AMSTERDAM TO BRUSSELS NS INTERNATIONAL INTERCITY DIRECT / DUTCH TRAIN TRIP REPORT
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ธ.ค. 2020
- Hello and welcome to my first trip report of 2021. Happy new year to everyone and hopefully it'll be a much better year all round!
Today we're back in The Netherlands to review the International Intercity service from Amsterdam Centraal to Brussels-Midi/Zuid in Belgium. It's a loco hauled service which is a great alternative between the cities, along the same corridor that Thalys & Eurostar services use. Enjoy the ride!
Date of Filming: 13/7/20
Camera: GoPro Hero 7 Black
Operator: NS (Nederlandse Spoorwegen)
Departure: Amsterdam Centraal, The Netherlands
Arrival: Brussels, Belgium
Cost: €24.50 (Second Class)
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Pre-covid these trains were often very crowded especially in rush hour when the line basically serves as a commuter service between Rotterdam, Schiphol and Amsterdam.
For sure yes 😊
Impressive trains and services! 👏 Very good trip report as always and the sunshine ☀ helped 🇬🇧
Haha yeah it was a lovely day! Thank you 😌
Great video! And happy new year. 🎉
Thanks! To you too 🎉☺️
Im an absolute fan of these sets. While I never 'need' to use them (I live in the east of the country) I sometimes just visit the large cities just to ride one of these trains.
Haha I'd probably do the same 😂
Nice report and a great start to the new year! I really like leaving NS cabviews as a background videos when I'm working on something. Their infrastructure is top-notch, however the grafitti is as common as here in Prague..
Thank you, happy new year!
Nice trip report! Happy 2021! 🥳
And to you too! 🎉😃
Great video !! Happy NewYear !!
Happy new year to you too!
Great video :-)... I used to do that journey every week for a few years as part of my commute from London to Amsterdam, I could fly due to health reaosn, and I loved the time I spent on board. Loads of time to get on with work and often more productive than the office ;-). Missing my train time due to covid :-( ... Keep on travelling!!!
Thanks! We'll be back travelling soon ☺️
Thanks for the trip !!!
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Thank you, nonstop eurotrip! Happy New Year 2021 to you !!!
And thanks for liking a video of Dylan !!!
I like l Dylan's videos! Happy new year to you too Louis 🎉😄
@@NonstopEurotrip A big thank you to you!
Thanks for the information, this really helps for future travel and to save money.
You're welcome 😁
Great video! Honestly, I don't know why, but I much prefer loco-hauled trains. You reminded me of my trip two years ago when I took the same train :-) I wish you all the best in 2021!
Happy 2021 to you too Pete! 🎉 I prefer loco hauled too, unless they're a Railjet or they do 300km/h 😃
I agree Pete. I was fortunate in my younger days to travel when most long distance trains were loco hauled. Growing up in Edinburgh I was lucky enough to travel on the East Coast Main Line from Edinburgh to London Kings Cross a few times where the motive power was a BR Class 55 'Deltic', BR Mk 2D, E or F coaches made for a very comfortable journey, and the bonus...a proper dining carriage with a full breakfast, lunch or dinner table service. Great days, 100mph (160kmh) running and that 'Deltic' sound - a 36 cylinder symphony!
The station ( 1:18 ) looks clean. Fantastic report!
Thank you!
Nice Video!
Thumbs up! 👍👍👍
Greetings from switzerland
Greetings, thanks! 😚
Last week I have the same trip !
Good video!!
Ooh exciting 😄
I know this route very well, having worked on it for several years as the operator of a catering trolley, and later as team manager for said operators. I have seen a lot of change in my years. The high speed line opening between Schiphol and Rotterdam, the complete rebuilding of our home base Rotterdam, and the opening of the tunnel underneath Antwerp where the main ones. Later there was the rerouting through Breda instead of Roosendaal.
I basically learnt to speak French on this train.
