Which Version of The First Star Ocean Should You Play? - Star Ocean: First Departure Remaster Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2024
- Special thanks to Square Enix for providing me with both the Switch & PS4 version of Star Ocean: First Departure R. This is a comprehensive comparison between the original Super Famicom version of Star Ocean and it's PSP remake, Star Ocean: First Departure as well as it's remaster, Star Ocean: First Departure R that's releasing on PS4 and Nintendo Switch.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro/Star Ocean (SNES)
1:56 - Star Ocean: First Departure (PSP)
4:26 - Star Ocean: First Departure R (PS4/Switch)
7:30 - Conclusion
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Loving the direction that this channel took. This guy really goes into detail of each and every specific version, making my life essentially easier when I decide to replay these classics.
Yeah this guy does amazing work.
I'm not sure how much detail one can go into in little over an 8m video.
Deciding if Star Ocean First departure R is a good remake of it. For the Nintendo Switch
@@eduardodiaz5762
Watch the video?
@@SeanUCF yeah, I had commented when I barely saw the video🙃
I got the Switch version, it's not bad kinda iffy on the controller's compared to Tales of Vesperia and the other Tales games.
Gotta love a remaster that gives you options. Change es much as you want. As long as I can choose for myself, it's all good.
You're the only person I will go to for these kinds of analysis, very thorough, great comparisons and always entertaining to watch, thanks for all you do 💙
Yeah I've just subbed for reasons I'd expect only a minority will share but to name a few:
-He doesn't put his face in the thumbnails or have 'talking into the camera' sections (I don't click on any thumbnails with the person's face plastered on there, especially if they're pulling some stupid face but regardless - I find seeing people's faces annoying for whatever reason, including my own. Plus most people sit too close to the camera)
-He doesn't have any weird speech patterns that make listening for longer than a minute increasingly annoying (SwankyBox and implantgames have this problem - ending every sentence with the exact same odd intonation; once my brain notices it, it becomes more and more grating until I unsub. Also monotonous voices or people? Who end every sentence? Like it's a question?)
I'd love to not find certain things irritating because then I'd be able to enjoy more content but we all have our peeves and I suspect people rarely actually voice them to the channel host rather than simply not watching again. Unfortunately most people view criticism as 'being a hater', which doesn't help the channel in the slightest.
Personally I love the look of the original. I feel like there is a wonderful texture and atmosphere due to the color choices and pixel art. I definitely like the look of the newer versions though as well - especially the portraits.
Just wish it was consistent in first departure R but then they goof when Ashlay faces left and his missing arm flips to be the right one (let alone Dorn's contrasting skin tone with game sprite, 4:50 explains). But then Millie's paper airplane is white and magically becomes brown when picking up lol.
Fun for its time though dated given tedious backtracking (Pericci's bunny whistle helps the world map though revisiting purgatorium is torture) and Mt. Metorx being a beginner's trap as Cyuss alludes to it yet you have no chance.
The original has a lot more soul to it, you can see how much they are trying to push the SNES hardware.
It even has Dolby Pro Logic Surround sound, its amazing.
It just lacks the cut content stuff
I hope we get a Second Evolution enhanced port someday.
For real I need one for switch so I can. Scratch my star ocean itch
@@lucinae8510 might not be the case once Divine Force sells really well
Second story is one of my all time favorite games ever. I got the second on psp from ebay but inside the case was first story- and it was a christmas present wawp wawp.
Tear in the pieces!!!
Oh no!!
Its called the PS1 version, superior in every way
I’ve been meaning to get into Star Ocean for years! I’m really glad you’ve done a video on this.
Just beware. The plot to SO3, Till the End of Time, along w/ the English voices will make you question your love for the franchise. Definitely a step down from A Second Story.
That's great if that's the case. I was hoping SO4 might redeem it for me. Not quite there yet. That said, SO3 isn't irredeemable. The combat is fantastic & the music ain't bad.
@@Rixstarian s o 5 was worse
@@johnlawful2272 hopefully SO6 can reignite the fanbase.
@@paperluigi6132 yes
The fan translation for the snes version is very good I would recommend it
Lynn
I don't often watch videos like these but I'm glad this popped up on my recommended and I gave it a shot. You certainly made it easy to understand the origins of the game and the history it has. Thank you!
I honestly didn’t know there was a remaster. Definitely gonna pick it up, especially since I skipped the PSP release.
