I have been in both the Taiwanese Army and US Army. I was in the Taiwanese Army as mandatory not voluntary for a year. I can say that the Taiwanese mandatory service sucks and it's a waste of time and tax money. Most people I met there were kids that couldn't even hit targets with their rifles and the training was pathetic. It felt like a really bad summer camp and a serious waste of time. Taiwan's military is better off offering better wages, benefits, and training to attract people into voluntary service to improve morale and combat effectiveness. Also, what's the point of going to "service" for 4 months. The 4 month service idea is a completely waste of tax money. You have people who can't even do their job properly having been in for 1 year how do you expect people to know what they are doing from 4 months of "training".
Personally, T.B.H.: I think, that: "P.O.C. (People of colour)": should: 1, "Unite together!!"!! And 2ndly; NOT "Join - up to/with/fight for": =ANY_ - "West-ern_ Military!!"?? Due to their [very] "History('s); of racism/prejudice and "Imperialism"" etc.!!!! Sorry, this is just my personal view.
Thanks, that was interest to hear more detail & information from someone who has experienced it. After reading it I think I agree, it does sound a waste of both time and money. It must cost a fortune to give everyone the kit & equipment they need. As well as feeding costs, accommodation, bedding, heating, electricity, showers, water and I’m sure there are many more things to add to that short list, which is by no means comprehensive. I can’t imagine you can learn much in four months, particularly when it’s a case of just getting through the mandatory time. As opposed to doing the basics for a career, extending skills, fitness, technical training, techniques etc.
Nice, we need to train everyone to increase efficiency. Not just man but single woman or woman that has children >=18 can also fight in case of war. Its mandatory for both rn in my country Vietnam.
One of the people in the video is Eric Huang. A high ranking member of Taiwans opposition party, not a random street interview. Super big journalistic dishonesty on the part of Asian Boss
The street interviewee might be the problem, or it was a massive coincidence and the interviewee just happened to subscribe to whoever of that certain Eric Huang. The guys managing Asian boss are not that knowledgeable of the people within countries different from theirs after all. As far as I know it's Korea and Japan, for Kei and Steven.
The U.S. did a number of studies about this and why U.S. conscripts and national guardsmen had 79% higher casualty rate in vietnam vs volunteer troops. There were numerous reasons, but they realized that ingrained soldier skills through constant training don't really start kicking in for most people until the 2 year mark. I agree with most of the former soldiers being interviewed that 4 months is a complete waste of time.
Henry Kissinger has been quoted saying, “Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” He is absolutely correct. He should know cos he is a war criminal.
This is the reason why Korea never lowered its conscription service time below 18 months. It takes that time for a soldier to drill and familiarize themselves with tactics and weapons systems. This 18-24 month conscription service is why you have Korean reservists that know how to operate mobile rocket batteries, main battle tanks, spgs, anti tank weapons, and other integral units that volunteer soldiers are in at the same time.
For Taiwan to win a war, make it compulsory for 18 years old male to do national service, minimum 2 yrs else don't waste tax payers money. Also every 6 month must go for in camp training to keep fit and operational ready. Can Taiwanese do it? If can't don't depend on US for assistance in time of war. Forget of Taiwan independence.
Agreed, Singapore has mandatory 2years + 10years (2-4weeks a year). I served as an infantry leader and honestly I don't even feel ready. 4 months is just basic training.
Nope. Nothing to cry for. We have been alerted for 73 years already and I personally served two years before. Extending the time serving in military helps people take more responsibility in our own safety and that's a good thing.
well I know that koreans consider Europe heaven on earth so Austria have military service swiserland has military service men and women greece has military service all Scandinavian countries that are beloved by koreans and considered to be absolutely perfect place to live for everyone men and women hell, the princess of Norway did her military service and she did not complained she did it, think about that uplike soft koreans who cant even except rejection from Samsung Israel everyone has to serve man and women and they dont complain they go there because they love their country unlike koreans who do nothing but complain
@@michaelrenper796 4 months is too short, the base is too weak. repeat trainings will have no effect. i think every country that has conscription the time is over 6 months. 4 months in taiwan is just throwing away money and time. it's close to useless.
@@hullmees666 You may be right. I have no idea how this is organized in Taiwan. I will bring up the example of Switzerland though which has a 4 months basic training with repeats. To a total of 1 year service time.
Can Asian Boss explain why a random street interview would have high-ranking KMT official, Eric Huang 黃裕鈞, interviewed at length here? This, after the big scandal of partisan interviews in Taiwan and demanding directors sift specific viewpoints that are totally not natural?
Asian boss, this looks super sketchy. Did you not know that the interviewer “just happened” to be talking to Eric Huang 黃裕鈞 - or did you choose to conceal the fact from your audience? Now I wonder how the other interviewees were selected.
@@beng1540 yep, anyone seeing this should Google it, as it's true. This information should be pushed to the top. This is literally some of the most corrupt journalism I've ever heard of.
4 months seem a tad short for military service. In Singapore, men 18 and over serves mandatory National Service for 2 full years. They have their Basic Military Training for 2 months before going into their specialised vocation units to continue their service. We also have the Singapore Armed Forces Volunteer Corps where people with no National Service Obligations can opt in to undergo training and to assist in different deployments.
and singaporeans hate it. I know so many richer singaporeans who gave up their citizenship and moved overseas just so their kids didn't waste 2 years of their prime being yelled at
That's 2 years at a moment time is most prescious (brains at their peak and start of their carreers). Not fair if girls don't need to do any kinda service. Those 2 years not working hit the labour market hard and it means 2 year no income. 21st century what a waste of money and time that their is still the need for armies :(.
As a once US Marine 4 months is the period of time it took for us to go through our basic and combat training. You need additional time to train beyond that and learn the customs and practices involved in service. 1 year is still a very short time. On enlistment in US Marines you serve 4 years and 2 additional in a "ready reserve" state in which you can be called up. 4 months is not adequate period of time to be prepared for any combat experience. Pre-deployment training alone was roughly 4 months on top of all other training. Something more like South Korea seems appropriate. Also it sounds like the training itself could use some advancement. No weather delays in the Marines. haha
As a Taiwanese I think the priority of enhancing our country's military would be to improve the quality of the combat training, not prolong the period. No matter it's four months or two years it would still be useless if the soldiers are constantly sweeping the floor, cutting the grass inside (that's what I heard what it's like inside)
As a Singaporean, serving in the military for a good 1yr-2yr is an insurance policy for the nation. You might not and hope not to use it but when the bad times comes, you will be glad you took it. Its important to view this military service as protecting your love ones rather than a waste of time.
Singapore needs more armies for their enemy are from the land border, Taiwan needs to build up more missiles for its invasions are from the ocean and sky.
No man should be owned by their government. Military service should be voluntary, not compulsory. Citizens are too often brainwashed through fear mongering to be obedient sheep. If your nation were to fight a Goliath such as in Ukraine-Russia's case, your best solution is to surrender, find a peaceful resolution. There's no sense in dying to protect your leaders. Properties can still be reclaimed; your life, once lost, is lost forever. Meanwhile, your politicians would escape, be safe and well protected by an allied nation.
The sense I got from most people being interviewed is “Welcome everyone come to fight for us.” Maybe they should work more on not provoke a military conflict first.
As Taiwanese, I think it's seriously stupid that it was shortened to 4 months in the first place. You can't learn anything and there was barely anything. I'm pretty sure there is a lot of money spent on the military every year as well, but how much was embezzled is another question. The DPP is just corrupt as hell. The equipment also is seriously lacking in maintenance. Especially when there is like 1 helicopter or fighter crashing or malfunctioning during take-off or flying like every 3 months, it's totally a joke. Especially when a Black Hawk crashes and kills an important General in the Taiwan military 2 years ago.
@@tainanking What are you talking about? KMT is not even doing that. They just want to use political means and proper ways to reach a peaceful consensus between ROC and PRC. Also, talking about that, go take a look at the 1992 Consenses and study what happened in detail. There won't be all of this tension if DPP didn't go ahead and ruin the whole thing with the talks of independence or fight back against PRC all the time. Granted, KMT at the time didn't really do a great job all the time but it could've been very different if there was no needless flaming for war
both the DPP and KMT haven't been great with funding the military, but a big obstacle is the older generation in the military itself that have a WW2 mindset and stifle reform growth.
Even 2 years is stupid, china can build tons of ships and can scale army recuitment to 50 millions if they are serious , or they only have to fire missiles to all power grids in taiwan.
@@andia968 although that is true, taiwan's army doesn't need to focus on beating china's land forces, it just needs to destroy enough of china's navy/transport ships and the remaining troops that do land. if china fired missiles at taiwan, china's economy would be sanctioned as well ,and it along with the rest of the world would face a massive economic fallout.
As a Singaporean who formerly served in army conscription, I always knew Taiwan also has the same conscription system. But I never knew it is as short as 4 months! Singaporean men have to serve a minimum of 2 years full time and about 10 years "part time" later on...
Oh ok thanks for the info. Interesting how 4 months can create soldiers and I don't even dare to say my 2 years full time + 10 years part time training makes me a pro soldier ...
@@kahhengyeong7947 4 months is way too short. It was carried out under the previous Ma administration to focus funds on professional soldiers and when cross-strait ties were warming. Conscription is not a popular policy when there are no obvious threats, but now it’s very evident that conscription needs to be reimplemented to the full.
I hope the time comes when something like this "mandatory military service" will no longer be a thing 'cause there is no longer a NEED to PROTECT. I know it will never happen in my lifetime, but I'm still hoping that it'll happen someday.
Military service in Chinese mainland is at least two years,but not compulsory.I thought Taiwan as a free and democratic place，It's up to you to decide server or not too.
strange if you think a regime is "free and democratic" because its citizens can "decide to serve or not“ then PRC is actually much more Free and Democratic than Taiwan regime cuz ppl here don't have to waste a 4-months in a bad summer camp
The US government only cares about a long war that will help the arms makers boost their revenues. Like what the Raytheon boss said, the Ukraine war is great news. US may not send troops to Taiwan, but plenty armaments will be sent there to help fight against China till the last Taiwanese. Hope Taiwan uses diplomacy and not be manipulated into fighting a war that will destroy all the progress they have. Talk about peace, not about war. That's what the arms makers want, don't let them have it.
Correction: The US cares about weakening Russia and China after their failing decision to invade other sovereign nations. Look at Russia, they can't even manufacture new aircrafts. Two months passed and 15,000 Russians soldiers died (more casualties than 10 years of war vs Mujahideen) and now they are struggling to hold the east. The war in Ukraine won't last another 3 months because neither Russia or China are militarily prepared like USA is. America is already selling their best navy tech to Taiwan.
I don't think Taiwan is the aggressor in this case. China has been showing their intentions and there is no signs they will stop. Problem is - i see a sense of lack of Taiwanese will to fight, expecting America to help them in conflict. my goodness.
@@realkobett for starters, does Taiwan even want unification in the first place? why not have friendly relations and trade with each other without unification? in that way, both sides would be happy to live their own lives while still having relations with each other. thats a very simple request isnt it?
