There needs to be an inquest into that Tavistock clinic and WPATH, they've been committing systematic child abuse and endangerment for decades for political belief.
What surprises me most is these institutions aren't documenting outcomes after procedures. All patient outcomes. I'd think they would want to document everything that happens with their patients after treatment for many years. Just to learn more.
A good percentage of Brits already have private insurance, and if anything, this ruling will just push more to go that way. So called “puberty blockers” are not banned by any organization other than the NHS, which is pretty much on its last leg anyway. As long as there is private healthcare, these drugs will be available. This is so obvious to me, but I understand that most people believe what they want to believe.
I agree. Wishing you could be the opposite sex is not the same as believing you actually were born in the 'wrong' body. Trans used to just say they wanted to be the opposite sex, they did not claim to be born in the wrong body.
So true! There were zero kids with Gender Distress (TM Pending) back in the 1960's and before, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's, 2000's, 2010's. No such thing as being born in the wrong body.
Julia is spot on!! Nice to see people actually care about what’s happening to kids it’s an absolute disgrace this new trend is even more a reason to stop it as many lost kids are jumping on the bandwagon and when this trend has dyed down or gone they are left with a destroyed body for life!!
These children are not gender distressed They are Twitter and tick tock influenced They just need to get of the internet, social media and get some help
@@bumblebee2372 well, they usually call themselves transsexuals. Groups like Gender Dysphoria Alliance and people like Buck Angel are taking this on within their own frame of reference.
I can see a vast number of lawsuits for medical negligence coming down the road in the years to come. I would not like to be a former director of the Tavistock Clinic when the lawsuits arrive.
There will be law suits but the establishment will protect the evil people. Us taxpayers will pay out compensation to the surviving victims and that will be the end of it.
Tis excellent news, and I'm with Julia, I think we should see prosecutions for this. Anyone who examined the issue with even the smallest amount of critical thinking would have come to this conclusion years ago, so either they did and they ignored it, or they didn't because they were so ideologically captured that they lost their power of logical reasoning. Either way it's criminal negligence and they should stand trial for their crimes.
re the "natural" argument, i had someone tell me that trans happens because of prenatal hormones in the womb, he had no answer when i asked him if the same hormones were responsible for the detransing 20 years later
Richie Herron is suing the NHS because the staff there inappropriately told him to ignore his doubts about a decision on the surgeries. He's got permanent continence problems now in his mid-30s.@@JaenEngineering
he's not talking about health insurance, which is small fries in the insurance world. He's talking about the BIG insurers who underwrite general liability and professional liability policies. These companies are much, much larger than health insurers .@@JaenEngineering
@@JaenEngineering That makes no difference. All doctors and hospitals in the UK carry malpractice insurance. That's who is going to get sued, not the insurance company that paid for the treatment. In the US the patients insurance provider has little to no liability because the treatments are doctor recommended.
"WPATH" is an Ideology, NOT a "leading world authority on gender medicine"! The Harry Benjamin Standards of Care is the definitive standard, because it is stringent and thourgh, which weeds out those who do not have gender dysphoria.
Then why do the WPATH files reveal that there are doctors, at WPATH, who feel that their policies aren't based on science and are, at best, experimental? I remember the lobotomy fiasco. Then the Oxycontin mess which killed thousands. Doctors aren't omnipotent. They make mistakes and are just as vulnerable to indoctrination as anyone else. You'd think that the example of Joseph Mengele and his associates would have made this clear.
There is no such thing as “real gender dysphoria”, there are just people who are able to recover from it and a minority who (for various reasons including comorbidities like PTSD and autism) are not able to recover from it. Studies on intersex children do not support the idea of a real trait called gender identity that exists separate from gender expression.
They’ll just have to go private now. This has absolutely nothing to do with what’s right for human beings. It’s all about what’s right for corporations.