I had no choice. I couldn't find the PSP one anywhere even though I knew about it for a long time. Glad they made one for Switch.
Same here, I didn't know about this remaster before this video. I wish the remaster was on the PC tho.
PC would be ideal, but having PS4 and Switch options is better than just one platform.
That said, I’m now umming and ahhhing about whether I want performance and guaranteed backward compatibility or portability 😂
@@afropowa1598 You can emulate psp and you can play it
Wow! What a thorough and well made video!
The information is presented perfectly, concise and well thought out. This is exactly the kind of video I'm looking for when researching retro games with multiple versions.
I can tell a lot of work went into making this video and I appreciate it. Thank you for the video!
Dude; I thought this game was completely forgotten, and I had no idea they did a remake after the SNES version.
This is super exciting news
Personally i'd like the field style of the Famicom version more (never played that one though, played the psp so far...might get it again on Switch since it's just $20 and the control sticks on the switch are better than the psp pad imo) but would probably never trade the First Departure versions for it only due to FD having more content overall.
I would love to see Namco do this with the Tales of Destiny and Rebirth games.
Agreed. I want Tales of Destiny PS2 in English SO BADLY.
Imo all old Tales games needs Remakes. Not Remasters but *REMAKES* .
@@edboy5418 a simple english release would be enough for me. We got nothing here in europe, as far as i know Symphonia was the first that was released here.
@@jinkisaragi874 and Symphonia isn’t on Switch. Hell, the only Tales game on it is Vesperia.
chrono trigger*
During Tales of Phantasia's development, some people on the team didn't agree with some of the decisions that were being made so they broke off and formed Tri-Ace. It wasn't after the game was done, but 9 months before it.
One of those conflicts are regarding the game title. The original game title (and the title of source material) is Tale Phantasia. Namco changed it to Tales of Phantasia.
Also, they're not internal Namco team in the first place. They've tried Enix first but they're not interested (bad move, Enix). So it's not strange if they then "broke off" to make a new company.
@@casekocsk it makes you wonder what things would have been like if they didn't change things.
tri-Ace* go back to tales u weeb. t is lower case
@@gregwilhide9685 excuse you
This is true... Original they were all wolf team... They split becoming tri-ace and the tales of team. Both teams continued to work with motoi sakuraba for music
The StarOcean I like was the 1st snes one. That one had such a great story! It could work with Chrono Trigger.
Glad they get rid of this blurry filter on the sprites! For once. I would by that in a flash if it release physicaly. Also, can't wait for SO2 remaster.
Star Ocean's fan translation was translated from Japanese by Clyde "Tomato" Mendelin who went on to do Mother 3 and Bahamut Lagoon and two chapters of "Live A Live".
and a lot of offical stuff like the dub for summer wars
Thanks a lot for this video and the research you did for the rebalancing ^^.
Can't wait for tomorrow !
Thank you so much. I started with the 3D Star Ocean but was curious to play this remaster of the original.
This video pops up right no time! I wanted to see the differences and here there are, uploaded just three hours ago. Nice timing!
Beat the fan translation on my hacked Wii a few years back I enjoyed playing this and will prolly get this
This was very informative and helpful! Awesome video!
The Cool Village is in danger! Signed, -Elder of Cool.
Yep, that’s cool in my book
Hey man, I really love your all ports review. I hope you continue this and make more.
They should have included the original snes version in fdr.
That would have been cool. And with an official translation.
Agreed, and having the SNES/Super Famicom version with the official translation would've been not only awesome. But something for our retro-gaming community would've loved. Also if there are kids that are playing this PS4/Switch remaster/remake, they may want to play or try out the SNES version out of curiosity.
@@mdo7 Yep. Honestly the remake character sprites look HUGE, items don't appear hidden(all are in chests that I've seen so far, just bought it though because at least it's available in the US without fan translations and emulation, despite the SFC version being 100x better imo, from gameplay, to translation, to character names, to battle system). The gameplay on the remake seems rather difficult, maybe I don't know all the controls like I did for SNES, but I feel like the characters are much harder to control, as are skills because no long distance/short distance skills, overall it just feels like I have much less control. Btw you could swap between characters on the fly in SNES too, so that wasn't anything new.
