"I want to talk about DBD here why are you bringing up past stuff?" *Proceeds to continue to rant about the LGBT community for literally no reason at all* Every time
One time in Ancient Rome men were so against wearing pants or anyone wearing it, that they protested to a point an emperor banned pants 💀 Also for a bit women weren’t allowed in plays, men had to take the roles instead
And I also feel that the opposite is true, that most straight people are accepting of lgbt (with some exceptions of course) just something i noticed from people around me compared to people who aren’t accepting
@@TheDsRequiem so? He still was the one to do it. Saying that "someone else would have done it" It's a pretty nothing argument considering it can apply to any creation ever
“Can a girl wear jeans and a flannel” “Yeah, that’s different cuz…uhh how should I word this” HE TALKED HIMSELF INTO A CORNER! Cuz the answer is “it’s all a social construct and we’ve arbitrarily decided (only within the last century btw) that it’s ok for a girl to wear pants”
I mean.... it's a bit of a stretch to go from women wearing pants to full frontal in front of minors and then getting mad at people for getting angry abot it..... Not to take that other guy's side though, he's just a poor representative of his beliefs and doesn't really know how to verbalize it in a coherent way and serves more as a joke that gets emotional and yells back, same as the type of people he's arguing against and the contradictions they demand to be taken as reality :/
@@ShaggyTheClown17have you ever been into a woman's restroom dude? No one's "full frontal" every toilet is blocked by a stall. The people who usually end up getting harassed in a bathroom are trans women who get filmed or verbally attacked for just trying to wash their hands or pee in a stall where no one can see them. If someone is seeing a trans woman pee in a stall it means they are likely purposely looking under the door which is creepy.
@ShaggyTheClown17 Ah yes cause everyone here is defending being nude in front of children. We're all just misunderstanding his beliefs and if someone who really knew what they were saying was debating, we'd all see the error of our ways.
@@Yourbeautiful666 but it also goes against his own logic. In the video he literally said if a boy wears a dress even as a Halloween costume that it's abuse. But girls wearing pants to him is fine when years ago it wouldn't be.
They probably will come out in a year or two,this is just the "denial" phase. They clearly are trans or at least queer,but are in denial and full of self hatred and can't be happy with themselves. Hope they grow and improve as a person and find their own self acceptance eventually
Spot on. I would wager that this streamer was raised by their parents, being taught by them that being gay, transgender etc. isn't acceptable, and so it's like a "No, I can't be gay/trans, because that's wrong, so I'm obviously not." when it's something that's not in their control. This is something I see too often and I know people who were like that in the past. It's exactly this "anti-woke" indoctrination by many parents that ends up being harmful to their own child.
@@Rayven_420as someone raised exactly like this and realized I was queer at 13 and trans at 15 after I got out of the echo chamber bubble my family created it wouldn't surprise me. It takes a lot for that bubble of hatred that was taught to pop. I got lucky that my family didn't know how to use internet parental blocks and I got into online chat rooms which allowed me to meet people with different views.
I get genuinely sad whenever I see someone that's just so blindly following a dogma without any clear critical thought behind what they believe in. It's clear that this streamer struggles at every point to articulate just WHY he believes what he believes. He just defaults to "woke" or "child abuse" without being able to explain what any of these things mean. It's genuinely sad that he feels like he's saying so much while literally saying nothing. I believe that's also why he relies on videos so much to get points across because he just had been told that it's bad without having any idea why so he needs something *else* to explain it for him.
Definitely. It feels like he's never introspected or actually *thought* about his beliefs. He was just told it's wrong and so he goes: "Well it's just wrong", without considering the implications of what his beliefs are or how they work out when being applied in a broader sense.
Hey Spooks, trans woman here. I wanna say how much it means to me that you stick up for the LGBTQ community at every opportunity you get, vehemently and with no tolerance of people's bigoted bullshit. Having allies like you means a lot to us, especially with the audience you have. You and others like you are the reason I come back to DBD- the ones who love us for who we are and tell those who are shitty to us to kick sand. As for the whole idea that men can't wear dresses, boys wore dresses up till the ages of almost 10 in the Victorian eras up until the 20's or 30's. Pink was also considered a masculine color until someone arbitrarily decided that pink is a girls color and blue is a men's color. Victorian era again, if I'm not mistaken.
Also: The oh so very feminine High Heels were made for men. In the 18th century they wore high-heeled shoes and leather boots for riding horses. The heels helped their feet stay in the stirrups while riding. Later it became a statement. High Heels = High Status. This is all so stupid. We lova ya and you will always be welcome, never forget that.
As a trans child myself, it also means a lot. People act like children, ones my age who can work, decide what we want to do for the rest of our lives, and are experiencing many feelings, can’t POSSIBLY say we’re trans by ourselves, that someone HAD to have manipulated us. Sure, I’ll say I’ve met a few people who’ve claimed to be trans and it ended up not true- but considering being trans was being accepted only more recently, obviously it’d have its time where it was “cool” and “fun,” however I think there is nothing wrong with experimenting especially when you’re in your coming of age years like myself so I see nothing wrong with that. Idk man- but personally, sometimes these kinds of people just make me WISH they’d just call me a slur and or tell me to kms rather than try and convince me that I’ve disillusioned myself and stuff like that bc that may as well be what they want.
I dont usually like the homophobic/transphobic person is secretly gay/trans trope, but he was so defensive about his Alice persona that it definitely seems plausible in this case. Oh my god, I hadn't even gotten to the point where he admitted his dad stopped him from trying his mom's makeup.
@daqpi True, on any show they put on make up on male and female people! You just don't see it on man because it's supposed to make them not shine and stuff!
