John Kirby: No evidence Israel is committing genocide in Gaza
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- National Security Council coordinator for strategic communications at the White House, John Kirby, joins Morning Joe to discuss Secretary of State Blinken's meeting with Xi Jinping along with the latest in Ukraine and Israel.
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#JonKirby #Gaza #Israel
This guy is defending Israel more than Israelis defend it. He has no shame!
He’s probably a j. Majority of Biden’s cabinet is.
Why not just read up on him
He is a Disgrace to the Roman Catholics
I wonder how many pieces of silver AIPAC paid him for his soul.
You liberals always complain about Trump yelling at the media about lying, and yet here you are doing the exact same thing when it’s something you don’t want to hear. Typical hypocrisy.
Does Kirby think we're blind?
Yes, it's what you voted for. Go Joe Go!!🏄
Aid package passed through republican house with support of Speaker Johnson.
Yes, he does, and he’s right. No person who can see would ever vote for the Biden Administration.
@@WinstonSmith24 As a Democrat, I don't disagree with you.
@@bigtime9589 If Trump was in power, all the palestinians would have been massacred or forced out of palestine. Both Trump and Biden would support Israels war crimes
This hypocrisy and BS is off the charts
You don’t understand the war than
@@brendagonzales4532 Peace was offered. It was rejected by the West. Here we are. What's not to understand?
@@brendagonzales4532 then not than... Stupid
HAMAS is designated as a terrorist organization; signed by Bill Clinton in 1997.
you are really arguing with a navy admiral about war?
To say that there is No Killings of Innocent civilians in Gaza in masses, means that this person is BLIND and HEARTLESS!!
CNN and the government always tell the truth.
Expected comment from a Zionist evil.@@MikeGoesBadaBoom
@@MikeGoesBadaBoom Jews started this in 1948.
@prajnachan333 not a genocide. Try again.
@@Deadassbruhfrfr ?
Kirby is such a bad and smug liar
No
@@onepunchman2663yes. Like cannibal briben
Isn’t it swell, they are committing genocide in our name.
😂🤣😂 dude you are off your freaking rocker. That’s some crazy right there.
@@christopherhughes8402 dude couldn’t even give us a number of how many Americans and allies we left behind in Afghanistan, along with equipment and weapons.
Propaganda & lies.
Ultimate red pill. type. The greatest story never told odysee
Omg this guy is gross. They just lie and lie.
Identify the lies. You just don't like Jews and are using the current situation to give yourself license to express it.
What kind of evidence do you need to call it a genocide ?
A reduction in population
That it is not caused by Jews or Zionists.
What kind of evidence do you have to merit your righteous screams of genocide?
Gaza has an annual population growth rate of 1.99% (2023 est.), the 39th-highest in the world so if Israel is committing genocide they are not very good at it.
@@justsomeguy5063that was before the ethnic cleanse started. I am sure the numbers are much different now
No evidence? 😂 they closed their eyes and put their hands in front of them. Of course they see no evidence
No, there isn't. A lot of people dying isn't evidence of a deliberate genocide.
ok where's the evidence?
@@sarge5000 genocide = bad thing.
That's their rationale.
@@sarge5000ICJ said so
(1) Casualty figures are being provided by HAMAS, so not trustworthy.
(2) Many of the Gazans killed are HAMAS fighters.
I hate this dude Kirby
Send him to Palestine so he can get a better judgment maybe?
@@supremepc6298
Ezekiel 38~39....is Coming.....
Revelation 2:9 and 3:9......
Will give you a better understanding.
@@supremepc6298
Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.......
Nobody cares dude
I literally despise him with all my soul
Kirby for all his power and his 'dignified' position is a liar. He has been lying so long now that he cannot even know where one lie ends and the next one begins? Mass graves now being unearthed outside on the grounds of Al Shifa and Nasser hospitals. HUNDREDS of bodies of children, women and men--some with their hands tied behind their backs, some with medical tubes still attached, others with signs of torture and others (evidently) buried ALIVE! And Kirby "sees no evidence of a genocide".
Well if CNN and the government says something is true then it's the truth. That's why they work together with big tech to remove pesky comments of different opinions or facts.
CNN and the government say there was no genocide in gaza and Ukraine will win against Russia. So it must be true.
TH-cam blocking comments again
Kirby now lives and breath inside Israel's butt 🍑. He already made deposit for Jared Kushner's Gaza beachfront apartments.
so he doesnt lie about anything else from the white house .. only this ? ... cmon now
No evidence unless you ignore all of the video recorded by the IDS members themselves. This admin has skullfucked this entire situation.
