St. Louis IX vs. Baibars - The Battle of Mansourah, 1250

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  • @AV57
    @AV57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    It really is mind blowing that Western kings personally led crusades. It really goes to show that crusades were more than just some war.

    • @Jelly_Juice2006
      @Jelly_Juice2006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yea, the people who say they all just wanted land, are absolutely dumb

    • @hamzasyed551
      @hamzasyed551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      AV 57 I believe that some joined for land and some for piety but anyways it is cool to know that what human devotion can lead too

    • @BALLARDTWIN
      @BALLARDTWIN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Jelly_Juice2006 ok let me tell you right now
      It was about land and wealth

    • @misaelfraga8196
      @misaelfraga8196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@BALLARDTWIN no it wasn't. Many nobles went bankrupt funding their journey on a Crusade.

    • @thehunter144
      @thehunter144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lol he was captured in egypt

  • @OtherRealmProductions
    @OtherRealmProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The video looks really good!
    Great improvement!

  • @TheTenthLeper
    @TheTenthLeper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    LOVE the new format, similar to other channels but much more saturated in the minutia of crusade knowledge.

  • @GermanConquistador08
    @GermanConquistador08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutely love this format! Probably the best I've seen of it.
    We'd love to see more

  • @islamrisul9063
    @islamrisul9063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Great warrior 💪👑 🔥Sultan Rakunuddin Baibars miss u 😭💝from Bangladesh.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Baibars the Cuman😍😍😍😍😍

    • @arabta3mya588
      @arabta3mya588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Dystopian Duke yup being held in chains, guarded by a eunuch named Sobih and paying 1/3 of france’s income as a ransom for release.

    • @Arab--Man
      @Arab--Man 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      miss him from bangaladesh?
      😮 what a cringe comment

    • @HamzaKhan-wx2om
      @HamzaKhan-wx2om 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Arab--Manchill 😂

    • @Arab--Man
      @Arab--Man 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HamzaKhan-wx2om ok non-arab

  • @AVOIDAVOIDVOID
    @AVOIDAVOIDVOID 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    quality work, highly enjoyable

    • @tryhardf844
      @tryhardf844 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Baghatur Tarkhan
      He did.

  • @rhodie1645
    @rhodie1645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sick format, really enjoyed this!

  • @victxbr
    @victxbr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great improvement, this channel was already amazing, with this new format is 10x better

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Didn't Louis die (of plague I think) during another crusade against Tunis?

  • @mashpotatoinasock
    @mashpotatoinasock 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interestingly, the large bulk of the vanguard force with Robert that cross the river to mansurah first was the knight templar. There is a primary source describing how Robert argued they should push forward but the templar master and the hospitallers both adamantly argued they should not as it would cut them off. Robert of artois vehemently called them all cowards and shouted that they lacked courage. The templar master, not being able to afford to insult to his and the Templars courage, was forced to charge a suicidal charge.

  • @julias2704
    @julias2704 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ok, that was pretty cool!! Loved the speech bubbles 😂

    • @julias2704
      @julias2704 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Alexander Knight Naw, they were fun!

  • @Chilly_Billy
    @Chilly_Billy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the amusing captions. Added a bit of levity but didn't detract from J. Stephen's narration. The moving battle maps are a definite plus. Very nice work gentlemen!

  • @cjm7685
    @cjm7685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is beyond perfect thank you for all your hard work!!!!

  • @orderoftheredstarofbethlehem
    @orderoftheredstarofbethlehem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the new video format

  • @scrollo100
    @scrollo100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well done 👌 this new format is very good.

  • @MrTristanryan
    @MrTristanryan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dig the new vid format, very cool

  • @minoutarromantic5805
    @minoutarromantic5805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Poor Louis, his Crusade didn't have much outside reinforcement from the other Christian nations and the Pope, he went crusading with almost only his knights basically.

    • @aurangzebalamgir3016
      @aurangzebalamgir3016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xerox6467 in the medieval era it was impossible to defeat muslims & their sultanats only mongols were able to hold victory against muslims for few years but few years later they even got taken care of all their soldiers in muslims Lands were killed and the remaining mongol people had to convert to Islam almost all mongols were converted to Islam.