How this went from dbd to fucking homophobia is absolute madness, felt like I'm losing sanity Like what is bro yapping about, I'm surprised that Spooks didn't lose any braincells with this guy
He’s probably just gonna post more videos calling spook a hypocrite while spreading hate to his audience of yes men. He did this after the last debate and just showed a bunch of cherrypicked videos. The same ones he brought up in this debate
For these people it's truly all that's going on inside their heads. They can't stop themselves from spouting their hateful rethoric, they HAVE to tell on themselves. These people need therapy
Actually, you tend to cook sushi quite a lot. Just not with heat. For example, cold smoking salmon takes 3 to 4 hours of cooking, and 2 days of curing which also counts as cooking. You should say about as much as you cook something like salad, or as much as a PB&J
"how they banned a woman who was taking picture in the bathroom" LOL bro what? isn't it known that it is never okay to film or take photos in bathrooms, but especially locker rooms?
I would normally say this is true, but I also need some context. You shouldn't take pictures in the bathroom or locker room for other people's privacy, but if she was doing it to show there was a man in the women's restroom I kinda see where she's coming from. You should use your biologically correct bathroom no matter what you identify as. Dress how you want, be whatever you want, but understand that not everyone subscribes to that. Just cuz you want to be a woman doesn't mean you should go into the women's locker rooms.
Fr I didn’t even have to look for a reason, it’s common sense that you can’t take photos of people in the locker room. AND then post it/share it? That’s jail.
The sharing of this story that he thinks backs him up is really working against his point. Everyone on tv wears makeup, men and women. It’s common in some other countries for men to wear makeup to varying degrees as well. Every conservative talking head he likes wears makeup. Actors wear makeup too. Models wear makeup. He fails to understand there’s no actual rules, just social norms and expectations that change with the times. His mom likely just didn’t want him playing with her makeup and told him that short answer rather than give him a nuanced answer.
The moment any reason or compassion hits their ear, it's like they go blank. If you prove them wrong, they'll literally just say "nu-uh" like a pathetic whiny child.
Toxic streamer really keeps coming back thinking he's winning in these situations when he really doesn't know how to talk in a debate. Its also amazing it was almost an hour of the toxic streamer just ranting and barely getting into topics of him harrassing people.
Hey Spooks! I'm a transman and I just want to say thank you. Having prominent cis male influencers like you being so passionate and standing up for the lgbtq+ community means more than words. Thank you thank you thank you. Fuck yea dude 🙏
its so real. im trans too and im glad that people like spook exist. tbh he is my fav content creator mostly because he can just speak up and he's not afraid of admiting that something is bad or something is not and he call out people who are harrasing others. not like some content creators over there who just say once a year 'um ya callking someone fa***t is bad' or other stuff like that or just say 'plz be nice to eachother' without anything else cuz they are scared they gonna lose viewers for defending lgbt people.
"what does that have to do with the LGBT community?" "A woke school. A woke school." "what does the school have to do with Gay or Trans?" "You can't be this dumb"
as a trans person, just to be clear- HRT is not easily accessible to us ESPECIALLY if youre a minor. not a SINGLE person is getting forcefully transitioned at school. i know spooks chat and comment section is smart enough to know better but i just had to squash that one bc its such a wild claim
I’d also like to add that IF that was actually happening we’d damn well know about it already. How? Well there would be reports for abnormal amounts of blood being drawn, or we’d have cases of gravely sick kids (because without proper blood draws it’s unknown what your levels are so it’d be off putting them and effing you up) so like???? Idk man it’s a crazy take I’m ngl😭💀
@@MamaBearKS Because people don't understand what common sense means. They think it is a defense for their position, if it is common sense than everyone else is insane; but that not what common sense means. Because what he is saying isn't under common sense.
nah not really the only thing unless u consider skirt a dress then yes but it wasnt just to ride horses easier it was to not constrict the legs depending on your occupation but most importantly it was a huge cultural thing in ancient times and nothing wrong with letting da marbles get some good ventilation.
This guys (the annoying one not spooks) argument boils down to “i don’t like it so it’s wrong” and when spooks rebukes that, he just says “it’s still weird”. Also him crossing as Alice on an alt is VERRY telling
The only reason why pants were invented was to provide greater mobility and protection for people who rode horses. So technically it is weird for us to wear pants if we are not riding a horse.
@@ShaggyTheClown17 Nope you can google it. Ancient Asian warriors (think around the time of the Mongolians) invented them for mobility on Horses while traveling and riding them into war.
Simple: Gender is a social construct. Gender is fluid. Sex is what he's referring to as "DNA" but sex does not necessarily equate to one's gender; what someone chooses to identify and express. I hate how he's talking about "innocent children" not having "choice" with wearing dresses... Let kids explore instead of stifling their expression and exploration of the world with rigid, heteronormative* societal gender construct. Let kids have choice. Him getting so busted over men wearing dresses when there are so many cultures that have men wear dress/skirt-like garments. Dude, they're comfortable as hell too. Would rather that then some jeans to fit societal expectations of being a "man" or whatever.
We had a teacher appreciation day at school and one of my male classmates dressed as a female teacher wearing a dress with tights, makeup, heels even tried to put a small clip in his hair like her. He was so proud that not only he look like her but out teacher even joked he looked better than she did lol. I dressed as the creepypasta Jeff the Killer for Halloween even tho I'm female and ppl loved my outfit. Some ppl just want to make problems where there doesn't need to b
I dress like a guy most of the time on Halloween because I typically go out alone and it feels a lot safer. People are nice and respectful when I do that, but feel very predatory towards me when I’m fem-presenting, even in completely appropriate costumes. I’m straight and AFAB if that’s relevant.
