My adult daughter has a mid Wheel drive Permobil M3. It is a wonderful wheelchair and she does not go anywhere without it. We have a 2020 Dodge Grand Caravan and it has the Bruno curbsider to pick it up and she also has a braun turny seat. She will not take the manual chair at all even when we only go out for drives however I see her point. She loves that wheelchair. She may drive very slowly but she feels totally secure and independent with it. That wheelchair also goes up that I can look at her at face level. Thanks for the info. It is great for all to see the differences.
I just got the Q700M power chair last year. On June 28th. It looks exactly like the one in the video. Except the frame color is red. I have the tilt-feature on it too. I had the QM-710 power chair from 2016-2022. It got retired as my backup power chair. It sits out in my garage now.
I own a power FWD, a power MWD and a manual RWD.. I'll tell you right now.. go MWD.. all the way. RWD maneuverability sucks indoors. FWD has more maneuverability than RWD but it sucks out and about because the front anti-tippers are so low to the ground sometimes it's impossible just crossing the street if the sidewalk angle is a bit too steep or going through a door with a high threshold you can get stuck.. MWD is the best because the front casters allow you to go over thing or even clear a bit of snow before your drive wheels so you are less likely to get stuck and you can also maneuver on the spot, like turning around in the bathroom.
I prefer the mid wheel drive also and oddly enough, I just got one of the chairs that you featured in this video the Q 700 M from sunrise and quickie I got mine with tilt and recline, and I am having nothing but great luck with it so far
Most power wheelchair manufacturers offer FREE IN HOME Test Drives. Your own living arrangement, lifestyle, and physical condition are different from almost anyone else. If you truly enjoy and know what's waiting outdoors for you, particularly, pray for healing. Forty-three years of quadriplegia, and now age sixty-eight, I can STILL make a Permobil F5 (fwd) power wheelchair work out in our apartment. I love the outdoors but have no 'off-road' expectations from my choice, just the best ride and dependability available. This will be my third fwd pwc out of the thirteen wheelchairs that have been retired with the exception of my 2014 fwd Permobil sitting in our 2nd bedroom. Got deep pockets - buy a used Majic Mobility Extreme 4 all-wheel drive power wheelchair form Marc's Mobility and carry a cell phone. I have no idea why push handles are installed on the backrest of any 300 lbs. complex power wheelchair other than to destroy your surroundings and backrest assembly - the q700m by Quickie has fold-in push handles and stay clear.
If only they were not expensive I have muscular dystrophy 😢 always in pain never had this comfortable power chair 😢i have that weak uncomfortable one the basic
I have a FWD hoveround. Also just got a MWD Permobil. Although when you compare the specifications they are very similar I can turn the Hiveround in my small bathroom either the door closed I can not do that with the permibil Also can not pull up close to sink or toilet with MWD. Also, driving the MWD, the front caster wheels make you jiggle all over, while doesn't happen with Hoveround. Do wish hoveround had swing away joystick, and get only power lift, not the other power seat adjustments that the Prrmibil gas.
I have been using a power wheelchair just about my entire life. I HATE midwheel drive chairs but it seems to be all that is made anymore . Yes, a midwheel drive is capable of tighter turns which is helpful in an apartment. But the second you have to drive over any kind of bump, it creates a see-saw sort of action in which the chair is momentarily balancing on two wheels before violently rocking backwards or forwards. Then the front and rear wheels lift the drive wheels off the ground causing total loss of control. Fine for perfectly flat ground...terrible for real world. Front wheel drive is very wonky...the whole back end of the chair which you cant see swings around like a tail. stick with rear wheel drive unless your apartment is too small to navigate .
I appreciate yr models but ...if 1or2 steps to climb from pavilion to gate... how? Don't hv slope...at all n can't break law of govt to add slope...pls advice so I can go out indpntly n enjoy Life on own.... Thankful
Have you considered a portable ramp? Depending on how tall the stairs are, you could purchase a 5 - or 6-foot multifold ramp for situations such as these.
after a year in one ive come to the very real and sad conclusion that these chairs are built without a doubt to enrich corporations only, made to look and sound fancy and techy in quick glances and on paper so they can get as many out as possible at ridiculous prices like 20. -30 grand when really worth one thousand on their best day, still sold with lead acid batteries most die in a few months cus nobody has 8 hrs a day to charge those heavy relics properly not to mention the two antique batteries weigh 100 pounds. They put the drive wheels in the middle and go apeshit about the advanced turn radius lol duh or make it recline like a lazyboy and put on 10 thousand just for that not even using hydraulics what a croc of crapola these are i mean they serve a purpose but serve is a strong word it would be nice to see a real chair with some real engineering and such be introduced for a real price if u need a example of how worthless they are buy one brand new and try to sell it tommorow upu will drop 25 thousand easy and be lucky to sell it for two seriously
You nailed it. Outside of the seating system, the drive design hasn't changed much in 50 years. What can this industry do in order to acquire these devices for pennies on the dollar? Is it the manufacturer's strangling the providers for the cost of the tech, or vice-versa?
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Interesting,many thanks. I had a back wheel to start with, I much prefer the middle wheel drive.
My adult daughter has a mid Wheel drive Permobil M3. It is a wonderful wheelchair and she does not go anywhere without it. We have a 2020 Dodge Grand Caravan and it has the Bruno curbsider to pick it up and she also has a braun turny seat. She will not take the manual chair at all even when we only go out for drives however I see her point. She loves that wheelchair. She may drive very slowly but she feels totally secure and independent with it. That wheelchair also goes up that I can look at her at face level. Thanks for the info. It is great for all to see the differences.
