Azn: melee influence + exodia force DE: fixed melee influence interacting with exodia force Azn: melee influence + Vulcan Blitz DE: ahh sh*t here we go again
What about using the Arca Titron heavy slam? It forces electric procs. Not sure what you could do with that, but there’s a build idea for you. Plus with the new tennokai system full combo heavy slams are easy to achieve and practical.
after watching I set this up not having the companion gun yet sucks but so far I'm running everything else and holy is it strong thanks for the build on one of my favorite frames
I love these min-maxed builds, but I also love to do some de-engineering myself. As in, take the build, and see how far it can be tuned down while still being effective and powerful, while also less finicky and more comfortable to use in none-tryhard Lv9999 contexts. This one though... this is going to be nerfed into the ground the moment DE gets a whiff of this, because it's just broken. I could take out nearly half of this build. No Priming. No Nautilus with its cordon and status-spreading. No attack speed increase. A simple Adaptation-tank Saryn build without it being min-maxed to suit this play-style, with Shock subsumed and her Toxic Lash augment for some armour strip. It still completely savages any baseline SP mission, as well as the Netracells. It's absolutely insane, and while not an AFK build, it will definitely get nerfed. Use it while it's still available during the holidays.
I wish everyone would stop saying how 'broken' everything is liked they want it fixed. Just say how much fun were having with all these crazy builds and maybe they will leave alone.
You could toss on two emerald shards and add corrosive for an armor strip and then could use any other helminth like nourish maybe or gloom.. roar. so many options
This makes me want to try turning volt into a melee weapon frame, specifically because you could drop AS on your weapon and run strength and duration for his buffs. Super high AS with high status and run Nautilus for the grouping.
This with roar and proper weighting on the melee weapon is the same build but more accesable than using bane mods js and technically applies more universaly than bane mods then if you want corrosive/armor strip just use spores and green shards
can you subsume Roar and instead of Smite mod, adding electric instead? a lot more comfy without the need to swap mods around per factions (also works on everything that doesn't have bane for them)
Hi, I've been combing through your videos, often frame by frame, to gain further understanding of build mechanics. I'm a bit confused about your mentioning that Melee Influence having quadratic scaling (around 4:30). What does that mean?
You can do this better with the dual ichor incarnon too, except the toxin clouds stick around for a while instead of being a one time damage hit like the jat kittag
This update brought too many broken things for them to fix to be honest. I spent this morning running around doing 130 million damage crits with Corufell's infinite punch through... 😂
Hey azn. You should try this out soon if youre able. Im curious about the effects of the topaz shards granting shields with blast damage procs being paired with caliban. Id like to know if it will actuslly fix his synergy between his innate shield tanking mechanics that only work if you can retain the shield. Since his fusion strike already does blast damage.
What about a few Topaz Archon Shards, the one that gives back shield with blast procs ? Because of the Jat Kittag mod and the fact you use shield gating, it sounds like it could helpmaybe even free some augur mods or Brief Respit or even both depending on how many shards and how strong it ends up being ? I don't know if that'll work, just throwing this out there.
Gamble made a video about the shards being pretty effective in health tanking. It could help but the moment you stop being able to hit a blast proc with no shields. You're pretty much dead instantly. It seems to only help so much until there's either one enemy too far away that hits you, or if you don't do enough damage to fully kill them before your shield is gone
If you want the shards to be super effective. You can use them on gauss and combining his sunder elements to have basically an arcane aegis effect at all times. Or by subsuming his ability on any other frame that has a good energy efficiency. Hildryn may actually be able to have infinite shields this way. Or by using it on an infinite shields Caliban build. This may actually solve the issue with his synergy since the companions he creates only give you shields if you still have them.
This just seems bloody unethical. Jet-powered bio-weapon mega-proliferation isn't *technically* accounted for in the Geneva conventions, but I'm pretty sure it's against the spirit of the thing. That being said, I love it. Keep up the bonkers builds, chef.
Can i ask you a weirdly specific and out of topic question? I heard the incarnon perk "prelude of might" got fixed DE style and now it's basically unusable due to pierce procs. Is this true also for the furis incarnon? Should i just run crit for braton and status for furis?
If we're using toxic lash to DPS and are missing space for an armor strip. Would it not be viable to run green shards with archon continuity? considering the toxin is coming from an ability and procing so often it seems like a good call to also have it applying corrosive.