Paul Huang, a researcher in Taiwan, just finished his 6 day military refresher course, and oh boy, the things he described was that of utter incompetence. They were issued second hand boots, only the "Propaganda units" (his words), that gets photographed by the press gets new boots and gear, of the unit he was in, only 1/3 were even given the chance to fire their weapons at the shooting range, and they only shot a few rounds, their "leader" was a middle aged IT guy that didn't want to be there and can't be bothered to organize training events. Go read it, it was a fascinating twitter thread. On the topic of America "helping", the US never fights war that they deem to have a net loss, even in Ukraine, the US only sent weapons, Russian American trade relations is also minimal. But Taiwan is different, it's an island, there is no way for weapons to be sent in when the island is under a Naval blockade and a No Fly Zone set up. The China US economic relation is also way too important for either side to go all out economic warfare. So the US would most likely only provide intelligence support, and verbal support in the UN. In the case of a Naval blockade, there is no conceivable way for taiwan to last more than 2 weeks, the island's energy and food are all mostly imported. Unlike Ukraine who borders several NATO countries can get a lot of resources, Taiwan cannot.
Regardless what other people say, we will be the one that would be hurt the most should a war take place. From what we learned from Ukraine, I can expect at Japan and US will have their early warning fleet flying and cruising outside of our airspace but provide precise coordinates for our army. The systems these three countries are compatible. It'd be like we have extra pair of eyes helping us making the aim. 23 million people ona an island is a lot and expecting boots on the ground is a little bit too much to expect. We fight for our freedom. It's our home. Yes the compulsory military service experience sucks, but that's also history now. Whenyou really feel the danger is close, no one would dare to relax and not wanting to be better trained. After all, when the bombs fall, Taiwan unlike Ukraine has no neighboring countries to find shelter.
@@ChnesRep中華民國OfTaiwan You can be compatible, but under heavy jamming environment, out of region support is not useful at all. China has the industrial capacity to make more drones than Taiwan has missiles, China has full industrial supply chain, from rare Earth metals to the finished products in weaponry. Taiwan does not. As I said, Taiwan is an island, 2 weeks of no oil and rice import, expect the entire society to fall apart. Taiwan is tiny, interestingly only the size of the Donbas region in Ukraine. Taiwan lacks strategic depth, it lacks the ability to take any attrition. This core problem cannot be solved by "extra pair of eyes" or the millions of conscript their government wants to use.
Mandatory conscription seems like a ploy by Taiwan's politicians. I can't see any benefit militarily, but tbh I don't really see anything Taiwan can do by itself. It could be one of those "It's better to do something however ineffective than doing nothing". Taiwan is way too small and only 100 miles away from Fujian China where the PLA has parked short ranged ballistic missiles. If China actually resolved to act militarily, they can preemptively rain enough SRBMs to decapitate Taiwan's leadership and military assets in the first hours... as well as cause thousands of civilian deaths. China could present a fait accompli at that point. The thing stopping that isn't the US navy or nuclear deterrence (Let's be real, the US isn't risking nuclear war with China over Taiwan), it's the CCP leadership's internal calculus of gains and losses. The latter has always been far too great in the past. I truly think most past Chinese leaders thought that if they took Taiwan by force, they would be ingesting a poisoned fruit. If that calculus ever changes enough though...
The US will intervene. Taiwan produces 92-93% of the worlds microchips. If China rakes Taiwan, they would pretty much own nearly every electronic that uses microchips in the world.
One thing that I am certain is that US will not send their navies at all if war were to happen, just like what happened in Ukraine. Weapons wise would also be hard to send there too because Taiwan is an island, unlike Ukraine having border with Poland etc.
As said, men and women capable of doing certain tasks should join. I don't understand why women don't fight for this right! With this way of thinking that women can't do physical stuff we are just going back... the reality is that women can do everything but they believe they can't.
i love these in taiwan. shows little "group think" so many different perspectives but still cooperative, and thats a healthy culture. gives me hope for asia progress
I'm Taiwanese, and last I heard the mandatory military service was a year long -- which is already quite short. I didn't even know that they reduced it to 4 months though!? What is the point of that?! Also, as I suspected the quality of training seems pathetic...this whole system is one that should do with improvements if not overhaul on all fronts x__x
It's funny to see that a free Taiwan has mandatory military service (like prisoners in my opinion); while in mainland China, most - if not all - soldiers are acually volunteers, because there are too many people that mandatory conscription is totally unnecessary.
Well when you’ve been at peace for a long period of time, the people tend to want to look away from military power. But what they dont know is that theyre weakening their countries defence by doing so.
@@yerri5567 he meant 4 months is a joke. and it is. if it is that short they shouldnt even have it. waste of money and time. the strength of conscription is a huge trained reserve (not bigger active manpower like many seem to think, conscripts arent soldiers they are trainees, only after you have completed the service you turn into a soldier, reserve soldier). you wont learn nothing but the most basic things in 4 months and have done it for too short a time to retain anything you have learnt.
@@hullmees666 I know what youre trying to say, but thats not what the OP meant. The OP meant they should use the word "restore" instead of the word "extend", because it was once 22 months. But as I said, "restore" is not the right word to use since it implies the mandatory service was gone.
Taiwan is the name of the island or the name of that province. The so-called national name of Taiwan people is the Republic of China. The regime ruled China from 1911 to 1949 and once represented the Chinese mainland as the UN permanent member of the United Nations. It's funny that before 90s, they actually emphasized Taiwan is the real China, and China is not Chinese mainland. In fact, in theory, Taiwan and the mainland have not signed an armistice agreement. So now China is still in civil war.
@@lessee_6768 im from russia and we also have military service of 1 year before 2010 it was 2 years the problem is its just a breeding ground for corruption During 2000s Putin was non stop rambling about how by 2012 he will stop these and money to contract army as you can see nothing has changed
I didn't expect them to be so skeptical towards whether the US would intervene (which they repeatedly said they would) and was surprised no one even mentioned nuclear deterrents.
Isn't that KMT international affairs spokesperson Eric Huang (黃裕鈞) in your first interview? I thought these were supposed to be street interviews of random pedestrians -- of course a few videos ago you set up a deep blue youtuber as a 'street interview' so it's no surprise that you'd lie about this again. But why do you keep doing it, when it's so easy to find out? You're not doing real street interviews in Taiwan and you are not unbiased -- you are a KMT propaganda machine.
i have a friend from taiwan. once we talked about the reunion with china mainland, he replied in low voice. 'its only about time'. so if someone said all taiwanese want to be independence, actually it is far from true.
Yes, these foreigners always like to assume that we are going to be independent and oppressed by China. They don't understand the historical background of ROC and PRC at all. We are the real China and only a small group of brainwashed young people feel independent. Most Taiwanese have never sought independence and reunification. We just need peace and to maintain the status quo (of course, if the ROC is the main body for unification, most Taiwanese will still agree)
A veteran (Korea,Vietnam,..Afghan) friend of mine told me once, we (USA) would never win in any of the actions outside of our turf. Because no one can defeat a “volunteer” military, and worse if it’s on their turf. It’s like a street fight, no matter how many times or how hard you hit the opponent. The fighting is going to be decided by whoever is dragged down to the last breath or whoever can last. He said like in ww2, Japan was defeated mostly by China, because China had lasted so long to the point of depleting Japanese military of oil and materials for bullets and other equipments. After 8 years, the Chinese military started to gain momentum. Actually began to defeat Japanese with fewer personnel, equipments and bullets. And when nazi lost, everyone turned to the pacific theater. Japan knew what a disaster it would be for the empire, if Russians landed in Japan. So they gave up on the excuse of atomic bomb.
@chinkens and gardening, 4,000,000 military and 20,000,000 civilian death was the toll on China. Almost 100% was under the nationalist flag, mao was way out there in the northwest caves. Don’t think Japanese ever even sent a plane to bomb them. Or was there a “front”, because how insignificant they were territorially. They rested up, gathered up, prepped up, and once Japan gave up, Russia rounded up weapons and equipments for the communist. After eight years of war, nationalist was weary, as communist was restored and ready. It didn’t take long to chase nationalist to Taiwan. That’s what my friends told me. I thought mao and chiang were shoulder to shoulder till they pointed out where mao was on a map. Well,…
@chinkens and gardening, Forgot to include; us gave nationalist old ww1 equipments (as with Ukraine) which was no match to Japanese’ up to date weapons (zeros and such). I was told after the first year of fighting, China had no airplanes left. And no tanks, no mechanized equipments,… mostly rifles against machine guns, yet they still managed to continue, out lasted and dragged down Japan at the same time. China was like Europe, many different dialects, to the point of not understanding each other at all. Military? More like a hodgepodge of men, and worse, many neighbors held grudges, historically based. It wasn’t until well into the war and finally, an army.
As an Taiwanese reserved army second lieutenant that had been served 1 year. I have to say that most of Taiwanese comment over here are insufficient lack of information. Do not think all Taiwanese milltary strategic policy makers are idots. Whether 4 month training is enough or not, it has to reflect to the arrangement of role on battle filed for these reserved army. From what I know, we will be treated as first frontier, stay in made bunk, engaging the landing team. The point is to trap and hold them off, waiting second front line official army to swipe out. So what the reserved private soldier has to do is shooting, abide and understand the order, and do some basic gun trouble clearing. This is what 4 months training all about. With increase frequency of refreshing skills once a year shoud be enough. The other misunderstanding thinking is the number of reserved army. You have to think of battle filed depth and capacity of modern war, consider those few place which PLA would land(everyone knows and we all prepared). From the Taiwanese strategic point of view, the landing phase is the final phase of this war. We still plan the final decisive battle on beach, not on the street. If that so, perhaps even 18 months training for reserved army is not enough.
How can the US give their weapons to Taiwan which is an island surrounded by water? Taiwan Strait is a double sword. It's hard to occupy but also hard to supply. Even if China does not use weapons and merely blockade the periphery of the Taiwan Strait, Taiwan's energy will be depleted in a short period of time. China's navy and hypersonic anti-ship missiles now have area denial capabilities. The U.S. military barely has any chance of winning a locally battle without huge loss. So, the US will never deploy their military forces to help Taiwan fight, which will disappoint most of the Taiwanese.
@Chickens and Gardening It depends whether the US attacks Chinese Navy first. If the Chinese battleship is sunk by the US Navy, so will be the US ship. China also has nuclear-armed hypersonic IGBM, not as many as the US owns but enough to turn the US major cities into radioactive dusts, too. Don't overestimate the US power. China cannot defeat the US on the global level but locally just around Taiwan Strait, the US has little chance. Only the you guys would worship the orphan of WWII criminals like Japan. They can do nothing.
chinese navy is a joke compared to the US. air force too. every other country is miles behind in those categories. its not even a competition. Should US deploy they could defend and resupply quite easily. it would cost them though ofc, but the outcome is undeniable.
I watched until 8:40 marks, as a US citizen, I would not defend Taiwan, the response here showed Taiwanese had no real motivation to defend their home land. It’s the reasons why we left Afghanistan.
It's kind of hard to stomach the watch isn't it? It's like a joke to them, these kids. Considering how nationalistic all of their East Asian neighbors are, they're so far the outlier it's hard to make sense of the mentality. Ukrainians they are not.
On the mainland, the minimum military service system is 2 years. Can a soldier who has trained for 4 months resist a soldier who has trained for 2 years?
Mainland has enough people to volunteer, Taiwan doesn't. Mainland has around 3.5 million military personnel (including the armed police force), which is 0.25% of the population. By this percentage, Taiwan can only hold 57k military personnel, which is not enough.
Whether it should be extended, removed or kept the same period wise I have no expertise in judging, but that it is only men who have to serve, which goes for most countries, is stupid. We can't only appeal for gender equalities when it benefits one gender.
They’re in a difficult situation. I was drafted and served two years and if I remember correctly it took about four months to finish the basic and advanced training and then you were assigned to a position and destination. I hope you never have to face a war but if you’re not part of NATO the US may not send troops.