Jesus christ that would be amazing. I haven't played the first Star Ocean and I stumbled upon this video and I'm debating on the Switch or PS4 version. I guess I'll be experiencing the game backwards and be playing FDR and then the og at some point but it would be great to get both version right now!
As an unlockable for ending the game like they did with the medievil remake would've been a great surprise yes, they should have.
I love comparisons like this. Well done!
Motoi Sakuraba is a legend. I love all his music. Tales of arise ost is a masterpiece too. Just wish it was on itunes
Currently playing it on the switch AND I'm loving it so far. Feels like an amazing story. Rn I'm on the town you warp after learning what's happening at the beginning. Amazing video as well.
OMG I didn't know about the ZR/R2 sprint! Thank you!
i want to support the franchise so i'll buy the remaster
Fuck that after that Last Hope copy Integrity and Faithlessness I won't support the franchise. Literally the same game.
I'm still gonna support it in hopes that they'll do some reboot of the entire series or a new game that's much better than the last two. A reboot of the entire series is definitely needed to write off SO3, at least because that ending wasn't the best to introduce especially if they were gonna do a 4 and 5 after it.
@@crzymage Not likely. You continuing to support them only tells them you're fine with the mediocrity. Not buying their products tells them you're unhappy. Why do you think these game devs keep pulling the same shit every game? Because you all keep buying them anyways "in hopes they will change"
Welcome to the real world buddy.
Thank you for the video it answered all my questions
I want to start and say thank you for the detailed video distinguishing each release's difference, strengths and weaknesses and difference via HD balancing, music, translations and such. These videos always help me learn more about the remastered game. I like knowing that even with FDR the original still has a place too based on a variety of factors. My first experience with Star Ocean FD was the PSP remaster (though my first SO game ever was SO3). I still remember getting really excited to be able to play the first game with new art with the standard Tales of style at the time (Symphonia/Abyss specifically) and being able to play the past game HDed. I am really excited for the new version because it's been years since I played an SO game and I forgot a lot about the first since it's been so long.
Also happy to know there's customizable choices, like art style and voice acting, and I like the idea of the game being more difficult (SO3 beat me up pretty good too). It seems like there was a lot of work involved to make it a very pleasant experience. My only nitpick is no matter the art style chosen there's the PSP style for animated cutscenes (great style just a little just jarring if someone chooses the new style in FDR but reanimating would be maybe too much?) and the music on the original is better than the remaster (can't explain it but sounds more complex with more depth? I wish there was a way to play the original music with the new remaster) but overall I think that this port is really cool. I'm definitely buying this for the Switch (maybe the PS4 too, I play both systems a lot) though I just wish it had a physical version. This game deserves a physical version.
Nice to hear and see all the stuff added to it, figured it was just a rereleased of the PSP version on the Switch but glad to hear it not.
Excellent explanation! I remember being blown away by Star Ocean's visuals as a kid. I also remember having a real bitch of a time getting the ROM to work (a problem which apparently hasn't existed in more than a decade :P)
I just bought this game yesterday and I have to say it's pretty awesome so far! Awesome Review man!
I just want to thank you for the hard work you put to make these videos, it helped me 2 times before and am sure there are more people like me.
This is excellent; just what I'm looking for in a "which should you buy" video. I'll be getting this for the PS4. Thank you! :)
This was helpful, thanks!
I'm not really into the newer iterations of Star Ocean but this oldie is looking slightly more up my alley. Nice video.
Played both the PSP and SNES title, didn't realize it was on the Switch. Good video!
A fair and thorough comparison - that's refreshing! Nice job & thanks.
Subbed, great in depth analysis!
Yay! Perfect description of all three. After playing all the versions, I totally agree that it comes down to preference. Although, FDR has been a total blast. Highly recommend! Hope they do the same for number 2! ❤️ I need Claude and Ashton on the Switch ;)
Oh wow, didn't even realize.
I remember my brother got me the PSP version, and I spent so much time playing it. Might go out and pick up the new one sometime soon.
I'm probably the only person who would rather have a remaster of the Super Famicom version but with the cut content added back in.
Nope, you're definitely not alone.
Same. I recently imported there Super Famicom version just to have it.
I really wish the remasters had better music. A true Motoi Sakuraba remaster would never sound so terrible. It's what stopped me from buying a PSP for First Departure, and it's what will stop me from buying R on Switch.
The new JP dub is probably amazing though.
