I respect Chris as a movie critic so much because he can actually appreciate all the small details and elements of movies that modern day critics tend to overlook or disparage. I honestly don't even care for RT anymore when Chris gives way better insight into films.
LovePatchSour For as long as art criticism has existed there’s been a divide between what is considered “good” and what audiences enjoy. The two can meet happily, but what satisfies the masses often does so at the cost of originality, depth, and genuine quality. Critics are often called out for being out of touch with the general public by trashing popular films and praising independent features with a smaller audience. Every reviewer has their personal creed about how they rate a film and what their recommendations are based on, but as I see it they fall into some pretty common guidelines. Did I enjoy this film? Would someone else of a different age enjoy this film? Does this film have anything to offer beyond simple enjoyment? And does this film accomplish what it set out to? Audience members however have a very different method of assessing the film and it is far less standardized. I know an unfortunate number of viewers who partially evaluate a film on its trailer, which the filmmakers have absolutely nothing to do with. Many of them assess a film based on their expectations and how well the film meets them, instead of how well the filmmakers meet their own goals. Typically a moviegoer will also incorrectly relate a film to the previous films of a star as though they had an influence on the storytelling beyond their own performance. But outside all of this there’s a large issue when it comes to general public evaluation of art: they are less intelligent and less educated than reviewers. There are some key differences between Cinemascore, which appears to be growing in popularity in the last year, and imdb (or other online user sourced) ratings. Let’s pick something where we can drop a very wide net. Iron Man 3 is far and away the top grossing film of this year and it scored a certified fresh rating of 78% from Rotten Tomatoes from 271 reviews. When you look at who they classify as top critics that score drops to the barely positive 65% from 46 reviews. Cinemascore typically asks 400-500 theatre patrons to review a film and Iron Man 3 scored an A (A+ is the highest possible). From a much larger pool of 216,268 votes on imdb Iron Man 3 scored a 7.6/10, which is pretty close to its RT rating. Now, not only does imdb draw from a larger pool but it is not targeted at demographics. Cinemascore goes to about 15 locations for each film and targets audience members of broad ethnic groups, genders, and ages to guess which groups this movie hits and misses with. One of the biggest problems with both of these viewer rating formats however is that all of these people chose to see this film. Something about it appealed to them to the point that they decided to see it which inevitably raises the chances that they will enjoy it more than a reviewer who watches every major release. When looking at The Smurfs 2 the 13% RT score appears to vastly clash with the A- Cinemascore, however in truth since the first film was rated about the same from critics and it should be no surprise that the viewers who enjoyed the first film (the only reason one would see this one) would enjoy the sequel. Planes was a direct to DVD film that gained enough traction that Disney decided to release it in theatres, earning 23% on RT and an A- CS. These families knew what they were buying. Their children were entertained for 90 minutes and walked away smiling, and that’s not what reviewers are paid to evaluate. Their job is to tell the adults with children, or adults who have no children, or teenagers who still enjoy animated films, or even the cinematically savvy pre-teen whether or not this film will be worth their time and money (not if it makes a good babysitter). Cinemascore is a marketing tool, and in my opinion a terribly flawed one, used to determine how word of mouth will spread about a film and how audiences of broad backgrounds are reacting to it on opening weekend. Now on to Rotten Tomatoes, a useful and reprehensible tool in determining what films to see. It’s pretty easy to watch as the first few reviews roll in for a film to see critics sway in one direction or another. If you’re not a top critic you are risking your job by going against the grain on a film, and if you are a top critic you put your credibility on the line (as Roger Ebert often did) by praising something most hate. A bandwagon or groupthink mentality quickly forms particularly when turning on a film. Also there’s a good deal of resentment in the media toward big budget studio releases. When reading the reviews for some of the summer films this year (particularly The Lone Ranger) it seems critics revel in the failure of the filmmakers and the studio. Some even use obvious biblical allegory. And understandably it’s difficult to remain impartial when you see great films sidelined for mediocre ones year after year. But reviewers often fall prey to some similar issues as the common viewer. Far too many reviews for Elysium commented on how it fell short of expectations following District 9. Elysium is its own film and had it come before District 9 would it be a better film? Were they to expect nothing from this director or this film how many more positive reviews would it have? Rise of the Planet of the Apes had a kind of surprise you with a new unknown director effect that will undoubtedly lead to both Rupert Wyatt’s subsequent films and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes to fail to live up to that surprise impact. It doesn’t mean they are less good, it just means they need to be viewed with an open mind. So, I’d recommend looking beyond the star rating, percent, grade, or what have you to actually read a review and judge for yourself what aspects of the film you are looking for and what is there. Attempt to walk into a film with an open mind and leave your expectations behind you. Cinemascores rarely generate an F, which tells you right there that the general public is afraid to score a film too low. On imdb the scores are anonymous, impersonal, and takes one click to vote, and thus allows for the real hatred of a film to be let loose. Only eight films have earned an F, half of which were positive on RT. Many of these low ratings I blame on trailers misleading audiences. Solaris (2002) and Killing Them Softly were both liked by critics but hated by the 400-500 viewers in the midwest. Personally I enjoyed both of these films but feel the trailers show a completely different, action infused, high tension thriller that does not reflect the real film. Similarly Bug scored an F in spite of its “fresh” RT score, as viewers were led to believe this simple story based on a play was about killer microscopic genetically engineered parasitic insects when it was in truth about people suffering from schizophrenia. I believe had this film been given its proper audience instead of an advertising trick to get a strong opening weekend crowd it would have done better. As I’ve said before, do your research and don’t trust trailers.
Another problem with Cinemscore is they only surveyed the very first few bath of cinemagoers that went to see the movies and don't re-update their rating for subsequent watch (which is the majority of cinemagoers).It is to be expected that those that are most excited about the movie would be the one that rushed to see it in theatres and more likely to gave it more favourable scores. The problem with IMDB rating on the other hand is it is rather useless when it comes to new releases ( especially high profile ones).Any "Fanboi "or "Hater" can easily set up multiple accounts and spam absurd ratings, even before the movie is released . As for RT, I find most people don't even understand how its rating system worked.
I still can't figure out where all the negative reviews for this came from. I was fascinated by it. It was creepy, it was intriguing, and it had beautiful visuals.
Honestly, and this is gonna sound pretentious... It's too creative. People have gotten way too used to everything in hollywood being done a certain way and as soon as someone tries to step outside of that Avengers/Paranormal Activity zone they get bashed for it. I've just been noticing this concerning trend lately that people no longer appreciate original content. They only want the next sequel or reboot or remake. That's what makes money.
Kristen Gausselin try looking up Bioshock infinite explained, it isn't a movie but the whole story is mind blowing, it's worth the watch, but if you want the full effect play the game.
Even if a movie is predictable, it can still be good. The other qualities, such as editing and pacing, seem more relevant in determining if a movie is "bad".
It's funny that the movie has a Shutter Island vibe because DeHaan has a young Dicaprio vibe. That scene of his face when he strikes the lighter looks exactly like Dicaprio out of Shutter Island
I really hope people support this film. This is the closest I've seen to a foreign horror film come out of the American film industry and it was great. We need to support these unique films so we can get more of them. I'm tired of popcorn, generic american flicks. I'm ready for these kind of films. This and Nocturnal animals are two great films that should be supported right now.
Jordan Hulett I agree I really love original films and new concepts I'm just waiting for this movie to have an HD online cause this movie is not in my local cinema
This movie was godawful. And I don't mean "It was too weird for me" or "I didn't get it and it went over my head". I mean it tried a lot of things and it failed in a lot of them, objectively. Spoilers, obviously. I think a really great example of what's wrong with this film is encapsulated in the ending. Specifically, where Lockhart runs (literally) into the car full of executives as he's escaping with Hannah. One of the first things they say to him, looking up at the fire, is "What have you done?" - what? What the fuck. That's not at all what someone would say in this situation. Not only would they not assume the fire up there was his fault - because there's absolutely no reason for them to believe that - they would have more pertinent questions, like "Are you okay? We just hit you with a car and you're bleeding and fleeing from a flaming castle." And then they ask about Pembroke, presumably because they assume he was staying in the castle that is now clearly burning down. Lockhart tells them "He's gone". No more explanation than that, which is stupid, there's a million things to explain, but whatever. They more or less accept this stupid response, and their response to this is to command him to get in the car. As though he would have any reason to *not* get in the fucking car. As though if they weren't just like "You're clearly injured, get in the car and we'll take you to a doctor, then we'll worry about sorting everything out" he would have any reason at all to refuse this completely rational suggestion. But he does refuse it, because now the executive is a badly written cartoon, and he demands that he get in the car, reminding him that he was sent here to perform a task, as though that has ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH HIM GETTING IN THE FUCKING CAR. But he's suddenly a shitty cartoon because now Lockhart can refuse him in what might be the most hamhandedly out of place instance of someone thinking "If he does this then it could seem meaningful, even if none of it makes sense" that I've ever seen in a movie. They filmmakers wanted him to have a chance to reject his corporate life, to have absolution, which the movie also hamhandedly shoved down the throats of the audience earlier. So they have to make his bosses - all of them, all at once - show up coincidentally as he's leaving so he could have this moment at the end of the movie. And the movie is full of shit like this. Like the filmmakers had scraps of ideas of what could make a good movie, and they just crammed the story into these set pieces to express those ideas, even if they made no sense in regard to each other or even within the context of themselves. I really hope people don't support this film. I have no idea what happened, here. Something, somewhere down the line went terribly, terribly wrong. I don't know if it's a case of one person going unchecked and running wild a la George Lucas or if it's more like there were too many cooks and too many ingredients all trying different stuff that the studio couldn't handle a la Suicide Squad. Either way, this was bullshit. This was a two and a half hour waste of time. Absolutely nothing of substance was said nor expressed. Nothing cohesive or consistent made it to the final product of this film. And it's a goddamned shame, because Dane DeHaan is better than this. He deserves better than this.