Oh you bet they are not going to send troops. US talked a lot of crap with the Ukrainian nationalists since 2014, promising the US was on their side in the fight against the Russians but as it turned out, they'll fight Russia to the last Ukrainians. As it turned out, Ukraine is now practically owned by the Western banks and institutions and used as a tool to weaken Russia. Don't expect anything different, especially when it concerns Taiwan; that should also already tell you enough of what their plans for Taiwan is regarding China. Their public opinion has already turned even worse in front of the entire world after this whole shenanigans. I do not expect them to push the Taiwan issue any further in the mean time. But who knows what a cornered rat will do. American "democratic" government always do this. Whenever domestic approval turns low they pull some world wide problem off to boost that back at the cost of the world's public opinion. Desperation and collapse of an empire is all it is. Instead of improving themselves to be better, they look to sabotage and drag their rivals beneath them to stay on top. Such a shame.
3:47 this dude thinks 4 months of boredom is worse than having your country invaded. 2 years would be worth the boredom to protect your home and your family. WTH is wrong with people these days? He 'hurt' his leg playing sports. Coward. Depending on the US to defend you is a hope, not a certainty. Besides how do you expect people to die for someone's country if you're not even willing to die for your own? Thankfully there are some other brave and clear headed young people in the video, and overall I think it addresses an important topic so thank you Asian Boss for highlighting Taiwan.
Taiwan should raise the compensation for professional soldiers, provide more dedicated trainings and improve their ability of fighting a war instead of conscripting more amateurs who will contribute little during a modern warfare.
We used to serve two years twenty years ago. If the military can plan the program better I think having all adults go serve for a while is good for all compatriots to have the basic training. After all we have an enemy right in front of us. Those who are really interested to pursue it as a career can always enlist. No conflicts. With China getting more and more aggressive, for us to protect our homeland, we need to do our fair share of safeguarding ourselves.
@@LukSter18998 not currently. They have mostly if not all retired by now. At my times, many of the senior officers are strong KMT supporters. Given our demographics change, I am glad they are all retired. Personally I have done many things I can be proud of and served my country. Although really also much time wasted.
I think before extending it they should increase the quality of their training because from what I've read the training seems totally insufficient if they want to defend themselves against a power such as China.
Talking about Taiwan being a country, Taiwan independence etc but refusing to have practical mandatory military service is shameless, voluntary military service alone will never have the numbers to defend Taiwan from China. Expecting other countries' military to defend Taiwan when Taiwanese yourselves don't support having a mandatory military service to defend your country is shameless. If Taiwan thinks its a country then Taiwan needs to have the ability to defend itself like a country, at least for awhile. Also really over valuing TSMC importance... ASML that makes the machines that TSMC uses is not Taiwanese if TSMC in taiwan is destroyed the technology is not all lost, intel is catching up, TSMC is building factories in USA. So the value of TSMC in Taiwan is fast decreasing. TSMC alone will not be valuable enough for any country to defend Taiwan sacrificing their own citizens and risking greater war in the region, especially when Taiwanese people dont wanna fight for themselves. WW2 british and allies surrendered Singapore to the japanese when they could have still fought but decided to save their own lifes, USA abandoned the Kurds in Syria, Not one foreign Troop is fighting under their coutries' flag in Ukraine, verbal and paper agreements are cheap and will gurantee nothing. When the war breaks out there will be 101 reasons not to help. When will Taiwan and citizens finally learn that no one can defend your country but yourselves.
Very happy about more content from Taiwan! I currently live here and their culture is very diverse and interesting in many ways... including strange military enlistment about which my friends talk as a "summer camp" lol.
Note: According to certain reports from Taiwanese netizens, this video by Asian Boss has included an interview from a high-ranking KMT representative who is posing as a random street-goer. This sort of controversy has already occurred once before in AsianBoss's videos about Taiwan (this is the second time), so this suggests that AsianBoss is biased against Taiwan or is simply fishing for clicks. Either way, it's a dishonest practice.
As a person who served mandatory national service in Singapore, I feel most of the Taiwanese interview attitude are pretty frivolous and self-centered.
It doesn't matter, the number of soldiers in modern warfare is no longer the most important thing. The quality of individual soldiers and weapons and equipment are relatively more important, but after buying so many American weapons, does Taiwan still have enough budget to increase its military strength? Independent individuals can survive even if they are weak as long as they rely on the strong, so Taiwan cannot learn from the experience of South Korea and Japan. From the past to the future, the islanders of Taiwan have never been in control of their own destiny.
Were you asleep for the last 63 days? The war in Ukraine has clearly shown that a large number of motivated and well armed reservist can cause major trouble to an armies advance. Kiev was defended mostly by Ukraine territorial defense. Taiwan has also extended its budget to buy the kind of weapons that gave Russia so much trouble in Ukraine. Including anti-ship missiles, drones etc.
@@ShriekingShadow Putin did bombard Mariupol and that didn't capitulate either. If you seriously think a Chinese government would totally destroy Taiwan to "free it". Well you just gave me a good reason to throw a few nukes on Beijing before they get any other ideas for the rest of the world.
@@michaelrenper796 War has nothing but killings. Emotions and political stances are not useful for observational analysis, these non-objective things will only help one side in the battle to brainwash you. Ukraine is not Afghanistan, not Georgia, not Armenia, Russia is still Russia, but the battlefield still has electricity and network services, artillery positions in the community garden are live broadcast, and American drones are compiling files on Russian soldiers. Bears don't turn into ballerinas by dancing in a china shop.
I am a Chinese mainland and my girlfriend is Taiwanese. She told me that Taiwanese people have completely considered themselves independent. If China starts a war, then Taiwanese will resist the last one. To be honest, I do not agree with her. Because now is the missile age. If China really wants to solve the Taiwan issue, it will only need some missiles to solve it. Unfortunately, the Taiwanese are too naive. And deliver their own destiny to the United States, which will run away at any time，However, there will be many problems after the war. First, there are many Taiwanese in China. Maybe those Taiwanese will establish a Resistance Army in China after the war, which will have a certain impact on China. Second, western countries will not intervene in the war, but will take the opportunity to impose economic sanctions and blockade on
True, but I believe that the vast majority of Chinese will be willing, because we have waited too long. From the patriotic elderly to the patriotic youth, our country's moral will hold us up.
Taiwanese will definitely not fight to the last. That's idealistic thinking. They may think they are independent, but that's a thinly covered veil. They are all Chinese and they know it. It's extremely senseless for them to fight each other only for a 3rd party to benefit. The DPP is massively corrupt and engage in censorship, and they especially censor anything that they're afraid that would support Beijing - down to even books coming from mainland. Couple months ago they defunded and publically humiliated (or for the Western audiences, a more familiar term - cancelled) a skater (Huang Yu, was it?) because she wore mainland's symbol on her sport uniform at an event. It's funny that Westerners don't know this but keep preaching and praising about "freedom" and "democracy" Taiwan when it's just a facade in reality. DPP is just a party that stays in power via fearmongering (and widely rumored fraud even in Taiwan). I'm pretty sure they know this, and even if they didn't, they should now after seeing the US's attitude towards Ukraine. I hope this issue gets resolved as soon as possible rather than let it be as the status quo. Dividing the country up is exactly what the US wants. It did this to Korea, it tried to do this to Vietnam, and it is now trying to do this to China. Baffle me that many Taiwanese hasn't learned at all and still naively fetishizes the US and idealize them, despite living thousands of miles away and never once setting foot in that country.
@@saint8257 Your point of view is not worth reading because you don’t consider the thoughts and feelings of Taiwanese people. It doesn’t matter if they share a lot of culture with the Mainland - they are still different and deserve to be treated as such forever. You seem to think someone getting cancelled on Twitter is something unique to Taiwan, or something not found in Mainland China, when the truth is the complete opposite for both those things.
@@wheresmyeyebrow1608 No, I am saying the blind nationalism built behind the facade that is called "democracy" in Taiwan is absolutely short-sighted. Huang Yu wasn't cancelled on Twitter, she was defunded, berated, and publicly humiliated by the DPP and their practically monopoly on the media, simply for implicitly expressing support towards mainland. Big difference. Also, Taiwan is the one who kept praising itself as a "democracy" and implies it is better than the mainland government, yet engage in similar censorship? It seems to me this nationalism sentiments was built entirely via fear-mongering and propaganda. They are different how, exactly? Like how many northern Chinese are different than the Southern ones? To Hong Kong Chinese? "Feelings" can be irrational, and it seems to be the case here. I'm not even from mainland China. Take a lesson from Vietnam, Korea, and now Ukraine. US doesn't give a crap about any Taiwanese feelings. Only to weaken and de-stabilize China. As well as a cash cow when it cash off on selling Taiwanese arms and weapons. Watch your chip industry doesn't get stolen like how they did to Japan also.
From an outside perspective view, it’s better for Taiwan to reconcile and unite peacefully with China. No need for bloodshed for the eventuality. China will be everything in coming decades
@Yeheng Music yes it is stupid. That was the point. However how would peaceful rejoining be a disaster. It would be a complete opposite if they rejoined under democracy.
@Yeheng Music i meant roc yes. And i meant joining peacefully under democracy would be the the opposite of a disaster. Its impossible ofc, i know that.
@Yeheng Music well said. In short, a unified China under ROC is basically turning all Chinese into western lapdogs, which the PRC is avoiding but sadly those in ROC are too naive to see
I love how the guy in the black shirt said Taiwan wouldn't start war unilaterally, without any evidence. If Taiwan ever had the military advantage, it would have fought the CCP long ago. Yet, the ROC was forced to retreat into this tiny island and now dreaming about independence, since it can't win in a war.
u can Blame Nixon, they have plenty opportunity to independence, well just let China to powerfull to ressist today. still oppose taiwan Independence. US. is the noe who change anything without say anything to those people on Taiwan. here we go
They could have easily defeated the communists before the communists regrouped their forces, but refrained under the conditions of the Marshall Plan, not to mention that the Nationalists did more of the direct fighting compared to the Communists who were more with guerilla warfare, which basically exhausted the Nationalist army and allowed the communists to take over, which kind of isn't fair as they did most of the direct fighting with greater casualties and got pretty much stabbed in the back when they were weak
@@juanandreas97 the blame really lies more on Truman and his Truman doctrine/Marshall plan which while was a pretty helpful plan for nations around the world, led to the collapse of the nationalists forces and rise/recovery of the communist forces, not to mention that if he had given his support during the Korean War, the ROC could have potentially conquered the rest of the Mainland
Mandatory military service for men is necessary for certain countries as a 'just in case' kind of thing. Being 4 months is not quite as bad compared to (for example) South Korea's mandatory military service. It's required for males ages 18 ~ 28 to serve 18 months of military service or face jail time. Honestly, I think having a mandatory service is a bit unnecessary in this day & age. I think it would be more effective to have those service on their own volition. It you want to serve you will be more willing to effectively train and do all you can.
💡Four months of military service is light; especially considering the need of the island of Taiwan to have a knowledge base to draw on in case of national emergency.✅
Taiwan should look at how Finland has done their conscription and military. 6-12 months for mandatory training and supplemental training over the years, with an option for civil service for 12 months. Opening career paths and training in general.
I suppose, they fear China: but I think, that it would be so cool; if: ASIA: "United together and were Proud of, but most of ALL: TRUSTED AND EVEN More so; LOVED: 1 Another!!"!!-Personally.-(M.K.S.).
