You probably know this already, but just as ancient people paint on walls in caves, they also painted on stones that they carried with them. Migratory people needed to travel lightly, so they found a way to put several images on one stone. It takes a while to learn, but if you take a close look at the rocks you will begin to see that every single one of them was brought to their present location by a human being. Can you see the photo realistic portrait on my avatar? We use Dstretch as well. Fantastic work, I love your passion. 👍
I enjoyed this triple today. Pictographs are always my favorites. Pictographs are awesome though. It seems there csn be some intuitive sense with some questions, such as water, farming, hunting maybe husbandry eith a few sheep? Water changes a lot over the centuries which leads me to sense those could be water glyphs. Though it's difficult to see the source if water for some, perhaps that source dramatically changed? The oval eith the line symbolism seems like it could have become a normalized presentation? Adding bowls/cups to mean a spring location? Thanks for your thoughtful adventures.
U of Arizona’s tree rings studies have shown a 12th century drought. That means the period before was at least somewhat wetter. Harvesting water must have been critical. If most of these Cup and Channel glyphs end in a drop off, perhaps the form itself was used to collect water, a wide mouthed pottery jug placed at the bottom. Over 900 years there has been weathering and hence the sloughing off of bits and chunks of rock. So anything well exposed to the elements does not look today exactly as it looked 900-1000+ years ago. Where needed today people configure gutters to channel roof water into barrels. These ancestral Puebloan people were just as smart.
Those a great points. Most end in a short drop off, but occasionally they are on the top of cliff with 50' or more of drop. Since most are in the Shinarump Conglomerate, perhaps there has been some sloughing away of the level below the current cliff edge. NAU also has done some great studies about dendrochronology in and about Northern Arizona.
Astronomical, or dioramic - the surface of the rock may be close to a miniature representation of the much larger real terrain, and the markings may be in reference to things important on the local landscape that are not necessarily water features.
Why do I feel like these serve a ritual purpose? Hunting ritual? A devotional act? Maybe something floatable went into the cups (berries, grain of corn, eye ball, or whatever) then blood or water was poured into the channels until it poured over the edge? I don't see these as direction finders, at all.
At this point it's really hard to say because the oral traditions have not been passed down to us. Perhaps the Paiute people still have the stories? Studies have shown that they don't necessarily point to water sites. I still wonder if they could point to an astronomic point during the period of some celebration or ritual, but I'm more likely to be wrong than right.
Cool video, and thanks for sharing. At first glance, these seem astronomical or serve some sort of diorama purpose, perhaps even ceremonial. But something seems odd about the ones you've shown and their placement in the rock. Several appear to have water pooling very close to them, and to me this suggests that they may not be pointing to water but something else. I wonder if perhaps these were used more in a practical sense, such as measuring the amount of rainfall, similar to how rain gauges are used today, perhaps that could explain the deep hole at the far end of the circle in them. Has anyone tried actually pouring water into them as a sort of "test" or is it inappropriate to do so with these kinds of finds? I genuinely don't know and wouldn't want to suggest something that's disrespectful to the people or the site, I just thought it might be interesting. I'm also curious as to how old some of them are. The rock of the one you've shown which appears to have a large groove in the cutting through its main "channel" looks quite porous. I wonder if that the carving was made first and through either prolonged exposure to water/wind perhaps eroded away the centre, giving it the impression it now has.
The sandstone these glyphs are carved in has a lot of limestone cementing (Harrisburg Member of the Kaibab Formation), and thus is fairly porous - I may have to go back out on a rainy day or after a snowfall and see how the water sits in the grooves. That sounds like it might be a good follow up to his video.
Si riconoscono, simili a tutti gli altri i Pelasgi-Shardana ...i primi navigatori esploratori, con copricapi pennuti ed elmi cornuti, arrivati dal mare con navi-serpente o lumaca, alla ricerca di metalli preziosi. Il cerchio diviso in due da un solco, rappresenta il grembo materno che genera e da alla luce, cioè mette nel mondo angeli caduti ... così come suggeriscono, tutti i luoghi di culto della Sardegna.
@@PetroglyphWatch - Ottima scelta ...la Sardegna, con le sue 10.000 torri nuragiche censite e le altre 20.000, ancora sepolte o completamente distrutte ...era il luogo più intensamente abitato dell'antichità, senza dimenticare tutte le altre costruzioni del periodo megalitico come "tombe dei giganti", "Domus de janas", "pozzi sacri" e tanto altro, ciò che ne fa, un luogo unico al mondo ...tassello mancante, per ricostruire la vera storia della civiltà umana ...da quella megalitica, a quella sumero-accadica, fino a quella egizia !
The notch runs off the edge so a person can get down and sight up the notch. The hole at the end is there for a stone to be placed in it to complete a sight tip, like a rifle. It becomes a sighting instrument.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean? I always appreciate the art and symbology of a site, the beauty of the area I'm in, and respect for the all the people who came before. As I've not had a chance to get out much recently, I really do miss the art.
Thank you for sharing your adventure
I love the mystery behind these. And how rare they are relative to the already rare petroglyphs
Thank you. For going back!