There's a section about armor strip at 5:00 Summary: For Spores, it would requires range and his build has 34% range. Venom Dose (the augment for Spores that adds Corrosive) would work well but it wasn't necessary for the level he was playing at Also, armor strip is way less powerful overall with the new Jade Shadows update so it is not as needed anymore
Question: Does Quiver and Volt go well together with empowered quiver augment? I have been meaning of a meme build that does some crazy damage but weird to set up.
helminth version of quiver only offers cloak and noise arrow, you wouldn't be able to use the dashwire for crit damage. you'd still need a teammate playing ivara with empowered quiver. once you set it up, it would be a fun camping setup with all that crit dmg tho
They work with blast status, not blast damage afaik, and I don't see the mod applying blast status here, it merely deals blast damage So no, I don't think it would
@@drask1988 25 years doesn't mean 25 of the same games you have popular game like destiny and Warframe and then you got games likes borderlands etc so depending on community especially mobile it differs
@@AMV_KINGDOM_mv safe to say i didnt mean 25 years of playing single community games. do a little test: enter "gaming od" and "gaming op" and see which ones mention universal gaming lingo. i remember od coming up in fighting games, but that comes from the new yorker "overdose" too, which is why i consider it NY lingo and not a gaming term
Are there any enemies that are even capable to Survive a Saryn with Melee Influence. Do we just need enemies that are straight up immune to status effects to survive this lol
There are but not really as you can strip armor with saryns 1 with 2 green shards meaning your attacking pure health so 60% of health plus lash is pretty much dead not considering the toxic DMG over time
Through the helminth system, you can acquire the segment from Son on Deimos. You have to sacrifice normal Volt to the helminth first and then you can subsume Shock onto Saryn.
Is this build still working as intended? Any nerfs to this? I have a great jat kitag riven so I might switch to this but I know you push builds further than most so your builds are more prone to nerfs and bug fixes to affect them I find. Hope it still works
I wonder if i can sell my riven for this melee. It did roll crit chance, crit dmg and attack speed as well. But i cant use it myself yet cuz its locked to mr 14 XD
A nice and solid idea, didnt worked well for me, the dual ichor setup was better for me, but i do like those theorycraft builds and ideas. The volt helminth however was genial and worked amazingly well.
@@void2258 right click is ADS for PC on default. Unless you pull out your melee, then it becomes block instead. How do you ADS if right click is melee? Middle mouse has always been alternate fire aka mode switch, so that can’t be the default ADS button, as well as using middle mouse to ADS is ridiculous for inconvenient as well. What is your ADS bound to by default?
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0:00 Intro & Context
0:20 Why Now?
0:52 Melee Influence Mechanics
1:43 Why Jat Kittag?
2:03 Melee Influence Inheritance
2:45 Toxic Lash Inheritance
3:37 Build Benchmarking
3:48 Why Shock Trooper?
4:18 Triple & Quadruple Dip Banes & Endurance
WARFRAME BUILDS
5:00 Archon Shards & Full Strip Options
5:29 Saryn Build | Shield Gate & Health Tank
5:55 Shield Gate Considerations
6:25 Duration Benchmarking & Alternative Modding
WEAPONS & UTILITY
6:49 Weapons & Focus School
7:17 Jat Kittag Build
7:37 Bane Dipping
7:56 Attack Speed Considerations & Endurance
8:19 Riven Opportunities
9:00 Nautilus Build
9:57 Helstrum Build & Primed Animal Instinct
10:16 Reinforced Bond Tech
10:54 DPS Rotation & How To Use
11:20 Summary
11:40 Outro
I helminthed Janus Key and now I can stop talking about it.
Azn: melee influence + exodia force
DE: fixed melee influence interacting with exodia force
Azn: melee influence + Vulcan Blitz
DE: ahh sh*t here we go again
Wait they fixed the interaction with exodia force, I went out of my way to build a status zaw for it.😢
it doesnt feel like it, bc mine still kills@@nileshgardi1783
@@nileshgardi1783Did you think it would last more than a day? it was clearly a broken interaction, with an easy fix.
What about using the Arca Titron heavy slam? It forces electric procs. Not sure what you could do with that, but there’s a build idea for you. Plus with the new tennokai system full combo heavy slams are easy to achieve and practical.
You just found the next video I’ve been writing a script on :)
@@Aznvasions Looking forward to it lol
@@Aznvasions What about Sampotes?