@@TheXev: i think the remastered OST sounds good but save a few tracks i do think the original is better
especially For Achieve, i like the remaster but it sounds so muted and DAMN, THOSE SFC TRUMPETS
You're not the only one. I'd take either traditional 2D or Octopath Traveler style. But in 2007 pixel art hadn't made a comeback yet.
Nice comparison well made video! subbed👍🏽 Gonna cop and play FDR for the first time before Second Story comes out soon. Last time I played a SO game was SO3 when it came out but I think I got stuck at one point and never finished lol
Thanks for this video. I didn't even know there were more games of this series other than Star Ocean the Second Story R. I'm really excited for both games and am looking forward to playing both games
You didnt think it was odd that you believed the game was the only one, even though the name is *Second* Story?
You do know how numbers work, yeah? I'll help:
2 comes after 1. And 3 comes after 2! I know, crazy right?
@KrazzeeKane Sorry but I'm not interested in your rude behavior and temper tantrum
5 plus a gbc spinoff of 2 and an anime for 2
Came here after the PS Plus added games half october, had 7 other reviews open to see after this one... But got all my questions answered just with this one. Kudos!
was debating whether to get this for switch or PS4, thanks for the detailed reviews of both now I don't have to do research 😊 very informative
Good to see this, I played the SNES version about 15 years ago but never finished, I think I'll play again now on Switch and finish... thanks for this comparative video!
This was a really helpful video.🤠👌🏻👌🏻
what a fantastic review, good job
Fantastic breakdown. Really well done.
Thank you so much for making this video, I've been dying to find out which version to play, I'm going with the original first, then later play the ps4 one, I love remakes and remasters, but I find that the originals are always the best, unless if there's a lot of glitches in it, keep making videos like this bro, thanks again. 😊
Gonna pick this up in the hopes it helps get me a Star Ocean 2 remaster. Still one of the best rpgs ever made!
your wish has been granted
@@ZenSymphonia certainly was. My first pre order in a long time. Can't wait!
Thank you very much for the video, it help me A LOT
I’m curious tho. Will they make a STAR OCEAN: SECOND EVOLUTION port on the switch ????
I wish they would too. To be honest, I like Second Evolution better than First Departure.
They already have, they just haven't localized it for some reason.
Thanks Austin! Based on your in-depth video comparison, I'll be starting with FDR soon. Cheers.
thanks! due to this video i'll probably be picking up FDR
Now give us Second Evolution R
I'm hoping we can use Second Story's voices for combat>
@@Clavitz1 Or the Japanese Dub at least.
@@nesoukkefka1741 why not both? :)
@@Clavitz1 Would be perfect ^^
@@Clavitz1 yeah. Dias & indalecio voice is so good
Very informative. Star Ocean is a big blind spot in my RPG knowledge. Sadly, FD doesn’t look like it’s available on the Vita via PSN so it looks like I’ll be waiting until I get a PS4 or Switch before I play it.
Thanks for the video!
This is a fantastic video, my guy
Ive only played the SNES version. Great game. I really liked it. This is also my preferred design style.
The SNES looks so good to me.
star ocean was one of the only games to have stereo surround sound on the snes
thats awesome
Very informative video! Man I would love an official localization of the Super Famicom version, I'd even take a port to Japanese NSO SNES. Nice to know about the difficulty bump, too. I played the PSP version way back when that came out and I swear I wasn't getting slaughtered as badly then as I am now... Difficulty options would have been nice 😖
Hey thanks for introducing me to such an awesome game
Totally picking this up!! And BRING ONNNNNN THE SECOND STORY/SECOND EVOLUTION!!!
I played this on the psp before along with the 2nd one! The nostalgia
Great job! Subbed
Thank you for this! :)
Really great video, thank you
I really enjoyed the psp remake. I was just glad to play through the story and understand more of it. And it was really cool how star ocean 4 tied into it so much. Also, the main thing that personally would attract me to the R version is the added difficulty, if I were to buy it again.
Thx for the video i will probably buy the switch version for my first blind run!
You earned a sub, simple as that. Thank you.
Nice vid! Liked and Subbed.
🤔 cant be the only 1 wanting a demake of the other games in this style
No you are not! I'd love to see star ocean 3 and 4 done the same way star ocean second story was.
