SAILBOAT UPGRADE: Replacing Our Old & Rusty Anchor Chain
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2018
- Our anchor chain on our sailboat is old, rusty and starting to jump the gypsy. So, this is a why, how and what we replaced it with vid. If you have extra tips on anchor chain and what manufacture you think makes the best, please let us know!
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We were having some chain jumping issues that we couldn't sort out. We thought it was the windlass, the gypsy, user error, who knows! Turns out it might be our chain.
In true Wynns fashion we figured "well, we gotta do the dirty work so we might as well share the experience."
Grab your work gloves, put on your overalls and hit that play button.
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Lots of similar questions and comments so I'll try to tackle them all here!
Bad Husband: As many of you pointed out I should be in the dog house for saying the chain is the best looking thing on the boat...I should have said the second best...after Nikki, of course!
Stretched Chain: The chain was original to the boat and from what we've read the life is generally 7-15 years depending on use. I never thought about stretching, but I'm sure it's possible. Thanks for the tip.
Dancers: Funny enough they were photo bombing us and we had no idea till I was editing the video. It was hilarious because it's as if they knew exactly what we were saying! When we mentioned them they came out, then we talk about going to PC with them and they start dancing again! OMG it was so much fun to watch as I was editing.
Old Chain: Sadly there's no scrap yard to sell the chain to. We only stayed at the marina for 2 nights so there was no time to sell it to a fellow cruiser. So we gave it to the marina to use. It's a bummer but our hands were tied.
Gypsy: We did purchase a new gypsy and had my mom bring it out when she came to help us transit the canal (that's the next video in our series). Our old gypsy is in good shape and I'm keeping it for a backup. For those that wonder it is marked 3/8 HT.
Anchor Line: The line is NOT old, we replaced it less than 1 year ago and it's only been in the water twice. We're hoping it is still flexible enough to splice, but splicing such an important line is a bit scary for us. Please know we're practicing splicing and hope to have enough practice to splice this line soon.
Temporary Shackle: The shackle is only temporary to get the chain on the boat. I realize the shackle will not work with the windlass, and I also realize the shackle needs seizing wire if it were to stay...but it's only temporary so there's no reason to fuss with it.
Anchor Swivel: We're using the Mantus Anchor swivel. As far as I know it's made to grab two chain links for extra security. It's worked well for us.
Gone with the Wynns... Just an fyi. West marine has a new CEO that is changing the way they do business.. They are price matching Amazon now.. I will still do the bulk of my ordering from Amazon for my boating needs as I can wait for what I need as I'm currently holding down my 9-5. Also I can usually save on taxes buying from Amazon..
The "stretching" comes more from the links wearing where they touch. As the steel wears the distance from link to link increases which is another way of saying that the pitch increases. Now all the links do not fit down into the receptacles of the gypsy but some ride high and the chain slips when the load is heavy.
What Paul said :)
Your friends made my day with that dance in the background :)) Love your content, keep it coming!
Oh my word I laughed so hard I old man coughed. Lol
Those dancing fools need their own YT channel!
Rufus & Kate are hilarious in the background! hahaha
My coffee spurted out through my nose at 1:20 Ha ha ha
I agree with you....They probably never intended it this way, but, I had to rerun the movie from the time they started their antics because, I totally missed Jason`s diatribe...lol.....These guys have the BEST video/documentary on this platform...PERIOD. Oh....And cheers from chilly Wyoming.....We are supposed to have about -20 come Thursday, 2-10-21....I just started watching these sailing videos about 3 months ago...Then I found THE WYNN`S....
As an old metalworker i can say that old chain was absolutely stuffed. the links were stretched and had severe wear on the edges which would make the chain slip and jump on the teeth of the gypsy all the time. it wasn't that far off of breaking plus your gypsy has a lot of wear as well and should be replaced plus you need to learn how to splice rope as it will come in very handy on your boat. dont forget that when you replace your gypsy get the one that is made for your chain as they are matched in size to chain size.just a small note:- you will fall in love with the pacific region it is absolutely amazing.
Much as I think your adventures are fantastic and your enthusiam is great, when somebody says I wouldn't recommend this and then goes ahead and does it, they are just asking for trouble. It would have been so much easier to ask your fellow boaters if anybody knows how to splice, that way you could learn. You also need to look at the tools you are using to understand how to use them. The calipers you were using have a automatic inch to mm button, it is the yellow button on the top of the read out. So all you had to do was to push it to get inches. The 'pokey' wire is not 'seizing' wire, it is safety wire or locking wire and it serves a very definite saftey purpose. It locks the nuts into a position that prevents it from backing off the bolt and causing failure.
