Classic Game Room - STUNT RACE FX review for Super Nintendo
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Classic Game Room reviews STUNT RACE FX from Nintendo for the SNES released in 1994, a Super FX game with the old school polygons that mean SUPER! - บันเทิง
No, the SuperFX chip can't run Crysis.
Yet.
+The Obsolete Geek just wait til Linda gets done with ISIS. she'll have Crysis run 4k 60 fps
+The Obsolete Geek It can run Doom tho.... but then printers can run Doom
this is nothing but impressive! it blows my mind what they were able to achive on snes with that chip. The fact they put so much effort into a lot of little things they could have skipped on because of the advanced technology and considering how expensive it must have been to make, its admirable to say the least.
loved this game as a kid. still have my original cartridge.
back in the days, the dev were like
"Nah man, the human eye can't see more than 10 fps"
+samsoulee Actually it was more like 10fps THIS IS RUNNING SO SMOOTHLY!
*****
yeah, console devs !
+Doctalen PROGRESS!
+Doctalen You guys are still crying about 30 framse
+samsoulee "If we go above 10 FPS, the SNES will explode. It's like reverse Speed."
This was the first game I ever played!
This game was a huge part of my childhood! Thx for the review!
i love the 4th vehicle the motorcycle. it has the best balanced stats and its thin so it can take turns and fit between obstacles easily. also the semi truck and trailer in the bonus level is fun.
This game is amazing! I bought this game new back in 94 and played the hell out of it. I bought a mint copy last year for $4 and it brought back so many good memories.
I have no issues with the controls. After not playing this game for 20 years I was able to pick it right up again! It's so much fun for me lol. I have so many games in my collection but this one I can pickup and play no matter what.
playing it today, it feels awful, playing it back then, as a kid, it was SUPER Lando
I was at a flea market recently and they had a random cgr sticker on the wall. Hmm...
This game could have used some blast processing.
+KWKBOX That's why Genesis had Doom and Wolfenstein....oh wait, that had to come out on the 32X in order to run on sega hardware...LOL
gozinta82 They went the route of exclusives like Zero Tolerance instead of more ports.
KWKBOX
Yeah, but that doesn't compare ;) No hate toward Sega (I own a genesis too), but I don't think blast processing would've helped Sega port Doom to the Genesis.
+gozinta82 The 32X was actually a standalone unit that was actually the same thing included in the Virtua Racing game. So in effect, Sega had a superior offering. Virtua Racing was released for the Genesis (with the 3d processing chip included in the cartridge like nintendos version), but later came out for the 32x too with more cars.
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You're telling me the exact same hardware in the 32x is inside of the virtua racing cart. Then why did Sega have to build an addon and charge their fanbase more when it could've just been stuck into respective cartridges for less? I would imagine the chip included is a simplified version that uses some of the same methods, if anything. The thing is, SuperNes was doing most of what the 32 bit consoles did (minus FMV and CD music) w/o any attached addons (other than the FX chip). Genesis needed a boost in order to do so. No hate, I love both systems, but let's be honest here.
The Super FX chip was further developed into the ARC family of RISC processors which are still being developed today. Argonaut spun off ARC systems which was acquired by Synopsis in 2010.
The Super FX chip works by generating a 256 graphics layer that is used to draw polygons. A few games like Yoshi's Island used it for improved bitmap graphics instead (more colors, better scaling and rotation effects). The SNES actually has extra pins on the cartridge port for additional graphics and sound chips so it didn't need any external connections to add another graphics layer like the 32X did on the Genesis .
The Genesis's graphics chip has extra pins for more video RAM and color pallet RAM but they were left unconnected, there is also no way to directly access the GPU RAM from either the cartridge port or the expansion port which made implementing a polygon coprocessor on the Genesis inefficient. It had to generate tiles that were then downloaded from RAM in the cartridge and moved to the video RAM for display by the Genesis. This also crippled the Sega CD's scaling and rotation processor for the same reason (it would have been much faster if they had been able to just add a block of shared video RAM to the Sega CD)
The System C-2 arcade board uses the same graphics chip as the Genesis but uses twice the VRAM (128K) and external color encoder and CRAM. (it also used a 10mhz 68000, eliminated the Z80 and PSG and used a different DAC)
Interesting fact, the Genesis GPU is a 16-bit upgrade to the GPU that was used in the Master System with the legacy graphics modes removed (it still supports the SMS relevant modes but all of the really ancient modes were taken out). The Master System GPU in turn was an enhanced version of the Texas Instruments graphics chip that was used in Colecovision, MSX and the TI-99.
