@Aznvasions i know its long but since prime is comming im scouring videos for possible builds, the thing is if shadow inherits the melee arcanes, does it also inherit ZAW arcanes ?
@@DemonOfTheRockies bit late on this but from personal testing and if you have his augment mod (shadow haze), best go for the one that increases the crit damage (Dreamer's Wrath) as the augment does effect the 3rd ability of the shadow still procs and increases the shadow's overall crit chance. So bigger crit damage is always nice when the tennokai procs. As a bonus, the mentioned mod will also increase the chance for the opprotunity heavy attack. Allowing you to do the that heavy hitting double strike more often.
From my testing the Shadow is already immune to knockdowns so there is no need for primed surefooted like in the video. I tested in simulacrum on fire eximus and heavy gunner knockdown.
Constructive feedback: I wish you would either have a written guide or at the very least screenshots with all the build layouts for the general idea. You zoom in and out of the build screens so quickly that after deciding I do want to try this out I have to skim through 14 minutes of video to find the 2 seconds that you showed the loadout.
At around 1:30 you say that only sow can fill the death well in normal mode, this is false. All abilities aside from exalted shadow build death well in normal mode; this includes reap and gloom, reap applies the same mark as death's harvest and builds death well in the same way ( killing enemies) and gloom is passive death well build up. - sevagoth main
This video is a real revelation. I had completely forgotten about these amalgam mods. So now i'm actually dust them off and Amalgam Furax Body Count caught my eye. It also work in the same way with Sevagoth's Shadow, spreading blast and impact status on kills, with some nice CC on top of that. And now, i want to try synergizing this with a Topaz Shard and his shield regeneration. I don't have any Crimson Shard left for the moment so i have to wait, but i think this could become a funny build ^^
@@DariusDarkest Yes, melee arcanes completely stopped working. DE has been ignoring the exalted weapons for so long now, it's not even funny… These Amalgam mods still work, but now it's only niche use cases and not optimal anymore. I also used Archon Continuity for a while (it work on the Shadow with Toxin on the Claws), but it doesn't count for the new faction weaknessess. It's nice for proccing corrosive and reducing armors, but the Claws are already so powerful, it's not really needed.
If it can carry over melee specific effects, then it can also get the shield gain effect of rakta dark dagger as well And also, for melee vortex, your own melee doesn't have to proc the magnetic status effect, you can instead have you diriga proc that for you and you just slap them with huge slash procs. And boom all enemies are dragged in.
Exalted Claws being able to benefit from melee arcanes and amalgam mods is almost certaintly not intended, so don't be too surprised when it stops working
Seeing as his augment is a massive gun buff when you crank his strength, Total Eclipse will buff his shadow's claws because it's an aura, but it requires Sevagoth to have high duration so you don't have to swap between shadow and warframe to rebuff yourself
I have come to make a pruposal to have crit damage As archon shards carry over to the shadow, i have given up two slots, to have a blue tauforged for energy max and a purple with more crit, the tauforged makes so the shadow reaches 502 max energy, that makes the purple shard double the bonus mele crit damage, just barely, that way you can have the crit damage of Gladiator might, if you tauforge the purple, you can make the bonus almost reach organ shatter This let's you have, two reds, one tauforged blue and a purple, leaving one shard free for whatever you want I personally use 1 Red for streght, 2 blue for armor, 1 tauforged blue energy and 1 purple for mele crit But do whatever you want
2:53 "Shadow Claws have massive slash weights." Proceeds to show Slash damage having ~50% weight. Meanwhile eg. Garuda P Talons have 85% Slash weight. How do we call it? What is much bigger than massive? Humongous? Enormous? Collosal?
Azn have you tried using the theorem arcane for companion damage with Duplex Bond? I started messing around with it earlier and I think it has enormous potential
If you play sevagoth idk why not to use his shadow it’s amazing. Before buffs he was good people just claim Forma investment is bad? He has three things to mod of course you invest but in exchange you get increased additive Crit, percent based damage, gloom, amazing grouping, debuffing, an easy revive, and if you run preparation instant max energy. Without Helminth. This is without shards that let you increase melee damage, duration, strength or corrosive stacks. People are crazy out here.
