Switching power supply repair. Testing transistors & diodes.

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  • Today I show how to fix a switch mode power supply (SMPS). In this case it was a 750W ATX computer power supply (a 2-switch forward topology with an active PFC). I demonstrate how to find faulty components. I mostly focused on testing semiconductors (transistors and diodes). As a bonus, I show some waveforms on my oscilloscope and demonstrate the operation of the 3.3V and 5V regulation with saturable inductors (at 24:42).
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  • @jooch_exe
    @jooch_exe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I've been watching this channel for a long time now, but this is without a doubt the best video on PC SMPS repair. And completely true to the channel's name, diodes went wild indeed. Well done! (subscribed as of now)

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DiodeGoneWild has done quite a few SMPS videos one or two years ago. Not just the dodgy chargers.

    • @hullinstruments
      @hullinstruments 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope he does more like this

  • @liamspencer2641
    @liamspencer2641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hey DGW! I'm a junior technician for a power supply company, and I just wanted to say thank you for the in depth troubleshooting. This is literally my job everyday and you're really helping me by sharing your experience!

  • @Earthling418
    @Earthling418 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Epic level circuit analysis, reverse engineering and diagnostic evaluation. Also most pertinent detailed explanation.
    Love every presentation. Please, keep it up.

  • @filenotfound__3871
    @filenotfound__3871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    26:12 I have the exact same PSU with the exact same fault
    Do more PSU repairs, they are the best to learn electronics.

    • @Zebra_Paw
      @Zebra_Paw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i completely agree

    •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      approx was extremely low quality and cheap, it's not even worth disassembling, just throw it away

    • @filenotfound__3871
      @filenotfound__3871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @ I did like a year ago when it happened

    • @Zebra_Paw
      @Zebra_Paw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LOL

    • @bitelaserkhalif
      @bitelaserkhalif 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That particular psu looks like junk anyway

  • @raffaellobottoni871
    @raffaellobottoni871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Here you see the true knowledge and experience in electronics! In other words , The real Know how! Thumbs up! You are a master! 👍

  • @gamiwv
    @gamiwv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I hope that someone would have the idea to encourage his/her students to study with these videos. My compliments DiodeGoneWild

  • @hoggif
    @hoggif 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Use of ESR meter for diode measurement is quite clever or at least something I'd not have thought of.

    • @felixcat4346
      @felixcat4346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, you could also use a NanoVNA. Basically anything which puts out a high frequency to bypass the inductor.

    • @deadgamer9808
      @deadgamer9808 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@felixcat4346 hey bro can you help me regarding a problem with my smps i have a pc and i recently troubleshooting it for some reason during which i have found that my psu gives 24 volt ac along with 12 volt dc in output of 8 pin gpu connector is it normal to have ac output along with dc in power supply thanks

    • @erminbajric4633
      @erminbajric4633 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deadgamer9808 Don't rely on cheap multimeter readout.

    • @deadgamer9808
      @deadgamer9808 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@erminbajric4633 ok :)

    • @seckinseckin3919
      @seckinseckin3919 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@felixcat4346 and how about using IV Curve Tracer instead of NanoVNA ?

  • @Tigrou7777
    @Tigrou7777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The schematics you provide each time (and related explanations) are a huge plus and is what make difference with most repair / DIY channels.

  • @hernancoronel
    @hernancoronel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Hi Diode, thank you for the great video!

  • @philippezhang
    @philippezhang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    repairing SMPS is just a piece of cake for you :) Thanks a lot for detailed explanation and ESR meter extra usage

  • @alupci
    @alupci 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy got me 26 years back when doing high school. Back then we lack practical explanation in our country. All we learnt was theory and when he started explaining transistors, diodes etc the glitches started happening in my head. Perfect explanation!

  • @franzliszt8576
    @franzliszt8576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi diode your videos on smps are the best and you explain them so good!

  • @trueforum378
    @trueforum378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi there. I saw your video for the first time and as an electrical engineer I am VERY impressed with the depth of your knowledge and experience! GREAT JOB. I am curious how to you get to that level of knowledge. Hands on alone will never get you there! very impressive. Thanks for the efforts of putting such valuable videos together!