Taiwan should scrap conscription and replace it with a volunteers only military reserve force. The reserve soldier should be paid and trained better than a space filling conscript who's heart is not in it. After being trained the reservists return every year for refresher training which is paid tax free as incentive to join up. This benefit and a long list of other benefits may entice Taiwanese to sign up for the reserves hapily and voluntarily...
umm, isnt the point of conscription to have a large reserve army? at least it is in my country and every other in the region. service is 8-11 months and you'll be considered to reserve after with refresher trainings and exercises taking place and being mandatory until you reach the age of 60. nobody expects active conscripts (still training) to actually fight. it's delusional to think a 100% professional army is enough to stand against an opponent so much more powerful than oneself. 4 months is too short to learn anything.
@@hullmees666 Yes part of the reason governments have conscription is to have a reserve force. One of the many negatives of conscription is the quality of soldier is very low. So you end up have a sub standard reserve force which can give the military a false sense of security. Many modern professional militaries have reserve forces who are made up of volunteers only. Many countries who have real war experience removed conscription because of the many negatives learned. I could be wrong but my opinion is Taiwan should chose quality over quantity and use volunteers who want to do the job instead of forcing someone to do this very very important job against their will.
@@kianono3209 You are correct but it is possible to fulfil the tasks with volunteers instead of conscripts. It won't be easy and it will cost more for Taiwan but the benefits should outweigh the negatives imo.
@@kingobnoxious the pros are better than cons. Conscription has been removed for only 2 real reasons. Money and ideology. The reserve you are talking about it pretty much nonexistent. Finland wouldnt have even close to the largest war time army in europe without conscription like they have now. Conscription is better. Its a bonus. Its not like there isnt professional army and volunteers at the same time.
@@hoangkimviet8545 Countries like the US have Selective Service which technically could be used to draft men older than 18, but in reality isn’t much more than a formality. You have to sign up for Selective Service to receive federal aid on student loans among other things, but you don’t have any requirements to join the military. The US has a professional volunteer army which most military leaders prefer to mass conscription. Troop quality is substantially greater (especially NCO’s), and more soldiers wouldn’t solve most problems they have. I think there’s also the difference that very few western countries have fear of war within their borders. With NATO’s existence backed by American (and to a lesser extent French and British) nukes, most recognize that conflicts would be suicidal. As a result, the only real threats from other nations come in the form of cyberattacks or other actions short of violence.
In the event of war, do you think the US will help. Just like the US is helping in the Russia/Ukraine conflict; the US is willing to fight China to the very last Taiwanese.
Hmm, that is an interesting take. What do you propose? Leaving Ukraine to fight alone? Going in entirely and starting WW3? Surely the middle, uncomfortable, ground is the only rational one to take.
@@sroberts605 US/NATO has egging Russia on in this conflict for years, just like they're doing with China. The Ukraine coup was in 2014, Victoria Nuland on tape picking the new president. Nancy Pelosi is looking to visit Taiwan, that's a red line for China. Both Ukraine and Taiwan are useful idiots for the US. If/when the war happens, US will not have boots on the ground.
Stop dreaming lmao. The USA is only benefiting themselves in this war. They sweet talked Ukraine into their plan but it backfired and now Russia makes the first move. What do they do? They watch. And they're going to do the same to you people in Taiwan
@@LukSter18998 brainwash works , the textbook in the school was changed since late 1990s and early 2000s, teach people they are Taiwanese and not Chinese . Identity is the first step towards independence
Not true. PRC used to fire one cannon ball every morning to Kinmen just to signal that the civil war was still ongoing. The last cannon ball was fired on Dec. 15, 1979.
Females should be drafted for Nurses/Medical profession. as you can see in a pandemic., the country can also activate the reserve forces to help out the medical services.. Nowadays in the army, female soldiers can serve in the signals battalion, for communication and operate UAV and drones for surveillance.
The video ignores one of the most basic common sense and international law that no country or international organization in the world considers Taiwan to be an independent sovereign state. The international community believes that both the Republic of China (Taiwan) and the People's Republic of China are China， so this is their internal affair, not about invasion， We hope the two sides can solve the problem by themselves peacefully.
When I was younger I thought mandatory military service was horrible, but now I'm a bit older I think it's probably a good thing (as long as it's not too long). Teaches young people discipline, basic weapons usage, etc
yes, as a former conscript (in europe) i can say that the time is not enjoyable, but it is beneficial. to the state (in case of a war) and to the person himself (for the reason you mentioned + and a bond with the guys you served with). also for many it is a huge deal that they get away from their mommies and daddies and learn how to live without their help.
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I have been in both the Taiwanese Army and US Army. I was in the Taiwanese Army as mandatory not voluntary for a year. I can say that the Taiwanese mandatory service sucks and it's a waste of time and tax money. Most people I met there were kids that couldn't even hit targets with their rifles and the training was pathetic. It felt like a really bad summer camp and a serious waste of time. Taiwan's military is better off offering better wages, benefits, and training to attract people into voluntary service to improve morale and combat effectiveness.
Also, what's the point of going to "service" for 4 months. The 4 month service idea is a completely waste of tax money. You have people who can't even do their job properly having been in for 1 year how do you expect people to know what they are doing from 4 months of "training".
Personally, T.B.H.:
I think, that: "P.O.C. (People of colour)": should:
1, "Unite together!!"!!
And 2ndly; NOT "Join -
up to/with/fight for": =ANY_ - "West-ern_ Military!!"??
Due to their [very] "History('s); of racism/prejudice and "Imperialism"" etc.!!!! Sorry, this is just my personal view.
Thanks, that was interest to hear more detail & information from someone who has experienced it.
After reading it I think I agree, it does sound a waste of both time and money. It must cost a fortune to give everyone the kit & equipment they need. As well as feeding costs, accommodation, bedding, heating, electricity, showers, water and I’m sure there are many more things to add to that short list, which is by no means comprehensive.
I can’t imagine you can learn much in four months, particularly when it’s a case of just getting through the mandatory time. As opposed to doing the basics for a career, extending skills, fitness, technical training, techniques etc.
Good to know. What do you think of America's military in comparison?
@@lilacscentedfushias1852 don't believe this dude. He is working for the CCP
@@_jowilliams there are many CCP spies in the Taiwanese army
In Switzerland it’s Mandatory for men, but soon for women.
Nice, we need to train everyone to increase efficiency. Not just man but single woman or woman that has children >=18 can also fight in case of war.
Its mandatory for both rn in my country Vietnam.
Soon?? I haven't heard about that yet..
that's only half of the truth, in Switzerland you have the choice between military service and social service, so different branches are open to you
If something like this happened to women
The femenist will do a genocide of men
Canada : not mandatory for anyone. You join the army if you like. It works well that way.
One of the people in the video is Eric Huang. A high ranking member of Taiwans opposition party, not a random street interview. Super big journalistic dishonesty on the part of Asian Boss
time stamp?
The street interviewee might be the problem, or it was a massive coincidence and the interviewee just happened to subscribe to whoever of that certain Eric Huang.
The guys managing Asian boss are not that knowledgeable of the people within countries different from theirs after all. As far as I know it's Korea and Japan, for Kei and Steven.
The U.S. did a number of studies about this and why U.S. conscripts and national guardsmen had 79% higher casualty rate in vietnam vs volunteer troops. There were numerous reasons, but they realized that ingrained soldier skills through constant training don't really start kicking in for most people until the 2 year mark. I agree with most of the former soldiers being interviewed that 4 months is a complete waste of time.
Henry Kissinger has been quoted saying, “Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”
He is absolutely correct. He should know cos he is a war criminal.
This is the reason why Korea never lowered its conscription service time below 18 months. It takes that time for a soldier to drill and familiarize themselves with tactics and weapons systems. This 18-24 month conscription service is why you have Korean reservists that know how to operate mobile rocket batteries, main battle tanks, spgs, anti tank weapons, and other integral units that volunteer soldiers are in at the same time.
Exactly… even 1yr is not enough time to train a civilian to a soldier.
For Taiwan to win a war, make it compulsory for 18 years old male to do national service, minimum 2 yrs else don't waste tax payers money. Also every 6 month must go for in camp training to keep fit and operational ready. Can Taiwanese do it? If can't don't depend on US for assistance in time of war. Forget of Taiwan independence.
Agreed, Singapore has mandatory 2years + 10years (2-4weeks a year). I served as an infantry leader and honestly I don't even feel ready. 4 months is just basic training.
4 months?! what can you do in a mere 4 months?! (from a guy who serves 30 months mandatory Republic of Korea military)
4个月玩个真人CS很爽
“抗中保台”的那位大哥把自己都逗笑了🤣🤣🤣
他的祖先是从哪里来的
@@zennoix9984 那哥们明显是在嘲讽
终于找到这条评论了
小粉綠的感覺
2:26这个男的说:“因为台湾是一个可能面临军事威胁国家”。要是我在他旁边，一巴掌呼死他。
Taiwanese people: this is so unfair
South Korea citizens: *First time?*
Nope. Nothing to cry for. We have been alerted for 73 years already and I personally served two years before. Extending the time serving in military helps people take more responsibility in our own safety and that's a good thing.
well I know that koreans consider Europe heaven on earth
so
Austria have military service
swiserland has military service men and women
greece has military service
all Scandinavian countries that are beloved by koreans and considered to be absolutely perfect place to live
for everyone men and women
hell, the princess of Norway did her military service and she did not complained she did it, think about that
uplike soft koreans who cant even except rejection from Samsung
Israel everyone has to serve man and women
and they dont complain they go there because they love their country
unlike koreans who do nothing but complain
Singaporeans: Am I a Joke to you ?
@@allenk6373 They have many rewards from doing the service, but Koreans dont. Pls educate urself before you write a shitpost on the internet🙏
@@allenk6373 With NO due respect, people thinking like you is the reason why there are still wars on earth...
Mandatory military duty- North Korea 10 years, Israel 2 years 8 months, South Korea 1 year 6-9 months depending on branch.
2 years in Singapore
4 months in Taiwan,Is this a summer camp?
@@Steven-oq7dx 哈哈確實
4 months seems incredibly short. There is no way you can go from civilian to a professional solider back to civilian in 4 months
In combination with repeater trainings it can build a big reserve army. Works well in Switzerland.
@@michaelrenper796 4 months is too short, the base is too weak. repeat trainings will have no effect. i think every country that has conscription the time is over 6 months. 4 months in taiwan is just throwing away money and time. it's close to useless.
@@hullmees666 You may be right. I have no idea how this is organized in Taiwan. I will bring up the example of Switzerland though which has a 4 months basic training with repeats. To a total of 1 year service time.
Four months is not "too long". In fact it's not nearly enough to make a functioning soldier.
You need between 6 to 12 months at the very least.
Can Asian Boss explain why a random street interview would have high-ranking KMT official, Eric Huang 黃裕鈞, interviewed at length here? This, after the big scandal of partisan interviews in Taiwan and demanding directors sift specific viewpoints that are totally not natural?
Asian boss, this looks super sketchy. Did you not know that the interviewer “just happened” to be talking to Eric Huang 黃裕鈞 - or did you choose to conceal the fact from your audience? Now I wonder how the other interviewees were selected.
Second time they've done this with Taiwan "street interviews".
@@beng1540 yep, anyone seeing this should Google it, as it's true.
This information should be pushed to the top. This is literally some of the most corrupt journalism I've ever heard of.
Which one is he?
I'd also like an explanation.
4 months seem a tad short for military service. In Singapore, men 18 and over serves mandatory National Service for 2 full years. They have their Basic Military Training for 2 months before going into their specialised vocation units to continue their service.
We also have the Singapore Armed Forces Volunteer Corps where people with no National Service Obligations can opt in to undergo training and to assist in different deployments.
