Project 18HoopT is alive! Stock engine 1.8T Big Turbo on Standalone Pt 4
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- We finally have the stock engine MK4 1.8T big turbo car done and up and running on the ECU Master EMU Black ECU. We definitely struggled through some mechanical issues but it's finally time to see how much power a stock engine 1.8t can make.
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I don't see my name o vthe fender ☹
@@boosttapperformance8673 this video was filmed over a few weeks so maybe you were more recent, meaning since that footage. Drop us a message just to be sure you weren't missed. But as of the filming of that it was current to my knowledge.
@@COMotorsports all good no worries keep the content going
@@boosttapperformance8673 I've dug into this further, mind sharing at least your first or last name so I can figure out what's up.
If this engine grenades I’d love to see a motor with just maxxspeeding rods connecting rods and nothing else because I’ve wondered if you drop a set of those in a 1.8 if you can make good power or if you need pistons and head work etc like most people do. I’d also just like to see how the cheap rods hold up on there
I would go with another stock 1.8t and just drop some cheap rod in it! You could also add some better headbolts depending on how the first motor will blow up. I really like your channel guys, nice job!!! I'm a 1.8t owner and lover since 2009 ;)
Much appreciated.
Stock, we know it'll make good power with rods. A less aggressive tune down low should yield good numbers in the top end or be a blast to watch go boom!
Keep the block stock guys. Thanks for all the enjoyable content :)
Appreciate the comments. 👍
@@COMotorsports Maxspeedingrods H Beams are $200 lmao..
@@JACKOFALLFATES we're aware. 👍
Excited about this build…keep going I wanna see how much you can get out of it 💯👍
Definitely should put another stock 1.8t in
I'm with ya, we'll see what happens I guess.
Another stock please :) then will be interesting to see is there a difference between good and bad stock engine :) there's no need to build forged engine, you proved that you know that, multiple times :)
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@@COMotorsports we all wanna see u push a stock to the max
*Hope you read this* I am sitting on the last 04' Passat GL Wagon which has the 1.8T, 5-Speed Manual, Four Motion, shadow blue outside and anthracite interior on the inside. This car has spent most of it's life running at 12lbs of boost. The engine is still solid without burning oil or anything. Quieter than my mother's 2014 Fiesta Titanium. I am hoping you will continue and see how she does within reason. Living in Wisconsin I have her garaged and waiting 4 spring to add a front mount intercooler to it. (No worries I have a welder so no silicone adapter crap where it doesn't need to flex) lol Everything is still original and still solid at 228k. Owned prior by my X-Father N Law who is a salesman for the Toyota Dealership in Madison he had never missed a oil change on her so I'm super interested in seeing what can be possible. Please continue because I would like to keep my, "Granny Sleeper" running as spunky as I can for as long as I can so I don't have to Dr. Frankenstein the beast just yet... Thanks 2 all that makes these vids possible.
Cool deal! If the long block turns into a boat anchor I'd say chuck another stocker at it and see what's up. Congratulations on the new subs fellas.👍😁
Much appreciated. I'm feeling what you're saying.
Keep it 1.8t, that's primarily why I'm watching, to see you mod this engine!!
It's definitely staying 18t.
Replace with fresher stock engine then immediately crank it up to where the older engine failed. Want to see if it makes a difference at the same boost.
If it blows up, do maxspeeding rods and stainless exhaust valves and shoot for 600 at the crank (with AEB pistons). Awesome content as always fellas! Love (but no tossing off Clayton 😂) from the UK!
Sweet deal guys! Can’t wait to see her launch a rod out the block!
Happy to have my name on her fender :)
We appreciate the support, the hours wasted alone far exceeds this making any sense to do. :)
Listening to you two bantering to each other while I worked on my own hooptie was great. My vote, keep going with the stock long block 1.8t and see what one will do.
I'm with you. 👍
Happy New Year!! Dont change the motor, it ain't worth it!!
I would like to see the same setup but with a fresher stock 1.8t but I'd settle with a rod upgrade since most 1.8 guys pretty much know what a stock engine can do. IMO of course
We're well aware of what a rod motor will do, there's plenty on our channel.
If it blows prematurely put another stock 1.8t in and send it!