    • @theentertainmentnation4694
      @theentertainmentnation4694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@xerox6467 15k is a very low number to invade egypt bro dont act dumb

    • @vincentmedina
      @vincentmedina ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xerox6467 War isn't necessarily determined by the number of forces. A lot of factors come into play like logistics, positions, and etc. 15k is a low number especially for an ATTACKING army in an unfamiliar land with well positioned and prepared defenders.

  • @محمدعماد-ي9ع6ص
    @محمدعماد-ي9ع6ص 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I am from Mansoura in Egypt and my grandfather told me that he was killed in the house of Ibn Luqman

    • @RealCrusadesHistory
      @RealCrusadesHistory  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who was?

    • @روانالمرشدي-ح7ض
      @روانالمرشدي-ح7ض 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      لا سجناه وطلبنا فدية مقابل تحريره

    • @thutmose7506
      @thutmose7506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He was not killed he was freed after France paid a ransom and the surrender of the city of Damietta. He was imprisoned in House of Ibn Luqman which still exist in modern day AL Mansurah.

  • @causticmedia3621
    @causticmedia3621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great work! Definitely looking forward to future episodes. Congrats!

  • @randommuslim2149
    @randommuslim2149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was really the beginning of the end for the salibi

  • @zachwilkins3062
    @zachwilkins3062 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There are little pieces of intricate detail in some of the animations that further reveal your passion of such things among all the hard work you two put in.

  • @joshcruise2657
    @joshcruise2657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I loved the visuals in this video. Real Crusades History just keeps getting better. If only Louis did as well.

  • @WarDankEagle
    @WarDankEagle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really love the art style!

  • @TwentythreePER
    @TwentythreePER 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow I heartily enjoyed this new format and am incredibly impressed. I love all the details of the number and types of troops, the battle formations, maps, and video game footage. I've found St. Louis and the VII Crusade to be incredibly interesting, as well as the 13th century in general. I hope to see more like this about this campaign and others.

  • @xmaniac99
    @xmaniac99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A song has been made about King Louis and his death - Le Roi Louis; it is a beautiful song. Keep in mind that is it 12th century language thereofre a bit more close to vulgar latin than modern french.
    You can find it by searching for "Le Roi Louis".

    • @amrmoustafa7569
      @amrmoustafa7569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Muslims set him free after his wife paid a ransom for what his forces had did in Damieta

  • @ariyoiansky291
    @ariyoiansky291 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Woah Bro... This was friggin great, dude! Your excellent research, fluid arrangements, and delivery as a narrator has always been enough to keep your content on par with the best and fanciest of history channels; but this most recent collab with Alexander Knight has just put your channel on steroids! I was very impressed, and it shows your most recent collaborator has a passion for creativity to go along with his visual capabilities.

  • @carlos89784
    @carlos89784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved the video and the added animations. Well done!

  • @fitzroys5255
    @fitzroys5255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Are there any records of the way that the Egyptians treated king Louis during his time in custody?
    Thanks for the videos, have been enjoying them a lot recently

    • @fitzroys5255
      @fitzroys5255 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alexander Knight Knew it meself, could be a question for the livestream maybe, thanks

    • @randommuslim2149
      @randommuslim2149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Me The mujahiddin didn't see him as a threat that's why they let him live

    • @balgruff
      @balgruff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Usually they would treat Kings and other noble people with a lot of respect because of their value as a trading "card"

    • @AL4N22_PELIT
      @AL4N22_PELIT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Lmfao no they treated him like a street urchin, they even created a mocking song that they sang over and over again on the day they released him.

    • @جهادال-ش3ث
      @جهادال-ش3ث ปีที่แล้ว

      @@balgruffnah not him he is a joke we’re I live

  • @tacitronin4970
    @tacitronin4970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The next step for a great channel! I look forward to more videos that show us the viewer what the layout of the battle looked like. Really helps to add to the history.

  • @10rey72
    @10rey72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stephen, great improvement!

  • @humansenpai5738
    @humansenpai5738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the crusades, you’ve got all of ‘em covered

  • @joen4895
    @joen4895 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this , this is really great new territory!

