His nickname was the rapist and his crimes as a police officer went undetected for twenty years.. What does this tell you about his colleagues who are probably still in the police.
The very serious failing here is with the Vetting Agency (FCO) who fast tracked this very dangerous individual into an Armed Police Role with checking his background out correctly
I remember the late Robert Marks, the one-time Commissioner for the MET stating that words to the effect that ‘there were always a few rotten apples in a barrel’. That was back in the 1970s. My impression is that it has become far worse. Scan through almost any news report and there are stories of police officers committing shocking crimes; that’s on top of those who are ‘merely’ swinging the lead. I live in Scotland and had a policeman living opposite me; he barely bothered to hide his nefarious behaviour which was widely known about in the local force. He was eventually charged and slung out of the police, but served only about a couple of weeks in prison.
I hate the way they use the term “a few rotten apples” because they don’t understand what it means. The full saying is “a few rotten apples spoils the whole barrel”. You can’t just fish a couple of the rotten ones out once the rot seeps in, you have to tip the whole lot out, go through them all to find the good ones, and start over
It’s far more than a few bad apples, there’s a few good apples in a rotten barrel, the barrel itself is rotten too. The worst case I know of, a woman was r/ped by several on duty cops in her house. Sounds unbelievable, right. She won’t report it, too scared. Who would listen, when they let it slide time and time again. It’s David against several levels of Goliath. Many women don’t report their sexual assaults, especially when it’s a cop. The last one I know who did, she did go to court and even though he didn’t get jailed, he did get outed with name and face photo in papers and lost his job in the Met.
That's a fantastic comment. The presenter keeps saying "how could a police officer do this?" Well why couldn't a police officer do it? I work in Intelligence, UK Security and Counter Terrorism.. a lot of that includes vetting. People need to understand that professions such as policing, teaching, doctors, judges... are made up of people, just like us. Therefore the same people in society will also be in these roles. We need to stop assuming they will necessarily be held to a higher moral standard or to have a moral compass. You are not your job. We see a lot of terrible people who will focus on particular professions for a reason - the power it brings, the opportunity to interact with certain people in the public. And they will go through a great deal of training just to do that. It's like psychopaths who become doctors or surgeons... They are not surgeons who become psychopaths. Most people are good in general, a lot aren't though. That's true everywhere.
@@NigelShepherd-z7k Thank you for understanding. There are horrific people everywhere but the do not have 'evil' tattooed on their foreheads. Every profession has bad people - think of priests for example and they have a great deal of vetting ^^
I don’t think what he did reflects badly on the whole police, it’s the fact that everyone knew who he was…they had the power to do something to stop him and didn’t, this reflects terribly on the police force and is a major reason they are not trusted. Institutionally racist, sexist and protective of their own whether they’re good or bad.
@@cassleahg487 Nothing could reflect badly on the police these days - most of them are only fit to read social media posts and cry when they read something they define as hate as long as it is not a leftie's hate^^
@@cassleahg487 The fact that colleagues had such terrible nicknames for him is very telling. That didn't come from nowhere. So there must have been at least some awareness of his previous lewd behaviour. I can only assume that several colleagues must have been ok with that - making them no better than him. They are still within the force somewhere, therefore tainting the whole force in my humble opinion. Wasn't it just the other day that several officers were dismissed for exchanging ind****t photos? And what about going back a couple of years to the two sisters who had their lives taken brutally in a park and officers were posing for photos at the crime scene, to then share. This is happening too often and once is too many. 😳
He wasn’t undetected or missed. They knew and pulled ranks ‘he’s one of us, he’s our mate, he’s our colleague’ They cover for one another all the time, I know from personal experience and other female cops will tell you the same.
Comments like yours are absolutely ridiculous. You are one of the people who spread shyte on council estates without a shred of evidence. Just stick to spending all your benefits money on cigs
The moral breakdown of society is obvious in all professions but this one is alarming because we (as women and girls ) will hesitate from now on to approach a policeman for help.
Harvey Weinstein offended against 80 women and they did not say anything for many years. The vast majority never said anything until the newspapers did.