Shortest video in a while!!! BUT, your friends more than made up for it!!! Great friends! Apparently in good shape also!!
Oh that Video BOMB of the dancing couple is gold... LoL...
Tell your friends I said thanks for making me spit up my coffee from laughing!
Rufus and Kate dancing on cue was great, gotta love 'em.
So excited to see how the new chain does - it looks sooooo much better. The background dancing was hilarious :) :) :)
This video was off the chain!
Jason, you are truly a jack of all trades. I am so excited about your crossing through the Panama Canal. Just before you entered into the first lock, there is a U.S Army base on the left called Fort Davis. That's where I was born 71 years ago. I left when I was 2 years old and have never been back. I followed your route through the Canal using Google Earth, and that's when I saw how Fort Davis was within shouting distance of the first lock. Many fans of this channel are chomping at the bit to see your Canal crossing and your adventures in the Pacific. Stay safe.
Never sailed. But your videos are so entertaining, I enjoy watching your good and some bad experiences you guys have. Keep them coming. I started watching you since you started RVing. I'm hooked.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who bought chain, but I must admit that I didn't buy that much! =) Oh, and splicing is easy-peasy once you watch a splicing video here on youtube.
Excellent advice on chain to rode attachment. Liked the close up of the swivel. Sail on!
Rufus and Kate photo bomb lol. Can't wait for the canal. Great job Jason.
All these videos that show your tasks/trials/tribulations helps to alleviate the nervousness I experience at considering becoming a live-aboard yachtie. Huge props to you both! ❤️
Your friends in the background are a riot!! I have been very impressed with some of the equipment on your Leopard. Lofran windlass is in my opinion the gold standard of deck hardware. Take care of it and it will always serve you well.
Love watching you guys! Poured my coffee, got all cuddled up, and boom, it was already over!! Can't wait till next week. Feel free to make really long videos!! Lol!
ditto
ditto the ditto
movin up to the Triple D(itto)
OK so you had me Excited at " Jumping the Gypsie ".
Guys did the appearance of the chain not give it away or are you becoming complacent about some of the items of service.
Please don`t think I am having a go at you but like a squeaky wheel we tend to ignore it because we know it is a squeaky wheel that is until it falls off. Some times a different set of eyes can see things that you are overlooking.
Perhaps ask your friends on the other cat to " Asses "your boat and make a list of what they find that they would fix if the boat was theirs. [ different eyes different perspective ].
Thanks for the vid.
Fair Winds and Following Seas.
Can`t wait to see you in the BIG Ocean. So much to see.
David. Down Under.
Time for an upgrade. That Leopard 58 in the background looks pretty sweet! More subscribers, more sponsors, more, more, more....
Love my Sunday fix! Thank you!
A little bit bigger than we wanted!
I loved the dancing in the background. Just like a couple of kids trying to get someone's attention. haha That was great. Glad that you found out what the problem was with the chain. Stay safe and happy adventuring. Getting excited for the crossing of the canal. Joyce
Joyce Barnett I didn't catch that till the second time I watched the video. XD
BAHAHA..... totally photo bombed by some crazy kids smacking their ass!!!
My husband and I LOVE you guys!! Your adventures make us plan for the future when our children are grown. Can't wait to be able to travel ALL. THE. TIME.!!!!!
Yep, another good one. I'm looking forward to the canal video.
I'm actually marathoning your whole sailing playlist! I'm up to the part of being in the Bahamas and this new vid just popped up!
It was exciting to see you buying your cat for the first time!!
What a world of a difference the new chain makes. Glad you replaced it. Expensive but not much else you can do. Happy Sailing.
The friends in the background was great. Great job on the chain guys. Good luck through the canal.
Well done guys!
Rufus and kate are in good shape thats a lot happy dancing
Love the photo bomb!!!
I love these chore videos. Even the little things become an adventure. And seeing the boat get slowly upgraded feels like leveling up in a video game. New chain: +2 to stability in anchorage.
Rufus and Kate are the best!! Good luck with your chain!
Nice to get some boat parts replacement info, thanks!
Keep sailing!
Exact same thing happened on a Leopard 47 we were on. It wasn't that the chain stretched, but that its diameter decreased from rust and corrosion not allowing it to fit tightly in the wheel madohicky. New chain fixed the problem beautifully. Expensive but worth it on ground tackle.
Well done, you guy's have come a long way from your flat tire in Alaska video, im impressed.