This game was really impressive back in the day.. I still remember my cousin having this and hogging the SNES all day on Christmas. ... Hey are the wheels of the cars polygons or sprites? They kinda look like sprites.
The wheels are sprites, same with the eyes. :)
Thanks :) They fooled my child-self ! Was quite clever to save valuable processing power.
+Kano Wins I think the wheels of CTR were sprites as well, even though they could easily handle polygons.
+Kano Wins They are sproits.
+Kano Wins Definitely sprites.
im that one guy that's hoping for a re-release that's maybe in 30fps on my 3ds...
I wouldn't mind that. I loved this game back then. I still do!
+patrick borrelli If you do a little research, some geniuses have used donor carts and electronic wizardry to overclock Stunt Race FX.
The results are fucking magnificent man.
+patrick borrelli That would be cool.
"The 3D Stuff didn't start to get good until the Saturn, N64 and Playstation era"
Uhh... Actually, I'd say it didn't start to get GOOD until the PS2 and Game Cube era >w>
Goldeneye, Zelda OOT and Super Mario 64 would like a word with you.
atflaco when I said "3D Stuff" I was talking about the graphics, not the games themselves
Ruko Michiharu Well then you should've specified that.
I agree, a lot of the ps1/n64 era games have aged horribly. Even a lot of the ones that were considered great at the time.
4sake123 The graphical jump from 5th gen to 6th gen was massive, so massive that most 5th gen games look pretty bad for 2002 standards, let alone for today's standards...
that said though, many 5th gen games are still really good to play!
Played this when I was 5 years old with my brother! Great memories of my first racing game before mario cart!
"Good dimes; I'm a sick bastard."
"That's...whatever you were talking about for you."
You know what this reminds me of? Eat My Dust for PC! I played the hell out of that game back in the day.
Wow that is one shiny SNES label! Didn't realize the FX chip helped with that too.
Great video, man. Greatings from Brazil!
This was amazing and amazingly fun in 1994. Like Mark suggests, the low FPS combined with the laggy controls just weren't something we really noticed. The controls just felt more difficult, not wrong.
I remember this game from when I was a teen, I was blown away, now it seems so passe. But you're right, it was pretty ground breaking back in 1994.
I always loved this game. I still play it to this day!
These grafx were incredible for the snes nobody thought they could do 3d at all until games like this
I remember this game. It was pretty fun.
I loved this game when I was a kid just takes me back this
There was also two stages where the Starfox crew would fly by. I loved that.
I also loved the big Truck ^_^ I'd love to see this game remade to get the low FPS away.
i still love this game. it has so much personality and great environment/car/track design. also, though i know it's not saying much by today's standards, SRFX actually had one of the highest framerates for a poly-based game at the time of its release, and it technically ran on the super FX 2 chip which was even burlier than the original SFX that powered star fox. the controls take a bit of getting used to but i found them second nature and not quite so laggy/twitchy once you're used to them.
great video as always (:
I loved Stunt Race FX, I played it a ton. Never got the rig course right but I didn't spend that much time with it. I did get all the way to the motorcycle which is really fast.
Good grief, I played the hell out of this game back in the day. I memorized the tracks so completely, that I could tell exactly where I was on the track by how much the framerate chugged.
You can virtually overclock the Super FX chip in Retroarch. It makes the SFX games on the SNES immeasurably more fun (and playable). Worth checking out.
My little bro used to rent this game when we were kids and I actually bought a copy myself before I decided to sell my snes collection. Fun game. I liked super mario kart better tho and we also had the top gear racing game for snes. I always played as the motorcycle dude and at the stage close to the water. I always ended up going over the side rail and into the water too, usually from driving too fast.