Well Mr Policeman, is this report headed for the same bin as Baroness Louise Casey's report into the Met Police last March 2023. Apologies and lessons have been learnt, is all we hear. Sarah Everard is dead because of the failings of Police
WHY? are you all so surprised at his conduct, it is the norm in the police to be a criminal, best of all ! Nothing will change. Apart that is from the recruitment of yet more criminals! I do accept there are some honest police officers,but they are in the minority.
The Police rank system is not fit for purpose , this couldn’t happen in the British military ; we have a whole range of NCO’s who work alongside the rank and file. He was unsupervised on a daily basis ; a good Sgt/Major ensures these things never happen.
You must be joking?the Military really arent fit for purpose. Theres plenty of rapists, misogynists and bullies in the military, just gets hidden from public and swept under the rug. Once in their trade that's it standards drop massively,plenty of NCO's and senior officers are fat useless slobs who couldnt tell their arse from their elbow.
Not undetected...ignored!!!
Absolutely, how was he undetected? There were many complaints about him as I understand it. 🤨
Yes 100 percent and still is
When I want to be a taxi driver the police went back 15 years to wen I was 14 and that’s what the police should do
Oh and that was steeling milk of the doorstep
Just look at the police commissioner he’s a retired pensioner for gods sake he was brought back to work that’s the choice we have disgusting
His nickname was the rapist and his crimes as a police officer went undetected for twenty years.. What does this tell you about his colleagues who are probably still in the police.
@@karlxx13 Agreed
So the police covered up all his crimes
Looks that way.
Police protecting police, but always tell lies to convict innocent people.
Police don't convict anyone dickhead the courts do
The very serious failing here is with the Vetting Agency (FCO) who fast tracked this very dangerous individual into an Armed Police Role with checking his background out correctly
Your so thick he hadn't commited a crime prior to joining the police , he offended after getting into the police force you fucking dick
All the offences before becoming a police, during his tenure as a police and nothing. Well I'm not impressed.
I remember the late Robert Marks, the one-time Commissioner for the MET stating that words to the effect that ‘there were always a few rotten apples in a barrel’. That was back in the 1970s. My impression is that it has become far worse. Scan through almost any news report and there are stories of police officers committing shocking crimes; that’s on top of those who are ‘merely’ swinging the lead. I live in Scotland and had a policeman living opposite me; he barely bothered to hide his nefarious behaviour which was widely known about in the local force. He was eventually charged and slung out of the police, but served only about a couple of weeks in prison.
I hate the way they use the term “a few rotten apples” because they don’t understand what it means.
The full saying is “a few rotten apples spoils the whole barrel”. You can’t just fish a couple of the rotten ones out once the rot seeps in, you have to tip the whole lot out, go through them all to find the good ones, and start over
It’s far more than a few bad apples, there’s a few good apples in a rotten barrel, the barrel itself is rotten too.
The worst case I know of, a woman was r/ped by several on duty cops in her house. Sounds unbelievable, right. She won’t report it, too scared. Who would listen, when they let it slide time and time again. It’s David against several levels of Goliath. Many women don’t report their sexual assaults, especially when it’s a cop. The last one I know who did, she did go to court and even though he didn’t get jailed, he did get outed with name and face photo in papers and lost his job in the Met.
I wonder if her family take the police forces to court.
I am sure there are plenty like him in every profession.
That's a fantastic comment.
The presenter keeps saying "how could a police officer do this?" Well why couldn't a police officer do it?
I work in Intelligence, UK Security and Counter Terrorism.. a lot of that includes vetting.
People need to understand that professions such as policing, teaching, doctors, judges... are made up of people, just like us.
Therefore the same people in society will also be in these roles.
We need to stop assuming they will necessarily be held to a higher moral standard or to have a moral compass. You are not your job.
We see a lot of terrible people who will focus on particular professions for a reason - the power it brings, the opportunity to interact with certain people in the public. And they will go through a great deal of training just to do that.