I love this movie too. Dane Dehaan was a great lead the cinematography was great along with the color pallet (loved all the greens). I've seen it a few times now and still really enjoy it. Criminally underrated with a really fucked up ending I must say.
PalmDesertRock he's mainly talking about the average movie goer and how they might not like this movie, and how movie critics should've given it better ratings because they aren't your average movie goers
This is the only movie that I've ever seen that legitimately terrified me, and most scary movies (even the ones I actually enjoy) don't get one scare out of me, but this film was seriously insane!
ETgohome13 same with me. This was "get inside your head" horror, not conventional blood and guts, ghost, serial killer or monster horror movies. The scariest movies are the ones that get scarier after you've had time to think about what it meant and the implications of said movie
My AV teacher used to call that "electric"... As in , Stuckmann... Your shirt is Electric! Change that shit immediately! It wasn't for many years that I finally learned Moiré Effect, from my film student roommate. Thanks Rob!
I feel like this movie will become one of those weird cult classics. I saw it in theaters a few years back. Was recently talking to some fraternity brothers and they all said it was trash. I remembered liking it so I rewatched it and liked it more then I initially had before. In a lot of ways this movie reminds me of Crimson Peak. Both were critically panned and perceived as failures, but have a following of fans.
Agreed. Did very bad in the box office. Many didn't see it cause of critics and I believe bad advertising. I liked that I didn't know much about the film from the trailer I've seen and was able to actually watch the film.
Bullshit, lol. Defense of idiots. There IS such thing as trash taste, and that's when majority of sane people agree upon a piece of shit being a piece of shit, while one genius tries to find beauty in it.
"give us original films" I think its implied in the statement that the original films should also be good films. the two aren't exclusive. original films can be bad. chris seems to go out of his way to praise "original" films rather they're good or bad.
Packer Backer This film packed more of a punch than most films I've seen in quite a while. And I've been to the cinema like 8 times in 2017 alone. Though Split gave me a similar feeling as well.
Jordy What? Considering the fact that I had no idea I would watch a grown man finger an almost little girl and smell that shit like his favorite candle, how is it supposed to effect me? Just because you get a reaction out of someone doesn't mean you're doing a good job. Quite often it means the opposite
Maximum Effort All it means is that the movie isn't another safe predictable Hollywood movie. What happens in the movie is fucked up, yes. And it is supposed to be.
@@hulkfan97 it's not only switzerland though. There are also locations filmed in Germany. The castle, for example, is located in germany. The nature shots do look very swiss to me though and as a swiss I should know
The majority of film critics are just terrible anymore. Stuckmann is an exception, I don't always agree with him, but many of the critics' reviews just don't make sense, they want something different, then they bash it. I'm looking forward to seeing this as I love weird, different films.
To be fair, just being original is no defense against things like "the movie has no plot" etc. Honestly, i don't get either side of the arguement. Why do you want something that hasn't been done before ? Do you innovate every day ? Does that make what you do less viable and important ? I want to be entertained, i want to be soaked into the world that is being depicted and i don't want to be taken out of the immersion every few minutes, if a movie can manage that, it's already above average for me. "But it was the first movie filmed entirely by a chimpanzee, they truly did something new there"; "Yeah ? Did that help the movie in any way ? No ? Then it probably was a dumb idea and i don't care, thank you !"
its the same with video games. critics criticize new or smaller video game launches for not being unique or original, then openly give Call of duty, Battlefront etc 8 or 10 out of 10 annually and call it "the new evolution of gaming"
SpaceMonkeyEntertainment True. You know what recent film had an original plot? Monster Trucks. Originality doesn't always work. Not saying it's a bad thing, but when we try to shove this down Hollywood's throat they go and push out shitty films like that.
Brick ByBrick I'm sure Chris Stuckmann remembers it too, so not sad at all. I actually enjoyed that film. Must be sad living in a world where not everybody shares the same opinion as you.
I saw this movie ONCE three years ago and it still haunts me. It was just so different, ive never seen anything like it before. It fascinates me yet terrifies me up at the same time. It’s hard to forget a movie like this
I haven't seen a cure for wellness, so I can't comment on that but I feel like Chris has this problem of saying "Oh, this movie is original and different so you have to go see it and I know a lot of people will hate it but I'm going to give it a high grade because it's original." He's done this with a couple movies and every time I've walked away hating the movie. Just because something is different and original doesn't take away from whatever flaws it may have. Being an original concept doesn't give a film permission to just to off the rails, or be slow burning to the point of boredom, or be so trippy half the audience can't figure out what's going on without a two hour companion piece. Yes, I want original films, but I also want them to be good, not just different.
Bobby Ellis Ik what you mean because his reviews had done that for me. But this movie is different and very enjoyable. Guarantee you won't see a movie like this nowadays
If I had to guess, it's because he reviews films, and lots of them, which leads to him being overly familiar or bored with common tropes and ideas. I'm not sure how many movies you watch on a daily or weekly basis, so maybe I'm talking out my ass, either way it's just a thought.
I understand what you mean. I hope he genuinely liked the movie and is not affected by it being an "original" concept even though as a movie it might be complete shit. Then again, I think it's very good to reward people who are trying to make original films even though they might not be that great. If people don't give original films a chance the big studios will keep on pumping out Marvel films.
So lovecraftian. Old castle, fainting protagonist, cursed family, fish horror, cults, crazy experiments, old medical setting. I hope they make more movies in this atmosphere.
I was trying to figure that out too but I think it's just the way the actor smiles and wasn't meant to convey any more than he got out with his sanity very much altered
to me this immediately felt like Dracula or Frankenstein. I mean that in the best possible sense. Classic horror. I wasnt surprised by the burned monster finale at all. I saw the bandaged faced baron in the photo... saw the false faces in the dishes. I saw it coming, but it was on point. Well done horror cinema worship.
Thurgor Supreme just saw it today. In my opinion, I really liked it. I actually went to go see it because the reviews were that negative and I didn't have any regrets.
Yes, especially the scene in the beginning when he wanders into the thick fog of the spaw room. The walls change around him as he becomes trapped in an impossible labyrinth giving you the magical intrigue feeling to see what’s around the corner even though you feel like the protagonist is walking into danger. Those vibes that make me love Harry Potter.
I didn't see a problem with it besides that it was maybe 20 minutes too long but every scene had a purpose so it would've been a bit difficult if they made it shorter but could've been doable.
I'll admit I liked the movie, I didn't love it, but I liked it for what it was and respected it's originality as you did. I won't give any spoilers but I liked how it tried to veer off the road from a psychological thriller to what almost reminded me of an insane gothic romance kind of plot.. I won't get into that, you'll just have to watch the movie. The execution just didn't sit well with me and almost reminded me of a sort of B rated "thrown in" ending. That's what it reminded me of but the execution even though it missed the mark a little, didn't miss it by much I thought; I still felt like "well wow" after the movie was over. I won't give it as much credit as you but I do think this film deserved at least a little higher of a score from critics. I feel if they shaved off the time to two hours, took out a few unnecessary scenes and focused on the ones they had and made them just as impactful or more, and polished up the ending a little more, it could have been significantly fresh with its originality. You're score is perfectly fair in my opinion as well
It was a little more than luke warm. It's an interesting story and gives us beautiful cinematography, but it's wonky in places. It relies too heavily on exposition. What bothered me most was the psychology that moves the narrative is completely abandoned by the climax. The movie just gives up on itself. I was fully invested in the first hour or so, but things just start to unravel. It was a fine movie, far from excellent.
Kinda have to agree. The ending's fire parallels to the burning of the sister was very heavy-handed, and missed the inferences that played so well in the beginning. There also could have been contrasts with the doctor's quest vs. the patient's delusions (in a sense both are going for a type of immortality), that instead are kept mostly as a plot devices. And worst of all there was only one really compelling scene in the movie (the bar), where you get a sense of how out of place Hannah is and how dire the circumstances are. I think most people are so hard on this movie is that it had the potential to be truly great, but just sort of collapsed in on itself.
Cap'n Mo SPOILERS! Ye was really interested at the start but it went on too long and by the time the final fight scene is happening in a chamber from Phantom of the Opera it had turned into complete shlock..
I agree that critics hate original films, I honestly believe birdemic shock and terror is a masterpiece, yea its low budget but everything else is flawless. I really hope people start praising it for how ambitious and original it is. it says important things about humanity, the environment, religion and relationships, I think its a great film. I hate when people trash it.
TMR MOVIES The special effects, even for low budget, are awful and so is the acting. It might be original and have a good message but it isn't a good movie in the slightest.
Wait... critics hate original films now?! Like... The Lobster? Swiss Army Man? Zootopia? The Nice Guys? La La land? Arrival? The Witch? Wes Anderson movies? I thought critics usually like original films...
Dawson Brannan yea but birdemic is atleast a million times more Original and plus it has a groundbreaking message. Those other movies you mentioned are just pretentious and they probably pay off critics like marvel
Okay... I respect your opinion and all, but is there any further proof that Marvel was paying critics? Or do you just not like Marvel films? I don't wanna sound rude. I'm just asking.
He is not wrong. I loved this movie and so did all the people I was with. It was quite special. Still can't really get this movie out of my mind after seeing it yesterday.
i think the biggest turning point for this movie is the twist, is something you either love or hate. And I personally loved it, when the movie turned from psichological horror thriller to full on gothic horror. It was amazing it was like watching a modern take on a classical hammer film. I love this film so much.
Blobber90 Blobb Chris is a pretty good critic but not the best because in a couple of his videos hype and nostalgia overwhelmed him. I can give Jeremy Jahns a pass because he doesn't claim to be a critic but just a fan of movies.
I hate my life. out of all other critics i have found that Jeremy is usually the most accurate and doesn't let nostalgia effect his reviews and doesn't give a movie a pass even if it's a classic.
I wouldn't give Jeremy a pass, if u have a million subs and review movies it should be more then just surface level stuff and if someone is a "fan of movies" should't they try to reach out and see other movies that don't have a 10 million marketing budget.
Great film if you cut out the trash ending. The tonal shift at the end is so out of nowhere and mashed into it. It was SO good until the end. It dumbed down so much. Felt lazy after such masterful build up.