  • @poinocomer4588
    @poinocomer4588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing work on the new format! Squares and rectangles shaking against each other always seem to make things way more enjoyable and intuitive and I appreciate it a ton.

  • @raniolvespanssenlafayett6762
    @raniolvespanssenlafayett6762 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That it could be Crusaders story on anime

  • @t0m653
    @t0m653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here you should advertise Rise of Kingdom in your channel. Baibar is the commander I am using now lol

  • @derrickpeterson3400
    @derrickpeterson3400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love the new format. Also I'm reading John Gillingham's book on Richard the Lionheart on your recommendation and it's great. Very insightful. Looking forward to more great content.

  • @Adil_Turysbek_TVRC
    @Adil_Turysbek_TVRC 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Baibars the great and the good old days.

  • @adamnordskog1231
    @adamnordskog1231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very stimulating!

  • @612ent7
    @612ent7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So u won’t mention that king Louis him self was captured in this battle

    • @RealCrusadesHistory
      @RealCrusadesHistory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He wasn't captured in this battle, he was captured in the battle after this. This battle is specifically about the Battle of al-Mansourah. Louis was captured after the Battle of Fariskur. Check your facts before you comment.

    • @Alex-tx2em
      @Alex-tx2em ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@RealCrusadesHistory Baibars bullied your crusaders hahha

  • @stephenh9483
    @stephenh9483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow fantastic

  • @tauceti8341
    @tauceti8341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This was amazing dude!
    It annoys me that Robert had basically one the day. If he had just waited for the rest of the men to join him instead of being so brazen!
    UGHHH! makes me angry

    • @Sealdeam
      @Sealdeam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It ran in the family I guess, his son and great-grandson Robert II and Robert III seem to have been reckless men as well.

    • @g.sergiusfidenas6650
      @g.sergiusfidenas6650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well the Artois Capetians had an awful luck in battle Robert I, Robert II, Philip of Artois and Robert III, four consecutive generations of the family either died in battle or died due wounds they got in battle.

    • @johnrooney507
      @johnrooney507 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ The video showed that they had a reasonable debate and not everyone was mindlessly devoted to the same plan of action, but someone had to make a decision which the king did.
      There are first hand accounts of this crusade, well worth reading before making a judgement on their faith, and mindset. Some just wanted to go home.

    • @quadeong7453
      @quadeong7453 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ Its more of a lesson of chasing after personal glory instead of cooperating with the army as a whole. His plan was bold, but it left the army in a precarious position

    • @youtubeaccount9980
      @youtubeaccount9980 ปีที่แล้ว

      very frustrating. i suppose robert's fate was God's way of punishing him for his pride

  • @randomlyweirdjeff4638
    @randomlyweirdjeff4638 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My ancestor Lord Thomas Gibson was in the battle of Fariskur he was the Gold Keeper and paid the ransom for the release of King Louis and the other crusaders that were held captive with him. My ancestor was born in Buchanan Stirlingshire Scotland. He died in Mid Calder Midlothian Scotland.

  • @syedharis1906
    @syedharis1906 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Baibarrrrr was the man

  • @hh3311
    @hh3311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why you did not mention that king louis was captured in this battle?

    • @RealCrusadesHistory
      @RealCrusadesHistory  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Because he wasn't captured in this battle. He was captured after the next battle.

    • @hh3311
      @hh3311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RealCrusadesHistory thank you for your answer, i heard in a french documentary that he was captured in Mansura.

    • @suukkun
      @suukkun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A few months after Al-Mansurah, at the battle of Fariskur, Mamluks captured the king.

    • @جهادال-ش3ث
      @جهادال-ش3ث ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RealCrusadesHistorynah because you don’t like that part

    • @PhoenixPhenom777
      @PhoenixPhenom777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@جهادال-ش3ثNo, because he wasn’t captured in this battle. You show your ignorance 🤦‍♂️

  • @Salve_Regina8
    @Salve_Regina8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man I love your videos.
    I am a Roman Catholic.

    • @Salve_Regina8
      @Salve_Regina8 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Theo Lionheart I am not a Mormon. I am a Roman Catholic and there is no such thing as what you said.