And indeed the Fyra-disaster... It cost me my job in the end :-(
Sorry to hear that! Hopefully the new service (whenever it starts) will make the route faster and more competitive with Thalys 🤞🏻
@@NonstopEurotrip I have moved on since :-) When eveything is back to normal I will be able to choose Thalys, intercity or Eurostar to Brussels. That is almost spoiling us Dutchies and Belgians.
Great job sir 👍
Thanks so much ✌🏻😁
Very good v log.
Thanks a lot for the interior views! I'm currently decorating models of these so seeing all the different stripey patterns and where they are used is very helpful, together with photos.
I always found the ICR cars a bit odd and quirky especially considering the differently sized doors of "outside swinging" type, this type of doors is more common on trams and buses.
The rolling stock (locomotive and cars) can only reach 160 km/h but they are planning to replace them by ICNG sets (200 km/h). The cars are around 40 years old but still in good shape thanks to several modernizations (originally they had no air-conditioning, open dump toilets and different seats). The livery, classic blue and yellow, is however the same from the 1970s, the "Fyra" white and pink wasn't popular and didn't hold for long.
Ah excellent, I hope it goes well! 😃
Hello, I really liked your video. I hope to make that trip in the future next time I'm in Europe, hoping for next year... fingers crossed!! Thanks 😊
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video ☺️
It's over 20 years ago now, but for 18 months I used to commute daily from Amsterdam RAI, near where I was living at the time, to my IT job in Rotterdam and back in the evening - changing onto and off this train at Schiphol Airport.
This version of the train has been modernised somewhat, but it was always comfortable, clean and very reliable (I can't remember being late very often). A couple of things - there was an excellent trolley service with maybe the best coffee I have ever purchased on a train. And between Den Haag (the Hague) and Schiphol, it was a birdwatcher's paradise (ornithology is one of my hobbies).
I also did the complete journey to Brussels a few times on leisure trips. Again the reliability of the service was excellent.
Leuke video 🙂💪🏻
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Am addicted to train travelling, almost every day am going trough Holland to every place almost haha
Me too,.not Holland tho 😂
happy new year and great video on the ns international from amderstam to brussels very nice looking trains and i really like the Benelux countries when its possible to do so i want to visit there this year
Happy new year to you too Daniel! 🎉☺️
@@NonstopEurotrip thanks you too
Hello your video is also very nice I like it greetings 👍
Thank you very much 🙏🏻
Compared to other services in the Netherlands and Belgium, tickets for these trains are actually rather expensive. For example: Groningen to Antwerpen (second class, full fare) would be € 39,60. Groningen to Maastricht, which is a similar distance, is only € 27,40. Before these trains used the high speed line, the prices were a lot lower and the travel time wasn't that much (if at all) longer in most cases. If you are travelling from/to a station in Belgium that is farther away from the border, it is often cheaper to use a combination of a Belgian domestic ticket and an international ticket. If you travel regularly, the difference in cost can get quite big. (There are disadvantages though: you do need to know the rules and, in case of problems during your trip, it can lead to issues with passenger rights.)
Thanks for the great information ℹ️🙏🏻
True, true, the ns lost a lot of money due to fyra and having to lease two expensive traxx locomotives, and the passengers have to pay for their bad choices. Add to that the two detours in Breda and Brussel Zaventem, each adding about 15 minutes, if not more negate the time gained by using the hsl. The train was 5 minutes slower from amsterdam. Mostly due to an increase in stops in Belgium (from 5 to 8). So now we have to pay more for a (sometimes) slower journey.
Your video is fantastic bus train in Germany 🇩🇪
big like for this share
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Great video, im also looking forward to the replacement of these trains in late 2021 or early 2022 by the ICNG (Coradia Stream by Alstom) wich can travel at speeds up to 200 km/h so the time difference with the thalys wont be much. Hopefully it will stay around the same price.
And me, can't wait to ride them!
Nice
Thank you! 👌🏻
My first ever rail journey abroad was on this service from Amsterdam to Brussels back in 1995 or so. I don't think anything has changed!