Politicians do not deliver on individual well-being because they are not focused on such a thing. They are intensely focused on things such as power, authority and status. They are not grounded in the world of people's lives. Individual well being is off their radar.
Agreed. As a trans widow, watching my ex-husband ruin his health and cause our children trauma of abandonment, I know estrogen in men makes them bizarrely uncaring towards everyone else, and testosterone in women, the same. Data on 57 trans widows at channel, name in handle here.
@@UteHeggenTranswidowHealsA man has to already be extremely narcissistic and uncaring toward others to even do that crap in the first place. The estrogen might have increased it somewhat, but the massive flaw in character was already there, before he even started the estrogen.
it had to happen in the uk first because of the impending lawsuits. taxes paid for the consultants, paid for the drugs, paid for the surgeries, and taxes will be paying for the compensation.
Having taken anabolic steroids off n on for 20 years… hormones fuck with your head in a huge way. When you’re shooting testosterone in your ass twice a week it makes you very emotional especially rage. I can’t imagine me dealing with that emotional roller coaster as a child. It would be like giving a kid crack or meth
@@ransakreject5221 indeed. some female detransitioners have reported a "high" from testosterone injections that lasts for around 1-3 days or so, and then the next 11 days are spend anticipating that next shot. And that's when it's being administered by someone else like a medical professional or parent. I imagine the kids that get ahold of this "DIY hormone replacement therapy" from online predators, and who are administering it themselves, might be easily tempted to take it more often. Greatly compounding the consequences to their health, not realizing what losing their health will be like because they're kids. They can't fathom it.
You need to be cautious and keep an eye out. What they said is they will be conducting clinical trials. Check Maya’s bird post. NHS updated the website “GIDS is out. New Children and Young People's Gender Service is in”. Sue Evans in 2006, Bell in 2018, Gluck in 2022 and now anon. As Magdalen said, “What will it take?”
Any former directors will be covered for their actions by insurance and other policies they write up themselves. That’s business law, another ‘protected’ characteristic! across public services we have lots of fake expert directors, CEO’s, commissioners, mayors, with no academic qualifications other than fake ‘management’ or leadership qualifications. Like gender identity, apparently if can talk in a loud voice about absolutely anything, you can now identify as a leader and claim expertise on every subject under the sun. And worse - impose your ideologies through new laws under the guise of improving others in society. What we can do is ‘talk’ about it and even that may be soon stopped using covert hate crime laws once again written by very very dodgy unelected individuals no one has heard of.
Where i live paremts arent allowed to do anything other then deny your kid if you dont believe them. Once they are 13 you have no right to put them into help at school and in therapy they instantly affirm .. so guess what happens?
I don't know how you can say it's not okay to enter a contract you don't understand when literally every adult with a phone signs a terms of service they don't read and that's a binding legal contract. Almost as if, to protect kids rights to not sign contracts they don't understand, you'd also have to do the same for adults.
I agree about many of the things he says, except this one: @3:52..they have and do kill themselves. this was insensitive of him to say specially considering there are parents there whose children have killed themselves over this.
Also, I think that this is masking the problem of lower level of testesterone in young males. I mean, now young 20 years old men has the same levels of testestorone than 60 years old men in 1950. What are the reasons for that? And it is a major health issue for men. And I have not heard what is happening for women, but I presume something similar. Maybe gender dysphoria is only some low levels of hormones? 🤔 And puberty fixes those in a few years.
Good parents will lose their kids if they won't allow their child to medically change their gender. It's more than just bad parenting. It's an ideological contagion and very likely Marxist inspired.
Is there though? They say that they are misgendered at birth but then say born into the wrong body. Both require a body as evidence and yet the body available negates the claim. It's all a bunch of rubbish and people believe it.
I've been interviewed by the BBC once. Not as an important person, just as a random dude. The way this works is they cut the interviews whichever way they want. I knew that so it was ok. Still kind of miffed because by the time the interview aired what I had said had become super relevant and they cut that entire part out.