@@virtualgambit577 I'm a straight female in a wheelchair so I tend to gravitate to male clothes bc they seem to last longer than womens clothes not to mention men's clothes have more and better pockets so I don't drop things as easily. I grew up with 2 older brothers so I'm very much a tomboy at heart
@@aureliegilbert1523 In some places, it is illegal to take photos of someone in a place where they have an expectation of privacy (like a bathroom or changing room). Like seriously, "She did nothing wrong!" I laughed at that, and he thinks he possesses common sense. Common sense is the most misused thing on the planet. Any time someone invokes it, it is always in a situation where common sense doesn't apply.
apparently it was a man, but. The thing I have the biggest problem with is when people accuse the majority who don't play long of being the reason for these sorts unaliving themselves, I mean, if someone has to threaten to unalive themselves or others, or try to guilt trip people by saying they will to try and get people to do what they want.... You know what that's called? It's one of the T words and it was a VERY popular word in 2001.
and yea person shouldn't be taking pictures in the bathroom at all, if it was that much a problem there wouldn't be any words needed, flee and tell someone about it.
i did an ECE course and when i was on placements there was a little boy who absolutely loveddddd having dresses on and he loved to pretend to be elsa from frozen. he was soooo happy when he had his dress on, there was absolutely nothing wrong with boy wearing dresses as long and they are happy with it. this guy makes my brain smooth.
I'm only 11 mins in right now, but this man can't comprehend the difference between you telling people to move on because they're mad about how you played a game vs you calling people out for harassing behavior?? Critical thinking skills are at an all-time low for people who are too comfortable being vocal about the dumbest shit online ALSO! This guy is clearly not working with a full set if he thinks he can say anything about your wife and child and you're just going to be cool with him. What a tool
Ain't that the truth! Sadly we can't argue with idiots we can just point and laugh and maybe if they can think outside of their preconceived notions they'll have the capacity to reflect and change
He needs therapy or something. He surrounds himself with other incredibly toxic people (if you know his channel and have seen any of his recent streams, you know his main friend is just like him) and it’s clear he represses some part of himself. Part of me feels bad for him, the other part of me laughs at the time an Adam helped me mori him when I played Ghostface
It gets worrying the fact this level of delusion is normalized, how people practically ignore everything besides the things they despise. It's exhausting and I would know given before I realized I was trans I thought almost identically like this guy but then realized "Wow I'm really dumb for believing this bs that these hateful people say". Also sitting through all this was worth it just for this part alone OMG 51:59
pretty sure he just has hate followers and a couple people who are exactly like him so they can't make any other friends. When he sent his chat to harass me on stream, like two people from his stream were on his side and like ten were on mine (I am a 1 viewer Andy, so they all came from his stream)
“GOD NO I DONT WATCH YOUR VIDEOS” 😂😂😂😂 he’s hopping from delusion to delusion so fast he cant keep track. Good on you spooks for dealing with this for so long ❤
I shouldnt be surprised that theres literally no dbd in the dbd debate, but i still was a little shook. As a trans man, thank you Spook for defending the community against bigots like this who hate just because we exist
@@TheDsRequiemwords CAN hurt you according to SCOTUS. Hate speech, threats, incitement… all criminal. Because words CAN hurt people and drive people to act.
@@TheDsRequiem words are the precursor to actions which can hurt people. People with this guy's mindset can and have hurt innocent people because they don't align with their beliefs
Thank you so much for pointing out that just because a parent raises you a certain way, doesn't mean you are that way. This was very warming to hear. I grew up in a VERY conservative and Baptist family; I am neither of those things now and the interacts I have with that family don't happen. I haven't spoken with them in over 15 years. Thank you, thank you, thank you SO much for sticking up for children and adults to become their own people and make their own informed decisions in life. This person was off his rocker and I do hope that he finds the help he needs in life so that he isn't so hateful towards others.
i'm a trans man and really appreciate how vocal you are in support for trans people, jukes. most content creators are really ambivalent or quiet about it and its disheartening.
Yeah it’s not like spooks is an amazing debate lord, he slips up bc he is honest and not manipulative. The juxtaposition of him talking to boogie who is manipulative and argues in bad faith is so frustrating lol
I'm guessing that he doesn't realize that until like the past 100yrs boys did wear dresses.... It was just a sales propaganda so clothing companies sold more clothes by separating genders with types of clothes and colors.
Hello! Daycare provider here: I have a boy in my class that enjoys playing dress up and will ask me to help them put on a Princess Tiana costume. He enjoys wearing it and pretending he’s a fairy. I will never understand people who will see it as “inappropriate” or “abuse”. If the child asks to play pretend and wants to wear a dress why do we have to gender code things? Why do these people stress themselves out with stressing for strangers. They’re the cause of their own depression imo.
This was absolutely painful to hear. You can't debate people like this. I used to be friends with someone like this (actually even more extreme than this guy) that i watched fall down into a hole like this and no matter how much common sense and proof that I gave this person, they always would go back to 'just because' explanations. Can't debate/talk to guys like this.
This guy's entire morals and beliefs are based off of a first word reaction to something. He has absolutely no critical thinking skills at all. He is completely unable to look inward at himself and his own beliefs. He doesn't have a reason for thinking the way he does. He just thinks he's right because it's "common sense," and that's enough for him. It's genuinely sad and embarrassing to witness a man like this attempt to argue why he believes what he does, and not being able to give more than one or two flimsy reasons for how bigoted he is. There are millions of people just like this guy, and that's pretty disheartening.
“You can call me cringey all you want. I’m married, my wife is hot, I’m doing just fine”
MY GOAT
audible said "TALK YO SHIT" actually fucking crushed him with that lmao
He's so real for that
he was so real for that
and THAT´S how you roast a idiot person like that guy my boy spooks is on fire
@dharaktheteendemonboyandan563❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
myers just standing there the whole time makes this video 30x better
It’s like he’s the mediator at a therapy session
Lol
Ur a god lmfao I ain't even see that...he's jus waiting to kill looking around like...ummm... This my que orrrrr??...