I used to rent this game all the time. Really loved those SuperFX chip games.
I remember renting this game frequently when I was a kid. always had a lot of fun with it. I really don't remember the controls being all the difficult even though that seems to always be the main complaint with this game.
Thank you Lord Karnage! I played the shit out of this game back when i was younger. Brings back good memories...
the first racing game I ever played while growing up back in the 90s.
Fantastic title. the Cars, tracks, music, game modes All with the distinctive charm of nintendo.
Wow, I really love this game, I used to rent it all the time and I'm still waiting for a sequel.
Mark.
After you review everything...
what will u do next?
+Jerry Joe your mom
+Jerry Joe He'll leave the intergalactic space station dome like Truman at the end of the Truman Show. "In case I don't see ya...good afternoon good evening and goodnight!" Closes door. FIN
+Z3rostar Epic ;D
+Jerry Joe Beat The Witness.
I remember that game when I was a kid, it was really fun when I was young. It really hasn't aged well due to the frame rate though.
loved this game back in the day
Rented this back in the day and I liked it. Nowadays it gets a lot of flack for its flaws, thanks for mentioning the positives as well. I actually just played this for the first time since 94 after buying it at a retro gaming convention for $5. In the same way people defend clunky controls on action games, this game can be fun for what it is.
I can't remember of I owned this game, or if I just rented it a lot. Back in the day I loved this game.
The TVs at the time smoothed the low resolution problem, but the low frame rate... That was something that you had to get along with.
This game was great, my buddy at school and I would trade the cartridge back and forth and keep beating each others times. Eventually it got really difficult to do... but had a great time trying.
I miss the 90s. When there were actual differences between hardware generations, Nintendo knew what they were doing, and no Call of Duty to oversaturate the market with dudebro shooters.
I still love this game. I've actually beaten it a few times.
Can't remember if I beat the Master class though... Maybe...
I even have the Japanese version "Wild Trax" and the Hot Wheels F-Type! (The Hot Wheels car is just another casting painted to look similar to the F-Type)
this game and dirt trax fx for snes were awesome back in the day
This game blew my mind when it came out.
Oh my god. I had this game, and had completely forgotten about it, which is something I don't do very often (I think...?)
The look of this reminds me of Virtua Racing on the Genesis.
I played this game when it first came out and I really liked it
played the hell outta this when i was a kid. i tried once a glitch driving off the course to no where.
I loved that game, played it like crazy
Argh, I remember trying to complete those semi truck challenges and always failed.
The box art is wonderful
the game was REALLY GOOD back in the day, I played the hell out of it and it rocked! this and F-zero was my racing games back then, mayby that's why i roul the race driving games even to this day :D
This looks like a lot like the bike scenes from Tron ! I like the looks of this. :)
I wish Nintendo would put this on the Wii U Virtual Console. To me it was weird that they didn't ad it when the Wii Virtual Console was around. I think many people including myself have very fond memories of this game. By the way Mark if you use the brake before you turn it corrects the turn quicker. Man if only we can talk Nintendo into putting this on the Virtual Console I and many others would make it a day one purchase for sure.
I know you can overclock Doom and StarFox and it makes those game so much more playable. I don't see why that wouldn't work with this. Maybe I'll give it a try.
I've always really liked this game, the music is great, the sound effects are great, the character designs are cute, and the game plays fine.
This game is full of problems but it is truly fun once you learn how to work with its inadequacies. And the music is great
Why wont Nintendo do more games like this in our modern times? I like Mario & the lot but I miss games like Wave Race & this game that didn't have to be so Nintendo related.
Nintendo only does Nintendo. Which is unfortunate. When your console ONLY has Nintendo games... it's not long before you grow to hate Nintendo when Nintendo is all there is to play.
And sure enough... my Wii U destroyed my love and interest in Nintendo. Consoles need more than 1st party products.
If you can get past the framerate, I think it's a pretty enjoyable game. The cartoony visuals kinda help make up for it.
Man this was my first game, will never forget it :D Was terrible with every car other than the monster truck. I miss the beep beep opening.
I love this game, I still play it, cus it was unique for its time and very fun.