The BBC never mentioned this on the mainstream news.
They've supported the narrative in the past, they must ignore this news.
Hardly surprising from the BBC.
😂 for still watching the bbc
Of course, most of what's on the BBC is "cobblers" - don't know why that word springs to mind in this context 😏 !!!
They're captured by the gender agenda, sadly. I stopped watching years ago.
There needs to be an inquest into that Tavistock clinic and WPATH, they've been committing systematic child abuse and endangerment for decades for political belief.
What surprises me most is these institutions aren't documenting outcomes after procedures.
All patient outcomes. I'd think they would want to document everything that happens with their patients after treatment for many years. Just to learn more.
Hallelujah. Too late for so many already permanently damaged. Bring on class action lawsuits, and prosecute everyone involved in this child abuse.
A good percentage of Brits already have private insurance, and if anything, this ruling will just push more to go that way. So called “puberty blockers” are not banned by any organization other than the NHS, which is pretty much on its last leg anyway. As long as there is private healthcare, these drugs will be available. This is so obvious to me, but I understand that most people believe what they want to believe.
Part of ceepy greta thunders depopulation agenda. Check out assisted suicide in Canada atm. All part of the Wef BS. Elites want estate living
The lawsuits from this debacle will run into the billions.
Hopefully someday we will look back at this transanity the same way we do with lobotomies.
he tax payer will of course pay.
It needs to be formally described as what it is : surgical and chemical gay conversion therapy.
Prior to gender ideology making a splash, there were almost no kids with gender distress
I agree. Wishing you could be the opposite sex is not the same as believing you actually were born in the 'wrong' body. Trans used to just say they wanted to be the opposite sex, they did not claim to be born in the wrong body.
When did gender ideology start making a splash? Could you give an approximate timeframe?
So true! There were zero kids with Gender Distress (TM Pending) back in the 1960's and before, 1970's, 1980's, 1990's, 2000's, 2010's. No such thing as being born in the wrong body.
Well there was but it didn't require medical treatment we just went thru puberty and grew up fine.
@@VixenArt3yeah around 7 years ago it started getting really big .. and the pandemic made it really explode ...
Julia is spot on!! Nice to see people actually care about what’s happening to kids it’s an absolute disgrace this new trend is even more a reason to stop it as many lost kids are jumping on the bandwagon and when this trend has dyed down or gone they are left with a destroyed body for life!!
No kidding - I got a video ad for a puberty blocker at the beginning of this video. Suprrelin LA.
On my God the irony.
These children are not gender distressed
They are Twitter and tick tock influenced
They just need to get of the internet, social media and get some help
And the school curriculum needs a full review
You nailed it with the social media influence.
When it is being taught in school, and reinforced by targetted media campaigns it is hard to see it as anything other than blatent social engineering.
But what about the older transgender people who haven’t been affected by this influence?
@@bumblebee2372 well, they usually call themselves transsexuals. Groups like Gender Dysphoria Alliance and people like Buck Angel are taking this on within their own frame of reference.
I can see a vast number of lawsuits for medical negligence coming down the road in the years to come. I would not like to be a former director of the Tavistock Clinic when the lawsuits arrive.
There will be law suits but the establishment will protect the evil people. Us taxpayers will pay out compensation to the surviving victims and that will be the end of it.
Tis excellent news, and I'm with Julia, I think we should see prosecutions for this. Anyone who examined the issue with even the smallest amount of critical thinking would have come to this conclusion years ago, so either they did and they ignored it, or they didn't because they were so ideologically captured that they lost their power of logical reasoning. Either way it's criminal negligence and they should stand trial for their crimes.
Puberty is normal and natural, part of the human maturation process.
It is also necessary for proper brain development and a functional reproductive system.
And the Labour Party decided that they would prefer to believe Stonewall than 'follow the science' and agree with 'our NHS'.