Even Myers is disappointed in the goober behavior the guy was spewing
these two arguing, myers getting his tier 4 tombstone
"I want to talk about DBD here why are you bringing up past stuff?"
*Proceeds to continue to rant about the LGBT community for literally no reason at all*
Every time
Projection cuts deep
The fucking "yes it was a skit" was so fucking funny
Dude would go ballistic if he knew about Shakespeare and his plays.
And this guy watches Whose Line is it Anyway, too. Like... dude...
@@drizztrl7644 I loved how he named everyone so you really know he's watched it lol
Ikr lmfao I damn near choked on my cup n soup x'D
This was the part Goofy REALLY did not want to share because it was such a huge hole in Goofy's logic
If bro saw what the ancient Greeks wore he'll have a heart attack
Or some natives too judging he sounds like he’s from America
wait till he finds out dresses and high heels were originally invented for men.
@@byakurenhoujuu Fr!?
He’d just tell everyone to stay in their own countries or “get out of America.” Like the racist homophobe he is 😂
One time in Ancient Rome men were so against wearing pants or anyone wearing it, that they protested to a point an emperor banned pants 💀
Also for a bit women weren’t allowed in plays, men had to take the roles instead
him dressing feminine himself is just so telling, i mean the amount of homophobes that turn out to be lgbt in some way is hilarious
I wish I could like this comment 100 times
@@lRockyI You can but it will take some time considering you need to make 100 accounts, lol.
And I also feel that the opposite is true, that most straight people are accepting of lgbt (with some exceptions of course) just something i noticed from people around me compared to people who aren’t accepting
@@okuyashoe_officialreligion is saying no to that
While this can be true, it's also a very damaging rhetoric.
Bigots are bigots, regardless of where they are on the gender spectrum
He straight up sounds like those NPC's that you hear complaining on GTA Vice City radio stations 😂
Or those NPCs that just loop conversations in circles no matter what answers/questions you choose 💀
Yo holy shit I deadass feel like I’m driving through Los santos listening to this lmaoooooo
50:15 "What good has the LGBT community done" He said while sitting at his computer. Man needs to look up Alan Turing.
Hey man I guarantee if he didn't do it someone else would have lmao
@@TheDsRequiem so? He still was the one to do it. Saying that "someone else would have done it" It's a pretty nothing argument considering it can apply to any creation ever
Fr:(what happened to Alan Turing is so sad
@@TheDsRequiem but he did it
“Can a girl wear jeans and a flannel”
“Yeah, that’s different cuz…uhh how should I word this”
HE TALKED HIMSELF INTO A CORNER! Cuz the answer is “it’s all a social construct and we’ve arbitrarily decided (only within the last century btw) that it’s ok for a girl to wear pants”
I mean.... it's a bit of a stretch to go from women wearing pants to full frontal in front of minors and then getting mad at people for getting angry abot it.....
Not to take that other guy's side though, he's just a poor representative of his beliefs and doesn't really know how to verbalize it in a coherent way and serves more as a joke that gets emotional and yells back, same as the type of people he's arguing against and the contradictions they demand to be taken as reality :/
@@ShaggyTheClown17have you ever been into a woman's restroom dude? No one's "full frontal" every toilet is blocked by a stall. The people who usually end up getting harassed in a bathroom are trans women who get filmed or verbally attacked for just trying to wash their hands or pee in a stall where no one can see them. If someone is seeing a trans woman pee in a stall it means they are likely purposely looking under the door which is creepy.
@ShaggyTheClown17 Ah yes cause everyone here is defending being nude in front of children. We're all just misunderstanding his beliefs and if someone who really knew what they were saying was debating, we'd all see the error of our ways.
Wearing different clothes and calling yourself the opposite gender isn’t the same thing
@@Yourbeautiful666 but it also goes against his own logic. In the video he literally said if a boy wears a dress even as a Halloween costume that it's abuse. But girls wearing pants to him is fine when years ago it wouldn't be.
dude is so far in the closet that he's reached Narnia.
i kinda feel bad for alice
It's obviously repression and interalised homophobia, but they can't accept it
They probably will come out in a year or two,this is just the "denial" phase. They clearly are trans or at least queer,but are in denial and full of self hatred and can't be happy with themselves. Hope they grow and improve as a person and find their own self acceptance eventually
Spot on. I would wager that this streamer was raised by their parents, being taught by them that being gay, transgender etc. isn't acceptable, and so it's like a "No, I can't be gay/trans, because that's wrong, so I'm obviously not." when it's something that's not in their control. This is something I see too often and I know people who were like that in the past. It's exactly this "anti-woke" indoctrination by many parents that ends up being harmful to their own child.
@@Rayven_420as someone raised exactly like this and realized I was queer at 13 and trans at 15 after I got out of the echo chamber bubble my family created it wouldn't surprise me. It takes a lot for that bubble of hatred that was taught to pop. I got lucky that my family didn't know how to use internet parental blocks and I got into online chat rooms which allowed me to meet people with different views.
@@404Khakis_not_found I am so glad and so proud that you managed to break that cycle. Hope you're doing well now!
Unfortunately goofy will forever have her trapped in wonderland
I get genuinely sad whenever I see someone that's just so blindly following a dogma without any clear critical thought behind what they believe in. It's clear that this streamer struggles at every point to articulate just WHY he believes what he believes. He just defaults to "woke" or "child abuse" without being able to explain what any of these things mean. It's genuinely sad that he feels like he's saying so much while literally saying nothing. I believe that's also why he relies on videos so much to get points across because he just had been told that it's bad without having any idea why so he needs something *else* to explain it for him.
