem is fewer USB ports.
I've found that to be my only issue with ITX too. But thankfully it's solvable! I've got usb extenders to boost connectivity, and prioritize direct connections to true USB3 devices (e.g elgato facecam, audio interface, and SD card reader). Keyboards, mice and gaming controllers can all work off an extender with no issues
Are there ATX boards with more than 8 USB + front panel connector? The limitation for most configurations is usually lanes.
Air flow. more volume allows for better air flow. Better air flow = cooler PC = better overclocks AND better component lifespan
Jay's PC building videos are always satisfying to watch
I'm 100% planning on using a Shift Evolv for a build soon, it seems like such a good case
Real shame that PC building simulator getting a full new release and they gave in to being an Epic games store exclusive. Guess I'll pass.
Keep doing these build. It gives me ideas and inspiration. Just did my first custom loop in a sff case.
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That mobo is so dense with the cooler on. I love it.
I love how the build turned out in this case. Great video Jay.
Props to the editing on this one, nicely done!
The issue with the PCIE supplemental power I had with all the SFF cases I had until I found this PCIE 180 deg offset adapter. It's basically a PCB with a input and output power connector soldered on that allows you to plug in power from the back plate area without having to bend the cable. Side steps the issue of having the cable bends add a couple of centimeters to an already tight fit.
It would be cool if Jay could do a series reviewing all these additional knick-knacks 3rd party sellers offer to weed out what's actually useful, when are they useful, and what is just hot garbage.
Love your stuff, man. Keep at it please.
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I love seeing your builds. Gives me ideas for when friends ask me for recommendations or assistance in picking parts.
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Jay. I have the same tool set (per your ads) and you have to cut out the foam so you can leave your bit on when you put it away.
Those small builds... Just so awesome
I am just as happy to watch you build these new systems. LOL I wonder if there is an air cooler that fits this board and case? I really want to do a small form factor build as a server but have it low maintenance.
That's a tiny SUPERMACHINE, really cute too 🤗!!
What an awesome build. Happy for you.
That motherboard is like some weird coliseum with that massive stack for the m.2 drives. I dig it
That mobo is super freaking cool! What a near idea. Especially with how large the IO shields are getting it isn't really adding too much depth to the board.
I always love to watch Phil's montages.
Doing exactly what i was planing on doing with my 12600k 3080.
Love it Jay !!!!
Pc building simulator has been one of my favorite games this past year, so relaxing and informative. Hoping to see some more cases (phanteks p500a that I own especially) and excited for the added features!
It’s also probably saved me thousands of dollars because I don’t have to build new IRL systems to get my new build fix
Wow! That was the sickest montage that I have EVER seen!
Thanks for the build video
I love this case and the editing in this video
Ok can we please give Phil his props!!! Mans is a beast with the montages!!! I legit could just watch a few hours of Phils montages.
Wow. Super beautiful build
You can take adapters that turn the pcie plugs 180 digrees straight behind and then put the cables behind the pcu from the downside and up to the pcie connector maybe. So you can put in there a 3090 also easily
I don't see enough comments about that SICK build montage!
The bass caught me off guard :D