That's awesome! I'm glad to hear that:) it's always nice to hear good feedback/ experiences from a full-time user :)
Y'all are hilarious. I felt like I was watching the CRT version of Fargo.
all good information though eh .
I just got the Q700M power chair last year. On June 28th. It looks exactly like the one in the video. Except the frame color is red. I have the tilt-feature on it too.
I had the QM-710 power chair from 2016-2022. It got retired as my backup power chair. It sits out in my garage now.
I own a power FWD, a power MWD and a manual RWD.. I'll tell you right now.. go MWD.. all the way. RWD maneuverability sucks indoors. FWD has more maneuverability than RWD but it sucks out and about because the front anti-tippers are so low to the ground sometimes it's impossible just crossing the street if the sidewalk angle is a bit too steep or going through a door with a high threshold you can get stuck.. MWD is the best because the front casters allow you to go over thing or even clear a bit of snow before your drive wheels so you are less likely to get stuck and you can also maneuver on the spot, like turning around in the bathroom.
Thanks for the comment Jason! You made very good points! It's great to hear some feedback from someone with experience :)
I prefer the mid wheel drive also and oddly enough, I just got one of the chairs that you featured in this video the Q 700 M from sunrise and quickie I got mine with tilt and recline, and I am having nothing but great luck with it so far
I wouldn’t have anything but the F3 OR F5 Permobil Permobil for life.
Most power wheelchair manufacturers offer FREE IN HOME Test Drives. Your own living arrangement, lifestyle, and physical condition are different from almost anyone else. If you truly enjoy and know what's waiting outdoors for you, particularly, pray for healing. Forty-three years of quadriplegia, and now age sixty-eight, I can STILL make a Permobil F5 (fwd) power wheelchair work out in our apartment. I love the outdoors but have no 'off-road' expectations from my choice, just the best ride and dependability available. This will be my third fwd pwc out of the thirteen wheelchairs that have been retired with the exception of my 2014 fwd Permobil sitting in our 2nd bedroom. Got deep pockets - buy a used Majic Mobility Extreme 4 all-wheel drive power wheelchair form Marc's Mobility and carry a cell phone. I have no idea why push handles are installed on the backrest of any 300 lbs. complex power wheelchair other than to destroy your surroundings and backrest assembly - the q700m by Quickie has fold-in push handles and stay clear.
i used a Quickie Spider chair before it did not work in a lot of snow
If only they were not expensive I have muscular dystrophy 😢 always in pain never had this comfortable power chair 😢i have that weak uncomfortable one the basic
My first chair was a M3 corpus
I have a FWD hoveround. Also just got a MWD Permobil. Although when you compare the specifications they are very similar I can turn the Hiveround in my small bathroom either the door closed I can not do that with the permibil Also can not pull up close to sink or toilet with MWD. Also, driving the MWD, the front caster wheels make you jiggle all over, while doesn't happen with Hoveround. Do wish hoveround had swing away joystick, and get only power lift, not the other power seat adjustments that the Prrmibil gas.
Thanks for the comments, Mary! Very good points :)
I can’t walk and that’s what I have. They’re the best made the other ones seem to have problems.
I have been using a power wheelchair just about my entire life. I HATE midwheel drive chairs but it seems to be all that is made anymore . Yes, a midwheel drive is capable of tighter turns which is helpful in an apartment. But the second you have to drive over any kind of bump, it creates a see-saw sort of action in which the chair is momentarily balancing on two wheels before violently rocking backwards or forwards. Then the front and rear wheels lift the drive wheels off the ground causing total loss of control. Fine for perfectly flat ground...terrible for real world. Front wheel drive is very wonky...the whole back end of the chair which you cant see swings around like a tail. stick with rear wheel drive unless your apartment is too small to navigate .
And a ride
I appreciate yr models but ...if 1or2 steps to climb from pavilion to gate... how? Don't hv slope...at all n can't break law of govt to add slope...pls advice so I can go out indpntly n enjoy Life on own.... Thankful
Have you considered a portable ramp? Depending on how tall the stairs are, you could purchase a 5 - or 6-foot multifold ramp for situations such as these.
Dote wish to be rude but why dote you ask the people that rely on these powerchairs what works best for them etc
Not rear wheel drive? 🦼
These aren't built for the disabled by the disabled. And so costly that most that need them cant afford them. And good luck getting them repaired.
after a year in one ive come to the very real and sad conclusion that these chairs are built without a doubt to enrich corporations only, made to look and sound fancy and techy in quick glances and on paper so they can get as many out as possible at ridiculous prices like 20. -30 grand when really worth one thousand on their best day, still sold with lead acid batteries most die in a few months cus nobody has 8 hrs a day to charge those heavy relics properly not to mention the two antique batteries weigh 100 pounds. They put the drive wheels in the middle and go apeshit about the advanced turn radius lol duh or make it recline like a lazyboy and put on 10 thousand just for that not even using hydraulics what a croc of crapola these are i mean they serve a purpose but serve is a strong word it would be nice to see a real chair with some real engineering and such be introduced for a real price if u need a example of how worthless they are buy one brand new and try to sell it tommorow upu will drop 25 thousand easy and be lucky to sell it for two seriously
You nailed it. Outside of the seating system, the drive design hasn't changed much in 50 years. What can this industry do in order to acquire these devices for pennies on the dollar? Is it the manufacturer's strangling the providers for the cost of the tech, or vice-versa?