People not liking the shadow, still won't like it after this little ad of yours. My opinion on the shadow is it's just a very simple version of a frame that is hardlocked into very basic melee play, no amount of "power" will change that.
Not sure if this build still work. I tried using arcane influence on my weapon and it didn't transfer over to sevagoth's shadow claws. I also tried Sancti Magister for the unique passive and that didn't work as well.
Any suggestions on builds that don't rely on anything other than his shadow/main form? Asking since I wanna use it during SP Circuit, but not sure exactly what to run. Thank you :)
Nice build once again! A little surprised that the Reap augment wasn't used or mentioned here. It carries over to Shadow's 3. edit: rewatched and sure enough the augment is there. oops Also it's so weird Exalted Melee exilus mod slots are a thing but don't enable Tennokai. But Dispatch Overdrive should work right? Also what do you think about Amar's set on Shadow for the 20 meter teleport on heavy ?
I actually wanted to equip dispatch, but it doesn’t let you equip it on his claws for some reason. Amar’s is interesting, I haven’t considered that for Sevagoth.
@@Jazzimus Yeup, I tested this several times ( because people kept telling me it does ) and it does not add cc to claws. I reported it as a bug and never got any word back so I'm assuming this was intended. Why? I've no fcking clue why. Why can I give my Miter or Latron 200% cc and one shots a hallway of mobs, or any demolyst / acolyte. But god forbid shadow's claws gets the cc.
When it comes to Amalgam Argonak interactions, are there any that let you use Rakta Dark Dagger's passive well? Also, to contrast with setup-heavy stuff like Proton Snap, I'd love elemental mods that just passively turn on and off at very short and snappy intervals, that'd lead to some wacky builds. Also, how about ones that don't/only/differently affect the alt-fire/heavy atk?
I do really wish that playing as Sevagoth and using his Shadow didn't require such intricate setups and builds to be useful, even in base steel path. I bought the deluxe skin, and even threw some forma at him because I've always loved the concept of him, but it seens like all the builds are just 90% finding ways to make up for his inadequacies and if you spent half as much effort on any other frame you'd have better or at the very least much more comfortable gameplay. Really wish i could get more out of Sevagoth. Am I just dumb?
Sevagoth doesn't need this kinda setup, shadow claws can easily one shot anything on steel path no matter the LVL and these arcanes just made it even stronger, he's been great all along
does the "transformed exalted weapons inherit the quality of the weapon it replace" also work with the dex pixia ? does tome mods affect the weapon and are secondary arcanes applied ?
Can work, but now slightly less elec procs. less consistent activation, but still quite good and frequent, in exchange for more often slash procs for greater close-range damage.
Yes, but just remember you will lose glad stacks as combo timer on statstick runs down, and that if you build combo on claws, it will overwrite the glad stacks from your melee. So what you can do, is not build combo at all on stat stick, and only use it as a glad mod mule. Should work decently on Sevagoth.
With Shadows claws inheriting arcanes from equipped melee, would this make him a good candidate for making use of melee duplicate as most of his normal attacks hit for yellow crits?
Interesting! But you go into too much technical things. Most of players hate playing Sevagoth because he needs TOO MUCH preparation unlike other Warframes who are just "Press 4 FTW". The hardest thing is filling up his "Well of Destruction" (personally named that way) But this Can be resolved by just installing a grouping ability Ensnare, Larva, Pull etc. By using "Shadow haze" augment the plan is to group enemies then 2 and 1 and boom you are ready to go. After that just by making a corrosive/Radiation/Crit based build on his claws he can completely obliterate the entire map. HOWEVER!!! I have to give you points for the Melee based skill weapons didn't knew that you can activate them with his claws. You intrigued me to change my 2nd favourite Warframe's play style!
@@Aznvasions also BTW do you know if mod sets like Gladiator would work? like lets say I put 3 of them on my dagger would I still get the extra crit chance on the claws?
Khora got even more buffs with radiation being able to be put on diriga meaning u can rock 3 combinations and have more mod slots from the bond eximus one
2h steel path is roughly L300-500 on survival. The survivability of the build is rated to easily reach that. Above that, this setup is heavily dependent on how well you personally play.