Definitely. It feels like he's never introspected or actually *thought* about his beliefs. He was just told it's wrong and so he goes: "Well it's just wrong", without considering the implications of what his beliefs are or how they work out when being applied in a broader sense.
Bro learned the term "cherry picking" during this debate, and the irony is palpable.
You heard here first boys, it is illegal for us to wear dresses.
Fuck there goes my Sunday nights
I'd wear a dress to spite him and laugh at him
That won’t stop me 😡
Take me to jail then cuz I just look fantastic in a dress ✨️
Good thing i like disobeying my authorities >:D
who tf says "shut your mouth, im talking" like bro who do u think u are, u aint his mom
be careful he'll role play as your mother
@@baeber😂
He's the main character
He talks like that because that's how his parents spoke to him
Hey Spooks, trans woman here. I wanna say how much it means to me that you stick up for the LGBTQ community at every opportunity you get, vehemently and with no tolerance of people's bigoted bullshit. Having allies like you means a lot to us, especially with the audience you have. You and others like you are the reason I come back to DBD- the ones who love us for who we are and tell those who are shitty to us to kick sand.
As for the whole idea that men can't wear dresses, boys wore dresses up till the ages of almost 10 in the Victorian eras up until the 20's or 30's. Pink was also considered a masculine color until someone arbitrarily decided that pink is a girls color and blue is a men's color. Victorian era again, if I'm not mistaken.
Men don't give birth though 😂
Also: The oh so very feminine High Heels were made for men. In the 18th century they wore high-heeled shoes and leather boots for riding horses. The heels helped their feet stay in the stirrups while riding. Later it became a statement. High Heels = High Status.
This is all so stupid.
We lova ya and you will always be welcome, never forget that.
YWNBAW
I see you sister: keep kicking ass
As a trans child myself, it also means a lot. People act like children, ones my age who can work, decide what we want to do for the rest of our lives, and are experiencing many feelings, can’t POSSIBLY say we’re trans by ourselves, that someone HAD to have manipulated us.
Sure, I’ll say I’ve met a few people who’ve claimed to be trans and it ended up not true- but considering being trans was being accepted only more recently, obviously it’d have its time where it was “cool” and “fun,” however I think there is nothing wrong with experimenting especially when you’re in your coming of age years like myself so I see nothing wrong with that.
Idk man- but personally, sometimes these kinds of people just make me WISH they’d just call me a slur and or tell me to kms rather than try and convince me that I’ve disillusioned myself and stuff like that bc that may as well be what they want.
I dont usually like the homophobic/transphobic person is secretly gay/trans trope, but he was so defensive about his Alice persona that it definitely seems plausible in this case.
Oh my god, I hadn't even gotten to the point where he admitted his dad stopped him from trying his mom's makeup.
Yeah I hate it too but wow does he not fit the stereotype to a T
,,Boys can't put on make up!" Damn, I should tell this to many metal bands /s
Or basically any show. He doesnt know about make up on talk shows, basically every show uses that
@daqpi True, on any show they put on make up on male and female people! You just don't see it on man because it's supposed to make them not shine and stuff!
@Crimok i wish he was intelligent enough to come on a talkshow but it will never come that far XD
How this went from dbd to fucking homophobia is absolute madness, felt like I'm losing sanity
Like what is bro yapping about, I'm surprised that Spooks didn't lose any braincells with this guy
He probably did tbh. I know I did 😂
He loves the drama of course he didnt
He’s probably just gonna post more videos calling spook a hypocrite while spreading hate to his audience of yes men. He did this after the last debate and just showed a bunch of cherrypicked videos. The same ones he brought up in this debate
For these people it's truly all that's going on inside their heads. They can't stop themselves from spouting their hateful rethoric, they HAVE to tell on themselves. These people need therapy
“ I just cooked your ass”
Yeah about as much as you cook sushi
So slightly... if you count the rice, sorry bad joke
Actually, you tend to cook sushi quite a lot. Just not with heat. For example, cold smoking salmon takes 3 to 4 hours of cooking, and 2 days of curing which also counts as cooking.
You should say about as much as you cook something like salad, or as much as a PB&J
Hey man... I'm stealing this
@@Jordy_Joestar-ub1qw you may rent it for $1
IF its baked rolls then you're right they did cook
12 minutes into the debate and goofy goober sounds like he’s on the verge of tears
I've watched a lot of his streams, he kinda always sounds like this.
"how they banned a woman who was taking picture in the bathroom" LOL bro what? isn't it known that it is never okay to film or take photos in bathrooms, but especially locker rooms?
I would normally say this is true, but I also need some context. You shouldn't take pictures in the bathroom or locker room for other people's privacy, but if she was doing it to show there was a man in the women's restroom I kinda see where she's coming from. You should use your biologically correct bathroom no matter what you identify as. Dress how you want, be whatever you want, but understand that not everyone subscribes to that. Just cuz you want to be a woman doesn't mean you should go into the women's locker rooms.
Fr I didn’t even have to look for a reason, it’s common sense that you can’t take photos of people in the locker room. AND then post it/share it? That’s jail.
44:33 I think if his mother allowed him to play with her make-up kit that fateful day, he would be a much happier person
😭😭😭 or at least wasn’t overtly sexist to her young impressionable child💀
The sharing of this story that he thinks backs him up is really working against his point. Everyone on tv wears makeup, men and women. It’s common in some other countries for men to wear makeup to varying degrees as well. Every conservative talking head he likes wears makeup. Actors wear makeup too. Models wear makeup. He fails to understand there’s no actual rules, just social norms and expectations that change with the times. His mom likely just didn’t want him playing with her makeup and told him that short answer rather than give him a nuanced answer.
talking to people w this sort of mentality is so draining
The moment any reason or compassion hits their ear, it's like they go blank. If you prove them wrong, they'll literally just say "nu-uh" like a pathetic whiny child.