Personally wouild love to see "Rage Dyno" become a continual series with other models/engines. maybe even do a budget build/oem+ 1.8t build (aeb head/rod and pistons)
Rage dynoing is expensive. Lol
Side note, I just realized who I and replied too. Drop your car off I'll rage dyno that, it would be well deserved. Lol
@@COMotorsports I do have a spare motor 🤔....... maybe
Ohhhh looking forward to the dyno run 👌
me too, likely hours of problems ahead.... or maybe one and done. lol
Go with another stock boiii. I’ve always been a mk4 kid and dig this budget build series A LOT! 😂
Appreciate you following along.
Appreciate you following along.
Co Motorsports Most beloved tool of the year 2021………. The Reciprocating saw 🎊
It's always at arm's reach. 🙂
All the best for the New Year from OZ . IF the motor goes , throw a W8 in it 😁
Nicely done!....my a4 "stock 058 block with aeb head" is on trestles right now plumbing up a gt2867, so cant wait for you guys to help me detirmine a safe threshold to aim for 😁.. I think this car is going to supprise everyone and stick around for a while. Would like to see things happen in the following order... Grenade the engine, then start making the necessary supporting internal mods to keep up with the power output.
Please offer some advice on fueling reguirements, hard to find "off the shelf" replacement injectors this side
We can provide everything needed to meet your goals. 300whp should be your goal, and on that turbo that's about all you'll see on prump gas anyways.
Keep blowing up stock awps
PRO TIP: USE A CHAINSAW ON THE BUMPER FOR A FASTER CLEANER CUT NEXT TIME
Or a hungry dog😂😂😂
i love these kinds of builds but with some good rods and pistons, studs and headgasket super sleeper
Another stock engine but with upgraded rods with stock pistons as most of us will probably be at this stage, would be good to see what the stock pistons can hold. Loving the content 😎
Happy new year everyone 🥳
Thanks you too. However there's a bunch of those on our channel already.
Cheap China rods - use the maxspeeding ones as they are cheap, would like to see what they will hold 👍🏻
Keep it stock, it will be a fun experiment.
Damn, that sound
Another 1.8t, keep the stock rods and see how long they can last with that big turbo, they might be last a surprising amount of time with the softer torque curve, and low back pressure of the large turbo
And put some fart spray on the interior to improve it's smell.
If the current engine bends a rod I’d be interested to see another stock 1.8t or two just to see how much luck plays into it!
if you bent a rod its because you are flooding the cylinder, it doesnt bend when you make power. it explodes. you lost all parts, dont be stupid
@@JACKOFALLFATES flooded cylinder is one way to bend a rod, detonation and over revving is another. He’d be dropping a whole new stock engine in, doesn’t matter if you blow a hole in the block. Don’t be stupid.
@@noahmitchell5814 yeah and the same thing will happen but differently. Uncontrolled test. Stupid.
@@JACKOFALLFATES not sure if you understand, but that’s the literal point of the project…
I’m new to your channel, awesome videos!!! This question I have for you guys has to do with swaps. Im just about to swap a 1.8t into my MK1 Golf. Have you guys used the MK1 Eurowise kit for this swap in the past? Just looking to see if it’s worth it?
Keep up the great videos.
Welcome. You can see an unboxing of mk1 Eurowise stuff we used on a 3.2 swapped MK1 caddy. I understand you're doing a 1.8t but you can get an idea of the quality of stuff.
@@COMotorsports Thanks a lot. I will check that out.
Stock again maybe show us how to install a rod set? I'm curious what mine will hold stock haha! Good luck Fellas and Happy New Year
Shoot for 3-320 as that's a realistic goal for a regular setup with stock rods.
put the spare tire back and bungee strap the gas cell to the spare :D
2 engine is a good idea i think to see if it s going to make the same
i would like you guys to show how you would build a motor after you break the one thats in there and then see how much more you can make
That Sawzall usage reminds me of the Stupidtuner TV episodes we talked about... yikes. Needs more speed holes.
If this engin blow up, use another stock 1.8t 🙂, I want to see how far I can go with mine 😁
Even stock, this won't be your average stock setup. It would be trash on the road I suspect... but time will tell. :)
Yeah I want to see how far a stock motor can go
if it kicks the bucket do fully built 1.8t and try to get as close possible to them 4 digits
If it pops then maybe just beef up the part that let's go and push it again 🤷
Turbo 2.0L to see how little power they make :)
See if you can find a 1.8t with 20mm wrist pins and see if it makes a difference. Lots of anecdotal stuff on vortex used to say the 20mm was stronger than the 19mm out of the early 2000s TTs.