John Kirby just lost a lot of credibility
He had some? He’s like cannibal briben, lies
He’s a paid mouthpiece for the administration, that’s his job.
He should be put on trial with the rest of these war criminals
Kirby is a mouthpiece of the Biden admin. What credibility?
Can't lose what you never had.
What a despicable liar.
Palestinians will not get an independent state with HAMAS in control. FULL STOP. How is that a lie?
He's a Democrat, what do you expect. 🇮🇱
Liar.
He is complicit in genocide.
Karma will come.
🤫
No it won’t. You simpletons will vote this entire Administration in again. 😂
🥱 nah, most of us just move on with our lives.
You have no idea what you're talking about
He’s lying man
Just a worse version of Donald Rumsfeld. For those who remember him.!
Blinken is a dual citizen. He has both citizenship in Israel as well as the US so his opinion is biased.
he is in a cult
Sounds like these corrupt blue DAs and judges
Describing corrupt blue DAs and judges?
Americasinertia You keep spamming these comments as if trump wasn’t even worse on Israel.
@@juancarlosalonso5664😅😅😅. TDS of the fentanyl blue sheep is interesting
I am skeptical of what Kirby's source is. IDF? Very skeptical.
We have intelligence and a working relationship with Israel, our ally.
Committing genocide or war crimes would leave Israel isolated and alone, they’re not that stupid or cruel. Gaza is a puppet of Iran, they answer to no one and Hamas controls the propaganda making its way to mainstream media. Hamas benefits from the war crime propaganda
I'd be more concerned of where these college kids that are protesting are getting their information.
He's also funded by A ! P A C, which has been avoiding registering under the Federal Affairs Act since JFK/RFK.
@@user-ei8do4uq4j "I'd be more concerned of where these college kids that are protesting are getting their information."
What a robust and safe space inducing thought ending cliché you have there! Would it be so difficult for you to use skepticism to determine what verifiable facts contradict your assertion as well as those that support it so that you could then use logical reasoning to come to a rational, justifiable conclusion instead of just asserting whatever your "feelz", or the genocide apologists, keep telling you "must" be "common sense" that so very conveniently happens to prop up your narrative? Or is that too much of a risk to that self sustaining safe space in your own mind?
"I don't have a problem with ignorance. We are all ignorant about a variety of subjects we are not currently aware of. The real problem is when that ignorance is wilful, intentional and used as a weapon against anyone who disagrees with you, or anyone who has the nerve to present facts you don't want to accept."
- anyone who actually cares about verifiable reality
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
- Voltaire
@@user-ei8do4uq4jI’m guessing the numerous pictures and videos of innocent women, children being dismembered and killed by IDF isn’t real.
fair to say blinken is biased in favour of the state of israel.
More than fair
Blinken's stepfather, Samuel Pisar served as the trusted lawyer of Mossad spy Robert Maxwell, father of Ghislaine Maxwell. Apples and trees.
Understatement of the year.
The top ambassador having a bias towards an ally of the country he serves? No effing kidding
Well, Blinken went to the area and stated he wasn't there as an American but as a J. That sums it up.
Babies are not hamas
Yet
@@theleigharchie
You Zionists always have some ludicrous excuse for justifying Zionist atrocities against Palestinians.
Your excuses never make any sense and nobody with a decency or morality pays any attention but you always like to reassure each other that the horrific things that Zionists do are justified.
@@theleigharchie What a disgusting thing to say.
@@louislemire6691no she’s right. They will grow up to hate Jews, Christian’s and anyone that isn’t Muslim.
@@theleigharchieyou’re right! Unfortunately they are raised to hate Jews, Christian’s anyone that isn’t Muslims and Palestinian.
No evidence? What BS
Kirby is morally blind!
Seriously, starving children to death in Rafa isn’t genocide? Please rethink your position.
Is this guy for real?? Does he REALLY think people are that blind or stupid? Is he just really naive, or just that captured by Israel that he can't admit the truth?
He really has got absolutely zero credibility any more ... completely worthless for the role he is paid to fulfill, so may as well slink off into the shadows.
No evidence--except everything we can see with our own eyes
And that’s why they want to ban TikTok, so you can’t see it anymore
Your own eyes? Or through a camera lens with someone telling you what you're seeing?
@@cpttreebeard9112 Not hard to tell when someone is wrapped up in a plastic bag.
@@louislemire6691 I saw more that a few videos of people dressed in plastic bags in the sake of filming an anti-Israel video. You may not have seen these but the Paliwood industry is very large and experienced. (not saying that there aren't any actual bodies)
Everything Kirby said about the IDF the opposite is true.