  • @kapsabet3
    @kapsabet3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow learned a lot from a true electric engineer working on a disaster to diagnose the problems. Just like my medical profession. Lots of things to think and interface. Thank you for sharing.

  • @marekquarda8023
    @marekquarda8023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vynikající práce. Zároveň bych chtěl poděkovat za vaše videa, která mě mnohému naučila.
    Děkuji moc. Marek

  • @memylastname9972
    @memylastname9972 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video really helped me to understand how to test components whilst they are still on board and the problems deciding what the test results are telling you. Smps seen to be in everything and I have always hated working them. But since watching several of your videos I am a lot more confident repairing them. Thank you.

  • @DrHouse-zs9eb
    @DrHouse-zs9eb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was very interesting! Looking forward to the next video about PSUs.

  • @Geniusinventor
    @Geniusinventor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was waiting for a power supply fix video for very long. Thank you!!

  • @juntendo6104
    @juntendo6104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WOW so much effort put into fixing the SMP!

  • @noway4040
    @noway4040 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, I am just passing by to thank you for making your videos and you channel. I just recently fixed my broken PC power supply using all that I learnt from you.

  • @bulwinkle
    @bulwinkle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is good to see the matt back heatsinks. So many are left as bare Al, presumably because some marketing dummy thinks it sells better.

  • @TNT5021
    @TNT5021 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best pcb fixing i saw in weeks

  • @abdelatifmariche8771
    @abdelatifmariche8771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my best topic on your channel

  • @hullinstruments
    @hullinstruments 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Danyk… I would super really appreciate it with a cherry on top if you could do more general troubleshooting videos like this.
    Its awesome what’s possible with than $100 in test gear.
    Like a handheld oscilloscope, multimeter, cheap in circuit ESR tester, $5 USB logic analyzers, $30 curve tracer kits available online

    • @hullinstruments
      @hullinstruments 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also the cheap five dollar USB soldering irons like big Clive has shown, or better is a $40 KSGER t12 station.
      You can even get a “laptop style” variable power supply. Mine was about $25 and is adjustable from 0-32 VDC at a couple of amps, and came with about 50 different interchangeable tips including plain jumper lead alligator clips, Several different types of BNC adapters, pretty much anything you could think of.
      Obviously that doesn’t compare with my professional lab and equipment, for around $100 that stuff will pretty much accomplish 95% of every repair. Seriously.

    • @hullinstruments
      @hullinstruments 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry to bug you and add another comment.
      I’ll try to add other things that come across my mind which makes troubleshooting 10 times easier. Maybe all this rambling will help someone.
      Another thing very useful if you don’t have a thermal camera is the flux and vaporizer trick big Clive showed a few weeks ago. Others also have shown it on TH-cam. Will easily show hotspots on the board.
      Also some thing I find very useful is one of those cheap $25 wireless/Wi-Fi microscope’s. It has an internal rechargeable battery and is HD quality, with surface mount LEDs around the ring of the front of the lens. I have a few nice stereo microscope‘s in my lab, one is an M scope Asian model that I really love, and one is a very nice Zeiss from the early 90s. But honestly I grab that little $25 wireless microscope more than anything, to help spot shoulder joint issues and other things. Mines about the size of a lipstick too but you can also get them that are as big around as a small pencil, like something you would use to check the insides of your ears. Those can even see under BGA chips and find issues in other type to reach impossible to see areas of the board.
      Another cheap and ingenious way to find issues, is with a cheap UV blacklight flashlight. It will reveal things like capacitor fluid leakage, charred or heat damaged parts of the board, or where a component failed violently and really didn’t leave a trace because it vaporized… But it left a little spew of a vapor on the board which will be seen under different wavelengths of UV
      you can see many things that are invisible with regular lighting conditions. I prefer 365nm but it’s good to have several different wavelengths, especially these days they’ve become inexpensive.
      UVA, UVB, and UVC led lights can we had for just a few dollars each. They will eliminate many different issues on the board, some of which respond better to certain wavelengths so it’s good to have all three. I have a multicolored little $5 flashlight that includes 365nm uv, bright red, green, and then of course white. It constantly comes in handy and the UV light can even shine through the PCB material from the back, revealing issues or damage that might be between layers of the circuitboard, especially on multilayered boards.