@@phoenix0547 After they captured the dude and put him in a tank the rest of the movie is his euphoric hallucinations as the worms drain him. You can tell because he's been losing teeth as the movie progresses and in the last act all his teeth are back.
carny15 well, not really. You only have a limited time and budget to watch movies, so you're gonna make use of sites like that to help you select, especially if you don't know a lot about movies currently in cinema.
TMD...I used to check RT's ratings for films from 1930s - 1990s, so that I won't waste my time watching shitty films.. but now I just check out Letterboxd ratings..
I dont know how any critic gave this movie poor reviews it was a master piece... they really don't drop many movies this beautiful and meticulous nowadays
Chris, just because something is original and "not like anything else" than doesn't automatically mean it's good. If critics automatically gave good reviews to completely original films for being just that, it would be dishonest and it would be unfair criticism. Imagine if you gave something like Nine Lives or Norm of The North a pass just because they aren't based on something that already exists. That's a silly concept.
I liked this movie up until the ending when all this culminated to a fist fight with this epic blockbuster-y score. The reveal of what all this was about, the reason for the entire place was so absurd and ridiculous. It almost undid all the greatness that had come out of the first two hours. Also, what does it take for Lockhart to leave this place? Normal people would've been gone very early, but instead of getting the hell out of there he's exploring and researching this place and screaming, "where's Penbrook?!" the entire time. He (spoilers) literally got out at one point, and was free in the town, yet he gets back in the car and goes back because he is just idiotic. I still however really liked this movie for those first two hours, and think is worth checking out. Not because it's an original movie (original movies come out every single weekend, there's been like 30 already this year) but because it's one of the most well done mystery films I've seen in years. Even if the answer to the mystery isn't all that great.
Brandon Torres I don't think Lockhart is a normal person though. There were quite a few small hints throughout the movie that should make you question who was actually the insane one. Also a lot of small inconsistent details that seemed deliberate like him getting his teeth back for example. The sickness might have been man-made, but that doesn't mean he wasn't sick.
Brandon Torres he couldn't leave because if he came back empty handed he would go to jail for cooking the books and he got back in the car because of the implied threat of the gangsters.
This movie also reminded me of crimson peak. Spoiler Alert for anyone who hasnt seen both Both have the main characters being poisoned through a liquid,messed up family stuff , are beatufully taken and take place in a remote place. And I have to say, I liked both and find those similarities pretty cool.
Yey, Symbolism in cannibalism. The true masterpiece of modern cinema. Not. Although I woudn't mind seeing that one analysed by Chris, I still truly hated the movie.
It's not about the shirt itself. It's the freaky wavey motions its pattern or material creates throughout the whole review. Just watch it for a while and you'll see it.
Love how you described this film, I absolutely loved it!! How you have an unbiased opinion I respect very much. It was undeniably overwhelming and the amount of care they put into the editing and the sound touches and just very small details you don't get a lot and was astounding to me, I loved how strange and almost unworldly it was and exactly how you said "what's going on with my life" the more and more I think about that movie the more I love it, simply because it is very different and it gives you almost a sense of a reality touch, and kind of hits close to home when it comes to how realistic the scenario they started the movie out with is. Over all in a nut shell was an awesome experience and I loved the fact that dragged it out so long because it allows them to put in that much more of a good finished product. B+ I think it deserves an A just because of how well thought out this really was!!
I felt the same, when I saw the movie I was blown away at how creepy and weird and disturbing the movie got at times, I absolutely loved it! I was surprised to see how low the Rotten Tomatoes score for this film was.... It's honestly not a film for everyone, but it's a movie you should definitely go see. It's so different than every other movie we see out there. It stands alone as it's own original film with a blend of a couple different genres. I loved it 👍🏻
I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! Chris is correct, every shot and sound is so lush with information and it was hard to keep up. however, the directing is so good that you are sure the answers were placed somewhere in the movie. I personally want to watch it again to see if it can fill in the gaps. It is too finely crafted; the filmmaking should not be underestimated.
Maximum Effort You are saying that as if this movie goes out of its way to promote incest or pedophilia. If that is the message you got from this then you must have been sleeping throughout most of it.
Maximum Effort No that wasn't the main point. That was a plot point in the story. There is a difference. It obviously made you uncomfortable, as it did me, and everybody else who watched it probably. But that doesn't mean that this is suddenly all the movie is about, because it isn't.
Ok, you're being condescending, Chris. You're more than welcome to love the movie and you did convince me to see it, but the whole "critics don't get it 'coz it's weird and new" makes you sound like a snotty, know-it-all. Aren't you the guy who wanted Vader, Vader and moar Vader from Rogue One? A little hypocritical of me since I'm critiquing a critic critiquing other critics for critiquing the film (#crititiqueception), but I had to point that out.
Snowfall Slasher I agree, Chris doesn't actually know why these critics are rating the film low he's just assuming they don't appreciate or understand it, which is really pretentious. This film still looks really interesting and I love movies that mess with your head so I'll have to make my own opinion when I watch it myself and see if these critics are right, the imdb ratings usually seem fairly accurate to what I would rate most movies though so I'm not expecting anything great.
@dancecrew1996 Or, you know, the story, the writing, the pacing and a number of other things. As someone who seen the film, those were definitely the weak areas for this film.
Chris, with this movie's mindset, you should see Upstream Color (2013) from director Shane Carruth (from Primer). Underrated, strange, complicated, but I loved it.
Actually as I've read through most of the critic's reviews, no one has disliked it for being original. In fact almost every critic has said they would've liked it a whole lot more...except it's waaaaaay too long. I'll admit midnight last night I had a shot at seeing this or The Great Wall and chose Great Wall just because this is almost as long as a Lord of the Rings movie. And really if you're going to be that long I do feel then that you had better be blowing us away otherwise it's just dragging it out for pretentiousness' sake.
Arc13 The thing that bothers me is that these are the same critics who say that 2001 or the godfather are some of the best films ever made. I mean a cure for wellness is pretty fast paste compared to these two movies.
Visually, The Cure for Wellness is probably one of the best films I have ever seen. Like you said, every single shot is impeccable and the colour scheme is beyond perfect. I thought Mia Goth and Dane DeHaan was perfect casting and both did a really good job. In terms of the story line, it started off well, but then started to annoy me a bit. I'm still not 100% sure I know exactly what the ending meant. Even so, an incredible and underrated film.
I decided not to watch this movie after seeing 38% on RT but after hearing Chris's opinion I am more interested in this. Thanks dude your reviews are amazing
I just saw this today and I was absolutely blown away. I never once felt bored watching this because it was paced in such a way that allowed to me to think about what was happening, but just as I'd think I'd come to a conclusion it would throw something else into the mix. In terms of atmosphere I thought this film was perfect. As the film went on I felt as if I were falling more and more into a dream, which I feel was intended given by a similar thing happening to the protagonist. I feel like the symbolic imagery is almost on par with films like American Beauty and not to mention the important social commentary this film provides. I understand that a lot of people aren't as open minded as I am, so I feel like a lot of these deeper messages will be looked over because of the overall strangeness and sickeningly disturbing imagery present in the film. There is one moment where a character is revealed and cgi is used that took me out of the movie a little bit, but apart from that I was entranced from the first shot to the last.
Seems like a lot of the complaints are that it isn't very original either. "Derivative and predictable story... frights have all been more effectively dealt before."
Antoine Pel. They can be, but in this movie I think it worked very well. Watched it last night and thought it was really something special. Everybody really left the movie feeling mindfucked.
Hi Chris ! I'm from France, I'm 42 and love your insight on movies. I just saw "A cure for Wellness" on bluray and agree with every word you said. This film is brillant, original, beautifully shot and I think it's sad most people can't appreciate its qualities. I can clearly feel an influence from old school Universal films towards the end (Dracula, Frankenstein , Phantom of the Opera) a bit of Kubrick and also Dario Argento (the moutain setting reminds me of the beginning of Phenomena). Keep up the good work !
I saw the movie as well, and as well I was puzzled and did not know whether to like it or not. BUT: To me this movie had outstanding visuals, soundscapes and many more awesome stylistic devices, but the story? The plot was paperthin and see-through, I knew what was going on after 30 Minutes and the movie kept going for 2 and a half hours of trying to confuse me about what is going on here... when in the end it was kinda exactly what I thought, because it is a thing that many many storys told before. Still: Very watchable movie!
Speaking of critically underappreciated cult classic art films: with the Twin Peaks revival coming out soon, would you consider analyzing some David Lynch films?
Derek Connors, Hi Dude! Excellent Idea!! Really!!! I will never forget when I saw "Blue Velvet" for the first time. Rewatched it one or two years ago. Of course it hadn`t the same effect on me. I`m not the same person anymore but it caused some flashback to the time when directors like David Lynch and David Cronenberg transformed me into a "fanatic" movie enthusiast. (Similar like M. Night S. did for Chris.) And for me "Twin Peaks" was forshadowing the "Golden Age of TV".
Really interested in seeing more Dehaan so I'll probably head the recommendation. I do have a bit of a problem with your point about critics being hypocritical about wanting more original films. If I'm tired of having hotdogs and hamburgers all the time and want something new and original, throwing chopped squid on my plate doesn't entirely solve my issue. There are a whole host of others factors that go into what someone wants out of something new or original. Just throwing something new at someone because that was the only preference they made known regardless of quality, comprehensiveness, pacing, ect. doesn't mean critics are necessarily being unreasonable or hypocritical if they take issue with the movie. I think it should also be noted that original films like Enemy, The Tree of Life, or anything from Shane Carruth's have pretty high critical scores on rotten tomatoes. I see it as more of a case by case sort of thing rather than critics universally not appropriating more adventures endeavors.
You should do a video on Jim Henson's The Dark Crystal! I don't know if it would be a Hilariocity or maybe just a regular review, but i have fond memories of that movie from my childhood and would love to see your take on it.