That's usually their strategy
Another Big SHAMELESS LIAR -> After the same words were uttered by Defense Secretary!
SHAME on you ALL!
Absolutely deplorable!!!
That's it? You ask: 'do you see evidence of genocide' and let him get away with his answer without asking him, whether he is basing his beliefs on the facts, that are so readily available? Or whether the definition of genocide proffered by Kirby is what they base their assessment on (wanton shooting, even for which there seems to be more than enough video evidence). Is it wilful ignorance on Kirby's behalf? Or yours? Where is your journalistic fervour? MSNBC is coming close to abetting the gaslighting being perpetrated by Kirby. Or is the his only way, that you will still have access to the likes of Kirby (if so, it is not worth it,And if he were hones, he should be clamouring to come to you!).
They aren't coming close to it, what he said is objectively disinformation and he has plenty of advisors and briefings, he is not ignorant of any of the relevant facts. This is also not the first time. He has previously claimed that the state department has investigated seriously and found no evidence of violations of international humanitarian law.
To be clear, Israel has violated international humanitarian law, that's not an opinion. This is a case where in law a presumption operates, but only in strictly legal procedural terms. That is to say, if someone is seen stabbing someone to death, admits to it, and there is a lot of physical evidence as well as medical evidence that the stabbing was the proximal cause of death, there is still a legal presumption of innocence because it has not yet moved to the point where the determination has been made in the courts.
So how can I say they have with certainty? A) They've attacked protected sites, where the burden of proof is on the attacker to demonstrate that those sites had lost their protected status, which Israel has not done; B) They've engaged in collective punishment in a manner that would render it effectively impossible to dispute. There's actually a much longer list you could go into, but as you go down that list it can become relatively more disputable.
But the evidence of genocide is very clear and abundant, it was considered by the ICJ, the special rapporteur, and has been evaluated by experts in international humanitarian law including previous genocide cases. So to say there is no evidence, and then to mischaracterise genocide. That's just disinformation. There's no question about that.
And they straight up let him air that unchallenged.
How can he make that claim with a straight face?
Because it's a fact.
@@VoFALT Okay Goebbels.
@@VoFALT
Zionist troll identified.
@@VoFALT
Couldn't be further from the truth!!!
It helps if you don't have to capitulate to some group-think mob obsessed with using the word "genocide"
Stop supporting Israel.
No evidence HAHAHA dude... Lol
War isn't genocide
@@DeltaTango2024 Your cult is.
@@DarthSailorMoo who's my cult committing genocide against?
@@DarthSailorMoocorrupt cannibal briben cult
@@DarthSailorMoocorrupt cannibal Bribens great
Liar.
Claiming to be human but unable to be human first. The eyes as blind as the heart. No Genocide ??
You just described corrupt cannibal briben supporters
@Americasinertia can you clowns even have a serious discussion?
@@JoeSmith-xu2zsnot with incompetent blue. They can’t even define a woman
@@Americasinertia oh, ok
@@JoeSmith-xu2zssee?
What about d ovr 33,000 dead in Gaza???
That's called war, not genocide
@@DeltaTango2024mor.on
0.6% of the population. Now look up the true meaning of "genocide".
I'm surprised YT didn't take your comment down
False
There’s also no evidence that Oj Simpson did it right? 😂
His son did it
Epstein died for this
@@Muttinchopsforeverandalwaysbidens? True. Briben knows
@@Americasinertia Hey fascist how are you doing today
@@Muttinchopsforeverandalways👈uses corrupt cannibal Bribens fentanyl
Hey, John Kirby, go to Gaza and take a good close, on person look and tell us this LIE again.
you must be blind
Don't believe your lying eyes is what the Democrats are all about. Let this be a wake up call to vote the right way this time.
Should we go back and look at the clips of October 7th? That was genocide.
Professional liars, both of them 😤
I guess the women and children fell down the stairs?
Definition of Genocide
In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.
After reading this I'd have to say that Mr Kirby is erroneous in his thinking .
Isn't Hamas guilty of genocide according to that definition? They make it no secret that genocide is their goal.
This is pretty much the same definition as a war then is it not? Not being argumentative, just trying to understand.