The issue is the pins arent the problem. It's the rods themselves. So IMO it makes no difference. The rods were slightly different in some but still junk.
Replace with stock engine please then maybe show how superior the stock ABA bottom end is with 1.8t cylinder head. Can we get a compression reading on current set-up? I think you will get near 314 whp and then bend rods. 🤞 Thank you guys and happy new year!
The ABA are no better, the weak point is are the rods.
Healthier stock 1.8t and giver the onions!!
Mk4 rules, I love this project and u guys r awesome making sarcastic jokes 😆, If the engine blows I would stick to put a healthier stock engine
Watch our last video. :)
Love the project! Can I have the taillights once it explodes?
If this engine grenades I’d love to see a motor with just maxxspeeding rods connecting rods and nothing else because I’ve wondered if you drop a set of those in a 1.8 if you can make good power or if you need pistons and head work etc like most people do. I’d also just like to see how the cheap rods hold up on there
Another stock one I all ways wanted to know how much you can push a stock engine.
A healthy stock motor should be the replacement for sure. We can’t forget the reason for this experiment.
Stock for sure
07k swap it!
Whoop hoop tee it's alive
Tin snips are your friend! Don't lose a finger on THIS project! If it's junk, see what it makes on 3 cylinders 😜
Not a bad idea. :)
We gotta have Clayton unbox parts more often 😭
We can make that happen. 🙂
I say push this one grenades prematurely, put in a lower mileage 1.8t and see if it can make more then 300 whp with stock rods
Go with another stock 1.8t without opening up the engine. The whole idea was to see the capability of those stock engine components paired with the standalone. Control the torque and see what the stock engine can do!
I'm with ya.
Happy New Year!!! Drop a healthier stock 1.8t block and full send 👍🏽
Well I have a tired 1.8T in my A4. So if that tired 1.8 blows up then we'll know. Personally I think some cheap rods would be a good idea if you don't put a hole in the block. Maxspeedingrods has them for like $250-$300 USD, I bought them, just haven't had the chance to tear mine apart yet. I can't wait to see what this thing does. Also (hopefully you see this) would the ECU Masters wire you guys have work on an AWM? Isn't it very similar to AWP? I need something better than Eurodyne!
We can make it work. Also side note weve done plenty of these with upgraded rods so it's nothing new there.
@@COMotorsports definitely a future plan. Good to know...
Def just yeet another stock long block in #500 or bust
Keep stock engine for the next time. If the it blows again then build it the third time
Put a stock engine in it!
If it does blow throw in another stock healthier 1.8T Motor, I think so many of us are keen to see how far this goes on stock motor
everyone must be stupid, doesnt go very far.... Stock rods will do 320 ft lbs, AEB rods do 360 ft lbs, and thats on E85.... This thing is gonna shred the rods instantly. STUPID
@@JACKOFALLFATES stupid yes, but entertainly stupid... and we all here for that
@@dariusgodden2392 not one bit. If you want to be enlightened you watch Banks power "How to destroy a duramax" Where actual science and logic get used... along with instrumentation. This guy is just gonna melt a piston if he loses fuel from no swirl pot. that or just blow the mains off. It's not rocket science when you just blow up metal... it's STUPID
This might be a dumb question, but when going with a standalone ecu, is it possible to retain the original cluster and gauges? or is something different required?
It works fine.
I would stick with the stock block idea and go for max power, then when that dies see what can be done with upgraded parts, or just go completely nuts and find an old viper and swap in a v10... not really lol
with boost control, I KNOW that 600whp is capable..but fuel quality matters there.
You know? Send me the details.
Heck yes!
I think put another healthy stock motor!
I just love the zero regard for anything related to that car 😂 I’m shocked it didn’t end up at the Kenny U Pull up in your neck of the woods
In regards to if the engine pops. Maybe you guys have seen the dude running an “unequal length manifold” making 500hp on a stock bottom end.
But that would be pretty neat to see you guys do that, should that glorious 1.8t turn into part number confetti. Just an idea, cause unlike the rest of the euro community. You guys definitely have a clue, and don’t seek to m0oNt0oN tWoStEp everything…yeah I said what I said 😂
I have seen who you are talking about. Do share.