After finding this movie on Netflix, Yeah, I agree 🙂 It's different, creepy, expertly shot and produced, feels very lovecraftian, etc. It's definitely not a film for everyone, but then again, what is? :)
I saw the trailer for this movie & immediately knew I'd at least appreciate Dane's performance & the aesthetics - Im a sucker for a movie you can sink into! Unlike some people when it got to the third act - I fell in love. You're completely right that it's not perfect but something about this film & the way it pulls you in *chefs kiss*
I feel a cult classic coming! This is such a good movie. It would of been better if it was boiled down to about 1 hr and 40 minutes. Still can't hold back the good, and bad (You'll know why when you see the movie. It still haunts me.) of this film.
SPOILERS I really don't like when movies or shows have a character hallucinating without an explanation, especially without elements of the supernatural, like why did Lockhart thought the sauna had no doors? Why did Hannah appeared to teleport when she was first shown? Why did Lockhart saw eels while in the tank? I get that it gives a "creepy vibe' to the movie or whatever but it just took me out of the movie. (I know the doctor "explained" the illusions saying its just the toxins leaving the body but isn't that just pseudo science? How did the Lockhart and Pembrocke survived being in water without breathing ? So many unanswered questions and a twist that was predictable since the start, really didn't enjoy this movie. Also, Lockhart goes from being brainwashed to normal to brainswashed and back to normal again wtf?
The water was contaminated by eels, so he was drinking little doses of poison everyday. This is why he was having hallucinations & his body was growing weaker, then he didn't want to leave after a while.
... the outter edges of your shirt-pockets mesmerize me everytime you move. I don't know if it's because my screen-resolution is so small, but... daaaamn... so trippy!
Steve Buscemi Donnie darko made money and was rated extremely well when it came out. Definitely deserved it too. ever since that movie I've kept an eye on Jake gyllenhall
Nick Is Dank Get Out was great, it's surreal and not focused on the jump scares but more of getting under your skin. Literally left the screening an hour ago and was impressed.
The cinematography and art direction of this movie are gorgeous. It's worth seeing for that alone. I first sensed that many of the shots felt like Kubrick homages, and then I could clearly see the influence of the Shining, but after awhile I noticed more subtle Kubrick references or easter eggs, that could easily go unnoticed. There was almost a word for word Dr. Strangelove homage, when one of the characters started talking about "the Purity of our precious bodily fluids", mimicking the line Ripper gives to Mandrake, in DrStrangelove. Like Chris, I also got a strong Shutter Island vibe from this film. Both the general premise and the beautiful set design, with it's period set architecture, and clinical sterile feel. You'd think these comparisons would be a negative, but somehow the movie still feels unique and original too.
I really liked it tbh, and it didn’t come all that unexpected with the whole backstory of the place being the first thing we learn about it. The whole movie you get these shutter island/shining Post-horror psychological thriller vibes, and then at the end it unmasks itself (see what I did there?) and shows that at its core it’s really a retelling or an homage to the classic monster stories, Dracula, Frankenstein, even some lovecraft-vibes... and since I like both, it was just the perfect whole package for me.
This movie creeped back into my mind. I'm looking for another movie like this besides shutter island. Having a bit of difficulty. Loved A Cure for Wellness.
I respect Chris as a movie critic so much because he can actually appreciate all the small details and elements of movies that modern day critics tend to overlook or disparage.
I honestly don't even care for RT anymore when Chris gives way better insight into films.
You do realise that Chris Stuckmann is a certified Rotten Tomatoes critic, right?
remliqa In that case, let me rephrase: I honestly don't even care for RT anymore when I prefer the insight Chris gives into films on TH-cam.
LovePatchSour legit i do the same thing.
LovePatchSour
For as long as art criticism has existed there’s been a divide between what is considered “good” and what audiences enjoy. The two can meet happily, but what satisfies the masses often does so at the cost of originality, depth, and genuine quality. Critics are often called out for being out of touch with the general public by trashing popular films and praising independent features with a smaller audience. Every reviewer has their personal creed about how they rate a film and what their recommendations are based on, but as I see it they fall into some pretty common guidelines. Did I enjoy this film? Would someone else of a different age enjoy this film? Does this film have anything to offer beyond simple enjoyment? And does this film accomplish what it set out to?
Audience members however have a very different method of assessing the film and it is far less standardized. I know an unfortunate number of viewers who partially evaluate a film on its trailer, which the filmmakers have absolutely nothing to do with. Many of them assess a film based on their expectations and how well the film meets them, instead of how well the filmmakers meet their own goals. Typically a moviegoer will also incorrectly relate a film to the previous films of a star as though they had an influence on the storytelling beyond their own performance. But outside all of this there’s a large issue when it comes to general public evaluation of art: they are less intelligent and less educated than reviewers.
There are some key differences between Cinemascore, which appears to be growing in popularity in the last year, and imdb (or other online user sourced) ratings. Let’s pick something where we can drop a very wide net. Iron Man 3 is far and away the top grossing film of this year and it scored a certified fresh rating of 78% from Rotten Tomatoes from 271 reviews. When you look at who they classify as top critics that score drops to the barely positive 65% from 46 reviews. Cinemascore typically asks 400-500 theatre patrons to review a film and Iron Man 3 scored an A (A+ is the highest possible). From a much larger pool of 216,268 votes on imdb Iron Man 3 scored a 7.6/10, which is pretty close to its RT rating. Now, not only does imdb draw from a larger pool but it is not targeted at demographics. Cinemascore goes to about 15 locations for each film and targets audience members of broad ethnic groups, genders, and ages to guess which groups this movie hits and misses with. One of the biggest problems with both of these viewer rating formats however is that all of these people chose to see this film. Something about it appealed to them to the point that they decided to see it which inevitably raises the chances that they will enjoy it more than a reviewer who watches every major release.
When looking at The Smurfs 2 the 13% RT score appears to vastly clash with the A- Cinemascore, however in truth since the first film was rated about the same from critics and it should be no surprise that the viewers who enjoyed the first film (the only reason one would see this one) would enjoy the sequel. Planes was a direct to DVD film that gained enough traction that Disney decided to release it in theatres, earning 23% on RT and an A- CS. These families knew what they were buying. Their children were entertained for 90 minutes and walked away smiling, and that’s not what reviewers are paid to evaluate. Their job is to tell the adults with children, or adults who have no children, or teenagers who still enjoy animated films, or even the cinematically savvy pre-teen whether or not this film will be worth their time and money (not if it makes a good babysitter). Cinemascore is a marketing tool, and in my opinion a terribly flawed one, used to determine how word of mouth will spread about a film and how audiences of broad backgrounds are reacting to it on opening weekend.
Now on to Rotten Tomatoes, a useful and reprehensible tool in determining what films to see. It’s pretty easy to watch as the first few reviews roll in for a film to see critics sway in one direction or another. If you’re not a top critic you are risking your job by going against the grain on a film, and if you are a top critic you put your credibility on the line (as Roger Ebert often did) by praising something most hate. A bandwagon or groupthink mentality quickly forms particularly when turning on a film. Also there’s a good deal of resentment in the media toward big budget studio releases. When reading the reviews for some of the summer films this year (particularly The Lone Ranger) it seems critics revel in the failure of the filmmakers and the studio. Some even use obvious biblical allegory. And understandably it’s difficult to remain impartial when you see great films sidelined for mediocre ones year after year. But reviewers often fall prey to some similar issues as the common viewer. Far too many reviews for Elysium commented on how it fell short of expectations following District 9. Elysium is its own film and had it come before District 9 would it be a better film? Were they to expect nothing from this director or this film how many more positive reviews would it have? Rise of the Planet of the Apes had a kind of surprise you with a new unknown director effect that will undoubtedly lead to both Rupert Wyatt’s subsequent films and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes to fail to live up to that surprise impact. It doesn’t mean they are less good, it just means they need to be viewed with an open mind. So, I’d recommend looking beyond the star rating, percent, grade, or what have you to actually read a review and judge for yourself what aspects of the film you are looking for and what is there. Attempt to walk into a film with an open mind and leave your expectations behind you.
Cinemascores rarely generate an F, which tells you right there that the general public is afraid to score a film too low. On imdb the scores are anonymous, impersonal, and takes one click to vote, and thus allows for the real hatred of a film to be let loose. Only eight films have earned an F, half of which were positive on RT. Many of these low ratings I blame on trailers misleading audiences. Solaris (2002) and Killing Them Softly were both liked by critics but hated by the 400-500 viewers in the midwest. Personally I enjoyed both of these films but feel the trailers show a completely different, action infused, high tension thriller that does not reflect the real film. Similarly Bug scored an F in spite of its “fresh” RT score, as viewers were led to believe this simple story based on a play was about killer microscopic genetically engineered parasitic insects when it was in truth about people suffering from schizophrenia. I believe had this film been given its proper audience instead of an advertising trick to get a strong opening weekend crowd it would have done better. As I’ve said before, do your research and don’t trust trailers.
Another problem with Cinemscore is they only surveyed the very first few bath of cinemagoers that went to see the movies and don't re-update their rating for subsequent watch (which is the majority of cinemagoers).It is to be expected that those that are most excited about the movie would be the one that rushed to see it in theatres and more likely to gave it more favourable scores.
The problem with IMDB rating on the other hand is it is rather useless when it comes to new releases ( especially high profile ones).Any "Fanboi "or "Hater" can easily set up multiple accounts and spam absurd ratings, even before the movie is released .
As for RT, I find most people don't even understand how its rating system worked.
I still can't figure out where all the negative reviews for this came from. I was fascinated by it. It was creepy, it was intriguing, and it had beautiful visuals.
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I agree 100%. I'd give it an A-
I'd probably land around there as well, maybe even an A if it held up well enough on second watch.
AngusMilneVids without spoiling what is your guess on why there are negative reviews
Honestly, and this is gonna sound pretentious... It's too creative. People have gotten way too used to everything in hollywood being done a certain way and as soon as someone tries to step outside of that Avengers/Paranormal Activity zone they get bashed for it. I've just been noticing this concerning trend lately that people no longer appreciate original content. They only want the next sequel or reboot or remake. That's what makes money.
it sucked so much! 45 minutes in the movie dident feel it started!