Not really. More n more chao keng NS. Too privileged nowsadays that they probably just aurrender or run overseas if sg is invaded.
Mmmmm Singaporean mincemeat
and singaporeans hate it. I know so many richer singaporeans who gave up their citizenship and moved overseas just so their kids didn't waste 2 years of their prime being yelled at
Actually 2 full years only for those who did not pass IPPT requirements pre-enlistment, BMT batch only serve 1 year 10 months
That's 2 years at a moment time is most prescious (brains at their peak and start of their carreers). Not fair if girls don't need to do any kinda service. Those 2 years not working hit the labour market hard and it means 2 year no income. 21st century what a waste of money and time that their is still the need for armies :(.
As a once US Marine 4 months is the period of time it took for us to go through our basic and combat training. You need additional time to train beyond that and learn the customs and practices involved in service. 1 year is still a very short time. On enlistment in US Marines you serve 4 years and 2 additional in a "ready reserve" state in which you can be called up. 4 months is not adequate period of time to be prepared for any combat experience. Pre-deployment training alone was roughly 4 months on top of all other training. Something more like South Korea seems appropriate. Also it sounds like the training itself could use some advancement. No weather delays in the Marines. haha
As a Taiwanese I think the priority of enhancing our country's military would be to improve the quality of the combat training, not prolong the period. No matter it's four months or two years it would still be useless if the soldiers are constantly sweeping the floor, cutting the grass inside (that's what I heard what it's like inside)
你们乖乖呆着不要挑衅，等我们跟美国斗出结果就行了。不然被打也是活该
你们先争取别在游泳池训练时溺死吧，建议多吃莱猪核食
or buy nuclear technology from some nation just like how north korea did and blackmail china
@@wangliao1823 哥怎麼心情不好？家人都埋在火神山了嗎？
@@yyw642 火神山国内已经不用了，中国疫情现在完全自己可控。倒是你应该多投资建些火葬场，毕竟那是你不久后的新家啊
Asian Boss interviews political party official (黃裕鈞) in Taiwan and doesn't disclose that fact
Any sources for that claim?
As a Singaporean, serving in the military for a good 1yr-2yr is an insurance policy for the nation. You might not and hope not to use it but when the bad times comes, you will be glad you took it. Its important to view this military service as protecting your love ones rather than a waste of time.
That‘s reasonable for singapore but not taiwan
Singapore needs more armies for their enemy are from the land border, Taiwan needs to build up more missiles for its invasions are from the ocean and sky.
@@kianono3209 - (Taiwan) - & - (Singapore) - Are - (Both) - (Islands) - 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 - (Your) - (Statement) - Said - (Taiwan) - Needs - (More - Missiles) ? - 😁😁😁😁😁 - (Japan) - Which - was - (Way - Further) - Than - (China) - Had - (Invaded) - (Taiwan) - Before - 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 - Do - You - Think - (Taiwan) - Which - is - (Just) - (161 - Km / 100 - Miles) - (Away) - Could - Be - (Militarily - Defended) - Against - A - (Military - Superpower) - On - (The Mainland) ? - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 - (Japan) - is - (2,163 - Km / 1, 344 - Miles) - Away - Fron - (Taiwan) - 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 - (Okinawa) - is - (500 - Km / 310 - Miles) - (North) - of - (Taiwan) - 🤚🤚🤚🤚🤚 -
PLA can protect Taiwan, that's enough
No man should be owned by their government. Military service should be voluntary, not compulsory.
Citizens are too often brainwashed through fear mongering to be obedient sheep. If your nation were to fight a Goliath such as in Ukraine-Russia's case, your best solution is to surrender, find a peaceful resolution. There's no sense in dying to protect your leaders. Properties can still be reclaimed; your life, once lost, is lost forever.
Meanwhile, your politicians would escape, be safe and well protected by an allied nation.
Wtf 4 months is nothing here in Singapore men above 18 are required to serve for 22-24 months
Yeah but u guys can go home every day right? Is that even an army
@@Seung217 Said a guy with misinformation.
It is also not enough, in Israel for men it is 2 years and 8 months in regular units
Meet the US's expectations? I just know Taiwan is colony of US.
The sense I got from most people being interviewed is “Welcome everyone come to fight for us.” Maybe they should work more on not provoke a military conflict first.
their proud American dad
It lives better than chinese
That was disgusting.
As Taiwanese, I think it's seriously stupid that it was shortened to 4 months in the first place. You can't learn anything and there was barely anything. I'm pretty sure there is a lot of money spent on the military every year as well, but how much was embezzled is another question. The DPP is just corrupt as hell. The equipment also is seriously lacking in maintenance. Especially when there is like 1 helicopter or fighter crashing or malfunctioning during take-off or flying like every 3 months, it's totally a joke. Especially when a Black Hawk crashes and kills an important General in the Taiwan military 2 years ago.
Oh so you would rather have KMT and kiss china's toes?
@@tainanking What are you talking about? KMT is not even doing that. They just want to use political means and proper ways to reach a peaceful consensus between ROC and PRC. Also, talking about that, go take a look at the 1992 Consenses and study what happened in detail. There won't be all of this tension if DPP didn't go ahead and ruin the whole thing with the talks of independence or fight back against PRC all the time. Granted, KMT at the time didn't really do a great job all the time but it could've been very different if there was no needless flaming for war
both the DPP and KMT haven't been great with funding the military, but a big obstacle is the older generation in the military itself that have a WW2 mindset and stifle reform growth.
Even 2 years is stupid, china can build tons of ships and can scale army recuitment to 50 millions if they are serious , or they only have to fire missiles to all power grids in taiwan.
@@andia968 although that is true, taiwan's army doesn't need to focus on beating china's land forces, it just needs to destroy enough of china's navy/transport ships and the remaining troops that do land. if china fired missiles at taiwan, china's economy would be sanctioned as well ,and it along with the rest of the world would face a massive economic fallout.
As a Singaporean who formerly served in army conscription, I always knew Taiwan also has the same conscription system.
But I never knew it is as short as 4 months!
Singaporean men have to serve a minimum of 2 years full time and about 10 years "part time" later on...
It was 2 years and then 10 months and now 4 months.
Oh ok thanks for the info. Interesting how 4 months can create soldiers and I don't even dare to say my 2 years full time + 10 years part time training makes me a pro soldier ...
@@kahhengyeong7947 4 months is way too short. It was carried out under the previous Ma administration to focus funds on professional soldiers and when cross-strait ties were warming. Conscription is not a popular policy when there are no obvious threats, but now it’s very evident that conscription needs to be reimplemented to the full.
There are 160K volunteer soldiers serving at least 4 years in Taiwan, other than 4 months mandatory soldiers.
I did 2.5 years long ago ..........
I hope the time comes when something like this "mandatory military service" will no longer be a thing 'cause there is no longer a NEED to PROTECT. I know it will never happen in my lifetime, but I'm still hoping that it'll happen someday.
Unfortunately it is becoming more and more likely these days.
Military service in Chinese mainland is at least two years,but not compulsory.I thought Taiwan as a free and democratic place，It's up to you to decide server or not too.
strange
if you think a regime is "free and democratic" because its citizens can "decide to serve or not“
then PRC is actually much more Free and Democratic than Taiwan regime cuz ppl here don't have to waste a 4-months in a bad summer camp
4 months mandatory military service is a joke, If the government want to implement it do it right with at least 1 year mandatory service.
There are 4 months of mandatory military service in Swiss.
The US government only cares about a long war that will help the arms makers boost their revenues. Like what the Raytheon boss said, the Ukraine war is great news.
US may not send troops to Taiwan, but plenty armaments will be sent there to help fight against China till the last Taiwanese.
Hope Taiwan uses diplomacy and not be manipulated into fighting a war that will destroy all the progress they have.
Talk about peace, not about war. That's what the arms makers want, don't let them have it.
you need to google how are weapons shipped to Ukraine.
Correction: The US cares about weakening Russia and China after their failing decision to invade other sovereign nations. Look at Russia, they can't even manufacture new aircrafts. Two months passed and 15,000 Russians soldiers died (more casualties than 10 years of war vs Mujahideen) and now they are struggling to hold the east. The war in Ukraine won't last another 3 months because neither Russia or China are militarily prepared like USA is. America is already selling their best navy tech to Taiwan.
I don't think Taiwan is the aggressor in this case. China has been showing their intentions and there is no signs they will stop.
Problem is - i see a sense of lack of Taiwanese will to fight, expecting America to help them in conflict. my goodness.
@@ykst6685 is peaceful unification too aggressive for the world today?
@@realkobett for starters, does Taiwan even want unification in the first place? why not have friendly relations and trade with each other without unification? in that way, both sides would be happy to live their own lives while still having relations with each other. thats a very simple request isnt it?
Great job asian boss.
I would never know how Taiwanese people think about their military related things without this interview.
You still don't. The "interviewee" is the KMT international affairs director.
Paul Huang, a researcher in Taiwan, just finished his 6 day military refresher course, and oh boy, the things he described was that of utter incompetence.
They were issued second hand boots, only the "Propaganda units" (his words), that gets photographed by the press gets new boots and gear, of the unit he was in, only 1/3 were even given the chance to fire their weapons at the shooting range, and they only shot a few rounds, their "leader" was a middle aged IT guy that didn't want to be there and can't be bothered to organize training events.
Go read it, it was a fascinating twitter thread.
On the topic of America "helping", the US never fights war that they deem to have a net loss, even in Ukraine, the US only sent weapons, Russian American trade relations is also minimal.
But Taiwan is different, it's an island, there is no way for weapons to be sent in when the island is under a Naval blockade and a No Fly Zone set up. The China US economic relation is also way too important for either side to go all out economic warfare.
So the US would most likely only provide intelligence support, and verbal support in the UN.
In the case of a Naval blockade, there is no conceivable way for taiwan to last more than 2 weeks, the island's energy and food are all mostly imported. Unlike Ukraine who borders several NATO countries can get a lot of resources, Taiwan cannot.
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@@Carbuncle0168 okay US bot
Regardless what other people say, we will be the one that would be hurt the most should a war take place. From what we learned from Ukraine, I can expect at Japan and US will have their early warning fleet flying and cruising outside of our airspace but provide precise coordinates for our army. The systems these three countries are compatible. It'd be like we have extra pair of eyes helping us making the aim. 23 million people ona an island is a lot and expecting boots on the ground is a little bit too much to expect. We fight for our freedom. It's our home. Yes the compulsory military service experience sucks, but that's also history now. Whenyou really feel the danger is close, no one would dare to relax and not wanting to be better trained. After all, when the bombs fall, Taiwan unlike Ukraine has no neighboring countries to find shelter.
@@ChnesRep中華民國OfTaiwan You can be compatible, but under heavy jamming environment, out of region support is not useful at all. China has the industrial capacity to make more drones than Taiwan has missiles, China has full industrial supply chain, from rare Earth metals to the finished products in weaponry. Taiwan does not.
As I said, Taiwan is an island, 2 weeks of no oil and rice import, expect the entire society to fall apart. Taiwan is tiny, interestingly only the size of the Donbas region in Ukraine.
Taiwan lacks strategic depth, it lacks the ability to take any attrition. This core problem cannot be solved by "extra pair of eyes" or the millions of conscript their government wants to use.
Comments facts: accused of being wumao xDD
Mandatory conscription seems like a ploy by Taiwan's politicians. I can't see any benefit militarily, but tbh I don't really see anything Taiwan can do by itself. It could be one of those "It's better to do something however ineffective than doing nothing".