Omg that background dance intro was epic!!! 🙌💪
We love you two! Been watching since our RV /skoolie researching phase. NOW we just want to be you when we grow up!
i love the video's. great work with the chain.check out [Roll with it] video's
KJ is so beautiful Scotts pretty sexy to
This is definitely a 'how to do" rather than a "how not to do" Jason. Nice work guy's!
So excited for the crossing!
Having operated a company that replaces all sizes of chain for moorings, we found that there is more than rust that will thin the links. Electrolysis also eats away at chain, especially after the galvanized layer is gone. Your friends gave you a great clue, and very funny as well! Loved the clowning in the background!
I know.... I have my coffee, my puppy and was getting a settled to watch my weekly fix. Then it was all done - so fast. Your friends were cracking me up. I would love to see how you stock up on supplies and getting ready for the crossing. Thank guys for the great videos.
Ok, just have to add one thing. The wire is called "Safety Wire" used to prevent nuts and bolts from un-screwing. And safety wire the shackle, Lost a nice Danforth from a shackle coming loose.
always great to see you guys at it!
Another great DIY from Jason and Nikki! Very cool! So glad you satisfied the gypsy before she started screaming at cha!
I didn't even realize your friends were back there until I saw the text above them lol. Great video as always, keep it up Nikki and Jason! P.S., Cleo and Singa are the cutest!
Gotta have a good chain! Glad you guys are keeping your boat up. Enjoy the warm weather, it's snowing here in Colorado!
The new chain is nice enough, but Nikki is ALWAYS gonna be the best looking thing on Curiosity.
yes a major screw-up statement on Jason's part ,,, I think " Keel hauling " is in order :-)
It is possible that the old chain wasn't calibrated, or wasn't the right calibration for the gypsy. Also, my understanding is that 10mm has two different calibrations, DIN766 and ISO - at least that is in the UK. I think that USA calibrations are different still. Really important to get the chain and gypsy calibration to match. And your friends dancing in the background was brilliant - best photobomb ever.
Great video. At least your Gypsy didn’t have to get replaced too. I’m not too sure of the similarity between anchor chains and bike chains, but with bike chains we measure the distance between a set amount of links and then record that so we can see when a chain has stretched. You might research and see if applicable to anchor chain and record that somewhere. Thanks again. Good luck. Nice job!
1:42 got some legends back there
Great video. Really enjoy these problem solving videos!
Jason, you’ve come a long way since the composting toilet install in your RV. You’re so hands on now!
Doing splices on triple strand lines is pretty straightforward, and allows you to fix your own lines while away from port, and saves $$$$. No special tools needed. (some whipping cord is nice to have have on hand)
With some basic tools (awls, fids, etc) you can also work on single and double braid lines.
(if you want some really sweet anchor chain, price out some stainless)
Those friends are amazing!!!
Wow chain is expensive ...I had no idea. Thank you for sharing and be safe .
You want expensive, price out some stainless chain.
Fantastic! So interesting! Learning every day!
gosh you can even make the mundane entertaining, happy trails guys
I actually really enjoy the boat work videos!
Nicely done! Looking forward to your trip across the canal to the Pacific...
Heat video. Would have been a good time to paint distance markers on the chain.
Great idea. I wonder if they have a digital counter of some sort that tells them what length of chain they use each time they anchor, though.
Agreed
They mentioned they have a counter.
Great job guys, appreciate all the helpful videos you put out. Keep up the good work!
Great video, thank you...I would have never thought it would have been the chain -good to know. :)
Yeah, the dancing duo in the background was hilarious!
Thanks for sharing!
Hi Jason and Nikki. I hope I don't bore you with technicalities here but the reason your chain was jumping may be explained as follows. It is not the thickness of the link (sort of) but the wear at the rubbing points of each link with its neighbour. This creates an increase in the link length (distance between link centres) from the standard. When the worn lengthened chain runs over the capstan the links do not quite fit in the capstan channel due to the increased link length and a small lump or loop or standing wave appears across the few links nested on the capstan. At some stage when the wear is too great the standing wave becomes large enough to dislodge the chain from the capstan. Hope that explains it. PS: Cheers and keep up the fantastic videos. Your the best on the net.
Hey guys I just wanted to give you a tip about your anchor. The Coupler you used has a hole in it to put a zip tie in to stop it from turning out on its own or some stainless wire you used at the anchor end. I have lost an anchor because i thought tightening it with a crescent wrench would be good enough but aver time it will come lose and fall out...
Crazy boat dancers in the background are funny!