He only needs 2 forma to be ok, as in, gets kills faster than life support drains. And that's an ability nuke build. Weapon platform, he can do 0 forma. Playing the shadow is entirely optional, which is why this was the second video along the line, specifically for those that want to use his shadow. You can already nuke everything on Steel Path using abilities, without his Shadow, and that setup as I said, costs 2 forma.
or... you could simply give sevagoth pure red shards, get 400 str, do pillage with 100% strip and giving you absurd survivability, then summoning a broken 400+ str multiplied shadow that has stripped enemies in front of him and do 200m dmg on a heavy
Good afternoon... I wanted to thank you for sharing your build. The truth is that I tested it only on Relics Axi Steel Road for 3 hours 30 minutes and it works very well, except that I have a crack in the weapon. congratulations and if you want we can play if you want or I can leave you my playstation id
As a sevagoth main, i love seeing people use him, but i have one thing to say: dont use his shadow. His 3 first abilities are really strong, so your playstyle with him should be decided by the helminth ability. Either way, great vid, cheers lad
Yea sevagoths shadow is melee focused while sevagoth himself can also do alot too, debuff, give any weapon red crit and nuke rooms, baruuk is also great but he is just melee focused.
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0:00 Intro & Context
0:28 Build Scaling & Tweaks
0:58 Normal Mode Build Reference
1:37 Sevagoth's Shadow Mechanics
2:04 Sevagoth's Kit | Abilities 1 to 4
2:52 Sevagoth's Shadow's Claws Mechanics & Stance
3:17 Melee Arcane Inheritance
4:00 Companion Options
BUILDS
4:13 Archon Shards
4:32 Sevagoth's Shadow's Build & Swift Momentum
5:04 Light Attacks & Range & Utility
5:56 Dagger Sample Build & Argonak Metal Auger
6:37 Dagger Sevagoth's Shadow's Claws Build
7:23 Organ Shatter Discussion
8:14 Jat Kittag Sample Build & Discussion
8:44 Emerald Archon Shards
8:55 Kittag Sevagoth's Shadow's Claws & Proton Snap
9:13 Kittag Sevagoth has 3 BIG Issues
10:10 Summary of Kittag Sevagoth
10:52 Melee Vortex Nami Solo Incarnon Sample Build
11:30 Vortex Sevagoth Build Changes
11:43 Vortex Sevagoth's Shadow's Claws Build
12:09 Summary | Melee Influence Best
12:40 Forward Melee Spam
13:00 Outro
@Aznvasions i know its long but since prime is comming im scouring videos for possible builds, the thing is if shadow inherits the melee arcanes, does it also inherit ZAW arcanes ?
Even without bloodrush and weeping wounds sevagoth had super powerful melee claws. That heavy attack is insane even more with the tennokai mods
Which Tennokai mod would you recommend for this setup?
@@DemonOfTheRockies bit late on this but from personal testing and if you have his augment mod (shadow haze), best go for the one that increases the crit damage (Dreamer's Wrath) as the augment does effect the 3rd ability of the shadow still procs and increases the shadow's overall crit chance. So bigger crit damage is always nice when the tennokai procs. As a bonus, the mentioned mod will also increase the chance for the opprotunity heavy attack. Allowing you to do the that heavy hitting double strike more often.
From my testing the Shadow is already immune to knockdowns so there is no need for primed surefooted like in the video. I tested in simulacrum on fire eximus and heavy gunner knockdown.
He put Prime Sure Footed on Garuda who has that built in to her first ability, Dread Mirror.
¯\(°_o)/¯
Constructive feedback:
I wish you would either have a written guide or at the very least screenshots with all the build layouts for the general idea.
You zoom in and out of the build screens so quickly that after deciding I do want to try this out I have to skim through 14 minutes of video to find the 2 seconds that you showed the loadout.
They will usually have Timestamp in the description, which will make you find things quicker. We'll just need to wait for it.
I usually do timestamp everything, however, I’m currently traveling and have been unable to make the timestamps for it in advance.