Taiwan is way too small and only 100 miles away from Fujian China where the PLA has parked short ranged ballistic missiles. If China actually resolved to act militarily, they can preemptively rain enough SRBMs to decapitate Taiwan's leadership and military assets in the first hours... as well as cause thousands of civilian deaths. China could present a fait accompli at that point. The thing stopping that isn't the US navy or nuclear deterrence (Let's be real, the US isn't risking nuclear war with China over Taiwan), it's the CCP leadership's internal calculus of gains and losses. The latter has always been far too great in the past. I truly think most past Chinese leaders thought that if they took Taiwan by force, they would be ingesting a poisoned fruit. If that calculus ever changes enough though...
The US will intervene. Taiwan produces 92-93% of the worlds microchips. If China rakes Taiwan, they would pretty much own nearly every electronic that uses microchips in the world.
Check the news on the war in Ukraine. Your military expertise is a bit outdated.
One thing that I am certain is that US will not send their navies at all if war were to happen, just like what happened in Ukraine. Weapons wise would also be hard to send there too because Taiwan is an island, unlike Ukraine having border with Poland etc.
taiwan already bought weapons like planes from the US
As said, men and women capable of doing certain tasks should join. I don't understand why women don't fight for this right! With this way of thinking that women can't do physical stuff we are just going back... the reality is that women can do everything but they believe they can't.
True
Because the men don’t like being forced to do it either, why would women want to be forced as well?
Asian boss didn't disclose that 0:27 this guy is the KMT (pro-China party) Deputy Director for International Affairs Eric Huang (黃裕鈞)
KMT的人还说台湾作为一个国家是我没想到的，KMT不是要光复大陆吗，宪法里面的中华民国写的清清楚楚，沦陷区十四亿人民等着KMT解救，结果自己就把台湾当成独立国家了，这能入KMT的啊
3:21 I love your attitude! Now you are an infantry and let’s get you to the front line ASAP. Thank you for your service.
明显高级黑
He seems so innocent, though also gives me a psychopath vibe that super into wars and trying to use killing to find some sort of justice and purpose.
I’m quite sure he is sarcastic LMFAO
8:40 this guy is definitely trolling
So fake, everyone can tell
i love these in taiwan. shows little "group think" so many different perspectives but still cooperative, and thats a healthy culture. gives me hope for asia progress
Only in Taiwan I think.
yep, thankfully the sovereign state of Taiwan was able to separate from China and become democratic.
haha, the dude wearing white cap is at full sarcasm, great job😂😂
I thought so at the first place as well, but seeing his later talk I feel like he was meaning it.
It's not sarcasm, he is indeed on service..
@@xueueux Nah I don't buy it
My dad told he spent 2 years in Taiwanese mandatory army. I guess it changed to just 4 months. My dad was born in 1950s so that was a while ago.
My cousin's was 2 years and this was less than a decade ago.
4 years reduced to 2 years in mainland now
I served 3 years in air force, worked at propaganda office. All the paperwork. wasting my life. Age 20 to 23
I'm Taiwanese, and last I heard the mandatory military service was a year long -- which is already quite short. I didn't even know that they reduced it to 4 months though!? What is the point of that?!
Also, as I suspected the quality of training seems pathetic...this whole system is one that should do with improvements if not overhaul on all fronts x__x
mandatory military is unnecessary for Taiwanese, PLA can protect them, that's enough
其实，你们把兵役延长多久都没有用.这就是事实.🤣争取早日和平统一吧.
It's funny to see that a free Taiwan has mandatory military service (like prisoners in my opinion); while in mainland China, most - if not all - soldiers are acually volunteers, because there are too many people that mandatory conscription is totally unnecessary.
As a Taiwanese, I’m pretty sure the guy with white hat is just trolling… lol
He doesn't seem to be trolling based on his friends reaction.
@@TLiu-1b then his friend just as ignorance
@@TLiu-1b He IS trolling.
PS. I am Taiwanese, too.
@@李喬鵬 so are u saying white hat is against mandatory military service?
Just being sarcastic, his tone as he recites some of the slogans are in a joking manner. Totally taking the piss
They should say "restore" the mandatory military service instead of "extend". It used to be 22 months before cutting it down to 4 months in 2013.
Well when you’ve been at peace for a long period of time, the people tend to want to look away from military power. But what they dont know is that theyre weakening their countries defence by doing so.
yukuhana The word "restore" implies the whole mandatory military service is currently not there anymore.
No politician wants to lose their votes by doing this
@@yerri5567 he meant 4 months is a joke. and it is. if it is that short they shouldnt even have it. waste of money and time. the strength of conscription is a huge trained reserve (not bigger active manpower like many seem to think, conscripts arent soldiers they are trainees, only after you have completed the service you turn into a soldier, reserve soldier). you wont learn nothing but the most basic things in 4 months and have done it for too short a time to retain anything you have learnt.
@@hullmees666 I know what youre trying to say, but thats not what the OP meant.
The OP meant they should use the word "restore" instead of the word "extend", because it was once 22 months. But as I said, "restore" is not the right word to use since it implies the mandatory service was gone.
Taiwan is the name of the island or the name of that province. The so-called national name of Taiwan people is the Republic of China. The regime ruled China from 1911 to 1949 and once represented the Chinese mainland as the UN permanent member of the United Nations. It's funny that before 90s, they actually emphasized Taiwan is the real China, and China is not Chinese mainland.
In fact, in theory, Taiwan and the mainland have not signed an armistice agreement. So now China is still in civil war.
Thank you for the brief history lesson that nobody asked for!
You are calling China wrong, it's West Taiwan
Good point, but people learn history from CNN or mass media and think they know it lol
@@lolb4udie Yes ,also called west Korea.
@@andrepoiy1199 Yes，Taiwanese who know this history certainly do not want to let other countries know.
4 months? That's not enough to even prepare for university entrance exams. What do you plan to achieve?
like seriously
they dont have tome to do anything
It sucks to be forced to do things, but survival in the face of adversity, is necessary for you to survive and keep moving forward.
Mandatory is normal for smaller countries because they have small population and lacking of man power to defend their country
@@lessee_6768 im from russia and we also have military service of 1 year
before 2010 it was 2 years
the problem is its just a breeding ground for corruption
During 2000s Putin was non stop rambling about how by 2012 he will stop these and money to contract army
as you can see nothing has changed
@@lessee_6768 😂our country too is small we dont have to do
It's all about the QUALITY rather than quantity.
Funny to hear China Province of Taiwan is training its military to fight against its motherland.... lol
I didn't expect them to be so skeptical towards whether the US would intervene (which they repeatedly said they would) and was surprised no one even mentioned nuclear deterrents.
Taiwan is a peripheral issue to the US, and a core national priority for China. People know how to temper their expectations.
Men and women should both do it.
why?
Isn't that KMT international affairs spokesperson Eric Huang (黃裕鈞) in your first interview? I thought these were supposed to be street interviews of random pedestrians -- of course a few videos ago you set up a deep blue youtuber as a 'street interview' so it's no surprise that you'd lie about this again. But why do you keep doing it, when it's so easy to find out? You're not doing real street interviews in Taiwan and you are not unbiased -- you are a KMT propaganda machine.
gender equality, unless when it's about getting drafted into military. classic.
Taiwanese women are pretty well known for having that same princess complex that the Shanghainese women have.
hahahaha facts
gender equality, unless it's women paying all that tax for keeping men who've committed a crime fed and housed.
lmao yep
i have a friend from taiwan. once we talked about the reunion with china mainland, he replied in low voice. 'its only about time'.
so if someone said all taiwanese want to be independence, actually it is far from true.
there are traitors in every country
Yes, these foreigners always like to assume that we are going to be independent and oppressed by China. They don't understand the historical background of ROC and PRC at all.
We are the real China and only a small group of brainwashed young people feel independent.
Most Taiwanese have never sought independence and reunification. We just need peace and to maintain the status quo (of course, if the ROC is the main body for unification, most Taiwanese will still agree)
@@kageyamareijikun the ROC's constitution has always been to unify. The guy is not a traitor but a nationalist. The real traitors are the DPP
A veteran (Korea,Vietnam,..Afghan) friend of mine told me once, we (USA) would never win in any of the actions outside of our turf. Because no one can defeat a “volunteer” military, and worse if it’s on their turf. It’s like a street fight, no matter how many times or how hard you hit the opponent. The fighting is going to be decided by whoever is dragged down to the last breath or whoever can last.
He said like in ww2, Japan was defeated mostly by China, because China had lasted so long to the point of depleting Japanese military of oil and materials for bullets and other equipments. After 8 years, the Chinese military started to gain momentum. Actually began to defeat Japanese with fewer personnel, equipments and bullets. And when nazi lost, everyone turned to the pacific theater. Japan knew what a disaster it would be for the empire, if Russians landed in Japan. So they gave up on the excuse of atomic bomb.
a former conscript answering the call to serve is "volunteer" military, but they can join the fight in weeks not months.
@chinkens and gardening,
4,000,000 military and 20,000,000 civilian death was the toll on China. Almost 100% was under the nationalist flag, mao was way out there in the northwest caves. Don’t think Japanese ever even sent a plane to bomb them. Or was there a “front”, because how insignificant they were territorially. They rested up, gathered up, prepped up, and once Japan gave up, Russia rounded up weapons and equipments for the communist. After eight years of war, nationalist was weary, as communist was restored and ready. It didn’t take long to chase nationalist to Taiwan.
That’s what my friends told me. I thought mao and chiang were shoulder to shoulder till they pointed out where mao was on a map. Well,…
@chinkens and gardening,
Forgot to include; us gave nationalist old ww1 equipments (as with Ukraine) which was no match to Japanese’ up to date weapons (zeros and such). I was told after the first year of fighting, China had no airplanes left. And no tanks, no mechanized equipments,… mostly rifles against machine guns, yet they still managed to continue, out lasted and dragged down Japan at the same time.
China was like Europe, many different dialects, to the point of not understanding each other at all. Military? More like a hodgepodge of men, and worse, many neighbors held grudges, historically based. It wasn’t until well into the war and finally, an army.
As an Taiwanese reserved army second lieutenant that had been served 1 year. I have to say that most of Taiwanese comment over here are insufficient lack of information. Do not think all Taiwanese milltary strategic policy makers are idots.
Whether 4 month training is enough or not, it has to reflect to the arrangement of role on battle filed for these reserved army. From what I know, we will be treated as first frontier, stay in made bunk, engaging the landing team. The point is to trap and hold them off, waiting second front line official army to swipe out. So what the reserved private soldier has to do is shooting, abide and understand the order, and do some basic gun trouble clearing. This is what 4 months training all about. With increase frequency of refreshing skills once a year shoud be enough.
The other misunderstanding thinking is the number of reserved army. You have to think of battle filed depth and capacity of modern war, consider those few place which PLA would land(everyone knows and we all prepared).
From the Taiwanese strategic point of view, the landing phase is the final phase of this war. We still plan the final decisive battle on beach, not on the street. If that so, perhaps even 18 months training for reserved army is not enough.
符合美国的期待🤣
哄堂大孝
他是个troll
How can the US give their weapons to Taiwan which is an island surrounded by water? Taiwan Strait is a double sword. It's hard to occupy but also hard to supply. Even if China does not use weapons and merely blockade the periphery of the Taiwan Strait, Taiwan's energy will be depleted in a short period of time. China's navy and hypersonic anti-ship missiles now have area denial capabilities. The U.S. military barely has any chance of winning a locally battle without huge loss. So, the US will never deploy their military forces to help Taiwan fight, which will disappoint most of the Taiwanese.
