The Enduro Veloce looks to be an excellent bike, and something which will be (would've been) a cash-cow for them. It's clearly a clever competitor to the BMW GS money-making machine. It has the same draw as the GS: Offers the same top status and comfort, but is not a direct competitor (that would be foolish). Instead it offers differentiation for those who are slightly younger than their years and want more sportiness than the GS offers. Above all the engine is a great alternative as the GS 2-cyl boxer is agricultural and tractor-like compared to the far more refined, sophisticated and sporty triple. It therefore offers a bike for the same segment, but offers something better and what the BMW can't offer in order to actually snag some sales.
I'd want MV Agusta to make an even lighter, ~500cc super-fun naked below the Dragster not because I want a cheaper bike but because I want a less powerful bike so I can wring it out more on modern totalitarian and restricted roads. The 800 is so fast you spend 99% of the time holding yourself back at less than half throttle. Don't make it cheaper either, just add more exotic materials to make it a super-light legendary riding machine similar to the old 2-stroke Aprilia RS250. Actually make the engine a modern 250cc 3-cylinder direct injection 2-stroke!
@@kennedyracing7527 Based on what? KTM doesn't have an engine like MV has. KTM doesn't have the quality, details, materials of the same level as MV does. Did you seriously try to use your grey matter at all before writing that comment?
Yeah they should have put a 19 on this. 99% will keep this bike on the road. The other 1% will go some gravel road and even less will do gnarly enough trails to need a 21 inch.
You have to be beyond lacking in IQ to claim that no-one buys top-shelf sporty touring enduros. One of the least intelligent, most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Hey squid: it's the market segment which sells the most bikes (in value)!
@@kugangles9860 How many of bikes in this category are ridden off-road? But how many customers want go buy bikes that aren't Paris-Dakar-capable in the brochure? Wise up and try to understand that your knee-jerk comment is based on nothing.
They need to give buyers the choice, it's really quite simple but no one does it. Honda should be offering the 19 or 21 on the new Adventure Sport. Let the buyers choose, surely they would sell more or am I the odd one out again?
Should I opt for an Enduro Veloce or a Multistrada V4s? Although I haven't experienced the Veloce firsthand, I believe I would prefer the Multistrada V4s or Rally.
I owned a Yamaha Tracer 900. People, like myself, have been wondering why Yamaha doesn’t put that engine in a T7 chassis. Well, looks like MV jumped in that gap with Triumph. Love the triple!
Maybe a comfy setup of the 800 brutale? Kinda touring one..without losing the sporty part. As you said it doesn't handle well on the dirt which is also seen on the slow-mo. If you dare to get in the dust and mud of course. Thanks for sharing!
Damn 4 year warranty is a big thing for me. I got a street triple rs over an mt09 sp because of the warranty and a few other things but triumphs 2 year no mileage warranty is 👍👍
Call me a luddite but I couldn't justify spending premium money for a plethora of electronics. I can barely remember how to adjust the clock twice a year on my 11 year old Speedy. Just me? I really like Carls reviews.
Had a mv turismo veloce. Lovely bike and grate fun. This enduro veloce looks decent. Engine sounds lovely but it’s just to expensive £21k can’t see them selling many.
Yea that was a little fragmented review. Not sure what to think. One thing is for sure , that's the biggest can I've ever seen. It's huge. It has its own weather system.. Hopefully dealer network will improve. But it is a good looking bike aside from the can. And I think it has a pretty good engine. I just don't think they have everything together . Best!
......the mention of quick shifter, I have it fitted to my Tiger 900GT Pro, I have looked for info on the correct way to use it, yet I can see no real info on the use of. I sometimes release throttle, and have also held throttle when changing up.....any answers?
Looks like the Multistrada and the Pan America had a lovechild. A little disappointing looks wise considering how MV has made a name for beautifully detailed design pieces. Sounds like a beast though!
While the engines are very different why on earth would anyone get this over the new Stelvio? I mean, you get the Italian thing and it doesn’t have a face like an old lady’s glasses.
Just 8 years ago that £9,999 is now worth about £13,200, not that far off what an MT10 costs brand new today, especially given how much better the tech on it is... This bike is not worth 21k that's a fact, just as the Ducati DesertX isn't worth 16k, this is trying to do what the 890 Adventure already does for 12k and the 890 absolutely smashes this.
Such a balldrop.. the whole poit with an adv bike is as good offroad ability and milemuncher as possible. They shuld do a sprttstourer or gt instead with that exiting motor
Love the sound but no semi active suspension, no steering damper , a range of lower than 200 miles and £21k ? I mean what are these marketing people studying these days? Is the motorcycling community considered this stupid?