  • @DIYwithBatteries
    @DIYwithBatteries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Diodes are really going too...wild lol
    Thanks for sharing mate. 👍

  • @leozendo3500
    @leozendo3500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I learned about measuring mosfets. Thank you.

  • @mcg6762
    @mcg6762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice video! Love your content, especially the repairs! Greetings from Sweden

  • @Miata822
    @Miata822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Love the level of detail.

  • @saarike
    @saarike 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great repair with precious information! My humble thanks. 👍

  • @richardnanis
    @richardnanis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great explanation and very smart analysis and repair of circuitry! Very clever to use the ESR-meter to test the semiconductors in circuit! :-) Nice you could repair and fix it! I really hate removing these big heatsinks and components on them - it takes a lot of time and patience. I have to admit i am not that fast and smart in analysing the problems. I always have to look twice if i got the correct pins for measurement and have to think about where is gate, drain and source and what circuitry could cause what kind of side effects in measurement.

  • @hugoegon8148
    @hugoegon8148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice trick to use ESR meter. 👏🏻

  • @informediatech-bruno5766
    @informediatech-bruno5766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOVE when the DIODE GOES WILD

  • @Jumansa19
    @Jumansa19 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like always - great stuff - also like that you use more simply and in best sense "cheap" equipment - no expensive dreams, no "stylish" money robbing brandings

  • @Basement-Science
    @Basement-Science 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A great way to test transistors is to use a 3-terminal transistor tester. They will actually control the gate/base of it and make sure you dont accidentally turn it on or off. Plus they can measure capacitors and inductors and all that and get their actual values. They are super useful.

    • @Broken_Yugo
      @Broken_Yugo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah those cheap transistor/ESR testers are great for close enough hobby/repair work, probably the best use of a ATmega328p I've seen.

  • @sidewinderam9m
    @sidewinderam9m 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos are great, patreon for life thanks so much!

  • @speekergeek
    @speekergeek 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for providing this content! I work in a similar field and enjoy the process of troubleshooting :)

  • @TheRintincola
    @TheRintincola 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting video with lots of technical information!
    With this video I learned some new things!

  • @ziggyironic
    @ziggyironic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this video and sharing your knowledge. This was very interesting and helpful.

  • @BomJimmy
    @BomJimmy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for showing good use of ESR meter.

  • @mostlymotorcycles.
    @mostlymotorcycles. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always a most interesting and informative video.

  • @jkobain
    @jkobain 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understand nothing in building/repairing of such devices, but the video is very interesting. Thank you!

  • @giovannimarino4464
    @giovannimarino4464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for sharing. I think that should also interesting the ripple measurement just to see the power supply quality ...

  • @Rocco_v
    @Rocco_v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent detail, Nice kitty, Thank you!

  • @vhm14u2c
    @vhm14u2c 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful TS’ing, thanks for sharing!

  • @lmwlmw4468
    @lmwlmw4468 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No doubt about it ....DiodesGoneWild......and nothing like de-soldering the components........Great video.

  • @JAINUL_HAQ
    @JAINUL_HAQ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your videos very informative and your accent is just lovely....
    I worked with some chip Chinese Computer SMPS they are fireworks can triggered at any time with their own

  • @hullinstruments
    @hullinstruments 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be awesome if you could make a few more of these general troubleshooting videos.

  • @Electester
    @Electester 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent material!

  • @norvinsakiral4450
    @norvinsakiral4450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned a lot from this man.

  • @johnmcgiv1
    @johnmcgiv1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a very very interesting video thank you very much. I would really appreciate a video and more in depth use of the esr meter testing diodes transistors and any other components it can test in circuit great idea.

  • @grenzhochspannungshindernis
    @grenzhochspannungshindernis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should get 100 millions subscribers just for your accent and another 100m for you content.