Truly one of the builds of all time
As an acid shell sobek enjoyer, I see this as an absolute win
after watching I set this up not having the companion gun yet sucks but so far I'm running everything else and holy is it strong thanks for the build on one of my favorite frames
I love these min-maxed builds, but I also love to do some de-engineering myself. As in, take the build, and see how far it can be tuned down while still being effective and powerful, while also less finicky and more comfortable to use in none-tryhard Lv9999 contexts. This one though... this is going to be nerfed into the ground the moment DE gets a whiff of this, because it's just broken. I could take out nearly half of this build. No Priming. No Nautilus with its cordon and status-spreading. No attack speed increase. A simple Adaptation-tank Saryn build without it being min-maxed to suit this play-style, with Shock subsumed and her Toxic Lash augment for some armour strip.
It still completely savages any baseline SP mission, as well as the Netracells. It's absolutely insane, and while not an AFK build, it will definitely get nerfed. Use it while it's still available during the holidays.
Happy holidays to everyone watching 😊🎉
i knew my god roll jat kittag riven would come in handy one day lol
"I may have gone too far in a few places" - Pablo, probably
Azinvasions and Melee Influence. Name a more iconic Duo...
I wish everyone would stop saying how 'broken' everything is liked they want it fixed. Just say how much fun were having with all these crazy builds and maybe they will leave alone.
You could toss on two emerald shards and add corrosive for an armor strip and then could use any other helminth like nourish maybe or gloom.. roar. so many options
This makes me want to try turning volt into a melee weapon frame, specifically because you could drop AS on your weapon and run strength and duration for his buffs. Super high AS with high status and run Nautilus for the grouping.
You can also use a topaz archon shard for the shield regen to become invincible
This with roar and proper weighting on the melee weapon is the same build but more accesable than using bane mods js and technically applies more universaly than bane mods then if you want corrosive/armor strip just use spores and green shards
can you subsume Roar and instead of Smite mod, adding electric instead? a lot more comfy without the need to swap mods around per factions (also works on everything that doesn't have bane for them)
yes but do keep in mind it will be a lot harder to activate influence due to lower electric weight
could take a topaz shard and give your nautilus a fast hitting blast weapon and you have free shield gate at home
Hi, I've been combing through your videos, often frame by frame, to gain further understanding of build mechanics. I'm a bit confused about your mentioning that Melee Influence having quadratic scaling (around 4:30). What does that mean?
Fml just recently disolved jet kitgat riven, thought id never use it, if only i knew about your channel earlier😂
I love your fashionframe!
How big would the damage loss be if I used a regular bane instead of a primed one?
41% of Elec DPS missing, and 51% of Toxin DPS missing
Now melee influence taxi on molecular prime taxi?
You can do this better with the dual ichor incarnon too, except the toxin clouds stick around for a while instead of being a one time damage hit like the jat kittag
I love this
How many green shards are needed to make this full strip?
2
Thankyou!
Gonna run this with my Graxx Skin. Lessgo Kela De Saryn build!
LOL. You waited to drop this video to see if DE was going to nuke any of this?
There's much more uploads to come still over next few days :)
@@AznvasionsTY , how tragic for our enemies LOL
Waited for break
This update brought too many broken things for them to fix to be honest. I spent this morning running around doing 130 million damage crits with Corufell's infinite punch through... 😂
@@tomj819not broken, they brought fun finally
Where does the survivability come from in this set?
Hey azn. You should try this out soon if youre able. Im curious about the effects of the topaz shards granting shields with blast damage procs being paired with caliban. Id like to know if it will actuslly fix his synergy between his innate shield tanking mechanics that only work if you can retain the shield. Since his fusion strike already does blast damage.
What about a few Topaz Archon Shards, the one that gives back shield with blast procs ? Because of the Jat Kittag mod and the fact you use shield gating, it sounds like it could helpmaybe even free some augur mods or Brief Respit or even both depending on how many shards and how strong it ends up being ?
I don't know if that'll work, just throwing this out there.
Gamble made a video about the shards being pretty effective in health tanking. It could help but the moment you stop being able to hit a blast proc with no shields. You're pretty much dead instantly. It seems to only help so much until there's either one enemy too far away that hits you, or if you don't do enough damage to fully kill them before your shield is gone
If you want the shards to be super effective. You can use them on gauss and combining his sunder elements to have basically an arcane aegis effect at all times. Or by subsuming his ability on any other frame that has a good energy efficiency. Hildryn may actually be able to have infinite shields this way.