Except this was under the Tories, not Labour. So we're screwed either way at the next election because they all buy into it.
re the "natural" argument, i had someone tell me that trans happens because of prenatal hormones in the womb, he had no answer when i asked him if the same hormones were responsible for the detransing 20 years later
A big change is many insurance companies have looked at the looming train wreck of legal cases and getting worried
In the US maybe, but the UK doesn't have an insurance based healthcare system, so completely irrelevant.
Richie Herron is suing the NHS because the staff there inappropriately told him to ignore his doubts about a decision on the surgeries. He's got permanent continence problems now in his mid-30s.@@JaenEngineering
@@JaenEngineeringcan be sued for malpractice, and all health care is covered by insurance. Rediculous not to have insurance in place.
he's not talking about health insurance, which is small fries in the insurance world. He's talking about the BIG insurers who underwrite general liability and professional liability policies. These companies are much, much larger than health insurers .@@JaenEngineering
@@JaenEngineering That makes no difference. All doctors and hospitals in the UK carry malpractice insurance. That's who is going to get sued, not the insurance company that paid for the treatment. In the US the patients insurance provider has little to no liability because the treatments are doctor recommended.
"WPATH" is an Ideology, NOT a "leading world authority on gender medicine"!
The Harry Benjamin Standards of Care is the definitive standard, because it is stringent and thourgh, which weeds out those who do not have gender dysphoria.
HB Institute morphed into WPATH, had the pedophile connection (John Money) in deep, disturbing ways.
Then why do the WPATH files reveal that there are doctors, at WPATH, who feel that their policies aren't based on science and are, at best, experimental? I remember the lobotomy fiasco. Then the Oxycontin mess which killed thousands.
Doctors aren't omnipotent. They make mistakes and are just as vulnerable to indoctrination as anyone else. You'd think that the example of Joseph Mengele and his associates would have made this clear.
There is no such thing as “real gender dysphoria”, there are just people who are able to recover from it and a minority who (for various reasons including comorbidities like PTSD and autism) are not able to recover from it. Studies on intersex children do not support the idea of a real trait called gender identity that exists separate from gender expression.
Theyou are the same organization and have always been wack
Hanna Barnes and Dr David Bell... have said that children for NHS means under the ageof 17 SEVENTEEN 😧 So NHS have lowered the age of adulthood....!😮
The history of Unit 731 is not meant to be used as an organisational mission statement
They’ll just have to go private now. This has absolutely nothing to do with what’s right for human beings. It’s all about what’s right for corporations.
Politicians do not deliver on individual well-being because they are not focused on such a thing. They are intensely focused on things such as power, authority and status. They are not grounded in the world of people's lives. Individual well being is off their radar.
Well done everyone who fought to protect children !
The lawsuits need to be against WPATH. All roads lead to WPATH.
It should be banned permanently for all ages.
Agreed. As a trans widow, watching my ex-husband ruin his health and cause our children trauma of abandonment, I know estrogen in men makes them bizarrely uncaring towards everyone else, and testosterone in women, the same. Data on 57 trans widows at channel, name in handle here.
@@UteHeggenTranswidowHealsA man has to already be extremely narcissistic and uncaring toward others to even do that crap in the first place. The estrogen might have increased it somewhat, but the massive flaw in character was already there, before he even started the estrogen.
it had to happen in the uk first because of the impending lawsuits. taxes paid for the consultants, paid for the drugs, paid for the surgeries, and taxes will be paying for the compensation.
Having taken anabolic steroids off n on for 20 years… hormones fuck with your head in a huge way.
When you’re shooting testosterone in your ass twice a week it makes you very emotional especially rage.
I can’t imagine me dealing with that emotional roller coaster as a child.
It would be like giving a kid crack or meth
@@ransakreject5221 indeed. some female detransitioners have reported a "high" from testosterone injections that lasts for around 1-3 days or so, and then the next 11 days are spend anticipating that next shot.