At around 1:30 you say that only sow can fill the death well in normal mode, this is false. All abilities aside from exalted shadow build death well in normal mode; this includes reap and gloom, reap applies the same mark as death's harvest and builds death well in the same way ( killing enemies) and gloom is passive death well build up. - sevagoth main
looking for this
This video is a real revelation. I had completely forgotten about these amalgam mods. So now i'm actually dust them off and Amalgam Furax Body Count caught my eye. It also work in the same way with Sevagoth's Shadow, spreading blast and impact status on kills, with some nice CC on top of that. And now, i want to try synergizing this with a Topaz Shard and his shield regeneration. I don't have any Crimson Shard left for the moment so i have to wait, but i think this could become a funny build ^^
bruh... thats right! but im testing and i think the melee arcanes dont work anymore on him
@@DariusDarkest Yes, melee arcanes completely stopped working. DE has been ignoring the exalted weapons for so long now, it's not even funny…
These Amalgam mods still work, but now it's only niche use cases and not optimal anymore. I also used Archon Continuity for a while (it work on the Shadow with Toxin on the Claws), but it doesn't count for the new faction weaknessess. It's nice for proccing corrosive and reducing armors, but the Claws are already so powerful, it's not really needed.
That 2 plat goes so hard.
If it can carry over melee specific effects, then it can also get the shield gain effect of rakta dark dagger as well
And also, for melee vortex, your own melee doesn't have to proc the magnetic status effect, you can instead have you diriga proc that for you and you just slap them with huge slash procs. And boom all enemies are dragged in.
have you tested this? I might have to go test it rn
It doesn't work
Finaly!! someone who SHOWS THE SHARDS! AND EXPLAINS WHAT ONES❤
Exalted Claws being able to benefit from melee arcanes and amalgam mods is almost certaintly not intended, so don't be too surprised when it stops working
Seeing as his augment is a massive gun buff when you crank his strength, Total Eclipse will buff his shadow's claws because it's an aura, but it requires Sevagoth to have high duration so you don't have to swap between shadow and warframe to rebuff yourself
Well, well, well...if it isn't another amazing build for my favorite frame. Thank you! :)
I have come to make a pruposal to have crit damage
As archon shards carry over to the shadow, i have given up two slots, to have a blue tauforged for energy max and a purple with more crit, the tauforged makes so the shadow reaches 502 max energy, that makes the purple shard double the bonus mele crit damage, just barely, that way you can have the crit damage of Gladiator might, if you tauforge the purple, you can make the bonus almost reach organ shatter
This let's you have, two reds, one tauforged blue and a purple, leaving one shard free for whatever you want
I personally use 1 Red for streght, 2 blue for armor, 1 tauforged blue energy and 1 purple for mele crit
But do whatever you want
2:53 "Shadow Claws have massive slash weights." Proceeds to show Slash damage having ~50% weight.
Meanwhile eg. Garuda P Talons have 85% Slash weight. How do we call it? What is much bigger than massive? Humongous? Enormous? Collosal?
Iirc I called Garuda’s talons as “it’s basically all slash”
Azn have you tried using the theorem arcane for companion damage with Duplex Bond? I started messing around with it earlier and I think it has enormous potential
If you play sevagoth idk why not to use his shadow it’s amazing. Before buffs he was good people just claim Forma investment is bad? He has three things to mod of course you invest but in exchange you get increased additive Crit, percent based damage, gloom, amazing grouping, debuffing, an easy revive, and if you run preparation instant max energy. Without Helminth.
This is without shards that let you increase melee damage, duration, strength or corrosive stacks.
People are crazy out here.
People not liking the shadow, still won't like it after this little ad of yours. My opinion on the shadow is it's just a very simple version of a frame that is hardlocked into very basic melee play, no amount of "power" will change that.
Akshually its flat crit not aditive cus saying aditive means its well additive to something
Not sure if this build still work. I tried using arcane influence on my weapon and it didn't transfer over to sevagoth's shadow claws. I also tried Sancti Magister for the unique passive and that didn't work as well.
I wonder if Warframe melee arcanes carry over to sentinel melee weapons
Need help with melee duplicate should I run corrosive or viral on the claws
Any suggestions on builds that don't rely on anything other than his shadow/main form? Asking since I wanna use it during SP Circuit, but not sure exactly what to run. Thank you :)
Nice build once again!
A little surprised that the Reap augment wasn't used or mentioned here. It carries over to Shadow's 3. edit: rewatched and sure enough the augment is there. oops
Also it's so weird Exalted Melee exilus mod slots are a thing but don't enable Tennokai. But Dispatch Overdrive should work right?