Somethings are best left alone 😉
@@NonstopEurotrip Doesn’t this run on the HSL now?
@@erik_griswold yes, between Rotterdam and Antwerp
@@NonstopEurotrip And between Schiphol and Rotterdam.
Since 1995, the train has increased in speed, and stopped calling at Den Haag HS, and Roosendaal (crossing the border near Breda instead). It also got quite some extra stops, and a direction reversal (at Breda), causing it to lose most of it's speed gain.
The Dutch railway system is overloaded with trains, causing fast trains to have to run quite slow. The Belgians add to this by using this train as their regional intercity train, stopping at quite some needless stops on the way. This is also because the Belgians want the Thalys to look better comparatively.
@@NonstopEurotrip And in between Amsterdam en Schiphol!
I've only ever done this trip with thalys, love dutch and Belgian ic trains though
I've never used rip-off Thalys 🤷🏻♂️
Actual scheduled speed is 120-130 km/h. In the more soggy parts of NL 140 or higher is not possible without special track preparation. On lots of parts the speed is even 100km/h or less, e.g. the now sunken track near Amelo is 100km/h. Outside stations it is like the UK. lots of old disused junctions that brings speed down to 40km/h. Some commuter trains have a regulated top speed of 130 km/h. I helped creating an experimental train simulator for NS in ~ 2005.
ok thank :)
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Very nice! How does the travel time on the Intercity Direct Amsterdam-Brussels compare to Thalys on the same route? Can you buy tickets for this international route with the regular ticket machines, or do you have to go to a special counter to get these ticket?
It's about an hour longer, but usually half the price. Yes, you can use NS station ticket machines or their app.
Wow! Beautifull video! What camera did you use?
GoPro Hero 7 Black
Utrecht has a railway museum at Station Maliebaan. Worth a visit.
Next time, I definitely will!
@@NonstopEurotrip If you buy your ticket at Utrecht Central, you can take the train to the museum, a trip of 17 minutes. It goes every hour, Maliebaan Station is not in normal train service and only dedicated trains for the museum end there. It was the old central station of competitor HIJSM (counterpart of train company SS, Staats Spoorwegen, the State Railways). After they merged, station Maliebaan wasn’t needed anymore, the Central Station of SS was better located. Since then station Maliebaan was unnecessary and nowadays houses the train museum.
Thanks for the video. Very helpful. Are the cars marked on the outside in any way to indicate 1st or 2nd class?
Yes they are, a 1 for first and a 2 for second
I've lived in several European countries which includes the Netherlands. In my experience Amsterdam is the city with the best infrastructure and connections to other parts of the world. .
I'd have to say Vienna
Have taken this train From Amsterdam to Antwerpen this summer. Good experience, overall a great value! In a few years the NS will operate this journey with their new ICNG trains. These will operate at 200km/h so if NS doesn't raise prices it would be an even better value. (especially vs the thalys)
And of course: Happy new year!
@@walterclements7968 It's sad that the Fyra flopped, instead of choosing between Alstom or Siemens. But one of the reasons that the Netherlands didn't want Alstom, was because it's of France. The irony is that the ICNG also is from Alstom.
I'm curious if the new M7 of Belgium is going to ride in the Netherlands too, potentially until Roosendaal. They are also capable of 200km/h, have everywhere outlets, high capacity and very soft while riding.
@@denjo3131 yeah it's a shame the whole thing flopped so hard. Although the terrible trains were poorly made by AnsaldoBreda, the NS failed miserably too. Kinda sad since the new ICNG is 50km/h slower. Just a fast intercity, not a real high speed train. Those M7 trains do look good, hopefully they will go to Roosendaal as well. And let's hope both train will start operating this year.
@@denjo3131 No, it has nothing to do with France, the Netherlands has been ordering a lot of French trains over the years. The problem is that the NS wanted a rather specific train:
>Speed limit:250 km/h (no bonus for faster)
> Unique design
> Order of merely 17 trainsets.