I love Clayton’s optimism about the longevity of that 1.8t 😂
But anyways. What I’m saying is. When the 1.8 hoop-t’s engine reaches its demise. Acquire “cleaner” motor. Unequal length manifold. And let Dave do his mad scientist thing in tuning it, to see if the un equal length manifold is fact or cap 🤠
I’d love to see you guys do it, because the info on the whole un equal length thing is spotty.
I’d say throw in another stock motor or it’d be cool to see how far a set of maxspeedingrods rods would go in a 1.8
Watch the recent video. Lol
All in favor of stock build click like 👍🏾
Rock a stock till she blows very interested in seeing factory engine power. Previous vw tech and didn't see too many blown 1.8s except Passat lol
We'll see what we can do. Lol
Another stock 1.8t but replace the oil pick up tube both mine were pretty bad lol
Already been replaced. :)
Stock 1.8t or 2.0t :>
i think a VR6 with 2 G60 superchargers on it.
I wonder how much would It cost to do a rod,piston, and valves on a 2021 GLI at CO motorsports
Email us
Definitely put drop in rods in the next motor
The issue is we've done plenty of upgraded rod motors. 🤔
I'd go with rule of 3. Blow up 3 and then you have a good sampling for your experiment.
We at least have a good sampling from the past 20 years. :)
If it grenades early, tho It doesn't look/sound (no f-ing clue) like it will, keep it stock, and simple. Also, dryer vent cover, in the hood, over the exh. Wink wink nudge nudge.
like tractor flap you mean?
@@COMotorsports yes
My current build is a stock block ported head k04 turbo I just need to tune it . I want to see how much power it makes without new rods
K04 whomp whomp.
That secondary air pump at the dealer is 900$ 😬
IE rods after
K SERIES!!!!
what do to with the engine if it blows? stroke it 2.0, put some IE pistons and rods in there, if you guys won't do it, I'll do it :D
*5 years later*
Still working on that stroked 1.8t engine guys. :(
Lol, we've done all that stuff already though.
Honest question, would the Front mount Intercoolee fit with an R32 front Bumber?
Anything good the bumper and rebar need to be modified.
@@COMotorsports meh, ok anyways thanks for the replie :) i say the block throws a Rod at 430 ^^
@@patriklenck1735 it can be done well if you take your time and fab properly. The r32 on our channel has a good size IC on it and we still have all the stock grills in the bumper as well. You'd never know there was an IC and piping under there.
Is the aww and awp the same cylinder head my timing belt broke so I am wondering 🤔
It's all basically the same, even the ones that are different still work.
Thank you so much can u remote tune it I'm from USA florida
@@ricardojaramillojr5071 yeah depending on setup for sure.
Put a 1.9 TDI and make some power with stock tdi
A stock 1.8t already makes more power than a 1.9TDI.. sounds like a step in the wrong direction. :)
@@COMotorsports just want to see what could be done to a 1.9TDI engine to make it faster
@@nojussmolinskas9037 swap a 18t in it. 😉
@@COMotorsports i will probably have to do it 😆😅
Try another stock motor
I thought it was "I ate hoopty"
That makes less sense. Lol
Ecu master software???? Where can I get some?
Link in description
@@COMotorsports this is one of tje main reasons ive been rocking with you guys for a minute, always with the education....thank you all and hny's and a healthy blah blah blah. Cheers
Where can I take my car 14 golf turbo I need tune
Us of course.
Why not use the stock fuel lines and fuel tank
Ethanol requires way more fuel. Also the stock filter, fuel tank potentially is full of junk and since I was putting a $1000 set of injectors in there I didn't really want to take that chance. So it was a combination of things.
Turbo VR6
Hey are you guys Canadian ????
Yes sir
@@COMotorsports Love to see it Toronto ????? Cause I’m picking up a mk4 this weekend would love to get some pointers maybe even some help from you guys
@@daguysss9594 no East Coast.
Stock again, Some will hold 250ft lbs some will hold 400+ completely stock
What engine code is this?
AWP
I vote "after" it grenades, do a stupid sky is the limit, most expensive internals and everything but leave the car/body alone.
If it grenades right away put a vr6 in and do the same thing
2.slow with as much nitrous as you can find 😁
Drop in a motors with some cheap Chinese forged rods n pistons and see how far it goes
Cry once or cry twice. Spend the money in the beginning, cry once. Go cheap, cry twice.
My most common saying is, "buy nice, or buy twice".
I think we all know that the stock rods are weak an only hold around 350hp let’s see with a set of forged rods what it can make!
We have build on this channel with just rods though.