Tbh we need more movies like this. 6 days later and im still thinking about it. I love movies that make me think.
I also am the kind of person that enjoys long movies
Kristen Gausselin same here
Kristen Gausselin try looking up Bioshock infinite explained, it isn't a movie but the whole story is mind blowing, it's worth the watch, but if you want the full effect play the game.
Kristen Gausselin Really? I got disgusted and was trying to forget the movie while watching it! OMG what an abomination.
Kristen Gausselin if u like movies that make u think, then watch it comes at night
If you go in to this film with an open mind it's pretty good. At least it takes risks and has some balls. Not many films have that anymore.
Dr.Decker so true
JBML007 completely predictable. So you guessed every scene and every line of dialogue right?
Even if a movie is predictable, it can still be good. The other qualities, such as editing and pacing, seem more relevant in determining if a movie is "bad".
It is a copy cat of Shutter Island, which was MUCH better. So much didn't make sense in this movie.
Its nothing like shutter island, if you'd seen the movie you wouldn't say it was.
So that's it huh. .what are we, some kinda Cure for Wellness?
This meme will never die
I don't care what anybody else says...this still makes me chuckle.
Water Hazard we're a cure for wellness it's what we do
It's funny that the movie has a Shutter Island vibe because DeHaan has a young Dicaprio vibe.
That scene of his face when he strikes the lighter looks exactly like Dicaprio out of Shutter Island
Christopher Doucet naw
I thought the exact same thing, reminded me SOOOO much of shutter island
I actually got mixed up with him and Leonardo DiCaprio in basketball diaries.
Damn, I also feel that way
Yeah I totally got the Dicaprio vibe too
Your shirt is trippy, man.
Intro Verdict You can buy one for yourself too.
Intro Verdict the movie is weird and so is his shirt 😩
Intro Verdict I think the camera's triggered...
It looks like one the shirts from Chowder.
Intro Verdict it's called the moire effect. You're seeing the scan lines from the camera.
I really hope people support this film. This is the closest I've seen to a foreign horror film come out of the American film industry and it was great. We need to support these unique films so we can get more of them. I'm tired of popcorn, generic american flicks. I'm ready for these kind of films. This and Nocturnal animals are two great films that should be supported right now.
Jordan Hulett I agree I really love original films and new concepts I'm just waiting for this movie to have an HD online cause this movie is not in my local cinema
nocturnal animals won an oscar, it's doing just fine
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH CHRIS!!!!😁
Jordan Hulett it was amazing, loved it
This movie was godawful.
And I don't mean "It was too weird for me" or "I didn't get it and it went over my head". I mean it tried a lot of things and it failed in a lot of them, objectively.
Spoilers, obviously.
I think a really great example of what's wrong with this film is encapsulated in the ending. Specifically, where Lockhart runs (literally) into the car full of executives as he's escaping with Hannah. One of the first things they say to him, looking up at the fire, is "What have you done?" - what? What the fuck. That's not at all what someone would say in this situation. Not only would they not assume the fire up there was his fault - because there's absolutely no reason for them to believe that - they would have more pertinent questions, like "Are you okay? We just hit you with a car and you're bleeding and fleeing from a flaming castle." And then they ask about Pembroke, presumably because they assume he was staying in the castle that is now clearly burning down. Lockhart tells them "He's gone". No more explanation than that, which is stupid, there's a million things to explain, but whatever. They more or less accept this stupid response, and their response to this is to command him to get in the car. As though he would have any reason to *not* get in the fucking car. As though if they weren't just like "You're clearly injured, get in the car and we'll take you to a doctor, then we'll worry about sorting everything out" he would have any reason at all to refuse this completely rational suggestion. But he does refuse it, because now the executive is a badly written cartoon, and he demands that he get in the car, reminding him that he was sent here to perform a task, as though that has ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH HIM GETTING IN THE FUCKING CAR. But he's suddenly a shitty cartoon because now Lockhart can refuse him in what might be the most hamhandedly out of place instance of someone thinking "If he does this then it could seem meaningful, even if none of it makes sense" that I've ever seen in a movie. They filmmakers wanted him to have a chance to reject his corporate life, to have absolution, which the movie also hamhandedly shoved down the throats of the audience earlier. So they have to make his bosses - all of them, all at once - show up coincidentally as he's leaving so he could have this moment at the end of the movie.
And the movie is full of shit like this. Like the filmmakers had scraps of ideas of what could make a good movie, and they just crammed the story into these set pieces to express those ideas, even if they made no sense in regard to each other or even within the context of themselves.
I really hope people don't support this film. I have no idea what happened, here. Something, somewhere down the line went terribly, terribly wrong. I don't know if it's a case of one person going unchecked and running wild a la George Lucas or if it's more like there were too many cooks and too many ingredients all trying different stuff that the studio couldn't handle a la Suicide Squad. Either way, this was bullshit. This was a two and a half hour waste of time. Absolutely nothing of substance was said nor expressed. Nothing cohesive or consistent made it to the final product of this film. And it's a goddamned shame, because Dane DeHaan is better than this. He deserves better than this.
I loved this movie, so unique and weird which I love and amazingly shot, the cinematography is phenomenal
I love this movie too. Dane Dehaan was a great lead the cinematography was great along with the color pallet (loved all the greens). I've seen it a few times now and still really enjoy it. Criminally underrated with a really fucked up ending I must say.
I was blown away!
"I can understand why people would hate this movie" - "I don't understand why its ratings are low"
PalmDesertRock When did he say that last one about low ratings?
Dennis around 3:00-3:30
PalmDesertRock he's mainly talking about the average movie goer and how they might not like this movie, and how movie critics should've given it better ratings because they aren't your average movie goers
it cured their wellness
PalmDesertRock ROCK........IT Tells the TRUTH about what going to happen to the Earth in the near future......TRUTHFULLY.
This is the only movie that I've ever seen that legitimately terrified me, and most scary movies (even the ones I actually enjoy) don't get one scare out of me, but this film was seriously insane!
ETgohome13 same with me. This was "get inside your head" horror, not conventional blood and guts, ghost, serial killer or monster horror movies. The scariest movies are the ones that get scarier after you've had time to think about what it meant and the implications of said movie
Terabit3 Gaming only superstition movies scare me, really is the unknown that is scarry
josh millere examples of movies like that?
the shining
Sinister did that for me
Most critics need the cure
the moire effect on your shirt made me slightly ill but other than that the video was good.
matt sweatgast same
I didn't see it on my phones screen, but now I'm on my PC and oh gawd that's nauseating... >:-o~~
A cure for moire...
My AV teacher used to call that "electric"... As in , Stuckmann... Your shirt is Electric! Change that shit immediately! It wasn't for many years that I finally learned Moiré Effect, from my film student roommate. Thanks Rob!
I feel like this movie will become one of those weird cult classics. I saw it in theaters a few years back. Was recently talking to some fraternity brothers and they all said it was trash. I remembered liking it so I rewatched it and liked it more then I initially had before. In a lot of ways this movie reminds me of Crimson Peak. Both were critically panned and perceived as failures, but have a following of fans.
Crimson Peak is nowhere near critically panned
true
underrated movie
Agreed. Did very bad in the box office. Many didn't see it cause of critics and I believe bad advertising. I liked that I didn't know much about the film from the trailer I've seen and was able to actually watch the film.
it was excellent
Definitely underrated.
It's not underrated it's very much underrated movie
Andddrew lol
Critics didn't trash this movie because its original, they trashed it because they didn't like it.
and they have shit taste
There is not such a thing as trash taste. Everything is subjective.
Did they not like it because perhaps it was too original for them to handle?
Bullshit, lol. Defense of idiots. There IS such thing as trash taste, and that's when majority of sane people agree upon a piece of shit being a piece of shit, while one genius tries to find beauty in it.
***** you sound like you love transformers movies too.
"give us original films" I think its implied in the statement that the original films should also be good films. the two aren't exclusive. original films can be bad. chris seems to go out of his way to praise "original" films rather they're good or bad.
Packer Backer This film packed more of a punch than most films I've seen in quite a while. And I've been to the cinema like 8 times in 2017 alone. Though Split gave me a similar feeling as well.
Jordy This movie was literally incest pedophilia. Not something I wanna be punched by ever again at a movie theater.
Maximum Effort I'd argue the fact that you were so affected by it means the movie did a good job.
Jordy What? Considering the fact that I had no idea I would watch a grown man finger an almost little girl and smell that shit like his favorite candle, how is it supposed to effect me? Just because you get a reaction out of someone doesn't mean you're doing a good job. Quite often it means the opposite
Maximum Effort All it means is that the movie isn't another safe predictable Hollywood movie. What happens in the movie is fucked up, yes. And it is supposed to be.
Worth seeing this movie just for the beautiful, lush cinematography.
Swiss Alps has never looked better.
I agree. I love the way this film was shot. Makes wanna vist the Alps now
@@hulkfan97 it's not only switzerland though. There are also locations filmed in Germany. The castle, for example, is located in germany. The nature shots do look very swiss to me though and as a swiss I should know
The majority of film critics are just terrible anymore. Stuckmann is an exception, I don't always agree with him, but many of the critics' reviews just don't make sense, they want something different, then they bash it. I'm looking forward to seeing this as I love weird, different films.
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To be fair, just being original is no defense against things like "the movie has no plot" etc. Honestly, i don't get either side of the arguement. Why do you want something that hasn't been done before ? Do you innovate every day ? Does that make what you do less viable and important ? I want to be entertained, i want to be soaked into the world that is being depicted and i don't want to be taken out of the immersion every few minutes, if a movie can manage that, it's already above average for me. "But it was the first movie filmed entirely by a chimpanzee, they truly did something new there"; "Yeah ? Did that help the movie in any way ? No ? Then it probably was a dumb idea and i don't care, thank you !"
its the same with video games. critics criticize new or smaller video game launches for not being unique or original, then openly give Call of duty, Battlefront etc 8 or 10 out of 10 annually and call it "the new evolution of gaming"
SpaceMonkeyEntertainment True. You know what recent film had an original plot? Monster Trucks. Originality doesn't always work. Not saying it's a bad thing, but when we try to shove this down Hollywood's throat they go and push out shitty films like that.