There's a reason "never debate an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level with experience" is a line that's more relevant than ever before
“Why does a boy have to wear a dress? There’s probably other girls out there that could wear dresses” sent me to another dimension.
if what Alice did here was cooking, we're gonna die of salmonella
I didn’t know Mr. favoritism was involved yesterday, I should’ve participated earlier
Toxic streamer really keeps coming back thinking he's winning in these situations when he really doesn't know how to talk in a debate. Its also amazing it was almost an hour of the toxic streamer just ranting and barely getting into topics of him harrassing people.
If there was a fallacy limit bro would've speed run himself into auto concession.😂
Hey Spooks! I'm a transman and I just want to say thank you. Having prominent cis male influencers like you being so passionate and standing up for the lgbtq+ community means more than words. Thank you thank you thank you. Fuck yea dude 🙏
☹️
The ironic part is that the guy is 100% lashing out because HE IS ALSO TRANS but won't accept it
its so real. im trans too and im glad that people like spook exist. tbh he is my fav content creator mostly because he can just speak up and he's not afraid of admiting that something is bad or something is not and he call out people who are harrasing others. not like some content creators over there who just say once a year 'um ya callking someone fa***t is bad' or other stuff like that or just say 'plz be nice to eachother' without anything else cuz they are scared they gonna lose viewers for defending lgbt people.
Smash
Be you, you're brave and amazing, guy 👦 👏
"what does that have to do with the LGBT community?"
"A woke school. A woke school."
"what does the school have to do with Gay or Trans?"
"You can't be this dumb"
Myers really stood there the whole time like “I seriously have to listen to this?”
as a trans person, just to be clear- HRT is not easily accessible to us ESPECIALLY if youre a minor. not a SINGLE person is getting forcefully transitioned at school. i know spooks chat and comment section is smart enough to know better but i just had to squash that one bc its such a wild claim
I’d also like to add that IF that was actually happening we’d damn well know about it already. How? Well there would be reports for abnormal amounts of blood being drawn, or we’d have cases of gravely sick kids (because without proper blood draws it’s unknown what your levels are so it’d be off putting them and effing you up) so like???? Idk man it’s a crazy take I’m ngl😭💀
omfg when he dropped the "why are you gay?" I couldn't breathe! The mans is so fucking delusional he went full meme! 😂😂😂😂
GG: "So you're telling me that [extremely normal thing that is normal] is normal?"
Spooks: "Yes."
GG: "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT???????"
*repeat ad infinitum*
Followed up by "IT'S COMMON SENSE SPOOKS!" as if saying that alleviates the amount of lunacy he's saying
@@MamaBearKS Because people don't understand what common sense means. They think it is a defense for their position, if it is common sense than everyone else is insane; but that not what common sense means. Because what he is saying isn't under common sense.
Omfg this dude is so deep in the goddamn closest jesus
funny to hear them seethe it's like a chihuahua. Hopefully they can come out some day and actually be happy lmfao
Duder is straight up in narnia at this point
3 continents deep in Narnia
oh thank god here it is
MY GOATTT
A wild Scott Jund appears?
Scott Jund shows up for the red carpet premier
Yo it's the Soy Jund!
Can I call you the Jundinator
He just outed himself as trans mid argument by his own logic. Does this guy ever think before speaking at all?
A scared animal often lashes out indiscriminately without thinking
Did you know dresses were invented for guys to ride horses easier plus heels were also invented for male style
nah not really the only thing unless u consider skirt a dress then yes but it wasnt just to ride horses easier it was to not constrict the legs depending on your occupation but most importantly it was a huge cultural thing in ancient times and nothing wrong with letting da marbles get some good ventilation.
Makes a lot of sense. It’s easier to mass produce skirts than pants for armies.
I love how he doesn’t realize that older cartoons “targeted towards children” had “woke” characters.
‘Him’ from powerpuff girls was an icon 😂
Bugs Bunny. Literally dresses in drag and kissed multiple male characters.
Ursula being inspired by an actual factual drag queen, Divine
EXACTLY!!@@darththeo
I'm sorry but I can not take this 31 YEAR OLD MAN seriously when he has this nasally of a voice 😭😭he sounds like he's on the brink of tears 24/7
I'm a man who likes to wear dresses and I'm not trans 🤣I cannot understand this guys logic at all. Thank you for making this video, spooks!
Your name is princessfreakydeaky. I think you have some unresolved issues lmao
Same!!
OMG THAT'S GREAT!!! what can of dresses? I'm curious now ❤
@AgussxVenus I love gothic dresses!!! My favorite dress I own is a remake of Misa Amane's dress from Death Note!
@@PrincessFreakyDeakyy I LOVE THAT DRESS 😍 gothic is truly the way to go, there's so many gorgeous options
This guys (the annoying one not spooks) argument boils down to “i don’t like it so it’s wrong” and when spooks rebukes that, he just says “it’s still weird”.
Also him crossing as Alice on an alt is VERRY telling
i feel my brain cells popping one by one anytime i hear that guy even open his mouth lmao
You can't debate idiots, when they can't drag you down and beat you with experience they will move the goalposts and taunt you for not reaching them.
"It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person" - Bill Murray
You cannot reason someone out of a position that they didn't reason themselves into.
Man, you are living RENT FREE in this guy's head
The only reason why pants were invented was to provide greater mobility and protection for people who rode horses. So technically it is weird for us to wear pants if we are not riding a horse.
I thought it was for miners who needed super rugged clothing
@@ShaggyTheClown17 Nope you can google it. Ancient Asian warriors (think around the time of the Mongolians) invented them for mobility on Horses while traveling and riding them into war.
@@OmenByDesign Was more so about it being invented within American history, before denim, during the wild west era cowboys wore wool trousers.