Australians are looking at the helmet placed on the ground like that, expecting it to be full of bull ants, green ants and hunstman spiders when he puts it on. Hilarity ensues.
Seems the MV is trying to align this bike with the top line BMW GS and Ducati Multistrada v4 to justify the excessively high price. The Ducati Multistrada V2 and the new Moto Guzzi Stelvio are closer competitors, and thousands of dollars less.. Nice bike, good to see MV getting its feet on firm ground, but not worth what they are asking.
I like the concept of a triple trail bike but not this result. Too expensive, too heavy. Not as capable for touring nor for off-road as other less expensive bikes.
With your lying ass. He critiques it a few times. A bit too thirsty, buzzy, runs out of breath up top, criticizes off road modes as being too abrupt, No Electronic suspension "would go to at last. It's 21 grand. It's quite heavy." Why don't you stop making stuff up, man?
@@waylonsmitherzthe irony of being called a troll in the most aggressive and personal way, just for having an opinion. If you don’t like it, move along and read the next comment instead. Troll.
So its not an adventure bike? And not a tourer? And not a street bike? Yea this thing is dead on arrival unless people just want branding. Edit: also ridiculously expensive. Yeah this thing isn't gonna sell.
So, Didn't Honda just abandon this design with the outgoing Adventure sports? That's the most comparable IMO. Hmmm Love the triple, However again I think the packaging was missed. When they have been pushing the lucky strike style that really told use it was going to focus more toward the dirty side and then they delivered another high priced Ducati wanna be. The market will be small and I think they will have difficulty finding that many dealers unfortunately. This will be an elitist Starbucks queen. Maybe even an over priced chain drive Super Tenere. Bummer. Youve done well to paint the picture pretty grim.
What do you make of MV Agusta building an adventure bike? What else would you like to see the brand build?
The Enduro Veloce looks to be an excellent bike, and something which will be (would've been) a cash-cow for them. It's clearly a clever competitor to the BMW GS money-making machine. It has the same draw as the GS: Offers the same top status and comfort, but is not a direct competitor (that would be foolish).
Instead it offers differentiation for those who are slightly younger than their years and want more sportiness than the GS offers. Above all the engine is a great alternative as the GS 2-cyl boxer is agricultural and tractor-like compared to the far more refined, sophisticated and sporty triple. It therefore offers a bike for the same segment, but offers something better and what the BMW can't offer in order to actually snag some sales.
I'd want MV Agusta to make an even lighter, ~500cc super-fun naked below the Dragster not because I want a cheaper bike but because I want a less powerful bike so I can wring it out more on modern totalitarian and restricted roads. The 800 is so fast you spend 99% of the time holding yourself back at less than half throttle. Don't make it cheaper either, just add more exotic materials to make it a super-light legendary riding machine similar to the old 2-stroke Aprilia RS250. Actually make the engine a modern 250cc 3-cylinder direct injection 2-stroke!
Should stick with overpriced sport bikes and let KTM build AV bikes
@@kennedyracing7527 Based on what? KTM doesn't have an engine like MV has. KTM doesn't have the quality, details, materials of the same level as MV does. Did you seriously try to use your grey matter at all before writing that comment?
@@pistonburner6448 not true have you seen the quality on components on the new 1390 Duke. Plus the cost is extreme buy a Ducati DesertX or MultiV4
Decent review. An expensive road bike with a 21 up front. An answer to a question that no one asked.
Yeah they should have put a 19 on this. 99% will keep this bike on the road. The other 1% will go some gravel road and even less will do gnarly enough trails to need a 21 inch.
You have to be beyond lacking in IQ to claim that no-one buys top-shelf sporty touring enduros. One of the least intelligent, most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Hey squid: it's the market segment which sells the most bikes (in value)!
@@kugangles9860 How many of bikes in this category are ridden off-road? But how many customers want go buy bikes that aren't Paris-Dakar-capable in the brochure? Wise up and try to understand that your knee-jerk comment is based on nothing.
They need to give buyers the choice, it's really quite simple but no one does it. Honda should be offering the 19 or 21 on the new Adventure Sport. Let the buyers choose, surely they would sell more or am I the odd one out again?
Its very easy to relace or swap to a 19. Meanwhile, i will turn inside of your curmudgeon ass on my ktm with a 21 knobby up front.
Also, would love to see a turismo veloce using this new platform. And please, dear God, please MV: be reliable 🙏
Excuse me I think there's been a mistake, I ordered the large end can?! Lol.
Should I opt for an Enduro Veloce or a Multistrada V4s? Although I haven't experienced the Veloce firsthand, I believe I would prefer the Multistrada V4s or Rally.