@@christianprincedebates6740 amen to that
Would be a great way to keep the less flagship series from completely disappearing, and not require an overly bloated budged cranking out 4k ready 3d graphics.
nope.
Totally missed out on the PSP version because I didn't know about it since I was studying in oddly enough Japan. But now, I can finally experience this game in Japanese. So glad it's fully voiced. Hate reading so much text in a JRPG.
Truly I thank you for your work, I've learned about new jrpg's because of you (I'm 34) and I've made the jump this week to jump on a bunch of them today cause of the TGS sales. (Also your distaste for ff5 &6 old pc port is hilarious. I actually went out my way to buy it directly from square directly from their EU store "I live in USA" those versions are the ones that visually looks enjoyable to me "my first 2d ff game was ff1 on psp so I like that hand drawn look vs the extra pixel sharp games")
Awesome review
Love your vids!
Thanks for the analysis! :D
Def gonna pick this up for Switch.
Although perhaps I’ll just give the japanese original a go on my Analogue Snes. ^^
I enjoy this series. Great work
OK im sold! Getting this for the Switch!
Nice. I was trying to figure out if this was a remake of the original before buying it
The new version however is the only one that does not come with a manual...
I miss manuals.
Manuals. Gaming Magazines. Blockbusters. Codebooks. Sprite based JRPGs. Shrine websites. Strategy Guides. Actual toonami. Anime girls that were actually stylized and didn't all look the same...
DO I NEED TO GO ON?
@@Aaron-mj9ie yes please continue.
@@rikib3652 D-Pads that didn't suck. Games that didn't require patches. Expansion packs instead of DLCs. LAN Parties. "Squee" and "Glomp" otaku/goth girls instead of ""e-girls"". 150 page fanmade Strategy guides made in Notepad. Gaming Ads. Newtype Magazine, Tips & Tricks Magazine, Nintendo Power Magazine, The Girls of PLAY Magazine.
@@Aaron-mj9ie these are all wonderful memories and things of the a time almost forgotten, that we remember as the good old days😭 now keep preaching, it does my old heart good to hear the chant of nostalgia.
dat new manual smell
The music gives me goose bumps. It's all about the classics and even if it's remastered, it's still beautiful.
Oh I remember this game! It's fantastic!
All versions are awesome. Original just has that supreme charm and the OST sounds the best.
Still waiting for Star ocean 3 remastered on PC with Universe and 4D bugs fixed.
Man I played the original with the fan translation so long ago but I remember how amazed I was at the level of detail and the graphical style. That game is art. Did you like SO3? For me, it's my favorite then 1 then 2 but I also like Star Trek a lot.
The fact that they didn't redo the cutscenes with the new art is completely baffling to me.
Need an npc that asks 'Seriously what color is your hair and do you or do you not have a tail?!"
We do not need new cutscenes with the bland artstyle of fdr.
@@ciphymasterofmedia9104 I completely disagree. I think the new art looks amazing and is an improvement over the PSP art design. Which makes the whole thing weird cause it clashes with their own art.
@@TheRealAlexFlame it lacks as much emotion that the simpler designs of fd had, that is why I think it's bland. To me it looks modernized and the characters appear unrecognizable. I had a few friends agree with me on this. I dont see how the new art is an improvement at all. It doesn't fit with the style of the game at all.
Just beat the game, never got the chance to play it on PSP, and I really enjoyed it! Definitely short, but I had a blast with the challenge. Gotta go do the post dungeon now. I really hope they decide to port the second game now, and then totally remake the 3rd
Good review
just a correction;
Engine used was absed off Star Ocean the Second Story. Second Evolution got made AFTER First Departure remake. :)
Thanks for the video. Got interested with this game after the demo for the SECOND STORY R released and was ready to buy but unfortunately it's not available on steam damm...
Great I subbed. Look forward to checking other videos out. I always wondered about Lunar silverstar ports. Can you please do this treatment to that please.
Wish they'd included the option to switch between the original soundtrack and the remaster. I think the original has a certain charm that the new soundtrack is lacking.
@AustinSV this is the best comparison ever I've seen on any game!!!
You tried to stay objective as humanly possible. Also a comparison that is apple to apples, not apples to something so take my perspective. Also not even trying to imply - hey that is the best because ... I like it better.
100/100
BRUH I grew up playing Star Ocean the 2nd Story... literally had no idea this existed! Going to buy on my PS4 as soon as I get home from work!