    • @DConan-jj6dm
      @DConan-jj6dm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Salve_Regina8
      What is difference between catholicism and Roman catholicism?

    • @NEY-uu3lx
      @NEY-uu3lx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DConan-jj6dm Nothing, you see after the reformation in england, they called themselves "English Catholics" as the difference was more about the politics and regalistic policies of Henri VI.

  • @marwanmezo8622
    @marwanmezo8622 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    historty and graghic and sound just awesome

  • @omaribrahim8693
    @omaribrahim8693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mansora literally means victress

  • @memermanmeme5732
    @memermanmeme5732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What game is this in the beginning

    • @ahmadnaser8172
      @ahmadnaser8172 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Attila total war with mods...

  • @بهايموحميرقردوغانابوشخة
    @بهايموحميرقردوغانابوشخة 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    E. G. Y. P. T
    🇪🇬🇪🇬💪💪💪💪💪💪🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬🇪🇬

  • @mahmoudhawary9964
    @mahmoudhawary9964 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I proud of egyption 😅😅😅 they arrested him

  • @ahmedjamal4892
    @ahmedjamal4892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how unbiased you told the story.. history should be free from forgery.

  • @Lord_Machiavelli
    @Lord_Machiavelli 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vive le Roi Louis!

  • @kennetholiver954
    @kennetholiver954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They should have taken Alexandria and held the coast and built that up. Cairo really was a city too far.

    • @kennetholiver954
      @kennetholiver954 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      V R maybe indeed. But the crusaders would probably have gotten reinforcement from europe. But it`s all just speculations.🤔

    • @RealCrusadesHistory
      @RealCrusadesHistory  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Alexandria would've fallen quickly, just like Damietta. Crusader fleets were far superior, and Alexandria could've been held long term with support from Cyprus.

    • @randommuslim2149
      @randommuslim2149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Alexander Knight Which occasions? Because to me the it was the Mamluks who destroyed and were superior to the knights

    • @balgruff
      @balgruff 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Taking Alexandria would be a great idea if they didnt have Jerusalem on the horizon, it would take a lot of time to damage the Egyptians

    • @IblewuponyourfaceIII
      @IblewuponyourfaceIII 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@balgruff you mean Arab/Egyptians cause the Arabs ruled Egypt since the 600’s.

  • @cenkiss2331
    @cenkiss2331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Attila total war mod is better than medieval 2 . Good choice.

  • @IkarusZmedieval
    @IkarusZmedieval 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very interesting, this type of video. You can get wider audiance, not just history lovers.

  • @fullfist
    @fullfist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Improved format. Very colorful.
    MONTJOIE

  • @zer0875
    @zer0875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Louis wasnt thinking right!

  • @petercroves8562
    @petercroves8562 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i find it of note that Jerusalem was destroyed in 1244 and little of this is said or noted, unlike 70AD

    • @cuzimmoody6470
      @cuzimmoody6470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it wasnt destroyed like the romans did stone by stone, but was sacked like looting homes and civilians then leaving the city it was more of a sack or a plunder rather than a destruction like the romans

  • @ZamaninTimuru
    @ZamaninTimuru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Conqueror Baibars

  • @youngpark1198
    @youngpark1198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Louie should have attacked ascalon first then to damietta, from there they march along the coast just like richard in the third crusade but damietta to jaffa then to Jerusalem instead of cairo. Once word that reaches in europe that Jerusalem has been captured again by Christians the Pope might send reinforcements

    • @syedahmed1026
      @syedahmed1026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Only problem is Louis was not Richard and Baibars was not Saladin.

  • @achillesmann1773
    @achillesmann1773 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should have paid Ragnar for backup. They showed real grit though.

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Baibars the Cuman😍😍😍

  • @MohamedElbna
    @MohamedElbna 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Remember my words, Jerusalem will soon be liberated by the armies of Egypt

    • @muhammadadeel8639
      @muhammadadeel8639 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sisi is a Munafiq, he and current Egypt would be humiliated for their alliance with the Zionists

  • @skanderberg8701
    @skanderberg8701 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All glory to Lord Jesus

  • @mandaboiarry4366
    @mandaboiarry4366 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nazareth is a key