Or by using it on an infinite shields Caliban build. This may actually solve the issue with his synergy since the companions he creates only give you shields if you still have them.
i was thinking about using this arcane with saryn but never thought about vulcan blitz for the chain reaction
Would that work as a sobek alternative for toxic nukes with green shards? With roar and electric on the hammer?
Hey! Could you tell me how to get your banshee appearance ?
That s the stuff!
Would it be worth it to go roar instead of shock or armor strip? Extra faction damage seems like it would be super effective on this kind of build.
This just seems bloody unethical. Jet-powered bio-weapon mega-proliferation isn't *technically* accounted for in the Geneva conventions, but I'm pretty sure it's against the spirit of the thing. That being said, I love it. Keep up the bonkers builds, chef.
Hey I use Shock trooper for my Saryn setup as well with Dual Ichor 😂
Can i ask you a weirdly specific and out of topic question? I heard the incarnon perk "prelude of might" got fixed DE style and now it's basically unusable due to pierce procs.
Is this true also for the furis incarnon? Should i just run crit for braton and status for furis?
If we're using toxic lash to DPS and are missing space for an armor strip. Would it not be viable to run green shards with archon continuity? considering the toxin is coming from an ability and procing so often it seems like a good call to also have it applying corrosive.
I have a healing return saryn that proves 11 different statuses for health tanking when I’m bored rn it’s kinda busted
Slap on emerald shards for extra healing from toxin ticks XD
Dont forget grace and a life steal furis
rumblejack (forced elec proc on finisher) with ash 4 bladestorm. does the true damage get passed on to other enemies via melee influence.
the violet archon shards seem like the way to go too with this argonak for armor strip.
How much different between normal bane and prime bane? I only have Corpus one thou.
i dont know if you tested it yet or not but melee influence on Prisma ohma also is really fun and strong
Is it good enough with others wf
@@nguyenhuyduc9151 yeah, I've been melting steel path with any frame I use it on. I've only used gauss, ash, zephyr, and protea with it so far
Does the Vulcan blitz only apply to its direct weapon or can that buff be passed to exalted weapons like excaliburs exalted blade or valkyr talons?
Would this set up be better with 2 emrald arcon shards with +2 corrosive stacks?
There's a section about armor strip at 5:00
Summary:
For Spores, it would requires range and his build has 34% range.
Venom Dose (the augment for Spores that adds Corrosive) would work well but it wasn't necessary for the level he was playing at
Also, armor strip is way less powerful overall with the new Jade Shadows update so it is not as needed anymore
why reinforced bond with Nautilus? It can't trigger it, acorrding to the wiki.
How would Xata's Whisper interact with this?
Question: Does Quiver and Volt go well together with empowered quiver augment? I have been meaning of a meme build that does some crazy damage but weird to set up.
helminth version of quiver only offers cloak and noise arrow, you wouldn't be able to use the dashwire for crit damage. you'd still need a teammate playing ivara with empowered quiver. once you set it up, it would be a fun camping setup with all that crit dmg tho
@@tlhpr0vidence579 Ah I see, tbf I didn't have quiver subsumed yet but that's good to know
Couldn't you swap the Bane for an Electric mod and use Roar instead of Shock Trooper? That would also free up a mod slot on Saryn
Also makes it harder to proc influence due to lower electric weight, but yes it does work
How about losing the bane and shock trooper for roar and an electric mod on the weapon?
Works but noticeably harder to activate melee influence
what stats should I look for on a sobek riven with this setup?
with the toxic lash augment to make the toxin clouds will this build make it so the clouds can proc melee influence too?
That augment is awful, it counts as ability kill and has no status chance
Just a query, the mandonel has a buffing alt-fire and I'm curious if it would work with vauban turrets, i feel like it would be a great buffer for it
it actually does
Would this activate the blast options on topaz archon shards?