Hi Petroglyph Watch. Good to see ya ✌️
You probably know this already, but just as ancient people paint on walls in caves, they also painted on stones that they carried with them. Migratory people needed to travel lightly, so they found a way to put several images on one stone. It takes a while to learn, but if you take a close look at the rocks you will begin to see that every single one of them was brought to their present location by a human being. Can you see the photo realistic portrait on my avatar? We use Dstretch as well. Fantastic work, I love your passion. 👍
I enjoyed this triple today. Pictographs are always my favorites. Pictographs are awesome though. It seems there csn be some intuitive sense with some questions, such as water, farming, hunting maybe husbandry eith a few sheep? Water changes a lot over the centuries which leads me to sense those could be water glyphs. Though it's difficult to see the source if water for some, perhaps that source dramatically changed? The oval eith the line symbolism seems like it could have become a normalized presentation? Adding bowls/cups to mean a spring location? Thanks for your thoughtful adventures.
Thank you for this informative and amazing video .
Great find.
U of Arizona’s tree rings studies have shown a 12th century drought. That means the period before was at least somewhat wetter. Harvesting water must have been critical. If most of these Cup and Channel glyphs end in a drop off, perhaps the form itself was used to collect water, a wide mouthed pottery jug placed at the bottom. Over 900 years there has been weathering and hence the sloughing off of bits and chunks of rock. So anything well exposed to the elements does not look today exactly as it looked 900-1000+ years ago. Where needed today people configure gutters to channel roof water into barrels. These ancestral Puebloan people were just as smart.
Those a great points. Most end in a short drop off, but occasionally they are on the top of cliff with 50' or more of drop. Since most are in the Shinarump Conglomerate, perhaps there has been some sloughing away of the level below the current cliff edge. NAU also has done some great studies about dendrochronology in and about Northern Arizona.
Are you aware of Anthony Peratt's linkage to plasma patterns?
Worth a look.
These are found all over the world.
Astronomical, or dioramic - the surface of the rock may be close to a miniature representation of the much larger real terrain, and the markings may be in reference to things important on the local landscape that are not necessarily water features.
That's very much a possibility, and other rock art throughout the southwest has shown that as a possibility too.
Why do I feel like these serve a ritual purpose? Hunting ritual? A devotional act? Maybe something floatable went into the cups (berries, grain of corn, eye ball, or whatever) then blood or water was poured into the channels until it poured over the edge? I don't see these as direction finders, at all.
where do they point? a place of water, or food, or travel?
At this point it's really hard to say because the oral traditions have not been passed down to us. Perhaps the Paiute people still have the stories? Studies have shown that they don't necessarily point to water sites. I still wonder if they could point to an astronomic point during the period of some celebration or ritual, but I'm more likely to be wrong than right.
Great work! What’s your app?
I use Final Cut Pro - it allows me good editing features and a consistent interface.
Cool video, and thanks for sharing.
At first glance, these seem astronomical or serve some sort of diorama purpose, perhaps even ceremonial. But something seems odd about the ones you've shown and their placement in the rock. Several appear to have water pooling very close to them, and to me this suggests that they may not be pointing to water but something else.
I wonder if perhaps these were used more in a practical sense, such as measuring the amount of rainfall, similar to how rain gauges are used today, perhaps that could explain the deep hole at the far end of the circle in them.
Has anyone tried actually pouring water into them as a sort of "test" or is it inappropriate to do so with these kinds of finds? I genuinely don't know and wouldn't want to suggest something that's disrespectful to the people or the site, I just thought it might be interesting.
I'm also curious as to how old some of them are. The rock of the one you've shown which appears to have a large groove in the cutting through its main "channel" looks quite porous. I wonder if that the carving was made first and through either prolonged exposure to water/wind perhaps eroded away the centre, giving it the impression it now has.
The sandstone these glyphs are carved in has a lot of limestone cementing (Harrisburg Member of the Kaibab Formation), and thus is fairly porous - I may have to go back out on a rainy day or after a snowfall and see how the water sits in the grooves. That sounds like it might be a good follow up to his video.
That would be amazing! I hope you get around to it sometime and share your findings, thanks again for the share and safe travels!! @@PetroglyphWatch
Looks like a sacrifice alter
3:45 refrain from touching
You're right - I always try not to touch and I guess I slipped on this one. Thanks for the reminder!
Si riconoscono, simili a tutti gli altri i Pelasgi-Shardana ...i primi navigatori esploratori, con copricapi pennuti ed elmi cornuti, arrivati dal mare con navi-serpente o lumaca, alla ricerca di metalli preziosi.
Il cerchio diviso in due da un solco, rappresenta il grembo materno che genera e da alla luce, cioè mette nel mondo angeli caduti ... così come suggeriscono, tutti i luoghi di culto della Sardegna.
That's interesting. If I ever get a chance to visit Sardinia I will have to explore the culture of the early people there in more depth.
@@PetroglyphWatch - Ottima scelta ...la Sardegna, con le sue 10.000 torri nuragiche censite e le altre 20.000, ancora sepolte o completamente distrutte ...era il luogo più intensamente abitato dell'antichità, senza dimenticare tutte le altre costruzioni del periodo megalitico come "tombe dei giganti", "Domus de janas", "pozzi sacri" e tanto altro, ciò che ne fa, un luogo unico al mondo ...tassello mancante, per ricostruire la vera storia della civiltà umana ...da quella megalitica, a quella sumero-accadica, fino a quella egizia !
That is for sacrificial offerings the blood flows off the end. Theyre always on large flat surfaces. Sacrificial table
Where’s the picture!
The notch runs off the edge so a person can get down and sight up the notch. The hole at the end is there for a stone to be placed in it to complete a sight tip, like a rifle. It becomes a sighting instrument.
The author points out that some have a drop off of 50 feet. Hmmm
Your missing the art
I'm not sure exactly what you mean? I always appreciate the art and symbology of a site, the beauty of the area I'm in, and respect for the all the people who came before. As I've not had a chance to get out much recently, I really do miss the art.