This combination meant that Alstom simply didn't offer a bid. They were willing to do something if any of the three demands wasn't part of the list, but with all three it was impossible to deliver. AnsaldoBreda was willing to try for a lower price (because they are inexperienced in building high speed trains, so they just were like: might as well try)...
An order this large has to be done using a public tender, where companies can write their bid,and then they have to choose a bid based on the way they pre-defined how to select the winner. In this case, the winner was chosen by price.
@@nanderv If I recall correctly, NS didn't even have a choice since AnsaldoBreda was the only company with a bid for the exact specifications layed out.
Another interesting detail, two half V250's where inspected and graded on some scale which I don't know the name of right now, but points where given for each defect, 5 points for comfort defects, 10 points for reliability issues and 20 points for safety defects. Each EMU was allowed up to 10 points (for an entire EMU) and if it got over 10 points the train would be deemed unsafe. The worst of the two half EMU's got 2019 points and the other half got 1157 points.
Always loved riding the NS services.
If you're going back to do Rotterdam, covid permitting, you should also go to Antwerpen Centraal to have a look, it's an awesome station!
Was hoping to do Eurostar/ICE from London to Cologne last year but, again, the pandemic had other ideas.
Also those ETR 700 trains are possibly the ugliest ever created. Amtrak have a similar "front of car" looking design on their new Avelia Liberty trains - this trend needs to be stopped!
I think it's called 'streamlining' 🤣 I'll definitely check out Antwerp too this year 🙂
Thank you so much for this! I’m planning a trip for the fall and was looking for the best route. now I know that I can board from Schiphol on my arrival day and save time. One question: can people get off at different stop and get back on to final destination? Will appreciate you input✌🏼
Yes, as long as you have a flexible ticket and it's on the same day. Glad to help! ✌🏻
Fun trip. I'm curious was there any coronavirus testing when you arrived at Brussels station?
Nope, none at all.
This service employs 2 x Traxx locos, one at each end, with a 10 coach set. Dutch railways run on the right, but the HSL from Rotterdam to Antwerp is left hand running. 160 km/h only possible over the 2 HSL stretches.
Thank for the info! 👍🏻
I was surprised to read recently that Belgian railways run on the left. I had thought they'd be like Netherlands railways.
To Brussels only 7 coaches. In the Netherlands you can see ICD with 7 or 9 coaches. 160 km/h also possible on classic lines in Belgium.
@@brucewilliams8714 Depends on the nationality of the engineers they hired to build the network. The Dutch apparently looked East, the Belgians preferred British engineers. The two countries also run on different voltages for their power lines; very inefficient for an "ever closer European Union".
First of all, Happy 2021!
15:36 Video's final score: 8.7
Hello, happy new year to you! But I never understood how you rate! lol! How is it possible?
@@louislegrand2865 I don't know but I like it ☺️
Happy 2021 Pedro!
there is a another loco international train from Berlin to Amsterdam
My friend has already reviewed that 😊
@@rubenmc6347 I know, he's my friend 🤗
Fff
@@NonstopEurotrip jll
@@NonstopEurotrip Another city worth visiting is Deventer. Largest Dickens festival in the World according to BBC. Large street theatre festival. Largest second hand open air book fair. Film location of a Bridge to far. Nice old town. Biased, I live there.
Thank you. It would be nice to add some tips for carrying a heavy luggage and for wheelchairs. At first, it seams that there's an intimidating step to get aboard.
All my latest videos include this information ☺️
Ive never actually been in one of these. I would love to tho
I thought they were like the insides of the koploper, but now i see that they are slightly more high class. (Airplane seats and stuff)
I've never been on a Koploper 😢
Take a trip from utrecht to groningen, and pick any trip 48 minutes after any hour (so 48 minutes after 11 am, 12 am, 2 am) then you’ll be in one
Like in Switzerland the comfort is made for shorter distances.
Looks ok, but not better as a local train.