I don't understand how it looks the most like a Desert X, to me it's an Africa Twin inspired MV...
It makes sense since both this and the desert x are evolutions of the cagiva elefant
I owned a Yamaha Tracer 900. People, like myself, have been wondering why Yamaha doesn’t put that engine in a T7 chassis. Well, looks like MV jumped in that gap with Triumph. Love the triple!
Looks remind me a bit my Multistrada 1260 Enduro... Not sure I have ever seen a MV in the wild here is the US
Maybe a comfy setup of the 800 brutale? Kinda touring one..without losing the sporty part. As you said it doesn't handle well on the dirt which is also seen on the slow-mo. If you dare to get in the dust and mud of course. Thanks for sharing!
Thorough and balanced perspective. Most helpful. Thanks!
Good review. I appreciate the frank comments re: off-road. Isn't the Triumph 900 Rally Pro a natural comparison? ~$25K US and made where?
Great review brother 👊
Are MV familiar with the phrase pissing into the wind…….just asking 🤣
Imagine going on an adventure with this bike and getting stuck in the middle of nowhere thanks the MV's reliability lol.
The Turismo Veloce with this engine will hopefully be fantastic!
Damn 4 year warranty is a big thing for me. I got a street triple rs over an mt09 sp because of the warranty and a few other things but triumphs 2 year no mileage warranty is 👍👍
Over here Yamaha is a five year warranty deal as long as you keep on top of the maintenance, made me chose them over Triumph (2 years).
Ducati have a 4 year unlimited mileage warranty in the UK
Call me a luddite but I couldn't justify spending premium money for a plethora of electronics. I can barely remember how to adjust the clock twice a year on my 11 year old Speedy. Just me? I really like Carls reviews.
Yeah I’ve still not change over in the Tracer. Maybe these fancy ones change themselves over though?
Moto Guzzi Stelvio and Honda Arfica Twin made a baby.
Had a mv turismo veloce. Lovely bike and grate fun. This enduro veloce looks decent. Engine sounds lovely but it’s just to expensive £21k can’t see them selling many.
Who makes tubed spoke wheels in 2024? And for that price? Seriously?
The mv style paint scheme looks very nice
You have the best job.
Excellent advert, hope MV paid you well
Yea that was a little fragmented review. Not sure what to think. One thing is for sure , that's the biggest can I've ever seen. It's huge. It has its own weather system.. Hopefully dealer network will improve. But it is a good looking bike aside from the can. And I think it has a pretty good engine. I just don't think they have everything together . Best!
Looks so much like a Super Tenere with a little Africa Twin mixed in. For the money I’d just buy both of those slightly used and save a few grand.
try putting a sheeps skin or similar on the seat, usualy fixes any problem you have with hard seats
That will make it look great. 😂😂
@@BIGGGESTAL doesnt have to look bad at all, its just a small pice right on the seat
@@BIGGGESTAL Yup, then don't forget the bright yellow hi-viz vest!! 🤣🤣🥸
😂😂😂
Really nice video and review
......the mention of quick shifter, I have it fitted to my Tiger 900GT Pro, I have looked for info on the correct way to use it, yet I can see no real info on the use of. I sometimes release throttle, and have also held throttle when changing up.....any answers?
Closed throttle changing down, open throttle changing up. Simple
For £21k, the bike needs to be 50kg lighter.
How easy is it to change the air filter? If it’s meant for off road it needs to have easy access to it
Looks like the Multistrada and the Pan America had a lovechild. A little disappointing looks wise considering how MV has made a name for beautifully detailed design pieces. Sounds like a beast though!
While the engines are very different why on earth would anyone get this over the new Stelvio? I mean, you get the Italian thing and it doesn’t have a face like an old lady’s glasses.
I hope the new Stelvio sells well because it's awesome
Great looking bike with good spec but no shaft drive, I'll stick with my GSA!
Might be a new Bond movie in the future featuring this bike.
I really can't get used to new bike prices, just 8 yrs ago an MT-10 was £9.999 otr.
£21k for this bike makes my eyes bleed
Just 8 years ago that £9,999 is now worth about £13,200, not that far off what an MT10 costs brand new today, especially given how much better the tech on it is...
This bike is not worth 21k that's a fact, just as the Ducati DesertX isn't worth 16k, this is trying to do what the 890 Adventure already does for 12k and the 890 absolutely smashes this.
4:40 sounds like my 125 at this point 😂😂
Such a balldrop.. the whole poit with an adv bike is as good offroad ability and milemuncher as possible. They shuld do a sprttstourer or gt instead with that exiting motor
It's not going to be £21,800 it's going to be a bargain £21,600!! 😂. What a waste of money.