Yip looking good. Never had to change an anchor chain, but you made it look quite easy and satisfying on completion.
Wish you mentioned chain issue in a previous videos .. in the cycling world, when chain starts slipping off crank or when shifting gears, it's an indication the chain has stretched and needs replacing .. glad you figured it out, though.
Fantastic video, great job👍
Also take a good look at the "sprocket" portion of the gypsy. That part that the chain wraps around. In the video, it looks worn also.
thanks for sharing. love your videos!
Hang onto those friends, they're the bomb.
If you measure say 10 links of the new chain when stretched tight and record that in your log book, you'll be able to measure it occasionally to see if the chain has stretched. This should tell you when your chain needs replacing before it becomes a serious problem..
Great idea!
Yes, diameter of the link isn't the big issue. The issue is wear in the end of the links where they contact each other causing the pitch of the chain to be longer than the pitch of the wheel pulling the chain. Measure that periodically and you will know where you stand. I would probably measure more than 10 links, but 10 may be adequate. I would use a yardstick and measure the number of links that is just shy of a yard. I would also measure the old chain to establish the wear limit.
Rustie good advice in measuring the length of your chain because as the chain wears it stretches, each individual link streaches and becomes elongated. this makes the overall length of your chain longert and the ink will no longer fit in the Gypsy causing the chain to jump.
Another great video, Wynns! I had to laugh when Jason made reference to West Marine at the 2:00 mark. I work for Samson Rope, and we sell a ton of our rec marine rope through them. Here's to hoping the new chain serves you two well!
Love the boat work videos!
Learn to splice your own ropes. start with a 3 ply rope and move up from there. once you have done it 2 or 3 times it becomes easy. there a few you tube videos out there. A spliced rope is a very strong, a rope with a knot is about a 1/3rd as strong.
Put some wire on that shackle pin and pvc tape. Hate to lose 250' of new chain because the shackle fell off.
Love your videos, fun and entertaining. Always look forward to the next one.
Nice job guy's
Just a suggestion - when you are removing lockwire just cut one side close to the pass through and the remainder slides right out - no need to try and pull or thread the whole length - saves time and skin punctures :-)
Ah, good start to my week seeing your latest video.
Great video!
Jason it’s not the outside that one should worry about on the wear ! The sides wear marginally. Have a look at the ends where the chain links touch the next link (on the insides). This is where the main wear of a chain is taking place. I have seen 16 mm chain where these ends are 6mm. This is also why it jumps the gypsy as the links are “longer” catching the separation part on the gypsy. Replaced mine the other day with a 80meter length as well. Mine was starting to jump a little but the dirty rust all over the anchor well was more irritating
Sorry, I missed that. I was distracted by the jumping people in the background. 😂
Hahahaha! Me too!!
3 legged dog, around 1 around 2 back around 3 roll in your hands to straighten it out and then you can see how it is done. I was a Boatwain mate in the USN, spliced line all the time. 3 strand is the easy one to do.
Good man!!!!! Always tie off big heavy stuff that might have the possibility of heading to the bottom...
Jason your very handy!
Good luck with the new chain.
Looking forward to the Panama canal video.
Cheers Bernie in Palm Springs
Nice to see you were wearing your safety construction flip flops during your chain change job....Enjoy your journey......
Great vid guys. I always enjoyed the DIY/fixing things vids. Cheers, Ted
“THE MAN” fixes everything! You the man!
yes, the chain is the issue. as it gets older the link connections start to wear, making the chain stretch at the connection points. That is why it jumps. So, a new chain is in order. make sure your get the best chain. I could tell just by looking at the chain.
Nice video thank you for sharing
Hey You Two,
Nothing like conditional based maintenance, you have to do it on anything you own. Hubby did a great job!
Be safe, have fun!
Hugs,
Sandy Livesay
Good info. Thanks
I like your boat work videos.
Hey, no "pulling my chain"jokes??...LOL
Great video guys!
HeHe....
Safe travels.
Couple thoughts-- Chain dimensions are critical with that winch, I used one for ten years and had a broken gear that I had fixed; There are places to regalvanize chain--We used Jacksonville, Fl. and finally in my opinion Defenders is the best for Help, service and reasonable prices== we spend over 5k there and that was 1983.
So Awesome 👌
hey you just press the button on the caliper and it will change from metric to imperial ( inches) . We have the technology !!! you should buy a caliper and keep it aboard .so that the correct diameter hose can be ordered etc etc a very handy tool love the adventure
Those people in the back are so funny 😂. Love your videos keep up the good work 😄
like the voice overs in this one