ETgohome13 to be fair, the premise of Monster Trucks came from an 8 year old. Maybe we shouldn't let kids make the premise for movies.
So this is where Harry Osborn went when Spider-Man refused to give him his blood in The Amazing Spider-Man 2.
Jun the fact that you remember that is unbelievably sad
Brick ByBrick I'm sure Chris Stuckmann remembers it too, so not sad at all. I actually enjoyed that film. Must be sad living in a world where not everybody shares the same opinion as you.
It's now sad to remember movies you've seen. Excuse us for not having dementia.
Jun i thought the same thing. i kept thinking the "i'm dying" quote.
Hahaha, he was looking for the cure. Hats off sir.
I saw this movie ONCE three years ago and it still haunts me. It was just so different, ive never seen anything like it before. It fascinates me yet terrifies me up at the same time. It’s hard to forget a movie like this
I haven't seen a cure for wellness, so I can't comment on that but I feel like Chris has this problem of saying "Oh, this movie is original and different so you have to go see it and I know a lot of people will hate it but I'm going to give it a high grade because it's original."
He's done this with a couple movies and every time I've walked away hating the movie. Just because something is different and original doesn't take away from whatever flaws it may have. Being an original concept doesn't give a film permission to just to off the rails, or be slow burning to the point of boredom, or be so trippy half the audience can't figure out what's going on without a two hour companion piece.
Yes, I want original films, but I also want them to be good, not just different.
Bobby Ellis Ik what you mean because his reviews had done that for me. But this movie is different and very enjoyable. Guarantee you won't see a movie like this nowadays
Lance Clearman yes. Exactly that.
If I had to guess, it's because he reviews films, and lots of them, which leads to him being overly familiar or bored with common tropes and ideas. I'm not sure how many movies you watch on a daily or weekly basis, so maybe I'm talking out my ass, either way it's just a thought.
I understand what you mean. I hope he genuinely liked the movie and is not affected by it being an "original" concept even though as a movie it might be complete shit. Then again, I think it's very good to reward people who are trying to make original films even though they might not be that great. If people don't give original films a chance the big studios will keep on pumping out Marvel films.
I saw A Cure for Wellness and it was great. It was beautiful. It was weird and original. And it was magnificent.
Last time I was this early the DCEU had a bright future
Vincent Knight how many years has it been??
Alex Turlais Since 2008 I'm guessing
fuckjared 2012
stop with this fuckin hate
Nolans films were the last good ones
So lovecraftian. Old castle, fainting protagonist, cursed family, fish horror, cults, crazy experiments, old medical setting. I hope they make more movies in this atmosphere.
F**k yeah
the cure for wellness reminded me of a mix of shutter Island and the game Outlast, before everything went to hell.
the tiger in me Yes! I would personally love an Outlast game based on this movie.
I was confused by that creepy ass smile Dane Dehaan gave at the very end lol
Alana Branch lmao same
Alana Branch me too
Alana Branch me too? Is he an eel now?
Either that or that's just how Dane Dehaan smiles 😬
I was trying to figure that out too but I think it's just the way the actor smiles and wasn't meant to convey any more than he got out with his sanity very much altered
to me this immediately felt like Dracula or Frankenstein. I mean that in the best possible sense. Classic horror. I wasnt surprised by the burned monster finale at all. I saw the bandaged faced baron in the photo... saw the false faces in the dishes. I saw it coming, but it was on point. Well done horror cinema worship.
Thank you! Totally a nod to the classic horror monsters. I loved it as well.
Wow, thanks. I was actually gonna pass on this movie because of the reviews, but now I see the mainstream is becoming less and less reliable
Thurgor Supreme just saw it today. In my opinion, I really liked it. I actually went to go see it because the reviews were that negative and I didn't have any regrets.
Thurgor Supreme Fake News Fake Reviews. Cancel Cable. Support your country and president. I love you all.
Nunya Bidness stop
Giovanni Walden butt hurt from opinions much?
OriginalEarl nah
He kinda looks like a younger Leonardo DiCaprio.
Francis Tuazon lmao in what world?
Mt. Fugi I think he's talking about the actor in the movie. He's right!
Francis Tuazon no... he doesnt at all...
Francis Tuazon Who Chris?
yes he does kid lol
I felt a weird comfort watching this like a Horror Harry Potter movie.
M3rger I was curious if I was the only one who felt the Harry Potter vibes. I also got some Haunted Mansion vibes too.
Yes, especially the scene in the beginning when he wanders into the thick fog of the spaw room. The walls change around him as he becomes trapped in an impossible labyrinth giving you the magical intrigue feeling to see what’s around the corner even though you feel like the protagonist is walking into danger. Those vibes that make me love Harry Potter.
@@AlkoWasAlreadyTaken Maybe the Harry Potter vibes were due to Jason Isaacs being in the movie
X men vibes too
Same man . 3 years later and same vibes . Oh my god
Sometimes, when I'm bored, I put myself in the oven and pretend I'm a meatloaf.
Taylor Williams Try not getting eaten by Chris Christie.
Why not pretending to be a Jew?
Taylor Williams I hope it's turned on next time you FUCK
😂😂😂
Oh no, tha-Thats not sad. Th-ats not sad at all! *walks out of comment section slowly*
Thank God I wasn't the only one who didn't hate this movie. Had some problems, but I liked a lot of it.
I didn't see a problem with it besides that it was maybe 20 minutes too long but every scene had a purpose so it would've been a bit difficult if they made it shorter but could've been doable.
Charles Perez I LOVED IT
I'll admit I liked the movie, I didn't love it, but I liked it for what it was and respected it's originality as you did. I won't give any spoilers but I liked how it tried to veer off the road from a psychological thriller to what almost reminded me of an insane gothic romance kind of plot.. I won't get into that, you'll just have to watch the movie. The execution just didn't sit well with me and almost reminded me of a sort of B rated "thrown in" ending. That's what it reminded me of but the execution even though it missed the mark a little, didn't miss it by much I thought; I still felt like "well wow" after the movie was over. I won't give it as much credit as you but I do think this film deserved at least a little higher of a score from critics. I feel if they shaved off the time to two hours, took out a few unnecessary scenes and focused on the ones they had and made them just as impactful or more, and polished up the ending a little more, it could have been significantly fresh with its originality. You're score is perfectly fair in my opinion as well
It was a little more than luke warm. It's an interesting story and gives us beautiful cinematography, but it's wonky in places. It relies too heavily on exposition. What bothered me most was the psychology that moves the narrative is completely abandoned by the climax. The movie just gives up on itself. I was fully invested in the first hour or so, but things just start to unravel. It was a fine movie, far from excellent.
Kinda have to agree. The ending's fire parallels to the burning of the sister was very heavy-handed, and missed the inferences that played so well in the beginning. There also could have been contrasts with the doctor's quest vs. the patient's delusions (in a sense both are going for a type of immortality), that instead are kept mostly as a plot devices.
And worst of all there was only one really compelling scene in the movie (the bar), where you get a sense of how out of place Hannah is and how dire the circumstances are.
I think most people are so hard on this movie is that it had the potential to be truly great, but just sort of collapsed in on itself.
Exactly
Cap'n Mo SPOILERS!
Ye was really interested at the start but it went on too long and by the time the final fight scene is happening in a chamber from Phantom of the Opera it had turned into complete shlock..
People ask for originality, doesn't mean they are going to look past flaws just because it is different.
then again lots of critics look pass the flaws of movies that have a name or brand attached to it.
blackknightkanos I agree indeed
That's what I was thinking. Enemy and Under the Skin are two good examples of films that are different, challenging, compelling, and most of all good.
blackknightkanos Star Wars 7
RWBY....
I absolutely fucking love this movie
I agree that critics hate original films, I honestly believe birdemic shock and terror is a masterpiece, yea its low budget but everything else is flawless. I really hope people start praising it for how ambitious and original it is. it says important things about humanity, the environment, religion and relationships, I think its a great film. I hate when people trash it.
TMR MOVIES The special effects, even for low budget, are awful and so is the acting. It might be original and have a good message but it isn't a good movie in the slightest.
Jarmo Verriet I think the acting is great they all have these subtle brilliant performances. The special effects aren't great but there so well done
Wait... critics hate original films now?!
Like... The Lobster? Swiss Army Man? Zootopia? The Nice Guys? La La land? Arrival? The Witch? Wes Anderson movies?
I thought critics usually like original films...
Dawson Brannan yea but birdemic is atleast a million times more Original and plus it has a groundbreaking message. Those other movies you mentioned are just pretentious and they probably pay off critics like marvel
Okay... I respect your opinion and all, but is there any further proof that Marvel was paying critics? Or do you just not like Marvel films?
I don't wanna sound rude. I'm just asking.
so thats it huh? we some kinda A cure for wellness?
Hamza Naeem DOESN'T EVEN FUCKING MAKE SENSE OH MY GOD
that tea drinking top hat tipping British man thats the whole joke Sherlock
Noah King Yup
Hamza Naeem Not a joke.
original
"A combination of The Shining and Shutter Island.." ... SOLD!
did you accidentally imply this movie is too deep for most people?
creeper weirdo So what if he did. Did it hurt your feelings
I don't think it was accidental.
He is not wrong. I loved this movie and so did all the people I was with. It was quite special. Still can't really get this movie out of my mind after seeing it yesterday.
Jordy I'm right there with you. I can't wait to see it again
The answer is simple. Don't be like most people.
Hey Chris can you do a video of your top 10 favorite movie franchises of all time?
Oh Yess please!!
Me name jeff
Barry jeffrey Didn't he write a book or something about his top 50?
Rahul Chaudhary Matrix and Fast and furious?? 1 and done on those franchises..
