These were 16 inch shingles. Back then we were getting between $75 and $100 per square at the mill. We usually got around 10 sq #1's per MBF (6 Sq #1's / cord) but towards the end it was less due to shorter logs (less taper of logs) and less deducts for defects.
I also worked in a new Shingle Mill where they were teaching new guys to saw. It was known as a shake and finger mill. Because the guys being trained had no idea what was going on. Me I gave the best years of my life to this dead and dying industry. I worked my way up and can do any job in a shingle mill. and that's why i have my digits still. These guys came for a job and they stuck em on a saw, with no xp , thats why so many lost fingers.
You should mention that it is people learning to saw and its the people who saw for years that become complacent that are the ones who lose limbs and fingers. I had a friend who was working hung over step on his board to adjust a block that was too big. he was fighting with it, and then he did the #1 no no he put a arm between the block and saw, and in a freak accident his peddle tripped and drug him in to the saw. he almost died, and lost a arm. He had 30 years xp
still hand spltting shake blocks and finding product in burn pilesleft behind in the woods .. i sit with a froe and mallet and just enjoy it .... its a challenge to get the most you can out of a shake block.
how much can you get for per square for your perfectas??? i see they are 18s ... I do hand splits both tapers and barns and sometimes sell blocks to mills ... ts for the video ... max cutout on a cord?????
@ardvarkkkkk Usually just fingers. I worked there for 20 yrs and still can count to 10 without taking off my shoes! My dad did it for almost 50 years and still has al his fingers.l
I live in the same area. This type of shoddy mill is why shake rats aren't respected at all. Fingers and arms gone all the time. The most dangerous machine there is. A Bolter.
hey ts for the reply ... if i sit all day and hand split i can do between 8 and 10 bundles of No.1 edge grain hand split tapers with a little barn by product ... i sell for $170 a square for my best ...
Decent video. On the deck you should get a hydraulic axe if you have more than 1 shingle machine running so its easier on your body. The log deck guy should make the blocks to the right size so the block piler doesnt have to do it all. Also, your wasting wood by trimming off the outer shell. They just end up to be spalts anyways. To get more out of your wood, get a bandsaw running to saw up the bigger spalts.
Where i work we get $190 a square for #1 grade shingles and have only 1 machine going at the moment as were just getting started. Theres a lot of screwin around at the moment so we aint getting a lot of squares per day. Today we only got 6.25 1's of 5x
why all the waste sawing blocks before the saw? I ask about waste because you should know that, If you have a shitty sawyer on a machine running 36 clips/min and they cut 1 inch splints, then every 10 min he is throwing a bundle(.25sq) down the hole. And why are the packing bins not in front of you?
It cleans up the block. Removing bark and rocks. It's saves the delicate shingle saws. And since he's only triming the sap wood there is less work for the Sawyer as he could read the grain more easily. The same amount is trimmed off with or without a knee bolter
The saw catches your glove and its a finger or a hand off, How ever here in Great Britain the mill would be shut down for unsafe working practices we are more advanced than USA. If we were really struggling we would ask our friends the Germans to invent for uas an automated machine?
These were 16 inch shingles. Back then we were getting between $75 and $100 per square at the mill. We usually got around 10 sq #1's per MBF (6 Sq #1's / cord) but towards the end it was less due to shorter logs (less taper of logs) and less deducts for defects.
I also worked in a new Shingle Mill where they were teaching new guys to saw. It was known as a shake and finger mill. Because the guys being trained had no idea what was going on. Me I gave the best years of my life to this dead and dying industry. I worked my way up and can do any job in a shingle mill. and that's why i have my digits still. These guys came for a job and they stuck em on a saw, with no xp , thats why so many lost fingers.
OSHA would shut that down in a heart beat today
Very interesting video ! They banned knee bolters up here before I ever entered a mill , so it`s nice to see them in action.
You should mention that it is people learning to saw and its the people who saw for years that become complacent that are the ones who lose limbs and fingers. I had a friend who was working hung over step on his board to adjust a block that was too big. he was fighting with it, and then he did the #1 no no he put a arm between the block and saw, and in a freak accident his peddle tripped and drug him in to the saw. he almost died, and lost a arm. He had 30 years xp
still hand spltting shake blocks and finding product in burn pilesleft behind in the woods .. i sit with a froe and mallet and just enjoy it .... its a challenge to get the most you can out of a shake block.
Whoa there Bucko, watch those fingers and hands!
Wow, you guys are amazing. That's a lot of dangerous shit going down all around you at once. Good job!
how much can you get for per square for your perfectas??? i see they are 18s ... I do hand splits both tapers and barns and sometimes sell blocks to mills ... ts for the video ... max cutout on a cord?????
@ardvarkkkkk Usually just fingers. I worked there for 20 yrs and still can count to 10 without taking off my shoes! My dad did it for almost 50 years and still has al his fingers.l
4.5 lb ardvika is the choice of shake blockers and if the round doesnt split 8" fiberglass wedge
Love the pop pop sound of spitting blocks.
I live in the same area. This type of shoddy mill is why shake rats aren't respected at all. Fingers and arms gone all the time. The most dangerous machine there is. A Bolter.
hey ts for the reply ... if i sit all day and hand split i can do between 8 and 10 bundles of No.1 edge grain hand split tapers with a little barn by product ... i sell for $170 a square for my best ...
Decent video. On the deck you should get a hydraulic axe if you have more than 1 shingle machine running so its easier on your body. The log deck guy should make the blocks to the right size so the block piler doesnt have to do it all. Also, your wasting wood by trimming off the outer shell. They just end up to be spalts anyways. To get more out of your wood, get a bandsaw running to saw up the bigger spalts.
Where i work we get $190 a square for #1 grade shingles and have only 1 machine going at the moment as were just getting started. Theres a lot of screwin around at the moment so we aint getting a lot of squares per day. Today we only got 6.25 1's of 5x
I hope you make a go of it. I miss the mill.
perfections are the highest theyve ever been. my boss is getting $268 a square for #1s.
"I need more spinning steel around me when I work ; to keep me alert" - said no-one ever
Why not spring for a splitter axe?
That's some white private there. Glad safety has stepped up since then.
do u still have all fingers
SHEAR Artistry!
why all the waste sawing blocks before the saw? I ask about waste because you should know that, If you have a shitty sawyer on a machine running 36 clips/min and they cut 1 inch splints, then every 10 min he is throwing a bundle(.25sq) down the hole. And why are the packing bins not in front of you?
It cleans up the block. Removing bark and rocks. It's saves the delicate shingle saws. And since he's only triming the sap wood there is less work for the Sawyer as he could read the grain more easily. The same amount is trimmed off with or without a knee bolter
I'm staining shingles right now. Watching how they are made is making me sick.
I just gotta love all the osha approved safety guards!
The guards were in accordance with OSHA.
Chuck Curnutt
As dangerous as this mill is still not as dangerous as putting those hinges on your roof. Instant fire
Inexperienced sawyer....
The saw catches your glove and its a finger or a hand off, How ever here in Great Britain the mill would be shut down for unsafe working practices we are more advanced than USA. If we were really struggling we would ask our friends the Germans to invent for uas an automated machine?
Anyway the wind blows the roofs of your buildings every year? Money spinner but you moan about it!