But I love the company design outside.
Yeah it's ok, but nothing amazing 👍🏻
What about Amsterdam to Dusseldorf,on BB BAHN ICE Train? In future yours it might be possible to go direct from Amsterdam to Copenhagen with this new tunnel between Germany and Denmark
from Fehrmarn given the green light.
Wow that sounds interesting! I've actually got an ICE video coming up this Friday 🙂
Locomotive and coaches are in NS livery, but the coaches also have the Belgian Railways (B in an oval) on the sides. That would have been a nice snippet of information to add.
Didn't even notice 😂
@@NonstopEurotrip That logo isn’t that original or prominent as the Dutch NS one.
@@RealConstructor It actually dates back to the thirties. In my opinion NMBS/SNCB has the best looking logo of any railway company.
@@patrickreuvekamp You may think it’s the best logo, although a letter with an oval can hardly be called a logo, but I disagree. It’s almost the same as a nationality car sticker we used to have before the EU number plates. It is at most a nice logo, but there is something not right about it. It almost disappears next to the Dutch NS logo. It is an old, but arty and humble logo. For commercial purposes that isn’t great. The Dutch logo isn’t the best logo, but it is prominent and immediately recognizable. Commercially that is how it should be.
1:25 Thats typical for the netherlands. Many stations have an old gothic or some other type of old architecture as a base, but are then expanded with modern architecture.
I love them 😀
Did you know the waste bin is almost the same as in the 1960s or before? A modern addition is the lid.
Funny 🤣
Love the Dutch language...Yeah I've got a neighbor who is Dutch! So much more refined sounding than German...(Fan in Texas)
I prefer Italian 😂
Dutch is a German dialect.
@@tsjukemar absolutely not
Dutch can be spoken with lots of different accents. Some may be painful. When as a child I travelled a 3 hour trip from Schiedam to Emmen, the announcements made by the conductors changed from a Rotterdam rolling R to a more Saxon dialect of the east of NL. Sometimes you hear the more singsong accent of the Frysian language. Down south in Brabant it sounds more Flemish.
Hello sorry are the underground concourses a regular feature of European stations or are they limited to a scattered few?
Pretty common actually 👍🏻
Just a nice fact to look forward to: in a couple of years time our country will have new trains commuting on that line. To be more exact: the Alstom Coradia Stream which can go 200km/h eventually. Read more about it here: nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercity_Nieuwe_Generatie (translate it directly)
As a fellow Dutch citizen I'm really proud of our rail network and the yearly schedule. The punctuality is really great as well, most trains come very frequently and on time most of the times. The landscape could be more interesting though, since it's quite flat. That's the only thing I'm jealous of compared to other countries.
Very exciting! Can't wait to try them 🙂
thats a very cool train make vid were i can see the ns trains doors close please :(
I'm sure there's a video on TH-cam 🤣
I've really wanted to do something like what you do myself, so might I ask: How do you afford to pay for fares, if travelling is all you do?
It's not my full time job ☺️
Thank you, enjoyable video. First time I have seen one of your videos - got the link from one of your friend's uploads. Like your format, no nonsense but very informative. Have now subscribed and I'll begin catching up on you previous uploads.
Most of all thank you for not pretending to be a TV presenter. I get really irritated by travel vloggers that spend more time filling the picture with their faces than focussing on the travel experience - particularly when the worst offenders (PL) are blessed with less than decent facial aesthetics and vocal content that manages to come across as patronising in tone but often ignorant in content.
Back to your video. I have travelled a fair bit on NS services in the past. Like you I find NS to be punctual efficient & good value for money, but I do think the train interiors are a bit spartan looking. One thing I have to disagree with you though is that rainbow effect décor! It's hideous man, but hey wouldn't it be a dull world if we all agreed about everything?
Keep up the good work and I hope to be watching your content for a long time to come.