  • @Atetus94
    @Atetus94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clever use of that ESR meter :)

  • @Waaasil
    @Waaasil 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for this educative video, well done. really nice video

  • @JunPTechnician
    @JunPTechnician 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job sir thanks for sharing new supporters here

  • @Krisztian5HUN
    @Krisztian5HUN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    more psu repair plz, i learn a lot from this vid...

  • @ranjithalumullithody
    @ranjithalumullithody 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video 👍🏻

  • @louisroux8517
    @louisroux8517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you it was very educational. I love the tip on a "cheater meter.😀

  • @tako1257
    @tako1257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are great for learning, they help me with engineering studies, but could you do some videos that specifically focus on edjucation? Thank you for all the free quality content!

  • @tobitechboy1461
    @tobitechboy1461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey mr diode!
    Thanks!

  • @AmateurRadioAwesome
    @AmateurRadioAwesome 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the epic explaination!

  • @electronic7979
    @electronic7979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful video

  • @pishta-ux5qz
    @pishta-ux5qz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice analysis

  • @ScienceLab760
    @ScienceLab760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi thanks for share, very interesting video i always learn something new with your content

  • @Mitgardxxl
    @Mitgardxxl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting. Thank you very much.

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha... it’s the same problem in my psu (Corsair 750w TX). Blow up many components and when I fix it the 12v it’s short as well. Now i'm waiting for the diodes to arrive.👌😅
    Great video. Peace out ✌️

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tricky testing in circuit.
    I just lift one leg up and test the part, but i should have lifted the component leg and not my own lol :-D
    I test large mosfets with a bulb for a load and a resistor to drive the gate.
    Same for scr's.
    Good enough for a rough test :-D

  • @FindLiberty
    @FindLiberty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like a LASER BEAM... very good sir!

  • @madeintanzania2995
    @madeintanzania2995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you sir, your on fireee

  • @MegaSunRise3
    @MegaSunRise3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    5:57 I once blew a filament lamp by doing that to a 450V cap

    • @DiodeGoneWild
      @DiodeGoneWild  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well, it's better to use 2 lamps in series :)

    • @barnabasnagy9595
      @barnabasnagy9595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow... How much watt was it?

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barnabasnagy9595
      I think he meant discharging the large capacitor. Wattage wouldn’t matter too much compared to the capacitance, given the 450V.

    • @barnabasnagy9595
      @barnabasnagy9595 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Conservator. I meant the wattage of the lamp, because I think it's harder to kill a 100w lamp than a 40w one.

  • @weerobot
    @weerobot 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool use of The Capacity Meter...

  • @endurancefriday2215
    @endurancefriday2215 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice keep up the good work.

  • @OnStageLighting
    @OnStageLighting 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love SMPS repair mysteries. Got an odd one on the bench here. Inverting arc welder that took out a winding on the startup circuit but no obvious short. Have lashed the winding back together, but still not brave enough to power it until I've found more info on why it burned out. It won't be fixable if happens again. Power MOSFET seems ok with a basic meter test, although charging the Gate doesn't seem to last long. Avalanche diode tests OK, but only a DMM test.

    • @OnStageLighting
      @OnStageLighting 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      PS, always discharge D-S before testing... ;-)

  • @andiyladdie3188
    @andiyladdie3188 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice fix and explanations. I have to say that those primary side, ultrafast diodes are bloody expensive to buy 😅😁

  • @sanjeevpatel4828
    @sanjeevpatel4828 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice information bro

  • @piconano
    @piconano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You need to build yourself an Octopus curve tracer.
    You can't fool them easily.

  • @ZENERVOLTAGE
    @ZENERVOLTAGE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!!!

  • @volleswerkfullorganpower249
    @volleswerkfullorganpower249 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just superb!

  • @Zebra_Paw
    @Zebra_Paw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The other ATX is also going to be very interesting. I did the same with a 24V 15A SMPS (supplying 230V with the switch set to 110V), and it just blown the mains capacitors (their were two of them because it was a HalfBridge power supply)!
    The transistors didn't blow up. Oneof them blown up two weeks later because the diodes that use to get rid of the inductive spikes were open circuit (i think there were fake diodes because it was a cheap chinese power supply). I replaced them and both transistors, because i had the same reference as the blown one but it was not the same transistor model so as they are in a HalfBridge i had to replace both for them to be identical.