+Kevster012 Nintendo needs to remake this game with better visuals, and a better framerate. But keep the soundtrack. Maybe update it, but keep the music tracks.
The only place I ever saw this game was at my orthodontist's office. good times.
I’m remaking the first tack easy ride in Mario kart wii cause I’ve always wanted an updated version of this game. Subscribe and stay tuned if interested I’ll have a download link
amazing game, ignore the framerate criticism and just enjoy an absolutely fabulous game. The framerate fluctuates and isn't buttery smooth but it's still more than playable in the actual sense of being drivable. The trouble is people just don't like what they are seeing from this point and that's more fool them as it's such a terrific game regardless
marios big face was in the background.
Remember seeing this game back in the day. Never really played it, and thankfully I didn't lol. Though it does have some charm to it.
1994 was a great year. 4th grade. Meeeeemorieeeees...
Some people have overclocked this game to make it run smooth and it becomes fun as hell.
This was my fav game back in the day. I played this for years. I knew a bunch of glitches that would send you flying through the sky or land you off the track and such.
Stretching out the physics of Stunt Race FX was quite fun.
So yeah, I tracked down a copy last year and bought it again.
I was telling my girlfriend that this was totally rad and seriously as good as mario kart.
And then we played it.
Mickey Rourke aged better than Stunt Race FX.
This game looks really kool! Too bad it runs at such a low framerate.
I remember stunt race fx for the o g super Nintendo entertainment system
My god i had this game back in the day but the cartridge had no cover, i had no idea it was a different cartridge with an adittional chip, btw that green speedbike was the shit.
Yes! I love this game!
"It might suck you into the R-Zone" Bahaha!!
I really wanted to play/have this game as a kid for some reason. I could never find it though. Its like i couldn't even find it to rent.
+Bishop Coxcomb "It'll suck you into the R-zone if you aren't careful"
Mark, Would you review Tatsujin Oh (Truxton II) for the FM TOWNS MARTY?
Omg this game brings back memories , I think I paid £60 for this when it first came out, was a good game but at the time I wished I had bought super streetfighter 2 instead.
man did I play the shit out of this game when I was a kid. The semi-truck bonus level was the tits! ;)
It's really a quite polished little game, with nice graphics, and a lot of thought put into the design. The issue is pretty much entirely the framerate. Had this been released on a slightly more powerful machine, it would have been a really fun, cartoony little racing game. The low frame rate renders it nearly unplayable, though.
I love this game.
Are you using Retron 5 or original hardware hooked up to an xrgb mini?
I was able to get used to the crappy FPS over time, but the FPS is the thing that stands out most about the game.
Nintendo needs to make an HD/60FPS version of this for the WiiU eShop.
Get on that.
Also, I just have to point out the SNES doesn't have L1 and R1 buttons: just L and R. Though, I guess being the only ones technically makes them de facto the FIRST ones, too...
I loved this game
Although they're very blocky the graphics are still kind of appealing. Shame it runs at about 10fps.
I wish I could send you my copy of Lobo for the SNES to review, but unfortunately it's my only copy. Hopefully one day someone will make reproduction copies of Lobo for SNES again by using the rom file I uploaded on my website.
For the time this game was awesome on the snes.
My friend got this game for his birthday when it first came out and I remember he kept trying to force himself to like it, until finally he just put the controller down and admitted that i was terrible. Poor bastard lol
i use to rent this from blockbuster
My dad spent 75 bucks for it, and it was worth it.
Would like to see it running on Virtual Console with 60 fps or in a console like Nintendo DS...
Yeah for will!!
I still like this game.
i was hardcore and used the bike on this game !!!
The frame rate reminds me of Dark Souls 2 PS3 ver.
While the snes can do polygons via software at 2 or 5 fps, the super fx2 chip crunks it up from 5 or 10 to 15 fps,but even that wasn't enough to run this game smooth and eventrough it compeated against sega's virtua racing game on the genesis wich contained the svp chip, that svp chip has a much better polygon count and smoother frame rate then that super fx chip.
But both games proves the expansional capabilities of both consoles.
Seems Nintendo and 'track memorization' have something in common..! (see F Zero GX review)