Kolbe Jeffery r u high?
i think the biggest turning point for this movie is the twist, is something you either love or hate. And I personally loved it, when the movie turned from psichological horror thriller to full on gothic horror. It was amazing it was like watching a modern take on a classical hammer film. I love this film so much.
So that's it huh, we some kind of Cure for Wellness?
MASTER BUBBY You like jazz?
MASTER BUBBY Some kinda Wellness SquuAAD?
It's fitting that you used this beaten to death overused meme considering your profile picture is also of a beaten to death overused meme. Smh...
😂😂😂😂
stop
Fuck other critics,stuckmann is the best
Blobber90 Blobb No
Blobber90 Blobb Chris is a pretty good critic but not the best because in a couple of his videos hype and nostalgia overwhelmed him. I can give Jeremy Jahns a pass because he doesn't claim to be a critic but just a fan of movies.
I hate my life. out of all other critics i have found that Jeremy is usually the most accurate and doesn't let nostalgia effect his reviews and doesn't give a movie a pass even if it's a classic.
I wouldn't give Jeremy a pass, if u have a million subs and review movies it should be more then just surface level stuff and if someone is a "fan of movies" should't they try to reach out and see other movies that don't have a 10 million marketing budget.
Headbanger776 true he doesn't review that many if any at all indy movies but for that matter neither does any other youtube reviewer.
Great film if you cut out the trash ending. The tonal shift at the end is so out of nowhere and mashed into it. It was SO good until the end. It dumbed down so much. Felt lazy after such masterful build up.
@@phoenix0547 After they captured the dude and put him in a tank the rest of the movie is his euphoric hallucinations as the worms drain him. You can tell because he's been losing teeth as the movie progresses and in the last act all his teeth are back.
@@auburnfire they gave him fake teeth I think. Like everyone in the wellness center had fake teeth because of the side effects.
B+ is perfectly fair
Dylan Casey lmao, yeah right
See this is why your my favourite film reviewer on this platform Chris, thanks for saying what you truly believe
Tell that to Zod's snapped neck.
I just watched it and holy shit it this movie awesome, definitely among the top 5 of the year so far
who even cares about rotten tomatoes or the other sit?
TMD Sadly, everyone.
ThatOneMovieGuy Not really. Only people that are unable to form their own opinions.
carny15 well, not really. You only have a limited time and budget to watch movies, so you're gonna make use of sites like that to help you select, especially if you don't know a lot about movies currently in cinema.
TMD...I used to check RT's ratings for films from 1930s - 1990s, so that I won't waste my time watching shitty films..
but now I just check out Letterboxd ratings..
People who are open to other people's opinions. I have my own, but I can acknowledge when I'm in the majority and when I'm not.
I swear If I see one more "That's it huh we some kinda bla bla bla" comment I'm gonna go metal gear on your ass!
BIG BOSS right man. Its so annoying!!! I mean come up with a new meme already!
So that's it huh? We're some kind of overused meme?
So that's it huh? We some kinda a cure for wellness?
A weapon to surpass metal gear...
BIG BOSS So that's,huh?We some kind of BIG BOSS?
I dont know how any critic gave this movie poor reviews it was a master piece... they really don't drop many movies this beautiful and meticulous nowadays
I'm SO EXCITED for this movie! I just discovered your channel a few hours ago and put on post notifications, so when I saw this pop up I was so happy
chole c welcome
chole c SUBSRIBE. 1 MILL
Chris, just because something is original and "not like anything else" than doesn't automatically mean it's good. If critics automatically gave good reviews to completely original films for being just that, it would be dishonest and it would be unfair criticism.
Imagine if you gave something like Nine Lives or Norm of The North a pass just because they aren't based on something that already exists. That's a silly concept.
Dylan Brandsema neither of those are original concepts
Dylan Brandsema that's not what he means by original
literally just got home from the cinema seeing this. And wow
Great review Chris I enjoyed this movie it was a wierd cool movie I thought it was great even though it was a little long 4/5
I liked this movie up until the ending when all this culminated to a fist fight with this epic blockbuster-y score. The reveal of what all this was about, the reason for the entire place was so absurd and ridiculous. It almost undid all the greatness that had come out of the first two hours. Also, what does it take for Lockhart to leave this place? Normal people would've been gone very early, but instead of getting the hell out of there he's exploring and researching this place and screaming, "where's Penbrook?!" the entire time. He (spoilers) literally got out at one point, and was free in the town, yet he gets back in the car and goes back because he is just idiotic. I still however really liked this movie for those first two hours, and think is worth checking out. Not because it's an original movie (original movies come out every single weekend, there's been like 30 already this year) but because it's one of the most well done mystery films I've seen in years. Even if the answer to the mystery isn't all that great.
Brandon Torres ^
Brandon Torres I don't think Lockhart is a normal person though. There were quite a few small hints throughout the movie that should make you question who was actually the insane one. Also a lot of small inconsistent details that seemed deliberate like him getting his teeth back for example. The sickness might have been man-made, but that doesn't mean he wasn't sick.
Brandon Torres 10/10 comment compadre.
Brandon Torres he couldn't leave because if he came back empty handed he would go to jail for cooking the books and he got back in the car because of the implied threat of the gangsters.
Brandon Torres I totally agree
This movie is a masterpiece, it didn't deserve to bomb like it did. Gore Verbinski hasn't made a movie since 😢
Saw it last night! I liked it a lot
Chris, the human race will always be hypocritical. Especially critics.
you can't spell hypocritical without "critic"
Crumply Dump true is that
True shit
MovieCore you beat me to it
This movie also reminded me of crimson peak. Spoiler Alert for anyone who hasnt seen both
Both have the main characters being poisoned through a liquid,messed up family stuff , are beatufully taken and take place in a remote place. And I have to say, I liked both and find those similarities pretty cool.
When is ur neon demon analysis vid
Yey, Symbolism in cannibalism. The true masterpiece of modern cinema. Not.
Although I woudn't mind seeing that one analysed by Chris, I still truly hated the movie.
kudlatytube Such a marmite movie..
I loved it personally. The style WAS the substance and the lurid disturbing tone was perfect
Mid-Loaf Crisis All it was was pretty, that's it.
Fractured Films yesss I've been waiting for that
at this rate I'll have mine out before he does.
Anyone else distracted by the shirt?
The Short Stormtrooper Yeah, not the best choice for a video review.
The Short Stormtrooper what that's a normal shirt
It's not about the shirt itself. It's the freaky wavey motions its pattern or material creates throughout the whole review. Just watch it for a while and you'll see it.
What’s funny is I noticed it right before reading this comment.
The Short Stormtrooper ya
Love how you described this film, I absolutely loved it!! How you have an unbiased opinion I respect very much. It was undeniably overwhelming and the amount of care they put into the editing and the sound touches and just very small details you don't get a lot and was astounding to me, I loved how strange and almost unworldly it was and exactly how you said "what's going on with my life" the more and more I think about that movie the more I love it, simply because it is very different and it gives you almost a sense of a reality touch, and kind of hits close to home when it comes to how realistic the scenario they started the movie out with is. Over all in a nut shell was an awesome experience and I loved the fact that dragged it out so long because it allows them to put in that much more of a good finished product. B+ I think it deserves an A just because of how well thought out this really was!!
I felt the same, when I saw the movie I was blown away at how creepy and weird and disturbing the movie got at times, I absolutely loved it! I was surprised to see how low the Rotten Tomatoes score for this film was.... It's honestly not a film for everyone, but it's a movie you should definitely go see. It's so different than every other movie we see out there. It stands alone as it's own original film with a blend of a couple different genres. I loved it 👍🏻
I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! Chris is correct, every shot and sound is so lush with information and it was hard to keep up. however, the directing is so good that you are sure the answers were placed somewhere in the movie. I personally want to watch it again to see if it can fill in the gaps. It is too finely crafted; the filmmaking should not be underestimated.
Jonathan Camacho Yeah I really enjoyed it too.
Jonathan Camacho Why are you all praising an incest pedophilia movie? Lol what the fuck is wrong with you dumb shits
Maximum Effort You are saying that as if this movie goes out of its way to promote incest or pedophilia. If that is the message you got from this then you must have been sleeping throughout most of it.
Maximum Effort No that wasn't the main point. That was a plot point in the story. There is a difference. It obviously made you uncomfortable, as it did me, and everybody else who watched it probably. But that doesn't mean that this is suddenly all the movie is about, because it isn't.
Ok, you're being condescending, Chris. You're more than welcome to love the movie and you did convince me to see it, but the whole "critics don't get it 'coz it's weird and new" makes you sound like a snotty, know-it-all. Aren't you the guy who wanted Vader, Vader and moar Vader from Rogue One?
A little hypocritical of me since I'm critiquing a critic critiquing other critics for critiquing the film (#crititiqueception), but I had to point that out.
Snowfall Slasher I agree, Chris doesn't actually know why these critics are rating the film low he's just assuming they don't appreciate or understand it, which is really pretentious. This film still looks really interesting and I love movies that mess with your head so I'll have to make my own opinion when I watch it myself and see if these critics are right, the imdb ratings usually seem fairly accurate to what I would rate most movies though so I'm not expecting anything great.
Snowfall Slasher #critiqueception
Snowfall Slasher
You're looking way too much into it.
@dancecrew1996 Or, you know, the story, the writing, the pacing and a number of other things. As someone who seen the film, those were definitely the weak areas for this film.
@mechasentai Check out 2:55 onwards. I don't think my reaction is unwarranted. And hey, I did point out this is #critiqueception ;)
...and here I am, four years later, listening to Chris's good critic--again. His 'The Empty Man (2020)' review brought me back here.
Chris, with this movie's mindset, you should see Upstream Color (2013) from director Shane Carruth (from Primer). Underrated, strange, complicated, but I loved it.
In that same vain, Primer is incredible.
Actually as I've read through most of the critic's reviews, no one has disliked it for being original. In fact almost every critic has said they would've liked it a whole lot more...except it's waaaaaay too long. I'll admit midnight last night I had a shot at seeing this or The Great Wall and chose Great Wall just because this is almost as long as a Lord of the Rings movie. And really if you're going to be that long I do feel then that you had better be blowing us away otherwise it's just dragging it out for pretentiousness' sake.