Nice status symbol!
Génial ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Love the sound but no semi active suspension, no steering damper , a range of lower than 200 miles and £21k ? I mean what are these marketing people studying these days? Is the motorcycling community considered this stupid?
Many times the issue is not the marketing department but the leadership. Most times I would say.
When it comes to purchasing premium Italian bikes I’d say the answer is a loud “yes”
Watching your video (and hearing) gives the impression that I'm seeing a motorcycle movie when you see a monocilinder with a 4 in-line sound ! Cool !😂
Much like the recent 990 duke, I cannot see this bike making any sense, especially at its price point.
Australians are looking at the helmet placed on the ground like that, expecting it to be full of bull ants, green ants and hunstman spiders when he puts it on. Hilarity ensues.
Seems the MV is trying to align this bike with the top line BMW GS and Ducati Multistrada v4 to justify the excessively high price. The Ducati Multistrada V2 and the new Moto Guzzi Stelvio are closer competitors, and thousands of dollars less.. Nice bike, good to see MV getting its feet on firm ground, but not worth what they are asking.
I think it looks terrible with the low seat and the enormous front area. But that goes for most bikes in that class.
If I didn't know how much this bike cost, I wouldn't say it was 21 thousand pounds. That exhaust is a hideous thing.
Guys. You know this: the best sounding motorbike you can buy today will always be an aprilia v4. Ok now we can move on.
Orgasta?
12 Dealers in the UK certainly won't be enough to riders happy.
Imagine taking it on tour and it has a fault. Tour over
Sad to see it has lost all of the MV quirks…
I'm surprised at the styling. Looks more Chinese than Italian.
The idiocy of these comments is astounding. Not a single brain cell among you squids.
Like it but too expensive for what it is
Too expensive.
I like the concept of a triple trail bike but not this result. Too expensive, too heavy. Not as capable for touring nor for off-road as other less expensive bikes.
Downvoted for censorship in the comments section.
Come on Agusta hardly anyone will be taking this on trails that warrants a 21 inch front. Should have put a 19 on it.
Sounds like a 2 wheel Ferrari
Why
Not for me way too expensive 😢😢
WTF, 21k!!! who will actually buy one of these? You would be looking over a GS,ktm adventure,Multistrada,desert x and numerous others.
Another review full of hyperbole and clichés. Might as well just be reading the MV marketing material.
With your lying ass.
He critiques it a few times. A bit too thirsty, buzzy, runs out of breath up top, criticizes off road modes as being too abrupt, No Electronic suspension "would go to at last. It's 21 grand. It's quite heavy."
Why don't you stop making stuff up, man?
Troll.
He disparaged this bike damn near a dozen times. What the hell are you on?
@@waylonsmitherzthe irony of being called a troll in the most aggressive and personal way, just for having an opinion. If you don’t like it, move along and read the next comment instead. Troll.
2:46 - I'll do you one better, I can sum it up it in one word: nope.
Looks very generic to me. If it'd said CFMoto or Benelli on the tank, I wouldn't have been surprized. Doesn't have any of that MV wow factor.🤷♂
Shame it's goppin' to look at....
It sure doesn’t look that good sitting in the grass there. Bit blocky and bland TBH. 😕
Yawn, just another overpriced touring bike.
It looks like a Honda.
its laughable to think of someone riding a oversized lump like this in a enduro race
That is not how you pronounce Agusta
…or spell it
@@neevesybikes true
So its not an adventure bike? And not a tourer? And not a street bike? Yea this thing is dead on arrival unless people just want branding.
Edit: also ridiculously expensive. Yeah this thing isn't gonna sell.
They can't enter this segment thats for sure, actually they failed in every segment 👍
I will not buy it for half the price
Dude is in the wrong profession. It's not called 'MV Ogasta'. Think before you talk.
So, Didn't Honda just abandon this design with the outgoing Adventure sports? That's the most comparable IMO. Hmmm Love the triple, However again I think the packaging was missed. When they have been pushing the lucky strike style that really told use it was going to focus more toward the dirty side and then they delivered another high priced Ducati wanna be. The market will be small and I think they will have difficulty finding that many dealers unfortunately. This will be an elitist Starbucks queen. Maybe even an over priced chain drive Super Tenere. Bummer. Youve done well to paint the picture pretty grim.
Wow, another brainiac trying to use his noggin and failing.
crap bike
Also, would love to see a turismo veloce using this new platform. And please, dear God, please MV: be reliable 🙏
Much too expensive.