Also what do you think about Amar's set on Shadow for the 20 meter teleport on heavy ?
I actually wanted to equip dispatch, but it doesn’t let you equip it on his claws for some reason. Amar’s is interesting, I haven’t considered that for Sevagoth.
That's weird. I have tennokai on my Sevagoth shadow and Valkyr claws and i get the free heavy prompt.
@@Aznvasionsamar's teleport doesn't work on the shadow. I tested this a year back so this info might be outdated.
And unfortunately the reap augment cannot buff the cc of your claws, no matter what you do. This I'm 100% sure of.
@@Jazzimus Yeup, I tested this several times ( because people kept telling me it does ) and it does not add cc to claws. I reported it as a bug and never got any word back so I'm assuming this was intended. Why? I've no fcking clue why. Why can I give my Miter or Latron 200% cc and one shots a hallway of mobs, or any demolyst / acolyte. But god forbid shadow's claws gets the cc.
do the effects of incarnons work with this would it be better to use ceramic dagger if they do
No
Do buffs transfer over when you switch forms?
I was thinking of running warcry on him, but im not sure if the effect stays when you switch
nope
ok i’m new to this game and i have this character but i do such little damage how to do i a lot of damage and get all these stuffs?
how did you make the screen clear while in shadow mode?
Please dont clickbait me like this :facereddroopyeyes:
No u
@@bennetttomatono u
Wth is that pfp
When it comes to Amalgam Argonak interactions, are there any that let you use Rakta Dark Dagger's passive well?
Also, to contrast with setup-heavy stuff like Proton Snap, I'd love elemental mods that just passively turn on and off at very short and snappy intervals, that'd lead to some wacky builds. Also, how about ones that don't/only/differently affect the alt-fire/heavy atk?
I do really wish that playing as Sevagoth and using his Shadow didn't require such intricate setups and builds to be useful, even in base steel path. I bought the deluxe skin, and even threw some forma at him because I've always loved the concept of him, but it seens like all the builds are just 90% finding ways to make up for his inadequacies and if you spent half as much effort on any other frame you'd have better or at the very least much more comfortable gameplay. Really wish i could get more out of Sevagoth. Am I just dumb?
Sevagoth doesn't need this kinda setup, shadow claws can easily one shot anything on steel path no matter the LVL and these arcanes just made it even stronger, he's been great all along
@@josmith4832 can you pass along a build that allows the shadow claws to one shot? ive been havin issues
Which Tennokai mod would you recommend for this setup?
if melee arcanes follow over would that mean exodia melee arcanes do as well?
did the melee influence nerf/fix apply to his shadow?
well yeah
does the "transformed exalted weapons inherit the quality of the weapon it replace" also work with the dex pixia ? does tome mods affect the weapon and are secondary arcanes applied ?
tested it, the flame cascadia stack, but the bonus isn't applied.
What about Carnis Sting instead of Prowess?
Can work, but now slightly less elec procs. less consistent activation, but still quite good and frequent, in exchange for more often slash procs for greater close-range damage.
@@Aznvasions True. Weeping wounds + Naramon?
@@seanmsw5977 can’t equip weeping on claws sadly
The customizability on Shadow was crazy already, melee arcanes only make him more insane.
Imagine if you could exchange moves using Helminth.😂
I really wish shadow had helminth options, or at least its own augments
His claws sadly don’t get the arcane slot.
Say do glad mods on melee improve the crit chance on claws?
Yes, but just remember you will lose glad stacks as combo timer on statstick runs down, and that if you build combo on claws, it will overwrite the glad stacks from your melee. So what you can do, is not build combo at all on stat stick, and only use it as a glad mod mule. Should work decently on Sevagoth.
Gonna drop 20 forma to watch it get nerfed😒
Im pretty sure that they've fixed this now. I've not been able to get it to work.
seems like both arcanes and jet kitty are fixed, but not sure about amalgram mods (it seems fixed too tho)
With Shadows claws inheriting arcanes from equipped melee, would this make him a good candidate for making use of melee duplicate as most of his normal attacks hit for yellow crits?
Yes melee duplicate does affect the claws
Solid choice, leads to roughly 2x more damage
Interesting! But you go into too much technical things. Most of players hate playing Sevagoth because he needs TOO MUCH preparation unlike other Warframes who are just "Press 4 FTW".