Thanks man, it's comments like yours that make it all worthwhile👌🏻😁 ps. I 100% agree about PL 🤭
how long does it stop for each station ? for example, on the way back to Amsterdam, does the same train stop at Brussels central? and how long does it stop there? thanks.
It really varies. If everything is running to time normally only 1 or 2 minutes tho
Did you do any transfer to another train in Anwerp? Or you just continue all the way to Brussels?
I went all the way to Brussels as I was heading to the south of France on a TGV 😊
Hi does the amsterdam centraal station allows you to get in with the QR code of your ticket bought online?
Yes!
What is the cost from Amsterdam to Brussels round trip? I want to visit both countries in January. Do I purchase the tickets in advance or can I purchase it on the day I take the train?
Check out the NS website, as the prices may have changed since filming.
Hello! In this route there was a stop in Brussels airport- Zaveteem? I need to know. please
It doesn't, but you can connect from Zuid easily
@@NonstopEurotrip Rubbish. This IC does call at Brussels Airport. I even wonder why you failed to mention in it in this report (you mentioned Schiphol, so why not Zaventem?).
Hey sir! Need to know when did you go through the passport control? Thanks
If you watched the video, you'd know.
Hey, was the €24.50 price the one without discount? It looks like it's the (SNCF) FIP price, and the general public one is €50. It might be the SNCF inflating prices tho.
Yes, €24.50 was the advanced ticket price
In this case it is not ICD. This is BeNeLux train. ICD riding between rotterdam, amsterdam and den haag. With introducing new ICNG these coaches are started to be phased out. Already 19 ICRm coaches are sold if I'm not mistaken to Poland
As you can see in the video, this train is marketed as ICD
They’re being replaced by the ICGN’s im pretty sure, they should go 40Km/h faster but not as fast as the Fyra’s
They go a lot faster than the Fyra's on that route now as they don't exist there lol 😂
Thanks for this trip but why did you altogether skip the fact that this IC train also calls at Brussels Airport station? You mentioned only Schiphol station but it's precisely an interesting fact that this service connects the airports of both capitals: a great incentive to bring air travellers to their plane by train rather than by car (especially when you know how many Dutch people fly from BRU and how many Belgians fly from AMS). It's a great move in terms of intermodality and was definitely worth mentioning.
Thanks for the information
Honestly i do find the lack of power sockets quite strange. I did find that dutch trains run on 1.5 kv. This is relatively low. Swiss and german trains run on 15 kv for example. The low voltage is due to the dutch railways switching to electric trains relatively early. (1920’s). There are working on changing to 3kv, as this would reduce power losses.
That's good then!⚡
This line is electrified at 25kv between Schiphol and Antwerpen. 1.5 kv catenary was only present in the metropolitan areas such as Amsterdam and Rotterdam.
I realise i'm a bit late to answer this, but while it's true that the Dutch domestic network is electrified with 1500 volt DC power, these Intercity Direct trains run on the high-speed Schiphol Airport - Antwerp line which is electrified with 25kv AC. these trains switch between 1500 volts DC in Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and Breda and 25Kv AC on the high-speed line.
1500 volts DC is also not the reason that these trains don't have power sockets. Recent domestic Dutch rolling stock has power outlets. The real reason that those trains don't have any power sockets is because the carriages used for the Intercity Direct services come from the 1980s, when power sockets weren't relevant yet.
They also haven't been retrofitted with power sockets because these trains are due to be replaced by new Alstom Coradia Stream rolling stock (named ICNG on the Dutch network) next year. Those ICNG trains will be capable of 200km/h and have power sockets in both first and second class.
@@kaelon9170 i see, well i guess i gotta get my ass on one of those trains before they get replaced
@@Dekko-chan Then you should be getting onto one before December. NS wants to phase out the current TRAXX+ICR combos and replace them with the new ICNG stock at the start of the 2023 schedule, which starts in December 2022.
Can you please mention the date of travelling in coming videos
It's in the description of every video.
@@NonstopEurotrip thank you
Is there a rack for big luggage to store?