  • @Shmbler
    @Shmbler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Job. I guess I have to order myself a pile of broken PSUs to repair. Should be fun.

  • @dhanuskalankathilaka
    @dhanuskalankathilaka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankssss . Mr.diode

  • @Speeder84XL
    @Speeder84XL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice and interesting

  • @fredflintstone1
    @fredflintstone1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    another great video :-)

  • @gacherumburu9958
    @gacherumburu9958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the info..👍

  • @user-eb3ir5pe7r
    @user-eb3ir5pe7r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    think yo for the video I learn a lof of things

  • @SonuKumar-ul9xv
    @SonuKumar-ul9xv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are a genius

  • @Emre-Sunay-Gebes
    @Emre-Sunay-Gebes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    loved it

  • @user-xc1ou2pc9z
    @user-xc1ou2pc9z 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks and good work

  • @curiosityseesomethinginter9116
    @curiosityseesomethinginter9116 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are a really good singer too😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

  • @michalcerny455
    @michalcerny455 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish my power supplies repairs went this nice. The ones i'm getting usualy have blown insulation on the transformer, what in most cases is not shown by multimeter, but apears only when powered. And yeah try to rewind transformer mudded with epoxy... :D :( But anyway great vid!

  • @Basement-Science
    @Basement-Science 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    So all this just from bad assembly on a heatsink. All it took was to tighten the screws properly and it would probably last many years more.

    • @electronicwaves
      @electronicwaves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The OEM is CWT, notorious for quality issues in the assembly and bad soldering.

    • @Broken_Yugo
      @Broken_Yugo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's the thing about super cheap off brand electronics, they pass the savings from having no QC on to you.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      PC PSUs are not designed to last many years. There's parts in them that degrade over time. Namely the output filter capacitors. Tier 1 PSUs you might get a long service life out of. Seasonic is offering 12 year warranties. Generic PSUs you're lucky to get 5 years out of before they start putting out damaging ripple.

    • @rfmerrill
      @rfmerrill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you want reliability you have to use server PSUs, from companies like Delta or Artesyn. They are designed to be put in a rack and left there, and run for decades nearly 24/7

    • @Basement-Science
      @Basement-Science 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rfmerrill Not sure about that. Server supplies are designed to be swapped easily in a redundant configuration, not to last forever.

  • @brucel.6078
    @brucel.6078 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are genius!!

  • @KaisUK
    @KaisUK ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude I love your videos but it would be amazing for us novices to have a visual reference to what components you are referring too when naming them and testing them just by pointing to the component on the opposite side before flipping the PCB to test the PCB traces or removing the diodes. The video was so easy to follow but I got lost because of information I lost because of it :(

  • @gizmosk2996
    @gizmosk2996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally some quality stuff on TH-cam! The perfection would be to show where you put the probes of the oscilloscope before each test. PS: if the video would be in Czech or Slovak this would be : na nezaplatenie ;)

  • @ericgorder1
    @ericgorder1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @ToleSan
    @ToleSan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi danyk. I hope you soon explain about that gate driver transformer.I dont know how the right winding (what materials, EE, or toroidal ferrite, how much the windings, how the inductance..). By the way, i have made two switch forward welding inverter based on your schematic in your website. Thats very powerfull and usefull (the video is in my channel here)

  • @dancar2537
    @dancar2537 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are great. thank you

  • @alimoradi2323
    @alimoradi2323 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir

  • @NingaNinga-qj7mx
    @NingaNinga-qj7mx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Bro ♥

  • @SuperBrainAK
    @SuperBrainAK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should get a DE5000 LCR meter, it will be able to measure the inductor and very low resistances to measure the traces low resistances.

  • @iljahyncica7100
    @iljahyncica7100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...and now let's explore the disaster :) :) :) // great videos - hat down !