It's like psychopaths who become doctors or surgeons... They are not surgeons who become psychopaths.
Most people are good in general, a lot aren't though. That's true everywhere.
@@NigelShepherd-z7k Thank you for understanding. There are horrific people everywhere but the do not have 'evil' tattooed on their foreheads. Every profession has bad people - think of priests for example and they have a great deal of vetting ^^
I don’t think what he did reflects badly on the whole police, it’s the fact that everyone knew who he was…they had the power to do something to stop him and didn’t, this reflects terribly on the police force and is a major reason they are not trusted. Institutionally racist, sexist and protective of their own whether they’re good or bad.
@@cassleahg487 Nothing could reflect badly on the police these days - most of them are only fit to read social media posts and cry when they read something they define as hate as long as it is not a leftie's hate^^
@@cassleahg487 The fact that colleagues had such terrible nicknames for him is very telling. That didn't come from nowhere. So there must have been at least some awareness of his previous lewd behaviour.
I can only assume that several colleagues must have been ok with that - making them no better than him. They are still within the force somewhere, therefore tainting the whole force in my humble opinion.
Wasn't it just the other day that several officers were dismissed for exchanging ind****t photos?
And what about going back a couple of years to the two sisters who had their lives taken brutally in a park and officers were posing for photos at the crime scene, to then share.
This is happening too often and once is too many. 😳
I don’t understand why this happened especially in the 20th century!!!🙁sarah would have been alive if the police had taken action!!!🤔
He wasn’t undetected or missed. They knew and pulled ranks ‘he’s one of us, he’s our mate, he’s our colleague’
They cover for one another all the time, I know from personal experience and other female cops will tell you the same.
Exactly. They only went so hard on him in the end because the case was so high profile they had no choice.
Comments like yours are absolutely ridiculous. You are one of the people who spread shyte on council estates without a shred of evidence. Just stick to spending all your benefits money on cigs
@@RobbieMeadows-oz4cx What evidence do you have that they live or hang around council estates and is on benefits and smoke ''cigs'' officer?
@@darkwoods1954 Looool . My three year old dog can write a more coherent response. TRY HARDER DUMMY ..
@@darkwoods1954 I have evidence. You should see nicotine stains in their underwear 😉 😏 😜
The moral breakdown of society is obvious in all professions but this one is alarming because we (as women and girls ) will hesitate from now on to approach a policeman for help.
Because women stay quiet and protect bad men.
So do men! His male colleagues kept quiet as well, therefore protecting him.
@@kerrycook6634 - not true. Also men were not being attacked and flashed by him. Illogical argument.
Harvey Weinstein offended against 80 women and they did not say anything for many years. The vast majority never said anything until the newspapers did.
pigs protect pigs
Well Mr Policeman, is this report headed for the same bin as Baroness Louise Casey's report into the Met Police last March 2023. Apologies and lessons have been learnt, is all we hear. Sarah Everard is dead because of the failings of Police
Just look at the commissioner he a pensioner who was brought back to work that says it all and is useless as the out going one say no more
WHY? are you all so surprised at his conduct, it is the norm in the police to be a criminal, best of all ! Nothing will change. Apart that is from the recruitment of yet more criminals!
I do accept there are some honest police officers,but they are in the minority.
The police are like a chocolate fire guard.
They were not undetected it was well known and it was thought that’s what cops do and do by the looks of things
The Police rank system is not fit for purpose , this couldn’t happen in the British military ; we have a whole range of NCO’s who work alongside the rank and file. He was unsupervised on a daily basis ; a good Sgt/Major ensures these things never happen.
You must be joking?the Military really arent fit for purpose. Theres plenty of rapists, misogynists and bullies in the military, just gets hidden from public and swept under the rug. Once in their trade that's it standards drop massively,plenty of NCO's and senior officers are fat useless slobs who couldnt tell their arse from their elbow.
So has Andy burnham Tony Blair the Conservative Party Labour Party 100 years of lies deceit
Waynes innocent of all of this!
Yowza!
Police protecting police, but liei
Boooo
omg
Uk is long time gone……