@@christinah864 : I took it from Wikipedia this morning . ( Definition of Genocide. )
As horrific as it is, these victims are victims of a war and not deliberately targeted (for belonging to a group). It was Hamas' stated intention to fight as long as possible in order to cause as many Palestinian casualties as possible in order to use them as a propaganda tool. If the IDF had deliberately targeted them, many more would have died. (That said, the figure is Hamas's, but certainly very high and tragic). Hamas etc killed ~1200 people a day, with small arms, and sent 15,000+ rockets, which only didn't cause more casualties because Israel is trying to protect its people. The IDF killed about 165 people a day - including 1/3 Hamas fighters, so 100+ people. And the IDF has all the weapons there are. These figures show the behaviour and the difference in intent. The IDF used calls, leaflets, escape routes, roof knocking, etc. to protect civilians as much as possible. There's not much more one can do in an urban war. And it's still war.
@@christinah864 Your perception of war is distorted. War is about soldiers fighting against each other, it's not about killing civilians or about trying to destroy an ethnic group entirely or partially. Think about the Jewish holocaust. Was it a war or was it a genocide? Same applies to what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.
No evidence? Really?
Yep there’s no evidence. Hamas claims aren’t valid.
Really. It's a war, not a genocide. Buy a dictionary.
@@gmh471 I will as soon as you learn to read. It's not war it's genocide. Read what the Israeli military, government, and media are saying. Google Translate is your friend.
@@gmh471 ww2 was also a war. should we conclude that holocaust was also not a genocide then according to this statement you made? of course not.
Isreal made an example out of the World Central Kitchen workers to send a message to the West.
Okay, don’t vote for Joe Biden in November if you don’t want to support Israel.
of course they did, because bebe loathes biden & wants trump back so he can complete his genocide, no ?s asked! & for the life of me, why does Joe keep coddling the man who is openly & brazenly doing pretty much the total oppo of everything Biden asks for, even to the point of possibly costing us ALL, our democracy! I mean, JC! just how effing much money does aipac have anyways!
Kirby just said 300 trucks per day are entering Gaza. So, if Israelis intentionally targeted that one aid truck, why have they stopped?
Your argument makes no sense.
@@JB-ti7bl Conveniently believing Kirby. Yeah. Also, it was a convoy of 3 trucks, all of whom were on a path and schedule that the IDF approved of beforehand.
Booo!!! This guy stinks!
Not the 33k dead, many women and children?
Apparently genocide = when ppl died?
Count now includes over 8,000 presumed under the rubble so count is 42,000+, 70% woman and children.
Wow Kirby. Just wow. A dual citizen?
There's nothing fascinating about this psychological liar
Classy move there implying dual loyalty because he has a different analysis than you (if you can even call what you do analysis)
Why is this level of ignorance? You care one child but not calling genocide after killing of 14000 !!!
They have a high threshold for what is considered a child over in Gaza
Only if that one child is biden's.
That’s cannibal Bribens way of thinking
@@breezybreeze12 racist mentality.
Trump is the biggest misfire since Fred Trump’s wedding night.
Rent free
24/7 365. Tds on full display
Hunter was born in the middle of these eras so....
@@EB-du3vh Still a dud load, Fred shoulda flushed it.
We’re taking about a genocide here, and you bots are bringing up Trump?
John Kirby what does international law and the Geneva convention constitute as war crimes collective punishment we can check that box Israel is doing that, using food starvation as a weapon of war is a war crime check that box Israel is committing that.
Blame Hamas for keeping supplies from civilians.
@@MikeGoesBadaBoom also where is your proof they are the ones stealing the aid what is your source cause UN reports show it's Israel doing that.
@@MikeGoesBadaBoombut khamas khamas khamas😂😂😂 c’mon dude that’s so played out
The questions are embarrassing…….masquerading as journalism.
And the Mass Graves?
I think America is a great place, especially without Trump.
I have remedies for your TDS
No. As you see death since dictator Biden corruptly took office
Rent free
You must be filthy rich.
No. As you can see 4 years of death under cannibal briben
Deaths, for many, are evidence; denial does not mean 0 evidence.
The ICJ disagrees, including the Judge from Israel.
I mean, a country that itself has murdered millions of civilians in its wars doesn’t hold the high moral ground on calling out what is “genocide”
Impecable logic and rationale I must say lol
americans wise the crap up. when someone is fighting with all there neighbours there is something wrong somewhere.
There has been fighting there since before the literal beginning of history. (*their* neighbors)
Youtub won't allow me to speak about the bodies of the strip! True evidence!
The international courts and basically every other government on the planet disagree with your claim Mr. Kirby.
I have a question for any law scholar here: is denying genocide from a high ranking official such as this Kirby, in order to cover the crimes of israel which in some instances if not all instances encourages israel to continue the atrocities, punishable by law?