@@OmenByDesign Also the japanese had some BADASS armor.... made of PAPER.... but apparently it worked REALLY well O_o
In some ways
i thought this was gonna be a dbd debate then all of a sudden he starts going on about how much he hates trans people for no reason
Simple: Gender is a social construct. Gender is fluid. Sex is what he's referring to as "DNA" but sex does not necessarily equate to one's gender; what someone chooses to identify and express.
I hate how he's talking about "innocent children" not having "choice" with wearing dresses... Let kids explore instead of stifling their expression and exploration of the world with rigid, heteronormative* societal gender construct. Let kids have choice.
Him getting so busted over men wearing dresses when there are so many cultures that have men wear dress/skirt-like garments. Dude, they're comfortable as hell too. Would rather that then some jeans to fit societal expectations of being a "man" or whatever.
*Scots entered the chat*
You can say youre a woman all you want but you still don't reproduce like one.
Exactly. Even in his anecdote of being told he couldn’t wear make up because he’s a boy was forcing something on him.
I can’t even be mad at the guy for being so ignorant because he’s just so stupid. It’s like being mad at a newborn puppy for peeing on the carpet.
We had a teacher appreciation day at school and one of my male classmates dressed as a female teacher wearing a dress with tights, makeup, heels even tried to put a small clip in his hair like her. He was so proud that not only he look like her but out teacher even joked he looked better than she did lol. I dressed as the creepypasta Jeff the Killer for Halloween even tho I'm female and ppl loved my outfit. Some ppl just want to make problems where there doesn't need to b
I dress like a guy most of the time on Halloween because I typically go out alone and it feels a lot safer. People are nice and respectful when I do that, but feel very predatory towards me when I’m fem-presenting, even in completely appropriate costumes. I’m straight and AFAB if that’s relevant.
@@virtualgambit577 I'm a straight female in a wheelchair so I tend to gravitate to male clothes bc they seem to last longer than womens clothes not to mention men's clothes have more and better pockets so I don't drop things as easily. I grew up with 2 older brothers so I'm very much a tomboy at heart
@@Sp1tfire_5316 I’m a seamstress and this is 100% true, the men’s clothes are constructed better and use higher quality materials! They’re fantastic!
Omg hello fellow creepypasta friend
@Zombina638 glad to see a fellow creepypasta fan I thought I was the last one
"She was just innocently taking pictures of another woman minding her business in a changing room. She did nothing wrong!"
Did anyone tell them taking pictures without consent can be considered harassment?
@@aureliegilbert1523 In some places, it is illegal to take photos of someone in a place where they have an expectation of privacy (like a bathroom or changing room). Like seriously, "She did nothing wrong!" I laughed at that, and he thinks he possesses common sense.
Common sense is the most misused thing on the planet. Any time someone invokes it, it is always in a situation where common sense doesn't apply.
apparently it was a man, but.
The thing I have the biggest problem with is when people accuse the majority who don't play long of being the reason for these sorts unaliving themselves, I mean, if someone has to threaten to unalive themselves or others, or try to guilt trip people by saying they will to try and get people to do what they want.... You know what that's called? It's one of the T words and it was a VERY popular word in 2001.
and yea person shouldn't be taking pictures in the bathroom at all, if it was that much a problem there wouldn't be any words needed, flee and tell someone about it.
@ShaggyTheClown17 exactly, I swear people don't have working brains anymore
Wow I put on a dress once and it instantly changed my gender and mentality to trans. Thanks Alice.
Him saying that he dressed feminine is super telling lmao.
I honestly cringed the whole time.. his response and claims are just... So weak 😭 it hurts.
i did an ECE course and when i was on placements there was a little boy who absolutely loveddddd having dresses on and he loved to pretend to be elsa from frozen. he was soooo happy when he had his dress on, there was absolutely nothing wrong with boy wearing dresses as long and they are happy with it. this guy makes my brain smooth.
Is this the guy who screamed pronouns at starfield's son?
"I would listen to a guy who has common sense."
Well that rules you out, guy.
I'm only 11 mins in right now, but this man can't comprehend the difference between you telling people to move on because they're mad about how you played a game vs you calling people out for harassing behavior?? Critical thinking skills are at an all-time low for people who are too comfortable being vocal about the dumbest shit online
ALSO! This guy is clearly not working with a full set if he thinks he can say anything about your wife and child and you're just going to be cool with him. What a tool
Ain't that the truth! Sadly we can't argue with idiots we can just point and laugh and maybe if they can think outside of their preconceived notions they'll have the capacity to reflect and change
People don't understand what hypocrisy is. They ignore underlying differences to call two things the same.
He needs therapy or something. He surrounds himself with other incredibly toxic people (if you know his channel and have seen any of his recent streams, you know his main friend is just like him) and it’s clear he represses some part of himself. Part of me feels bad for him, the other part of me laughs at the time an Adam helped me mori him when I played Ghostface
all this anti trans hate against women like myself is crazy knowing that the dude cross dresses and uses a voice changer for his own entertainment.
"YOU'RE RAISING YOUR VOICE HIGHER THAN MINE!!!" - Mickey Mouse (probably)
"I'm not running away"
*immediately runs away*
It gets worrying the fact this level of delusion is normalized, how people practically ignore everything besides the things they despise. It's exhausting and I would know given before I realized I was trans I thought almost identically like this guy but then realized "Wow I'm really dumb for believing this bs that these hateful people say".