With that said, I'm seeing it this week possibly today and still having my hopes higher than most. Just...that length.
You don't rate a movie a fucking 37% on Rotten Tomatoes because it's too long. Get a clue.
Mabeh Al-Zuq Yadeek Um... 37% RT means that 37% of the critics liked it, it's not the average.
the fact that you would actually waste your money on the great wall says everything we need to know
Arc13 The thing that bothers me is that these are the same critics who say that 2001 or the godfather are some of the best films ever made. I mean a cure for wellness is pretty fast paste compared to these two movies.
Visually, The Cure for Wellness is probably one of the best films I have ever seen. Like you said, every single shot is impeccable and the colour scheme is beyond perfect. I thought Mia Goth and Dane DeHaan was perfect casting and both did a really good job. In terms of the story line, it started off well, but then started to annoy me a bit. I'm still not 100% sure I know exactly what the ending meant. Even so, an incredible and underrated film.
Spoiler!!!
Everything that happened after his watch stopped was outside time.
TSc Scott ?
I decided not to watch this movie after seeing 38% on RT but after hearing Chris's opinion I am more interested in this.
Thanks dude your reviews are amazing
Varad Raigaonkar me too and I just got back from seeing it and I really enjoyed it
Varad Raigaonkar I fucking loved it, the ending was slightly over the top but it was a good film, will make you cringe though
I just saw this today and I was absolutely blown away. I never once felt bored watching this because it was paced in such a way that allowed to me to think about what was happening, but just as I'd think I'd come to a conclusion it would throw something else into the mix. In terms of atmosphere I thought this film was perfect. As the film went on I felt as if I were falling more and more into a dream, which I feel was intended given by a similar thing happening to the protagonist. I feel like the symbolic imagery is almost on par with films like American Beauty and not to mention the important social commentary this film provides. I understand that a lot of people aren't as open minded as I am, so I feel like a lot of these deeper messages will be looked over because of the overall strangeness and sickeningly disturbing imagery present in the film. There is one moment where a character is revealed and cgi is used that took me out of the movie a little bit, but apart from that I was entranced from the first shot to the last.
I was about to fall asleep. Thanks Chris.
Tabbycat Witch Same here my
3:10 You know Chris, movies can be original but still suck ass
Seems like a lot of the complaints are that it isn't very original either. "Derivative and predictable story... frights have all been more effectively dealt before."
Phil Hood Then the movie is even worse haha
Antoine Pel. They can be, but in this movie I think it worked very well. Watched it last night and thought it was really something special. Everybody really left the movie feeling mindfucked.
Art that gets a response is better than art that goes unnoticed.
Antoine Pel. Like the Happening, Hail Caesar, and Allied for example. All shite
Hi Chris ! I'm from France, I'm 42 and love your insight on movies. I just saw "A cure for Wellness" on bluray and agree with every word you said. This film is brillant, original, beautifully shot and I think it's sad most people can't appreciate its qualities. I can clearly feel an influence from old school Universal films towards the end (Dracula, Frankenstein , Phantom of the Opera) a bit of Kubrick and also Dario Argento (the moutain setting reminds me of the beginning of Phenomena). Keep up the good work !
I saw the movie as well, and as well I was puzzled and did not know whether to like it or not. BUT: To me this movie had outstanding visuals, soundscapes and many more awesome stylistic devices, but the story? The plot was paperthin and see-through, I knew what was going on after 30 Minutes and the movie kept going for 2 and a half hours of trying to confuse me about what is going on here... when in the end it was kinda exactly what I thought, because it is a thing that many many storys told before. Still: Very watchable movie!
Reminds me of Outlast
Carter Provencal you sold me on outlast:) I'm watching it!!
couldn't get past the first 5 mns, that's how scared i was.
Also a little Evil Within.
BioShock maybe? Just an idea.
2:55 Preach it Chris! 😃
I totally agree with you!
Speaking of critically underappreciated cult classic art films: with the Twin Peaks revival coming out soon, would you consider analyzing some David Lynch films?
Derek Connors, Hi Dude!
Excellent Idea!! Really!!! I will never forget when I saw "Blue Velvet" for the first time. Rewatched it one or two years ago. Of course it hadn`t the same effect on me. I`m not the same person anymore but it caused some flashback to the time when directors like David Lynch and David Cronenberg transformed me into a "fanatic" movie enthusiast. (Similar like M. Night S. did for Chris.) And for me "Twin Peaks" was forshadowing the "Golden Age of TV".
Really interested in seeing more Dehaan so I'll probably head the recommendation.
I do have a bit of a problem with your point about critics being hypocritical about wanting more original films. If I'm tired of having hotdogs and hamburgers all the time and want something new and original, throwing chopped squid on my plate doesn't entirely solve my issue. There are a whole host of others factors that go into what someone wants out of something new or original. Just throwing something new at someone because that was the only preference they made known regardless of quality, comprehensiveness, pacing, ect. doesn't mean critics are necessarily being unreasonable or hypocritical if they take issue with the movie.
I think it should also be noted that original films like Enemy, The Tree of Life, or anything from Shane Carruth's have pretty high critical scores on rotten tomatoes. I see it as more of a case by case sort of thing rather than critics universally not appropriating more adventures endeavors.
Fuck, ment appreciate* not appropriate.
Oh, have I thanked you for this? Man, I was sooo blown away: The style, the characters... Whoa.
You should do a video on Jim Henson's The Dark Crystal! I don't know if it would be a Hilariocity or maybe just a regular review, but i have fond memories of that movie from my childhood and would love to see your take on it.
lol Chris looked so confused in this review...
this will be like the shining: critics dislike it when it first comes out, but then it becomes a highly praised masterpiece decades later
Alex Stevenson yeah no... this film was a convoluted mess
I liked it up to the third act. Third act turned it on it's head and I found it so cartoonishly stupid.
jespersschmidt became s great comedy in that 3rd act. Especially that goofy ass ending.
After finding this movie on Netflix, Yeah, I agree 🙂 It's different, creepy, expertly shot and produced, feels very lovecraftian, etc. It's definitely not a film for everyone, but then again, what is? :)
I saw the trailer for this movie & immediately knew I'd at least appreciate Dane's performance & the aesthetics - Im a sucker for a movie you can sink into! Unlike some people when it got to the third act - I fell in love. You're completely right that it's not perfect but something about this film & the way it pulls you in *chefs kiss*
I feel a cult classic coming! This is such a good movie. It would of been better if it was boiled down to about 1 hr and 40 minutes. Still can't hold back the good, and bad (You'll know why when you see the movie. It still haunts me.) of this film.
SPOILERS
I really don't like when movies or shows have a character hallucinating without an explanation, especially without elements of the supernatural, like why did Lockhart thought the sauna had no doors? Why did Hannah appeared to teleport when she was first shown? Why did Lockhart saw eels while in the tank? I get that it gives a "creepy vibe' to the movie or whatever but it just took me out of the movie. (I know the doctor "explained" the illusions saying its just the toxins leaving the body but isn't that just pseudo science? How did the Lockhart and Pembrocke survived being in water without breathing ? So many unanswered questions and a twist that was predictable since the start, really didn't enjoy this movie.
Also, Lockhart goes from being brainwashed to normal to brainswashed and back to normal again wtf?
The water was contaminated by eels, so he was drinking little doses of poison everyday. This is why he was having hallucinations & his body was growing weaker, then he didn't want to leave after a while.
... the outter edges of your shirt-pockets mesmerize me everytime you move.
I don't know if it's because my screen-resolution is so small, but... daaaamn... so trippy!
Are you saying this will be like the next Donnie Darko?
Steve Buscemi Love that fuckin movie... still don't get it... but love it
Steve Buscemi Well Donnie Darko got pretty good ratings sooo...
Steve Buscemi Donnie darko made money and was rated extremely well when it came out. Definitely deserved it too. ever since that movie I've kept an eye on Jake gyllenhall
Oh...for some reason i was under the impression it hadn't
Steve Buscemi more like "the village"
I really want to see his review for Get Out. also great review
Doesn't look that great. I think I would just want to watch the last 20 minutes of it.
Nick Is Dank Get Out was great, it's surreal and not focused on the jump scares but more of getting under your skin. Literally left the screening an hour ago and was impressed.
The cinematography and art direction of this movie are gorgeous. It's worth seeing for that alone. I first sensed that many of the shots felt like Kubrick homages, and then I could clearly see the influence of the Shining, but after awhile I noticed more subtle Kubrick references or easter eggs, that could easily go unnoticed. There was almost a word for word Dr. Strangelove homage, when one of the characters started talking about "the Purity of our precious bodily fluids", mimicking the line Ripper gives to Mandrake, in DrStrangelove. Like Chris, I also got a strong Shutter Island vibe from this film. Both the general premise and the beautiful set design, with it's period set architecture, and clinical sterile feel. You'd think these comparisons would be a negative, but somehow the movie still feels unique and original too.
I really enjoyed this movie.
Another great review, well done.
I really loved this movie. Spectacular visual imagery and so underrated.
Really intriguing and great direction by Gore Verbinski.
TBH the movie was great till the last ac where the whole movie fell apart.
I really liked it tbh, and it didn’t come all that unexpected with the whole backstory of the place being the first thing we learn about it. The whole movie you get these shutter island/shining Post-horror psychological thriller vibes, and then at the end it unmasks itself (see what I did there?) and shows that at its core it’s really a retelling or an homage to the classic monster stories, Dracula, Frankenstein, even some lovecraft-vibes... and since I like both, it was just the perfect whole package for me.
I was waiting for this review.
you are the best reviewer man... its a pleasure hearing you articulately critique and review a movie
This movie creeped back into my mind. I'm looking for another movie like this besides shutter island. Having a bit of difficulty. Loved A Cure for Wellness.
The Lighthouse (2019)
The Shining
And if you're willing to adjust the genre for a little bit of comedy, then also:
The Grand Budapest Hotel