And that's when it's being administered by someone else like a medical professional or parent. I imagine the kids that get ahold of this "DIY hormone replacement therapy" from online predators, and who are administering it themselves, might be easily tempted to take it more often. Greatly compounding the consequences to their health, not realizing what losing their health will be like because they're kids. They can't fathom it.
You need to be cautious and keep an eye out. What they said is they will be conducting clinical trials. Check Maya’s bird post. NHS updated the website “GIDS is out. New Children and Young People's Gender Service is in”. Sue Evans in 2006, Bell in 2018, Gluck in 2022 and now anon. As Magdalen said, “What will it take?”
Insane that we were giving to children at all. N now all these kids will never have children n could have cancer.
Fantastic podcast. Thank you to all concerned.
Any former directors will be covered for their actions by insurance and other policies they write up themselves. That’s business law, another ‘protected’ characteristic! across public services we have lots of fake expert directors, CEO’s, commissioners, mayors, with no academic qualifications other than fake ‘management’ or leadership qualifications. Like gender identity, apparently if can talk in a loud voice about absolutely anything, you can now identify as a leader and claim expertise on every subject under the sun. And worse - impose your ideologies through new laws under the guise of improving others in society. What we can do is ‘talk’ about it and even that may be soon stopped using covert hate crime laws once again written by very very dodgy unelected individuals no one has heard of.
Where i live paremts arent allowed to do anything other then deny your kid if you dont believe them. Once they are 13 you have no right to put them into help at school and in therapy they instantly affirm .. so guess what happens?
I don't know how you can say it's not okay to enter a contract you don't understand when literally every adult with a phone signs a terms of service they don't read and that's a binding legal contract.
Almost as if, to protect kids rights to not sign contracts they don't understand, you'd also have to do the same for adults.
I agree about many of the things he says, except this one: @3:52..they have and do kill themselves. this was insensitive of him to say specially considering there are parents there whose children have killed themselves over this.
Don't ban comments by Joan Rivers. She had a lot to say about it.
I think JHB is amazing, great to see her on the show 👍🎉
Transsexual femininity in men masculinity in women extremely rare
It's obviously profitable to prescribe these puberty blockers, will they now look at Statins?
Just love the censorship.
Also, I think that this is masking the problem of lower level of testesterone in young males. I mean, now young 20 years old men has the same levels of testestorone than 60 years old men in 1950. What are the reasons for that? And it is a major health issue for men. And I have not heard what is happening for women, but I presume something similar.
Maybe gender dysphoria is only some low levels of hormones? 🤔 And puberty fixes those in a few years.
No science here, same as giving ritalin to children for the fictional diagnosis of ADHD. I wonder if Spiked will pick that up?
Didn't someone say your body is your temple?
TFFT.
They had to be banned because some people suck at parenting
Good parents will lose their kids if they won't allow their child to medically change their gender. It's more than just bad parenting. It's an ideological contagion and very likely Marxist inspired.
Why the complete deniel of material reality?
Is there though? They say that they are misgendered at birth but then say born into the wrong body. Both require a body as evidence and yet the body available negates the claim. It's all a bunch of rubbish and people believe it.
Prosecutions please!🙏
Do no harm pretty much destroys western allopathic medicine...
Puberty blockers aren’t banned.
Surely you can’t blame the BBC. They broadcast The News.
Well, they edit the news, meaning they choose what news to broadcast.
I've been interviewed by the BBC once. Not as an important person, just as a random dude. The way this works is they cut the interviews whichever way they want. I knew that so it was ok. Still kind of miffed because by the time the interview aired what I had said had become super relevant and they cut that entire part out.
Except that they don't broadcast the news. They tell you what they want you to hear. They're not much better than Goebbels propaganda machine.
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Big pharma. why are you having this pretentious discussion? We know the wrongs of the world but let's gets washed up newsreaders to talk about it 🙄
Maybe someone who watches will get motivated to do something useful.
Well done