They work with blast status, not blast damage afaik, and I don't see the mod applying blast status here, it merely deals blast damage
So no, I don't think it would
To camp I use this on zenistar with kullervos 4 on saryns 4 and magus agress
With gas electric zenistar it's od
new yorker detected
@@drask1988 not from New York od is used in gaming not as much as op
@@AMV_KINGDOM_mv i've been gaming for 25 years and never heard od used once as an alternative to op/broken
@@drask1988 25 years doesn't mean 25 of the same games you have popular game like destiny and Warframe and then you got games likes borderlands etc so depending on community especially mobile it differs
@@AMV_KINGDOM_mv safe to say i didnt mean 25 years of playing single community games. do a little test: enter "gaming od" and "gaming op" and see which ones mention universal gaming lingo. i remember od coming up in fighting games, but that comes from the new yorker "overdose" too, which is why i consider it NY lingo and not a gaming term
Are there any enemies that are even capable to Survive a Saryn with Melee Influence. Do we just need enemies that are straight up immune to status effects to survive this lol
There are but not really as you can strip armor with saryns 1 with 2 green shards meaning your attacking pure health so 60% of health plus lash is pretty much dead not considering the toxic DMG over time
Yall have to try the nunchucks that have electric on them with influence😂
Is Roar just overkill?
Also makes it harder to proc influence due to lower electric weight, but yes it does work
Is this the 10th Melee influence build?
How do you put shock trooper on saryn? i havent played in awhile lol
Through the helminth system, you can acquire the segment from Son on Deimos. You have to sacrifice normal Volt to the helminth first and then you can subsume Shock onto Saryn.
Is this build still working as intended? Any nerfs to this? I have a great jat kitag riven so I might switch to this but I know you push builds further than most so your builds are more prone to nerfs and bug fixes to affect them I find. Hope it still works
Thanks for the build......but how long before DE buff it 😂
Can I sub in a riven that gives: 211% melee damage / 115% status chance / 1.57x dmg to Infested / 0.53x dmg to Grineer? ... instead of the bane mod.
Would this work with nova too?
H8 this situations. I just sold jut kittag, cuz never see any tenno play with this melee, and here i found these vid... Why is always happens?
I wonder if i can sell my riven for this melee. It did roll crit chance, crit dmg and attack speed as well.
But i cant use it myself yet cuz its locked to mr 14 XD
Wait, So it's all Spin to Win?
A nice and solid idea, didnt worked well for me, the dual ichor setup was better for me, but i do like those theorycraft builds and ideas. The volt helminth however was genial and worked amazingly well.
Can this set up work on xaku with xata whisper?
How does the Nautilus attack without Assault Mode?
Slot it over reinforced, was a mistake
Your saryn colors look a lot like mine.
can u help me , i have everything in this setup i just dont sem to survive like you , can u give tips or help please
Dual Ichor Incarnon make this build even stupider
Hmm yes influence
ack brunt icnarnon
innodem attack helicopter
argo vel heavy
so many
Spin 2 win is back😂
What's pulling the enemies ?
Nautilus
How do you even block? I just have it happen on it's own sometimes. I don't know of a way to actually do it on purpose.
on PC, the default is right mouse. I don't know what it is on console
@@Aznvasions That's melee attack, not block.
@@void2258 melee attack default on PC is E and left mouse.
@@Aznvasions PC default is left click for gun and right click or E for melee.
@@void2258 right click is ADS for PC on default. Unless you pull out your melee, then it becomes block instead. How do you ADS if right click is melee? Middle mouse has always been alternate fire aka mode switch, so that can’t be the default ADS button, as well as using middle mouse to ADS is ridiculous for inconvenient as well. What is your ADS bound to by default?
Does crit matter here or can I go full status?
can go full status
@@Aznvasions does the elemental from influence also crit?
Just got rid of a Kitag riven -_-
These videos are why i had to get saryn
just got a riven for it and sold it before watching this video, fukkkkkkkkk
does this still work?
no
too strong)
Negative range saryn… BLASPHEMY
normally im against nerfs, but damn this shits gotta go
yeah this shits stupid af, idk who's in charge of this but they're an idiot, balancing is still a thing
That’s messed up dude
Second.
Amazing build as always
Ok maybe this is TOO much even for warframe
Too bad build feels like ass unless there is no extreme density. So no general fun in bounties and what not :/
Its made for SP. If you wanna clear bounties fast its easy as fuck
I'm too afraid to build anything, just to be nerfed in the end, might as well quit warframe (again)
Kuva Jat Kittag when DE?
We already have a hammer as kuva. Would be boring
First
Strongest..? No. It is not. You know you have not discovered everything yet ;)
i hate nightmare, his content is totally useless, not your is useful.
Can we mod the weapon with electric and use xata's whisper instead of shock trooper for more multiplication in dipping damage?
was wondering this as well, also wondering if putting xata on say Kullervo would be nice with this jat kittag setup