The hardest thing is filling up his "Well of Destruction" (personally named that way)
But this Can be resolved by just installing a grouping ability Ensnare, Larva, Pull etc. By using "Shadow haze" augment the plan is to group enemies then 2 and 1 and boom you are ready to go.
After that just by making a corrosive/Radiation/Crit based build on his claws he can completely obliterate the entire map.
HOWEVER!!! I have to give you points for the Melee based skill weapons didn't knew that you can activate them with his claws. You intrigued me to change my 2nd favourite Warframe's play style!
EXCUSE ME HE CAN WHAT NOW
okay jsut tested something and eruption on shadow works in sevagoth form KEKW
I'm not seeing Melee Influence proc at all.
because it was a bug and now no longer works on his shadow sadly
@@StarlikeShadow rip
Wait is this fixed? I see people saying it is but what ecactly was fixed?
Was not fixed, I just tested it last night
thanks @@Aznvasions
@@Aznvasions also BTW do you know if mod sets like Gladiator would work? like lets say I put 3 of them on my dagger would I still get the extra crit chance on the claws?
@@JGburneraccount should
Bruuk!!
Why don't people like this guy again?
humanity is just dumb i guess
0:58 cast HUH?!?!
Reap
Please do a video on titania
This definitely doesn’t work anymore
A shame that this only works with sevagoth(and somewhat with titania). The other exalted melees apart from baruuk are in desperate need of some love.
really? baruuk?
hes prob the strongest exalted frame and unlike valkyr he has range
Oo good
It would be a shame not to use the special sea shanty
Another banger
Khora got even more buffs with radiation being able to be put on diriga meaning u can rock 3 combinations and have more mod slots from the bond eximus one
massive bazonkers
Halp. Is 2 hrs steel path a specific level or…?
if disruption w full squad its more than enough for lvl cap
I took sevagoth to LVL cap on steel path disruption and his shadow claws can one shot any enemy, so yea they are that strong
2h steel path is roughly L300-500 on survival. The survivability of the build is rated to easily reach that. Above that, this setup is heavily dependent on how well you personally play.
If he still needs more than 3 forma to be "okay" he's not buffed lol
He only needs 2 forma to be ok, as in, gets kills faster than life support drains. And that's an ability nuke build. Weapon platform, he can do 0 forma.
Playing the shadow is entirely optional, which is why this was the second video along the line, specifically for those that want to use his shadow. You can already nuke everything on Steel Path using abilities, without his Shadow, and that setup as I said, costs 2 forma.
And how many frames with exalted weapons only need 3 forma? They all need good builds, unless you only play base LVL
or... you could simply give sevagoth pure red shards, get 400 str, do pillage with 100% strip and giving you absurd survivability, then summoning a broken 400+ str multiplied shadow that has stripped enemies in front of him and do 200m dmg on a heavy
Good afternoon... I wanted to thank you for sharing your build. The truth is that I tested it only on Relics Axi Steel Road for 3 hours 30 minutes and it works very well, except that I have a crack in the weapon. congratulations and if you want we can play if you want or I can leave you my playstation id
He's still just clunky
Nice
That play style is too complicated for me
_gausses away_
I swear this guy and that other guy are starting to make a habit of of these ""just got a major buff"" titles.
I mean, this is a major buff. Currently, Sevagoth is the only exalted frame that can benefit from melee arcanes at all. This uniquely affects him.
@@Aznvasions the other guy has been doing kullervo videos with crescendo so idk
@@retribution5204 that's moreso just a QoL buff at best. Also, kullervo doesn't have an exalted weapon.
xpp
As a sevagoth main, i love seeing people use him, but i have one thing to say: dont use his shadow. His 3 first abilities are really strong, so your playstyle with him should be decided by the helminth ability. Either way, great vid, cheers lad
Baruuk better
In what way?
@@josmith4832 baruuk requires less investment for similar results + he's a monk
Yea he's a different frame
@@josmith4832 what do you mean? They're both melee focused frames
Yea sevagoths shadow is melee focused while sevagoth himself can also do alot too, debuff, give any weapon red crit and nuke rooms, baruuk is also great but he is just melee focused.
Nobody gives a f about Sevagoth and i think..