Kirby 👀 what are you doing
Engaging in intentional acts of disinformation, as he has been doing for months. Such as, for instance, the press conference where he claimed the State department had investigated and found no evidence of violations of international humanitarian law. A claim that is prima facie impossible to reconcile with reality, not least given the burden of proof in relation to attacks on protected sites. That is to say, Israel has by default violated international humanitarian law unless it proves protected sites it has attacked had forfeited their protected status, which it has not done.
Kirby has been lying about this for a long time.
Shame shame shame shame shame
That's what he's supposed to say.
This interview is ridiculous. The White House needs to accept the fact that they lost control of the narrative.
Professional liar, that is actually his job title. Strategic communications
Oh there very much is. Lets see what the international court 💭
Kirby is out of his d@mn mind.
John Kirby he might want to take this speech to the college campuses because Mike Johnson isn't helping going down to college agitating and being disrespectful to the Palestine protesters. Kirby might want to put a surveillance on Trump and Netanyahu cellphones. Because Trump telling Netanyahu to ignore Joe Biden isn't helping and it shows on the ground.
my favorite puppet is Kermit
He just looked at all of us in the eyes and spit garbage from his mouth
He is talking rubbish. The ICJ has said the opposite. The case that SA brought against Israel
War criminal...
How much AIPAC money does Kirby get??
I'm surprised YT didn't take your comment down .
@@Gold-lr9bc probably a sign you aren't as persecuted as your persecution complex would lead you to think
Kirby treats us like we are blind, deaf & stupid. I wish they would wake up in Washington, DC.
In related news, there is no evidence that water is wet.
You Americans have the blood of innocent Palestinians on your hands.
lol no one called our response to pearl harbor genocide
Okay, and?
They did.
When police say they investigated themselves and found no wrongdoing.
Can’t find it, if you’re not looking for it.
I'm not saying Israel is or isn't attempting to wipe out a certain group of people, but that response was dumb. You don't have to send troops out with orders to erase all living things to commit genocide. There are other ways to achieve that goal. To say, "nah, no genocide," because troops aren't mag-dumping on anything that moves...just dumb.
Free Free the Hostages!
That statement should be directed to war- monger Netanyahu
Denial is the last step in genocide.
IDF will say one day, we were just following orders
No genocide they say like Haiti snd south Sudan
Well if I want it to be lied to I'd call one of my ex-girlfriends up
Well spoken!
And this is your Biden administration lying right to your face keep on voting for it.
Or call corrupt cannibal briben. He’s good for lies
Does he really believe people are idiots? I mean how condescending is that…
we need to stop aipac from controllling this mans voice
one of the few times kirby is actually accurate
up really is down in your mind, isn't it?
the hamas wing of the democratic party wont like this
GFYS
Did John Kirby fall and bump his head? They leveled northern Gaza and now the only place they have left is next!
The Generation in Power has failed Humanity…
This is *your* guy Democrats... own it.
Mike Johnson is a republican and the Speaker, he got the Israel aid package passed.
@@Arthur-Stringfellow-Jr
Vacate, I agree.
As an usual suspect i lie whenever im cornered. My jewish mother taught me this. Just like kirby mother taught him.
Maybe not genocide, though I would disagree, but mass murder, reckless disregard for civilians, and deploying famine as a weapon of war are certainly no less abhorrant.
War crimes for sure, but not genocide. Genocide as a term was created to specifically refer to the Holocaust, and as such has to meet a very high bar. I have no problem saying that what is happening in Gaza is less abhorent than the holocaust and every other event that has met the bar of genocide. What is happening in Gaza is a war with war crimes occurring.
No it doesn't have to refer to the Holocaust only. Plus it's not a war against Palestine. It was supposedly an attack against Hamas. But then again if you count all the Palestinian deaths at the hands of Isreal since the end of the Second World war, it's about a quarter of a million now. Splitting hairs over whether it's genocide or not is shameful.
They really think that people are stupid. Old people need to realize that we are in 2024. We can see everything.
It's Mind Blowing how Biden has almost completely healed Trump's disastrous economy and united the country!
I have never seen this country more _miserable_ than it is right now, Biden has healed nothing
And then threw it all away.
This administration has been absolutely horrendous on issues in this country and foreign policy.
Liar. Yes, there is ample evidence. I watched the entire South African presentation at the ICJ. It was thorough. It was compelling. The court agreed that there were grounds to investigate further. John Kirby should resign in shame.
Hahaha, he doesn't see any proof that tomatos are red !!! 😂
As a lifelong blue voter we need to send more money to fund other countries conflicts. Come'on man.