@Chickens and Gardening It depends whether the US attacks Chinese Navy first. If the Chinese battleship is sunk by the US Navy, so will be the US ship. China also has nuclear-armed hypersonic IGBM, not as many as the US owns but enough to turn the US major cities into radioactive dusts, too. Don't overestimate the US power. China cannot defeat the US on the global level but locally just around Taiwan Strait, the US has little chance. Only the you guys would worship the orphan of WWII criminals like Japan. They can do nothing.
chinese navy is a joke compared to the US. air force too. every other country is miles behind in those categories. its not even a competition. Should US deploy they could defend and resupply quite easily. it would cost them though ofc, but the outcome is undeniable.
@@hullmees666 You are a joke.
I watched until 8:40 marks, as a US citizen, I would not defend Taiwan, the response here showed Taiwanese had no real motivation to defend their home land. It’s the reasons why we left Afghanistan.
Taiwanese definitely have motivation to defend Taiwan and our democracy if China invaded. Taiwans situation is literally nothing like Afghanistan
It's kind of hard to stomach the watch isn't it? It's like a joke to them, these kids. Considering how nationalistic all of their East Asian neighbors are, they're so far the outlier it's hard to make sense of the mentality. Ukrainians they are not.
On the mainland, the minimum military service system is 2 years. Can a soldier who has trained for 4 months resist a soldier who has trained for 2 years?
Yes, the Chinese soldiers are like Russian, cowards how work in the army for the money only.
Mainland has enough people to volunteer, Taiwan doesn't. Mainland has around 3.5 million military personnel (including the armed police force), which is 0.25% of the population. By this percentage, Taiwan can only hold 57k military personnel, which is not enough.
It won’t matter, Taiwan military will not resist if the day comes, all the top commanders know it well.
@@Marc-. You may want to offer your expertise to the Russian Intelligence services. They did not predict the Ukrainian resistance.
Whether it should be extended, removed or kept the same period wise I have no expertise in judging, but that it is only men who have to serve, which goes for most countries, is stupid. We can't only appeal for gender equalities when it benefits one gender.
In Brazil, mandatory military service lasts for 1 year.
I find it weird that some of the interviewees draw a comparison to the situation in Ukraine even though it's completely different in its nature.
biased media and systematic government brainwashing is the reason
The comparison is there because Taiwan is under constant military threat from China, not unlike Ukraine and Russia.
They’re in a difficult situation. I was drafted and served two years and if I remember correctly it took about four months to finish the basic and advanced training and then you were assigned to a position and destination. I hope you never have to face a war but if you’re not part of NATO the US may not send troops.
Oh you bet they are not going to send troops.
US talked a lot of crap with the Ukrainian nationalists since 2014, promising the US was on their side in the fight against the Russians but as it turned out, they'll fight Russia to the last Ukrainians. As it turned out, Ukraine is now practically owned by the Western banks and institutions and used as a tool to weaken Russia.
Don't expect anything different, especially when it concerns Taiwan; that should also already tell you enough of what their plans for Taiwan is regarding China. Their public opinion has already turned even worse in front of the entire world after this whole shenanigans. I do not expect them to push the Taiwan issue any further in the mean time. But who knows what a cornered rat will do.
American "democratic" government always do this. Whenever domestic approval turns low they pull some world wide problem off to boost that back at the cost of the world's public opinion. Desperation and collapse of an empire is all it is.
Instead of improving themselves to be better, they look to sabotage and drag their rivals beneath them to stay on top. Such a shame.
I never understood the need to force citizens to “pretend” to be soldiers.
It's not "pretend" but it's preparation, training, education about Nationalism.
So when really needed it's not completely blind.
@@yogawan3805 nationalism is a sham.
Well, Ukraine is understanding that now.
@@devil332patriot sham? Lol wow proud citizen.
IF another country invaded your country, are u ok with that?
U should be ok right?
3:47 this dude thinks 4 months of boredom is worse than having your country invaded. 2 years would be worth the boredom to protect your home and your family. WTH is wrong with people these days? He 'hurt' his leg playing sports. Coward. Depending on the US to defend you is a hope, not a certainty. Besides how do you expect people to die for someone's country if you're not even willing to die for your own?
Thankfully there are some other brave and clear headed young people in the video, and overall I think it addresses an important topic so thank you Asian Boss for highlighting Taiwan.
If you gonna do conscription, then do it for women too. Dont end up like South Korea
looks like the guy in black is a real patriot and will defend taiwan to his last breath...
Taiwan should raise the compensation for professional soldiers, provide more dedicated trainings and improve their ability of fighting a war instead of conscripting more amateurs who will contribute little during a modern warfare.
enough of your CCP propaganda
We used to serve two years twenty years ago. If the military can plan the program better I think having all adults go serve for a while is good for all compatriots to have the basic training. After all we have an enemy right in front of us. Those who are really interested to pursue it as a career can always enlist. No conflicts. With China getting more and more aggressive, for us to protect our homeland, we need to do our fair share of safeguarding ourselves.
@@ChnesRep中華民國OfTaiwan do you know anyone serving in your forces
@@LukSter18998 not currently. They have mostly if not all retired by now. At my times, many of the senior officers are strong KMT supporters. Given our demographics change, I am glad they are all retired. Personally I have done many things I can be proud of and served my country. Although really also much time wasted.
Agreed. Taiwanese tax dollars better spent on extra benefits for professional soldiers than wasted on conscription.
I think before extending it they should increase the quality of their training because from what I've read the training seems totally insufficient if they want to defend themselves against a power such as China.
they don't get a chance at all.
Talking about Taiwan being a country, Taiwan independence etc but refusing to have practical mandatory military service is shameless, voluntary military service alone will never have the numbers to defend Taiwan from China. Expecting other countries' military to defend Taiwan when Taiwanese yourselves don't support having a mandatory military service to defend your country is shameless. If Taiwan thinks its a country then Taiwan needs to have the ability to defend itself like a country, at least for awhile.
Also really over valuing TSMC importance... ASML that makes the machines that TSMC uses is not Taiwanese if TSMC in taiwan is destroyed the technology is not all lost, intel is catching up, TSMC is building factories in USA. So the value of TSMC in Taiwan is fast decreasing. TSMC alone will not be valuable enough for any country to defend Taiwan sacrificing their own citizens and risking greater war in the region, especially when Taiwanese people dont wanna fight for themselves.
WW2 british and allies surrendered Singapore to the japanese when they could have still fought but decided to save their own lifes, USA abandoned the Kurds in Syria, Not one foreign Troop is fighting under their coutries' flag in Ukraine, verbal and paper agreements are cheap and will gurantee nothing. When the war breaks out there will be 101 reasons not to help. When will Taiwan and citizens finally learn that no one can defend your country but yourselves.
Most ROC citizens are wussies when it comes time to actually serve and defend, zero commitment.
Well said.
Very happy about more content from Taiwan! I currently live here and their culture is very diverse and interesting in many ways... including strange military enlistment about which my friends talk as a "summer camp" lol.
Note: According to certain reports from Taiwanese netizens, this video by Asian Boss has included an interview from a high-ranking KMT representative who is posing as a random street-goer. This sort of controversy has already occurred once before in AsianBoss's videos about Taiwan (this is the second time), so this suggests that AsianBoss is biased against Taiwan or is simply fishing for clicks. Either way, it's a dishonest practice.
@@mr.mysteriousspyman4016 Asian Boss is the Buzzfeed of Asian culture youtube channels.
As a person who served mandatory national service in Singapore, I feel most of the Taiwanese interview attitude are pretty frivolous and self-centered.
Most of the people interviewed in this video are probably in their 20s
It doesn't matter, the number of soldiers in modern warfare is no longer the most important thing. The quality of individual soldiers and weapons and equipment are relatively more important, but after buying so many American weapons, does Taiwan still have enough budget to increase its military strength?
Independent individuals can survive even if they are weak as long as they rely on the strong, so Taiwan cannot learn from the experience of South Korea and Japan.
From the past to the future, the islanders of Taiwan have never been in control of their own destiny.
Were you asleep for the last 63 days? The war in Ukraine has clearly shown that a large number of motivated and well armed reservist can cause major trouble to an armies advance. Kiev was defended mostly by Ukraine territorial defense.
Taiwan has also extended its budget to buy the kind of weapons that gave Russia so much trouble in Ukraine. Including anti-ship missiles, drones etc.
@@ShriekingShadow Putin did bombard Mariupol and that didn't capitulate either.
If you seriously think a Chinese government would totally destroy Taiwan to "free it". Well you just gave me a good reason to throw a few nukes on Beijing before they get any other ideas for the rest of the world.
@@michaelrenper796
War has nothing but killings.
Emotions and political stances are not useful for observational analysis, these non-objective things will only help one side in the battle to brainwash you.
Ukraine is not Afghanistan, not Georgia, not Armenia, Russia is still Russia, but the battlefield still has electricity and network services, artillery positions in the community garden are live broadcast, and American drones are compiling files on Russian soldiers.
Bears don't turn into ballerinas by dancing in a china shop.
@@ShriekingShadow and china wont bombard taipei. for the same reasons.
I am a Chinese mainland and my girlfriend is Taiwanese. She told me that Taiwanese people have completely considered themselves independent. If China starts a war, then Taiwanese will resist the last one. To be honest, I do not agree with her. Because now is the missile age. If China really wants to solve the Taiwan issue, it will only need some missiles to solve it. Unfortunately, the Taiwanese are too naive. And deliver their own destiny to the United States, which will run away at any time，However, there will be many problems after the war. First, there are many Taiwanese in China. Maybe those Taiwanese will establish a Resistance Army in China after the war, which will have a certain impact on China. Second, western countries will not intervene in the war, but will take the opportunity to impose economic sanctions and blockade on
True, but I believe that the vast majority of Chinese will be willing, because we have waited too long.
From the patriotic elderly to the patriotic youth, our country's moral will hold us up.
Taiwan has more missiles than literally everywhere else. They'll missile-spam any ships and the mainland itself to the end.
Taiwanese will definitely not fight to the last. That's idealistic thinking. They may think they are independent, but that's a thinly covered veil. They are all Chinese and they know it. It's extremely senseless for them to fight each other only for a 3rd party to benefit. The DPP is massively corrupt and engage in censorship, and they especially censor anything that they're afraid that would support Beijing - down to even books coming from mainland. Couple months ago they defunded and publically humiliated (or for the Western audiences, a more familiar term - cancelled) a skater (Huang Yu, was it?) because she wore mainland's symbol on her sport uniform at an event. It's funny that Westerners don't know this but keep preaching and praising about "freedom" and "democracy" Taiwan when it's just a facade in reality. DPP is just a party that stays in power via fearmongering (and widely rumored fraud even in Taiwan).
I'm pretty sure they know this, and even if they didn't, they should now after seeing the US's attitude towards Ukraine.
I hope this issue gets resolved as soon as possible rather than let it be as the status quo. Dividing the country up is exactly what the US wants. It did this to Korea, it tried to do this to Vietnam, and it is now trying to do this to China. Baffle me that many Taiwanese hasn't learned at all and still naively fetishizes the US and idealize them, despite living thousands of miles away and never once setting foot in that country.
@@saint8257 Your point of view is not worth reading because you don’t consider the thoughts and feelings of Taiwanese people. It doesn’t matter if they share a lot of culture with the Mainland - they are still different and deserve to be treated as such forever. You seem to think someone getting cancelled on Twitter is something unique to Taiwan, or something not found in Mainland China, when the truth is the complete opposite for both those things.
@@wheresmyeyebrow1608 No, I am saying the blind nationalism built behind the facade that is called "democracy" in Taiwan is absolutely short-sighted.