Yes!
which site did you buy your tickets from
At the station
The loc is cleared for 220 km/h the coaches are limited to 160
And the line 200?
@@NonstopEurotrip HSL Zuid Line from Schiphol to Anvers is 300 km/h.
@@alaindumas1824 not the HSL...
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Thanks 👍🏻
A heard a lot of the announcemens in he train in French. Why???? It,s a train in between the Netherlands and Belgium. So they announce everything in Dutch and French and I beliee also in English. Belgium has three offiial languages; Nettherlands, French and German. German only in a part in the eas neat the border of Germany, Netherlands in the North of Belgium until a line SOUTH of Brussels. In he Brussels region the official languages are Netherlands and French. But originally Brussel was a Flemish, Netherlands speaking town. Keep that in mind.
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09:08 The compartments are for people they will travel in Silece,
Silence is good ☺️
dutch's are big and loud.
do we have to buy the tickets in advance? thank u
No. They are always the same price
@@NonstopEurotrip thank u subbing now 🥰😝🤘
Did it have a Wifi connection available?
Nope
Which country are you from man
UK 🇬🇧
anyone knows, is there vaccination control on the border during the trip?
There wasn't when this was filmed last year. May be different now, but of so, it will probably be lifted soon
@@NonstopEurotrip A few years ago, when I was traveling by train from Budapest to Vienna, there was a passport control at the border by the Austrian police. Was there any control on the border between the Netherlands and Belgium?
There is no passport control anywhere in the Schengen zone, this also includes between Austria and Hungary now.
@@NonstopEurotrip thank you
does the machine accept cash and debit card?
Most are card only iirc
@@NonstopEurotrip Card only is illegal in the eurozone. Cash should be accepted everywhere in the eurozone: it's EU legislation.
Do they need covid test or plf
It depends on the regulations at the time of the trip.
En slaan we de Mooiste stad van zuiden, Breda gewoon over.
Nee hoor: 12:01
For an international service I find it appaling that they don't have power sockets in 2nd class. I know they will be getting new trains in the next couple of years. But come on, for a train service between 2 major capitals...
I agree, they did try and get new trains before but that didn't work out either 🤣
These trains are 40 years old, they're not sufficiently powered to have power sockets throughout the train because 40 years ago they didn't deem that necessary. Their maximum speed is also only 160 km/h even though the locs and the railway line are capable of higher speeds, but 40 years ago there weren't any high speed railways in the Netherlands. They're also the only Intercity trains still in service that don't offer WiFi. As others have already written, these trains are basically only operating on this line as an "emergency" solution because the earlier ordered AnsaldoBreda V250 trains had major issues, forcing NS to place a new order for new trains, which will enter service this year. In total these trains have operated the Intercity Direct service to Brussels less than ten years.
And the new ICNG-trains have power sockets in 2nd class too. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NS_Intercity_Nieuwe_Generatie
@@puikepuck I fully understand that indeed these trains were put in as an emergency after the Fyra scandal. But it’s not too complicated to retrofit some power sockets.
SNCF has done this with its fleet of Corail carriages. And those are also 40 years old.
Wifi is less important, but having taken these trains with very little battery left, a power socket shouldn’t be too much to ask for.
@@yannickkeall8020 You don't "just" add some power outlets near every seat. The whole electrical installation in those trains would have to be redesigned to provide enough power for all those outlets. For trains that weren't meant to be in service for very long, this was apparently found too costly, and honestly I understand that. The 1st class seats have power, it happened to me more than once that if I showed my empty phone battery to the conductor of that train, (s)he would let me use 1st class for an hour or so to charge my phone.
Why not take the Thalys if you want travel from Amsterdam to Brussels? This is baffling to say the least.
It would be quite hard to review this train from a different train 😉
That is true but once you've seen the different trains, like sprinters and the like, the network stays the same. And you said it yourself, the seats, apart from colour and width, are practically the same. 😉
@@Paul_C I could say the same about a Thalys and a TGV 😂
@@NonstopEurotrip but that is one of the reasons to standardise. It drives down cost, easier replacement of whatever part breaks. It is the same with safety, integration of systems across Europe will become in the near future.