Also sitting through all this was worth it just for this part alone OMG 51:59
Crazy how this guy genuinely thought to himself “hmmm I’ve already embarrassed myself debating this guy once…. Let me do it again”
This dude is like a far right reddit psyop, a meme in real life
God this dude's voice is grating. How he has ANY following is a miracle.
pretty sure he just has hate followers and a couple people who are exactly like him so they can't make any other friends. When he sent his chat to harass me on stream, like two people from his stream were on his side and like ten were on mine (I am a 1 viewer Andy, so they all came from his stream)
if projecting was a human
Bro is the most insecure human on the planet
Ty for making your community a safe space for people in the lgbtqia+ community spooks
@@Antbrat4.0 No, sorry, you must have us confused with the Catholic church
what is the a
@@elacolyte1983 asexual
@@elacolyte1983 asexual/aromantic/agender
@@elacolyte1983asexual
“GOD NO I DONT WATCH YOUR VIDEOS” 😂😂😂😂 he’s hopping from delusion to delusion so fast he cant keep track. Good on you spooks for dealing with this for so long ❤
There was still no debating DBD with this guy. Maybe debate three will finally get around to it... If the clown wants to embarress themselves again.
I shouldnt be surprised that theres literally no dbd in the dbd debate, but i still was a little shook. As a trans man, thank you Spook for defending the community against bigots like this who hate just because we exist
Words can't hurt you 😂😂
@@TheDsRequiem why are you subtly siding with goofy goober in a lot of comments? You're looking kinda silly lil bro
@@TheDsRequiemwords CAN hurt you according to SCOTUS. Hate speech, threats, incitement… all criminal. Because words CAN hurt people and drive people to act.
@@TheDsRequiem words are the precursor to actions which can hurt people. People with this guy's mindset can and have hurt innocent people because they don't align with their beliefs
@@TheDsRequiemyou Boogie’s alt or something?
Thank you so much for pointing out that just because a parent raises you a certain way, doesn't mean you are that way. This was very warming to hear. I grew up in a VERY conservative and Baptist family; I am neither of those things now and the interacts I have with that family don't happen. I haven't spoken with them in over 15 years. Thank you, thank you, thank you SO much for sticking up for children and adults to become their own people and make their own informed decisions in life.
This person was off his rocker and I do hope that he finds the help he needs in life so that he isn't so hateful towards others.
Fun fact, Colin Mochrie has a trans daughter, and he loves her.
i'm a trans man and really appreciate how vocal you are in support for trans people, jukes. most content creators are really ambivalent or quiet about it and its disheartening.
As someone who’s a goofy goober,we do not claim him
As another member of the goofy goobers I second this statement
When the debate is a therapy session..
Pov Michael the entire debate listening to this guy's nonsensical points: 😐😐😐
Bro had the chance to make a few fantastic points, but he couldn’t articulate the color of a pumpkin with a gun to his head
Yeah it’s not like spooks is an amazing debate lord, he slips up bc he is honest and not manipulative. The juxtaposition of him talking to boogie who is manipulative and argues in bad faith is so frustrating lol
What
That's how you know you're powerful making someone leave the debate and end their stream just with your words
As a parent myself, my 3 year old has their own mind. Thats the fuckin truth.
I'm guessing that he doesn't realize that until like the past 100yrs boys did wear dresses.... It was just a sales propaganda so clothing companies sold more clothes by separating genders with types of clothes and colors.
Spook, is this man seriously just a brick or you got him on the payroll to act this stupid? 😂 😂 😂
Im so pissed i missed the stream 😭😭 this boutta be cinema judging from the title
Bro, I forgot about this dude. That's crazy that he's STILL this childish
Hello! Daycare provider here: I have a boy in my class that enjoys playing dress up and will ask me to help them put on a Princess Tiana costume. He enjoys wearing it and pretending he’s a fairy. I will never understand people who will see it as “inappropriate” or “abuse”. If the child asks to play pretend and wants to wear a dress why do we have to gender code things? Why do these people stress themselves out with stressing for strangers. They’re the cause of their own depression imo.
Not even 20seconds in and I already know how this is going to go fuuuuccckkk 🤣
Bro casually drops 1hr video on 1am on Wednesday, true spooky lore 🗣️🗣️🔥
31:36 "Why are you gay?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This was absolutely painful to hear. You can't debate people like this. I used to be friends with someone like this (actually even more extreme than this guy) that i watched fall down into a hole like this and no matter how much common sense and proof that I gave this person, they always would go back to 'just because' explanations. Can't debate/talk to guys like this.
“It was a skit” WHAAAAAAAAAA had me ROLLING 😂😂😂
My boy doesn't know the definition of a "hypocrite" 💀
This guy literally sounds like "☝️🤓"
This dude..
Spooks idek how you do it, these debates are crazy!!
the first person between a male and female to wear a dress was a male
This guy's entire morals and beliefs are based off of a first word reaction to something. He has absolutely no critical thinking skills at all. He is completely unable to look inward at himself and his own beliefs. He doesn't have a reason for thinking the way he does. He just thinks he's right because it's "common sense," and that's enough for him. It's genuinely sad and embarrassing to witness a man like this attempt to argue why he believes what he does, and not being able to give more than one or two flimsy reasons for how bigoted he is. There are millions of people just like this guy, and that's pretty disheartening.
Genuinely feel bad for this dude, you can tell he's projecting. No actually I don't feel bad.
He’s against it cause he knew he wouldn’t be accepted by his parents
Holy shit, I want to debate him next! My ego could really use the boost, LOL>
I would'nt recommend it you might lose something more important... your braincells 😅
@Yalador not to mention sanity and patience. I would lose both within minutes and I'm usually a very patient person.
@@Awesometrax i can listen to a person ramble about all kinds of stuff for hours... i barely got through the video, says alot 🤣
@Yalador same. I got through two other cringe debate vids that were posted on this channel but this guy in particular just makes my blood boil.
Let's be real Spooks, this man ain't reproducing
These debate videos play out like an Ace Attorney case I swear. Spooks being Phoenix Wright wrecking these fools to the point they have a breakdown