Huang Yu wasn't cancelled on Twitter, she was defunded, berated, and publicly humiliated by the DPP and their practically monopoly on the media, simply for implicitly expressing support towards mainland. Big difference.
Also, Taiwan is the one who kept praising itself as a "democracy" and implies it is better than the mainland government, yet engage in similar censorship?
It seems to me this nationalism sentiments was built entirely via fear-mongering and propaganda.
They are different how, exactly? Like how many northern Chinese are different than the Southern ones? To Hong Kong Chinese?
"Feelings" can be irrational, and it seems to be the case here. I'm not even from mainland China. Take a lesson from Vietnam, Korea, and now Ukraine. US doesn't give a crap about any Taiwanese feelings. Only to weaken and de-stabilize China. As well as a cash cow when it cash off on selling Taiwanese arms and weapons. Watch your chip industry doesn't get stolen like how they did to Japan also.
It should be at least 2 years. 4 months is such a joke, how can you learn anything in that short amount of time...
From an outside perspective view, it’s better for Taiwan to reconcile and unite peacefully with China. No need for bloodshed for the eventuality. China will be everything in coming decades
as an outsider it is better for prc to reconcile with roc and rejoin them peacefully.
@Yeheng Music yes it is stupid. That was the point.
However how would peaceful rejoining be a disaster. It would be a complete opposite if they rejoined under democracy.
@Yeheng Music i meant roc yes. And i meant joining peacefully under democracy would be the the opposite of a disaster. Its impossible ofc, i know that.
@Yeheng Music im aware their democracy it far from ideal. I just will never support a totalitarian regime, especially the kind in prc.
@Yeheng Music well said. In short, a unified China under ROC is basically turning all Chinese into western lapdogs, which the PRC is avoiding but sadly those in ROC are too naive to see
3:21 that guy looks fun
I love how the guy in the black shirt said Taiwan wouldn't start war unilaterally, without any evidence. If Taiwan ever had the military advantage, it would have fought the CCP long ago. Yet, the ROC was forced to retreat into this tiny island and now dreaming about independence, since it can't win in a war.
u can Blame Nixon, they have plenty opportunity to independence, well just let China to powerfull to ressist today. still oppose taiwan Independence. US. is the noe who change anything without say anything to those people on Taiwan.
here we go
@@juanandreas97 Did you even learn history in school?
They could have easily defeated the communists before the communists regrouped their forces, but refrained under the conditions of the Marshall Plan, not to mention that the Nationalists did more of the direct fighting compared to the Communists who were more with guerilla warfare, which basically exhausted the Nationalist army and allowed the communists to take over, which kind of isn't fair as they did most of the direct fighting with greater casualties and got pretty much stabbed in the back when they were weak
@@juanandreas97 the blame really lies more on Truman and his Truman doctrine/Marshall plan which while was a pretty helpful plan for nations around the world, led to the collapse of the nationalists forces and rise/recovery of the communist forces, not to mention that if he had given his support during the Korean War, the ROC could have potentially conquered the rest of the Mainland
@@jeffrey2326 Doesn't matter. The communists drove the nationalists back. If not for the Americans, the civil war would have long ended.
Oh no they are going to interview us, act like a regular Taiwanese and dont be suspicious! friend proceeds 3:05
hahaha so fake
Mandatory military service for men is necessary for certain countries as a 'just in case' kind of thing. Being 4 months is not quite as bad compared to (for example) South Korea's mandatory military service. It's required for males ages 18 ~ 28 to serve 18 months of military service or face jail time.
Honestly, I think having a mandatory service is a bit unnecessary in this day & age. I think it would be more effective to have those service on their own volition. It you want to serve you will be more willing to effectively train and do all you can.
I think for some countries mandatory military service is really good idea
@Fenimore Jhno tell that to ukraine , living example , lol
@Fenimore Jhno 🤡🤡🤡
It should be mandatory for both genders, not just men.
This should be a walkover whenever China invades.
China won’t invade, and if they do they’ll just get missile-spammed to death lol
After that first interview in Taiwan, Asian Boss opens a Pandora box that keeps bringing us valuable views from the country!
unsurprisingly the one aspect of life where i never see feminist/allies fight for equality for
💡Four months of military service is light; especially considering the need of the island of Taiwan to have a knowledge base to draw on in case of national emergency.✅
This is definitely needed in India considering our very hostile neighborhood.
Hostile? I thought India is the one who fought war with ALL your neighbors, and constantly provoking and bullying others.
No, it isn't
Taiwan should look at how Finland has done their conscription and military. 6-12 months for mandatory training and supplemental training over the years, with an option for civil service for 12 months. Opening career paths and training in general.
I've never seen so many pro china comments before....kinda fishy
I…Totally didn’t know Taiwan had mandatory military 🤯🤯
I suppose, they fear China:
but I think, that it would be so cool; if: ASIA:
"United together and were Proud of, but most of ALL: TRUSTED AND EVEN More so; LOVED:
1 Another!!"!!-Personally.-(M.K.S.).
It's for the same exact reason why South Korea has a military mandate
4 months ? * Laughs in south Korean 14 months mandatory service
Taiwan should scrap conscription and replace it with a volunteers only military reserve force. The reserve soldier should be paid and trained better than a space filling conscript who's heart is not in it. After being trained the reservists return every year for refresher training which is paid tax free as incentive to join up. This benefit and a long list of other benefits may entice Taiwanese to sign up for the reserves hapily and voluntarily...
umm, isnt the point of conscription to have a large reserve army? at least it is in my country and every other in the region. service is 8-11 months and you'll be considered to reserve after with refresher trainings and exercises taking place and being mandatory until you reach the age of 60. nobody expects active conscripts (still training) to actually fight.
it's delusional to think a 100% professional army is enough to stand against an opponent so much more powerful than oneself.
4 months is too short to learn anything.
Taiwan has a 160K+ professional volunteer army, but those 4 months of mandatory military training are needed to improve strength badly.
@@hullmees666 Yes part of the reason governments have conscription is to have a reserve force. One of the many negatives of conscription is the quality of soldier is very low. So you end up have a sub standard reserve force which can give the military a false sense of security. Many modern professional militaries have reserve forces who are made up of volunteers only. Many countries who have real war experience removed conscription because of the many negatives learned. I could be wrong but my opinion is Taiwan should chose quality over quantity and use volunteers who want to do the job instead of forcing someone to do this very very important job against their will.
@@kianono3209 You are correct but it is possible to fulfil the tasks with volunteers instead of conscripts. It won't be easy and it will cost more for Taiwan but the benefits should outweigh the negatives imo.
@@kingobnoxious the pros are better than cons. Conscription has been removed for only 2 real reasons. Money and ideology. The reserve you are talking about it pretty much nonexistent. Finland wouldnt have even close to the largest war time army in europe without conscription like they have now. Conscription is better. Its a bonus. Its not like there isnt professional army and volunteers at the same time.
From what they said, looks like extending it is not very useful but would be better to have a short refresher every year or so.
I don't know why, but as far as I know, the mandatory military services in many Asian countries are more strict than Western countries.
which western country has a mandatory service besides Israel?
@@alexsnow5092 finland
@@alexsnow5092 Wow, Israel is a Western country. By the way, do Western countries not have mandatory military service? I find Nordic countries have.
@@hoangkimviet8545 Countries like the US have Selective Service which technically could be used to draft men older than 18, but in reality isn’t much more than a formality. You have to sign up for Selective Service to receive federal aid on student loans among other things, but you don’t have any requirements to join the military.
The US has a professional volunteer army which most military leaders prefer to mass conscription. Troop quality is substantially greater (especially NCO’s), and more soldiers wouldn’t solve most problems they have. I think there’s also the difference that very few western countries have fear of war within their borders. With NATO’s existence backed by American (and to a lesser extent French and British) nukes, most recognize that conflicts would be suicidal. As a result, the only real threats from other nations come in the form of cyberattacks or other actions short of violence.
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The guys @2:46 are super jacked on propaganda lol
Hahaha 🤣
In the event of war, do you think the US will help.
Just like the US is helping in the Russia/Ukraine conflict; the US is willing to fight China to the very last Taiwanese.
Hmm, that is an interesting take. What do you propose? Leaving Ukraine to fight alone? Going in entirely and starting WW3?
Surely the middle, uncomfortable, ground is the only rational one to take.
@@sroberts605 US/NATO has egging Russia on in this conflict for years, just like they're doing with China. The Ukraine coup was in 2014, Victoria Nuland on tape picking the new president. Nancy Pelosi is looking to visit Taiwan, that's a red line for China.
Both Ukraine and Taiwan are useful idiots for the US. If/when the war happens, US will not have boots on the ground.
Stop dreaming lmao. The USA is only benefiting themselves in this war. They sweet talked Ukraine into their plan but it backfired and now Russia makes the first move. What do they do? They watch. And they're going to do the same to you people in Taiwan
@@burentori9620 you should read my comment again. I think you misunderstood.
要提高的是快速动员能力，在4小时之内对全国完成动员，同时要让当过兵的人不遗忘军事技能，同时更新使用新型的武器。
To fight for US
Funny histroy:
CCP has never opened fire at Taiwan, but Taiwan bombed Shanghai and many other cities.
oh really?
does your prime leader use that
to block taiwan?
@@LukSter18998 that is true… as the Taiwan Chinese wanted to retake the mainland before
@@markchiu1716 “the taiwan chinese”
i wonder why they’re different
@@LukSter18998 brainwash works , the textbook in the school was changed since late 1990s and early 2000s, teach people they are Taiwanese and not Chinese . Identity is the first step towards independence
Not true. PRC used to fire one cannon ball every morning to Kinmen just to signal that the civil war was still ongoing. The last cannon ball was fired on Dec. 15, 1979.
Females should be drafted for Nurses/Medical profession.
as you can see in a pandemic., the country can also activate the reserve forces to help out the medical services..
Nowadays in the army, female soldiers can serve in the signals battalion, for communication and operate UAV and drones for surveillance.
The video ignores one of the most basic common sense and international law that no country or international organization in the world considers Taiwan to be an independent sovereign state. The international community believes that both the Republic of China (Taiwan) and the People's Republic of China are China， so this is their internal affair, not about invasion， We hope the two sides can solve the problem by themselves peacefully.
3:12 how is no one talking about this troll lmaoo, love him
To meet the US expectations🤣🤣🤣
The IDF is a good example of mandatory military that is done correctly. They could offer free higher education like college.
True
Nobody would dare touch Taiwan without involving the PRC. I don't think people realize that
When I was younger I thought mandatory military service was horrible, but now I'm a bit older I think it's probably a good thing (as long as it's not too long).
Teaches young people discipline, basic weapons usage, etc
No ur just too optimistic, its a literal slavery and sexist institution.
yes, as a former conscript (in europe) i can say that the time is not enjoyable, but it is beneficial. to the state (in case of a war) and to the person himself (for the reason you mentioned + and a bond with the guys you served with). also for many it is a huge deal that they get away from their mommies and daddies and learn how to live without their help.
4 months is ridiculous, all you do is get basic training, they should serve 2 years.
I am Taiwanese. If many Taiwanese are like the Taiwanese in this interview, I would be very worried.
So what you expect the Taiwanese to be like?
65% of taiwanese have said they would defend china if taiwan is attacked, and it will rise furhter after their cities are bombed
@@zennoix9984 Taiwanese should try to avoid the war, not prepare the war. yeah, it is worrisome, it smells something weird and stupid
Wow 4 months -_- here we do 3 years ffs