Thalys is a terrible rip-off scheme. If you want fair prices, you have to book weeks, if not months, ahead and then you have to set the very train you want to travel on, with no possibility to change (unless you want to pay an arm and a leg for a flexible ticket). And, even so, they have very limited quotas for this kind of fair-princed tickets. For short Thalys is a rip-off scheme. As they run only 4 or 5 pairs of trains a day between Brussels-Antwerp-Amsterdam, it's way better to take this regular IC, which offers one train an hour: you have much more choice and flexibility.
2h 52 to get 125 miles?
Speed isn't everything 😅
Amsterdam Centraal to Bruxelles Midi is 214 km (133 miles) but this train left the mainline to serve Breda and Brussels airport, a 142 miles run.
these carraige's are just intercity carraige's, The NS just bought a new train model which will become a new intercity train and will drive as a high speed train on this line, the model is still being tested and must be made. we currently only have 1 model currently within the netherlands
you can view it at this video th-cam.com/video/NbaaNEn43K4/w-d-xo.html
skip to 1:46 to get a nice view of it
I can't wait to try the new trains! 😁
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@@NonstopEurotrip ich wünsche das die ns Bombardier dostos 97 oder dostos 03 hätte.
Amsterdam is the capital of Holland now?
Who mentioned Holland?
@@NonstopEurotrip You state at the end that the train runs between two capitals. Yes, Brussels is the capital of Belgium but is Amsterdam the capital of Holland? I thought The Hague was.
@@erik_griswold It´s neither.
Amsterdam: Capital of the Netherlands (since 1814)
The Hague: Seat of goverment, Provincial capital of South Holland.
Haarlem: Provincial capital of North-Holland (which contains Amsterdam)
@@erik_griswold Holland is not a country. The Hague is the capital of the province of South Holland and the seat of government for The Netherlands, whereas Amsterdam is the official capital city of The Netherlands 🇳🇱
@@NonstopEurotrip It isn’t? Then why is the tourist office located at holland.com ?
Seriously ? Is that the best from Northern Europe trains ? Just have a look to old French Corail trains as those running on Grand Sud service from Bordeaux to Marseilles. Not as clean as this one but definitely much more comfy... and have a look to some TER services in France juste like Coradia Liner trains from Bordeaux to Nantes... And I must suggest to review some RENFE, FS and CP services to notice how good they are...
There's an Intercités Corail review coming up and lots of Renfe and FS Trenitalia on the channel already ☺️
This is not the best from Northern Europe trains. It is a stop gap solution until the new trains are available. Would have been scrapped long ago otherwise.
Please note that if you find any parts of these trains dirty, it is not because of insufficient cleaning services. It will probably be due to asshats.
Definitely 😂
Ive seen quite often that people put their feet on the seat i front of them
They are allowed to fine like 80 euro for that i think
Nbq
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Хотелось бы побывать в Бельгии и посетить порновечеринку.
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Vind het een oer lelijke en nietszeggende trein, het is net een pak melk op wielen. Sorry NS, had wat beters en smaakvoller verwacht, zeker niet dit. Het zal doeltreffend zijn, maar daar is echt alles mee gezegd.
Dit mat is er alleen maar om het gat tussen de Fyra en de ICNG op te vullen. Daarom hebben ze deze oude rijtuigen gemoderniseerd. Als de Fyra een werkende trein zou zijn geweest, dan hadden deze rijtuigen al op de sloop gelegen
@@Thomas_TdK De Fyra is een werkende trein, Nederland had de pech dat het om een nieuw ontwerp ging met bijbehorende kinderziektes. Alle problemen zijn opgelost en de Fyra rijd zoals een trein behoort te rijden. Ik vind het nog steeds erg jammer dat de Fyra hier niet rijd, het was een mooie trein.